Samsung and black clipping/crush - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General

Hi guys, before i start I absolutely love my note. At first I thought the screen was too big, but now I could never go smaller. (now I know how women feel )
However, my biggest complaint is the black clipping/crush, which seems to affect people differently according to their individual note.
This evening I was reminiscing the music I listened too in my youth. One of the videos to a song I love nearly made me throw my note out the window, because of the black clipping. This video is the WORST case of black clipping I've seen during my ownership.
Link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJvT6ruolA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I am stuck with my note until July at the earliest, when I can upgrade. I do not have the luxury of buying the latest handset as soon as it is released, therefore I will have owned my note for 18 months. I am not sure whether I will buy another Samsung device again. Yes they slack on releasing sources, but for me if they cannot get the basics of a good quality screen right on a high end device, they may as well give up now.
Up until my note, my previous 2 devices were HTC. The Desire and Sensation. Their screens were SLCD, and suffered no clipping. I am aware the cause of clipping is an OLED problem and i can see no power saving or display quality reason for an OLED display. Yes I've looked into ppi but seriously there is little difference.
Every android handset I've owned will only give a maximum of around 4 hours screen on time, regardless of what you do with it or settings you disable (pointless in my opinion, its a SMART phone)
I feel its time Samsung ditched OLED displays before they lose customers. I know s3 owners who changed from iPhone to android (hooray!) but because of the clipping there changing back asap. I keep telling them its a Samsung issue but they don't care. First Impressions count for a lot.
Anyway rant over, just wondered how other SGN users felt about this and how its shaped their future device choice.
King
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Did you miss this topic or didn't you search before you made the post?

I am aware of that thread. (I own a note so of course I am, Samsung knows yada yada yada *yawn*)
I was under the assumption that the general sub forum was for non development posts, which this is. So I apologise that I do not conform to your idea of a non development thread.
All I was seeking was similar experiances too my own, whereby I probably will not buy another Samsung device as long as they continue too use poor quality screens.
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Tom-Helge said:
Did you miss this topic or didn't you search before you made the post?
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In fact had you bothered to read my post correctly you would of seen this
"However, my biggest complaint is the black clipping/crush, which seems to affect people differently according to their individual note."
Now, to me that suggests I've done my research (I'm not a member since 2010 for no reason, post counts mean nothing)
All you've done is show me what I'd already known to a point, xda is going downhill
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kingears said:
In fact had you bothered to read my post correctly you would of seen this
"However, my biggest complaint is the black clipping/crush, which seems to affect people differently according to their individual note."
Now, to me that suggests I've done my research (I'm not a member since 2010 for no reason, post counts mean nothing)
All you've done is show me what I'd already known to a point, xda is going downhill
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Did you try gammatest.png image in a dark room?

dude that was the fav. song of mine from past and last time i have seen this video on a htc hd2 there was no such black clipping and now on my note it is so bad.. really it made me that much mad that i wanted to smash the phone on a concrete ground..
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This is very poor quality video. That is the first thing I noticed... Not only that I saw black clipping, but also white and gray clipping :silly:
So I'm not sure what I was more worried about. Whether because of a couple of squares that move around the screen (poor quality), or because some of these are gray black or white? (they all three appear crushed/cliped whatever) :silly:
The next thing I did, was look at the second video that was offered in the results, some (darker) HQ video (for ex. "theslowmoguys" videos are usualy very good quality videos and you have enough time to find critical parts of black cliping), and there is significantly less black clipping or no black clipping at all in hq videos
So I am not worried about that problem at all. Despite that, I'm in love with a black color of AMOLED screens. And I would buy another samsung product (Note3) because at Note2 this problem has been resolved
p.s. if you want a greyer black and you want solve this problem, you can download from play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5uZXRtYW5zbGFiLnNhIl0.
or some similar app:good:
my few cents

Thread Closed:
I don't really see a point to having this topic when there is already this one (and I would guess several others):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2094222
Please post there to discuss it.
Thanks.
~ The-Captain

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Galaxy S II I9100 - Just got mine! - mini review

Ok -I just got my Galaxy S II here in the uk from phones4u (wouldn't really recommend them but they had it early. My previous Galaxy S which I had massive GPS problems with over almost every ROM and radio combination is eventually going on eBay.
I thought others here might be interested in the SII
Initial impressions are:
Wow - this thing is blazingly and surprisingly fast. I've seen reviews that say it's fast but when you use it - it simply refuses to slow down anywhere in the UI or apps. The Market for example is crazy fast and installing apps is a breeze.
TouchWiz 4 is really a huge improvement and the small changes here and there along with the speed mentioned abive make it a real pleasure to use. Can't as of yet replace the Messaging app link to GoSMS (my personal choice) - but maybe will be able to when root becomes available.
Now - a little background information: I'm very sensitive to colour and brightness uniformity variations and I have to say that over the past few years have had some issues with monitors, a Samsung TV and an iPhone 4 I sent back for problems I know others simply cannot see or simply don't consider "problems". I do - and for that reason I was astonished and delighted by the Super Amoled screen in my GPS defying Galaxy S. I literally love(d) that screen and it was crisp, sharp, large and beautiful with absolutely no colour shift or backlight issues (there isn't one!).
So when I found out that the Galaxy SII had a Super Amoled+ screen I was dribbling with anticipation.
When I turned on my brand-shiny-new Galaxy SII this afternoon however I noticed something I'd seen while toying with the first few SII's I'd handled in the phones4u shops but thought nothing of - the screen is slightly "muddy" although vibrant and there is a definite variation in either brightness or colour shift across the screen from top to bottom - especially visible (almost only visible) on solid colour backgrounds in apps and also Gmail. In know and will state in anticipation that most others wouldn't notice this. Having had my Galaxy S though which had a screen I consider virtually perfect - I was a bit surprised to find that this new SuperAmoled+ screen had a completely different colour temperature and exhibited what looked like colour shift from top to bottom. I was also very surprised that the screen did NOT look as sharp as the screen on my original Galaxy S because these Samoled+ screens are meant to be "sharper". I wonder what the pixel density is compared to the Samoled screens?
Also, when you tilt the phone, the colour of the screen shifts a lot more than the original Galaxy S. Hmmmm......
Anyway - after having just paid around (I am crazy I know) £500 for this phone I feel a little sick.
I LOVE the speed. I love the interface. I know and love Android. I'm surprised by the screen however.
Just thought I'd give everyone a heads-up and HIGHLY recommend you go and have a look at one first before, say, buying online if you are also sensitive to screen uniformity or if you prefer the more "blue" white balance of the original Samoled screens as opposed to a more "yellow" tint - which this SGSII has.
I'm hoping that maybe it will "warm up" and/or "settle in" but I'm not too sure about that. I've tried turning off "auto brightness" and that definitely makes the screen brighter - as you'd imagine - but doesn't seem to help with my issues described above.
Now - onto something else entirely - GPS:
I've only tested this VERY quickly and indoors but the GPS seems to work better than the oroginal SGS. Will do further testing because I use Google Navigation quite a lot but so far I'm hopeful this is now fully resolved. GPS crappyness was one of the main reasons I upgraded and the main lure of this phone was the Samoled+ screen, so I really don't know what I'm gonna do.
The screen issues are so subjective I'm guessing the shop wouldn't consider it a "fault" and so I'd have a fight on my hands with that one.
I think I'll wait a little to see what happens - I think my eyes would get used to the colour balance being slightly warmer but the slight blurriness of the icons/screen and the slightly lighter bottom half (very slight) will probably stay as they are and are very noticeable to me.
Anyway - hope that was of some interest to someone. Any questions - just ask and I'll do my best to answer.
Nice little roundup, glad you're pleased with it on the whole.
Is there any way you could get an image or two of both handsets side by side, comparing the viewing angles and colour shift for potential buyers?
There have been quite a few tweaks relating to the screen in custom SGS kernels, were you running stock or something like speedmod on the SGS?
You are very wicked boy now i want .
jje
Congrats alsheron
Hope ya will enjoy your new toy
Any hands-on pics? I know i can easily find it on google but... you know, its kinda different when pics are taken by a non-gadget bloggers
/nik on MIUI
Sorry guys - the screen issues and finding out that £399 is the price on O2 payg (i'm on o2 contract) has made me feel a bit more sick.
I'm attempting to take it back to phones4u tomorrow. I already called and can tell it's going to be trouble. They have to call "head office" apparently. Thank God I can show my existing SGS next to the new SGSII so that they can clearly see the difference. I consider the issues I described a fault of the first batch and being able to see the difference easily should help me but I've not got a good feeling about phones4u. We'll see though. Hopefully they'll surprise me.
Wish me luck! -> Really need all your goodwill
You should post a track from my tracks with both device to see how GPS compare
alsheron said:
Sorry guys - the screen issues and finding out that £399 is the price on O2 payg (i'm on o2 contract) has made me feel a bit more sick.
I'm attempting to take it back to phones4u tomorrow. I already called and can tell it's going to be trouble. They have to call "head office" apparently. Thank God I can show my existing SGS next to the new SGSII so that they can clearly see the difference. I consider the issues I described a fault of the first batch and being able to see the difference easily should help me but I've not got a good feeling about phones4u. We'll see though. Hopefully they'll surprise me.
Wish me luck! -> Really need all your goodwill
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I hope you have 2.3.3 on your SGS to compare it to your SGS2, as 2.3.3 will warm up any screen (google wanted this, not samsung). If you are compareing 2.2 or 2.2.1 with your new SGS2 then that is not a fare comparison of the screen and its color!
The Engadget review posted a few hours ago said there's an app or setting that lets you change the screen's colour temperature. In fact, they say pretty much the opposite to what you've said about the screen.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
Perhaps you have a faulty one.
Congrats man. And good luck!
Can't wait to get my hands on this new Galaxy.
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I want this phone SOOO bad :/ I literally love it.
Can you post the email apk please
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How does the samoled + perform in sunlight ? Better than samoled ?
Can you please post email.apk and Movie Maker apk.
I have been looking for that video editing software but couldn't find it anywhere. I will appreciate it if you do it. Thanks
wow. super envy.
no budget for a new phone this year so i'm stuck with the i9000.
me too so eager to have my hand on this phone....i am going to see and hold it first once they available here and decide if it is too big for me or not......btw this phone realy drive me crazy and hoping to change it with my SGS...btw I dont have any problem with my SGS right now even with the GPS.....
how is the battery life?
kelvs said:
wow. super envy.
no budget for a new phone this year so i'm stuck with the i9000.
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Well the SGS I is still a very nice and capable phone. You probably won't regret holding onto this one when the SGS III comes out.
matlear said:
Can you post the email apk please
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Here, I've pulled everything from "/system": [URL=http://hotfile.com/dl/116132455/f24648b/System.zip.html]http://hotfile.com/dl/116132455/f24648b/System.zip.html[/URL]
Davith said:
Well the SGS I is still a very nice and capable phone. You probably won't regret holding onto this one when the SGS III comes out.
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Any updates regarding s3?
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Samsung Developer Is Working On Colour Rendering/Banding/Black Clipping Issue***

Great news guys, the currently most updated news have state that Samsung Developer is working on Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 colour rendering/banding/black clipping issue. Good job Samsung :good:
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Hello Janice,
We are working on this issue.
When I know something new, I will post it here.
Regards,
Adam Panasiuk
Samsung Developers
for more information please refer to http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/bbs/discussion/view.do?boardId=1132&boardName=AndroidBoard&messageId=155754&messageNumber=&messageCategoryId=4&startId=zzzzz~&startPage=1&curPage=1&rowsPerPage=10&searchType=TITLE&searchText=&searchDays=0&searchTitleFlag=false&searchContentsFlag=false&searchRegisterNicknameFlag=false&lastPageFlag=&categoryId=800&parentCategoryId=4&platformId=1&selectOrder=REGISTER_DATE&selectOrderDirection=DESC&searchParameters=%2Fbbs%2Fdiscussion%2Fthread.list.do%3FlistLines%3D10|searchType%3Dtitle|curPage%3D4|selectOrder%3DREGISTER_DATE|selectOrderDirection%3DDESC|messageCategoryId%3D4|&nacode=&listLines=10&searchTextForm=&searchTypeForm=TITLE
Good News!!
yes, this indeed is a good news for us :laugh:.
I think its a codec issue. I took one of the last movies that I watched via HDMI from the GSN to a sony bravia 42" wide-screen telly and then compared that to playing the same movie file direct to the bravia via usb. the difference is amazing. So I dont think its so much the screen, but more likley to be the codecs on the SGN.
Then why do some notes have the black crush and banding really bad, and some have it really mild?
My first note was a bad one which i returned, i waited a month and bough another and this one is a lot better.
I think it`s an hardware problem, the screen or the display chips i dont know, but if two notes are running identical software, and one is bad and the other is not, what else can it be.
John.
i hope they prepare a fix for this and the emmc bug soon..
good news. edit: it just shows that maybe if the community had gone done this route 6 months ago we MAY have got an outcome similar to this then, rather than waiting on a 3rd party developer to come up if a fix and nagging them all the way.
Oh and good job to Janice for taking the initiative to start that thread on Samsung Dev
Don't be optimistic about what Samsung says....... for how long have they promised to work on the eMMC bug but have gone silence since then? They will just continue to focus on their Latest Flagship SGS3 and how to sell 10 million copies by July and after that how to get SGN2 on the way.They will not do anything about this problem..... maybe we should report this SH*T to media like ENDGADGET,GSMARENA etc etc
nuramohammed26 said:
Don't be optimistic about what Samsung says....... for how long have they promised to work on the eMMC bug but have gone silence since then? They will just continue to focus on their Latest Flagship SGS3 and how to sell 10 million copies by July and after that how to get SGN2 on the way.They will not do anything about this problem..... maybe we should report this SH*T to media like ENDGADGET,GSMARENA etc etc
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Get your facts right, they never promised to work on the Emmc bug...
I think the issue is more of a mis-color calibration part on the phones. Some have less mis color calibration than others.
Samsung's head QA supervisors should be fired a long time ago with this issue. Releasing a product that is never quite fully baked at all.
friedje said:
Get your facts right, they never promised to work on the Emmc bug...
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i think you're the one who needs to get his facts straight.. read this thread >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698977
have a nice day..
I have exactly the same problem here but I think try Samsung will ignore it:crying:
musashiro said:
i think you're the one who needs to get his facts straight.. read this thread >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698977
have a nice day..
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As I said, they never promised anything, just some Samsung developers trying to help the community.
Do you have any idea how many ppl work at Samsung ?
Do you have any idea at which level these contacts are ?
Have you seen ANY official announcement from samsung on this issue ??
I didn't say they are not doing anything, I said they never promised anything.
So as I said to the other member, get your facts right, the same applies to you
Be either someone from Samsung on from these forums, just make an app that allow us to control Gamma curve on this device, I can manage the situation with that.
I did tests with gammatest.png image and it looks different displayed on the Gallery and on QuickView.
But we need some way to manually adjust the brightness level, to make lower RGB values darker. I would like to see RGB 1,1,1 pretty much black, and RGB 5,5,5 different from 10,10,10. Right now any brightness level between 1 and 20 is rendered with pretty much the same brightness, and 0 is pure black.
This gives dark scenes a very bad aspect, with a big gray and a big black area instead of a gradient.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Then why do some notes have the black crush and banding really bad, and some have it really mild?
My first note was a bad one which i returned, i waited a month and bough another and this one is a lot better.
I think it`s an hardware problem, the screen or the display chips i dont know, but if two notes are running identical software, and one is bad and the other is not, what else can it be.
John.
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Well, I cant fight that one. The symptoms appear as a potential codec issue, but, your own observation points in the other direction. It's what I call another 'Samsung sods muddle'.
Allegedly : Sam*ung know there is a problem with the screen, but they don't want a recall, so every time somebody rings Sa*sung support they get told this is the first they have heard about it, also people were reporting that negative posts on review website were deleted or edited, is there a cover up?
I think Sam*ung is working on the problem behind the scenes, and new stock is a lot better at least in my case, but still not perfect.
Though i know HT*C has a problem with the one x , I have one with a yellow blob on the screen, and So*y xperias has a problem with the screen color of there new mobile.
So it`s not just Sa*sung having problems.
I don't want Sams*ng to release a firmware fix, as not all note`s are bad and i don't want my note with a good screen getting worse.
The screens need to be calibrated individually, but this is going to require the phone being returned to a service center, as a hardware calibrator will be needed, but i doubt Sa*ung will do this.
I think a app similar to the "screen adjuster" one, but a improved version that does not require root, and has an example image you have to match with a slider like you do with a lcd display calibrator.
My advice is if you have a note with black clipping or banding and you cannot live with it, get it replaced, I have read that it took one note owner 5 exchanges before he got a good one.
John.
E&OE
Stop starring out company names.
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it seems like samsung galaxy nexus is also having the black clipping issue, some user have claim that it have been solved by using the lean kernel (colour calibration) "wonder is there any something like this for galaxy note ??? "
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus/465326-horrible-blue-aliasing-artifacts-black-areas-during-video-playback.html
I have notest that, when I am taking a photo with the camera software, in dark conditions, I don't see the black clipping effect. I take the photo... then open it in Gallary and... the clipping appears there. So is something in the software.
This is really bugging me.
I just did another round with Samsung regarding this. They are terrible. I told them that I exchanged my device and the new one still has the problem, now they want me to send the brand new one for repair which will take up.to 2 weeks. The first rep I spoke to at technical support acknowkedged the problem and said it was normal, at which point I linked her to a youtube vid of a dude who finally got them to replace his Note with on manufactured recently, she was like Oh, and forwarded ny call to customer services, who blatently lied and said that they were not aware of the issue, so I linked her to samsungs own developer forum where one of the devs have acknowledged the problem and said that they are working on it, only for her to say that it was a 3rd party website and if they knew about it, there would have been an official announcement, I advised her that it was not a 3rd party, and that it was samsungmobile.com but she was having none of it and wanted me to send for repair. I told her to log the complaint and stick it. I already went 4 days without a phone when they advised me to exchange fir a new one (which has the same issue) Now they want me to go without a phone for 2 weeks only to get it back with the same issue again. Fing LAME!

-> Common problems of SGS3 <-

I was considering buying the Galaxy Note, but after I read the Note subforum carefully, I discovered few (major) issues with the device, which made me reconsider my choice.
Now I have the same situation with Galaxy S3. Before I purchase it, I want to know about all the potential problems that are known for this device. Maybe it has bad battary performance, maybe it has bad sound quality, maybe... ?
Please shortly list all the common problems (if any) that happen to be associated with this device.
not just building it up, but i can not say that i have noticed any big flaws with this device.
i have the Note right now as well, and i would pick the S3 hands down over my note, its faster, the screen is better, the battery is great compared to what i was getting on my Note and Skyrocket. and now with Jelly Bean/cm10 here this thing flys.
Gps is decent, Sound is much better than any other phone that i have had, and thats without Supercurio's Voodoo sound which should be dropped here soon.
Its a S3 forum, so yes you will get alot of people saying exactly what i am saying....its a great device. and if you HAVE to choose between the Note and S3 the S3 is a no brainer....
now the Note2 thats a different story when it drops......
TRX_ said:
I was considering buying the Galaxy Note, but after I read the Note subforum carefully, I discovered few (major) issues with the device, which made me reconsider my choice.
Now I have the same situation with Galaxy S3. Before I purchase it, I want to know about all the potential problems that are known for this device. Maybe it has bad battary performance, maybe it has bad sound quality, maybe... ?
Please shortly list all the common problems (if any) that happen to be associated with this device.
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I had a lot of issues and ended up having 4 replacement handsets and have just got a full refund today. Issues I experienced were; large gaps between the screen and bezel which allowed dust to settle on the edges of the screen, pink blotch issues when using the front camera, volume button and home button that stuck in when pressed, and all AMOLED screens suffer from ink marks on a black screen to varying degrees.
I think the initial production batches have suffered from poor build quality and I do think I will purchase the phone again in a month or so when the factories won't be over stretched to cope with demand. The pebble blue version which I had seems to suffer from a lot of issues which I put down to rushed production.
Good luck
the2rrell said:
not just building it up, but i can not say that i have noticed any big flaws with this device.
i have the Note right now as well, and i would pick the S3 hands down over my note, its faster, the screen is better, the battery is great compared to what i was getting on my Note and Skyrocket. and now with Jelly Bean/cm10 here this thing flys.
Gps is decent, Sound is much better than any other phone that i have had, and thats without Supercurio's Voodoo sound which should be dropped here soon.
Its a S3 forum, so yes you will get alot of people saying exactly what i am saying....its a great device. and if you HAVE to choose between the Note and S3 the S3 is a no brainer....
now the Note2 thats a different story when it drops......
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I agree with everything you've said, except for the GPS part.
I don't find it decent, it's exceptional imho.
It seems to be able to get a solid signal within 5 seconds on a cold start.
It uses both GPS and Glonass together, which explains why it's so fast, but it's still impressive to see.
But back on the subject, I've always chosen devices I was pretty sure I'd be happy with (I'm doing lots of research and reading a lot of reviews on them before buying), but it's the first time that I really don't have any complaints at all (besides minor problems with easy fixes/tweaks, but the phone is really stable and fast out of the box).
Even the only thing I thought I'd be disappointed about, coming from an HTC HD2 (the build quality and design), I was pleasantly surprised about the build quality, and I love the look of the phone, even if it's plastic.
Of course that's only my opinion, but I don't regret buying it one bit
These threads are a common problem in the S3 General section....if you look down I'm pretty sure you'll find threads already created, discussing the problems you've just mentioned
Sent from my Jelly Belly S3
TRX_ said:
I was considering buying the Galaxy Note, but after I read the Note subforum carefully, I discovered few (major) issues with the device, which made me reconsider my choice.
Now I have the same situation with Galaxy S3. Before I purchase it, I want to know about all the potential problems that are known for this device. Maybe it has bad battary performance, maybe it has bad sound quality, maybe... ?
Please shortly list all the common problems (if any) that happen to be associated with this device.
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I have been using Note for last 5 months . I bought it from Ebay . Till now I didn't face any problems with the device.
It depends on the device you get, some device may have manufacture defects and that's rare.
Worst case if you get such device you can get it replaced as you have warranty.
So stop thinking about odds and go for the device you love
The GS3 has had an unusually bug-free (relative to most other smartphone releases) launch.
Hardware Problems:
Crackling in audio output when phone display is off (phone is in idle mode). Can be fixed in software by setting sleep mode to Idle Only from Idle + LPA.
Some screens are faulty and have pink areas
Some cameras are faulty and cause pink blotches in images
Software problems:
Cell standby battery usage is misreported and over-inflated
Creating an SMS longer than 3 messages converts it into an MMS. No way to disable this unless modding.
Email client (not gmail) mail body field text selection is bugged. Text gets deleted randomly when moving the text selection handles.
Music player sometimes plays the wrong song (one from a previous playlist) when you click on a song.
Music player also has some problems with organising songs into albums, creating duplicate albums with the same name.
The quick scroll alphabet column (in contacts and music lists) has a delay when sliding finger on it for the first time after app load
That's all I can think of right now.
jonathanyong said:
The GS3 has had an unusually bug-free (relative to most other smartphone releases) launch.
Hardware Problems:
Crackling in audio output when phone display is off (phone is in idle mode). Can be fixed in software by setting sleep mode to Idle Only from Idle + LPA.
Some screens are faulty and have pink areas
Some cameras are faulty and cause pink blotches in images
Software problems:
Cell standby battery usage is misreported and over-inflated
Creating an SMS longer than 3 messages converts it into an MMS. No way to disable this unless modding.
Email client (not gmail) mail body field text selection is bugged. Text gets deleted randomly when moving the text selection handles.
Music player sometimes plays the wrong song (one from a previous playlist) when you click on a song.
Music player also has some problems with organising songs into albums, creating duplicate albums with the same name.
The quick scroll alphabet column (in contacts and music lists) has a delay when sliding finger on it for the first time after app load
That's all I can think of right now.
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I'd say the marble white version was relatively bug-free as a launch handset but the pebble blue version probably has just as many launch defects as any other handset. For example, I ended up going through four faulty pebble blue handsets until finally giving up and getting my money back.
Physical home button - hard to reach, hard to press, looks stupid, feels stupid
Wake up lag - Push the power button and wait 1.500 ms for the screen to appear
Only 1 GB RAM - Not enough for a top phone in 2012... This is not 2011 anymore, Samsung!
Nothing else.. Everything else is top class..
Yea that lag is sooooooooo long I fall asleep! And I have to get a long stick to push that dam home button! And the battery it last way to long! Why can't it just die after 14hours like the rest? If you didn't know I was being sarcastic!
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but the pebble blue version probably has just as many launch defects as any other handset.
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Same device, other color. Other batch though since it was produced after the white one due to quality control issues with the color.
Wake up lag - Push the power button and wait 1.500 ms for the screen to appear
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Siyah-Kernel greatly fixes that issue. CM9/CM10 even more, it's probably well below 0.5sec
sav_uk said:
I'd say the marble white version was relatively bug-free as a launch handset but the pebble blue version probably has just as many launch defects as any other handset. For example, I ended up going through four faulty pebble blue handsets until finally giving up and getting my money back.
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I think you are just too picky about the phone being built perfect it's not going to happen for any phone. The chances of getting a perfectly built phone with no defects at all is lower than getting some minor defect such as "the gap being too big between the bezel and letting in dust" I can't believe they even let you return it for that reason. Good luck on your quest of finding the perfect phone.
Halmo said:
I think you are just too picky about the phone being built perfect it's not going to happen for any phone. The chances of getting a perfectly built phone with no defects at all is lower than getting some minor defect such as "the gap being too big between the bezel and letting in dust" I can't believe they even let you return it for that reason. Good luck on your quest of finding the perfect phone.
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My returns were all due to pink blotch issues with the front camera which is unacceptable. I've never had a phone that takes pictures with a pink blotch. In addition to that pink blotch two of my devices also had large gaps. Bits of dust actually got stuck under the screen which, again, is unacceptable for a £500 phone. Samsung must ensure the bezel and screen are correctly sealed so that dust does not build up in inaccessible areas. I've also never had a phone where I could see black dots and whirls on the screen when viewing YouTube videos at night. I'd rather have blacks that are not so deep but are consistent in colour.
Thing is, general build quality of phones is going down whilst prices are going up. It's inevitable.
Love the phone, not noticed any bugs or faults at all. No crackling when playing back audio via headphones
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Siyah-Kernel greatly fixes that issue. CM9/CM10 even more, it's probably well below 0.5sec
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No kernel fixes it. I've tried every single one available on the development section. They are all the same. 1.5 seconds wasted every time you turn on the screen.
Measure it yourself: http://online-stopwatch.chronme.com/
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No kernel fixes it. I've tried every single one available on the development section. They are all the same. 1.5 seconds wasted every time you turn on the screen.
Measure it yourself: http://online-stopwatch.chronme.com/
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I must be very lucky my phone not even a half of a second, maybe because I'm running a live wallpaper? Or maybe my phone not rooted? But is that 1.5 that important to you? Then you need to change phones,
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Poker gypsy said:
I must be very lucky my phone not even a half of a second, maybe because I'm running a live wallpaper? Or maybe my phone not rooted? But is that 1.5 that important to you? Then you need to change phones,
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You seem to be trying so hard to start a conversation with me, but sorry, I don't talk to noobs. Especially ones who think live wallpapers change time Exynos SOC waits for the modem to go out of deep sleep.
I don't need our want you as a friend sorry, just get another phone if it's that bad for you
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aydc said:
You seem to be trying so hard to start a conversation with me, but sorry, I don't talk to noobs. Especially ones who think live wallpapers change time Exynos SOC waits for the modem to go out of deep sleep.
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I know how to solve your problem! Get another phone! It's simple if your gong to lose asleep about 1.5 it's not worth it
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Poker gypsy said:
I know how to solve your problem! Get another phone! It's simple if your gong to lose asleep about 1.5 it's not worth it
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I didn't know that you was that famous! Please send me your autograph lol
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For all the HTC fanboys who've spent the last few weeks bashing the Zs display.

Just have a look at this. It wasn't even a contest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDi95S-PJ8
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lol are you joking? what do you see really
you can't judge the screen in a youtube video, plus all are commenting that they look similar
It's the poor view angles on the Z that we've been bashing
meawhile you are too busy being impressed by the exagerrated contrast and colors on the Xperia (like they do in showroom tv displays) and don't care that it looks cheap when washed out from sides
from the makers of bravia televisions this inexcusable anymore
you and your thread are reported for breaking the rules
All I see are slight more vibrant colours on the experia... Nothing else
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xXxG0dzRAgexXx said:
Yeah it wasn't, because I saw no difference In anything at all. LOL. Very very slight color differences but that's it. Now lets view the same video at an angle.
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Maybe it's just me, but I prefer the Ones' colour rendition in that video. The rest of the handset is imho so much nicer than the Z, that it makes no real difference anyway.
How many people will be watching two videos side-by-side, day-in day-out.... and thinking "sh1t, I wish I'd bought the other handset which I dislike for every other reason than the display"
Your eye's and brain quickly adapt to the display anyway..... that's why we all have different TV's
Well, form this youTube video,
XZ's colours are stronger because there's a high chance that Bravia Engine is turned on.
Secondly, the video is taken head-on. So yes, I do like what I see in the youTube.
Now in real-life, when the Bravia Engine is turned off (for all tasks except pics and vids) the contrast on the device is poor (can be solved by software I believe).. and at an angle, the screen instantly starts to be cloudy.
Sure, people will say that "who will look at the screen at an angle".
Yes, I said the same thing.. until I actually owned the phone for 10 days. I leave the phone at my desk and while sitting back, I can hardly make out my home screen.
Don't take it as Sony vs HTC. It all depends on usage.
ps: I sold my XZ. Waiting for something nice to drop by now..
slannmage said:
No one cares about Sony or HTC any more.
Bow down to your Samsung overlords!
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sigh...
getting tired of hitting report...
Thread Closed, Full of flaming and arguing. Topic has created too much fighting.
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OK, as even after closure of this thread some people took offense from some posts here, I deleted the most abusive ones.
Posting with the intention of starting a flame war is not on. This thread in this forum is only going to cause a bad reaction. Time to chill i think​

im now worried about my s4 screen being faulty after reading Q&A forum

Hi im new here my galaxy s4 is coming on 1st may and i just looked in the trouble shooting forum here one of the thread and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252445 with loads of people with screen problems i hope its just software
MopHeadGeek said:
Hi im new here my galaxy s4 is coming on 1st may and i just looked in the trouble shooting forum here one of the thread and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252445 with loads of people with screen problems i hope its just software
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Relax, since you haven't even received your phone yet I wouldn't worry. Besides, don't forget the people posting on these forums are a fraction of people who have received this phone and have no issue. People post when they have issues, not so much when they don't.
The pictures they took were taken with screenshots so its all software. The displays are fine. When a phone first releases someone always finds something that's not right with it. I find that's very minor compared to the screen seperation with the nexus 7 and light bleed with htc phones
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AMOLED problem forever: quality inconsistency
My Note 2 is much worse than my friends with greenish white and bad viewing angle (luckily it's also brighter)
No the pictures were not screen shots. Its definitely a hardware issue.
The pictures have the screenshot notification on the top... How is it not a screenshot where's the phone at then???
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ive been thinking the same thing... but in the back of my mind, most of the people who dont have an issue wont post in the troubleshooting forum. yet, all the people who have an issue, and post in q&a will be asking questions and troubleshooting problems.
if you dont want the negativity (problems, troubleshooting) try the general forum, or accessories forum.
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The pictures have the screenshot notification on the top... How is it not a screenshot where's the phone at then???
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Pretty sure the screenshots are trying to show where to look for the effect.
Oh yes Its definitely an issue with the new amoled screen ... go to every place that has a demo set and try to scroll the settings page (dark black background) and you'll notice immediately ... its like the screen has a refresh rate of 10 fps in black bg
Very embarassing for Sammy ... this is going to blowout into a huge media issue real soon, you'll see
Yeah the screen shot are only showing you where to look it says but a couple of pages in there's a YouTube video if you watch it in 1080p on a laptop you can see it I'm just paranoid now haha pay 600 pound for a phone that don't even come on the day it's meant to be delivered haha
Tell me which Samsung phone with amoled hasn't had some people complain about the screens. I would venture that 95%+ of those owners don't have a calibrated TV or monitor, or even close. I have been very fortunate to have almost all phones I have owned to have virtually perfect screens. I've seen much worse with demo monitors, whether they be phones, TVs or monitors and people oooh and aaah about how great they look. So right now I am shaking my damn head.
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If anyone with an s4 looking at this can you see the problem in 1080p videos or Facebook app or twitter or gaming as that's what I use my phone for
Ok. First thing, you start a thread ABOUT a thread. Why not just discuss it in the original.
Secondly, the smearing issue happens when scrolling in settings. Nowhere else. I'm sure you can live with it.
Mwah!
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No need to get cocky haha I was simply asking a question in a different forum room to see if anyone else had the problem and its been confirmed my samsung I think it's software related where they haven't set touch wiz refresh rate high enough so a simple update will sort it
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i came across this video on youtube this guy seems to be having the same problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XE-a5h_bGs
MopHeadGeek said:
If anyone with an s4 looking at this can you see the problem in 1080p videos or Facebook app or twitter or gaming as that's what I use my phone for
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Yes. Just tried a video with a dark BG and a white person dancing. On low brightness you see weird artifacts sometimes. Also tried in Pocket, the text looks ugly when scrolling with dark theme.
can ou try on full brightness or 50 60 % and report back as thats meant to stop the issue
Mine seems fine... bit of a nit-picky thing anyways to be honest, hardly a common real world scenario...
shortie1987 said:
Mine seems fine... bit of a nit-picky thing anyways to be honest, hardly a common real world scenario...
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Scrolling on your screen is a real world scenario.
ste1164 said:
Scrolling on your screen is a real world scenario.
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One where a tiny, barely noticeable amount of stutter is going to destroy the browsing of a menu?
EDIT: OK, so it was so unnoticeable I missed it on my own screen, but I've noticed it to. Its hardly worth crying over though... as mentioned already, its pretty much only ever going to happen on the settings menu.
I can confirm that with the brightness turned up max, the purple tinge does seem to be reduced.

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