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Has anyone noticed that the Galaxy Note is not as fast as it should be? I compared it to a Galaxy S II and the SII was just buttery smooth in terms of speed compared to the Note. The more I played around with the SII the more I noticed the speed and smoothness difference, and it confused me because the Note has a faster processor so it leaves me wondering why the Note is slower.
EDIT: I don't know if anyone else has noticed but there seems to be a very slight lag between input and the phone responding, for nearly everything. From swiping/scrolling to opening up apps, there just seems to be a bit of lag. The SII does not have this, that I can see. Everything is almost instant on it, as soon as you give input to the SII it responds.
Also, for those of you who are lucky enough to have upgraded to 2.3.6, is there a noticeable difference in terms of general speed and smoothness?

Exactly.........
Same i observed as well with d demo piece kept in the shop.
Note is bit lagging than the galaxy s2.
Please answer the question. Did firmware update 2.3.6 improved performance?
Can ICS update make it as smooth as s2 or nexus?
Thanks in advance.

I dont know wat u guys are talking about.. My notes smooth.. And i had owned a s2 before..
And relax, its the initial days of the note... More updates will come. And ics is only gonna make it better

Sorry but I have to disagree. I would say my Note is buttery smooth, insanely quick & responsive...
I've never owned the previous Galaxy S2 but have tried it in the shop and it's no way any quicker, infact it was choppy at times...
I take it it depends what apps you are running since certain apps are buggy and cause problems such as the device being sluggish at times?
My note has never lagged or been slow. I'm running the stock launcher. I tried others but did not like them.
List of installed apps:
Flash Player
File Manager
Viz Battery
Wallpaper Wizardrii
Smart Keyboard
Beautiful Widgets
Angry Birds (all three)
Yahoo Messenger
Msn Messenger
Skype
Barcode Scanner
MixZing
MX Video Player
Adobe Reader
Opera
Equalizer

I notice that the Android OS uses about double the display. Also when typing fast there is lag. I know about freezing apps, but ill just wait for custom ROMs.
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i am so pleased to hear this.....
i have not yet bought it, yesterday for the first time i saw a demo piece.
Dont know why but i found it bit laggy. Maybe beacuse the expectations with which i went there.
anyways will need to see another demo piece b4 so that can buy without a doubt...

Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.

straxusii said:
Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.
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of course we know that.........
i just want to know is it really slow than S2? (whatever may be the reason)

I still got 2.3.5 I'm very picky about speed in my phone, one thing I have noticed is that whenever memory gets really full the device suffers, say for example you launch the default browser and it's choppy, just try this: launch the task manager and do a clear memory from the ram tab.relauncb the browser and compare the speed, lighting fast!
I belive that it somehow loses the hardware acceleration at one point, so next time you guys try one specially at a demo stand, just clear the ram and give it a go.
Input lag is something I haven't noticed, what's more typing using SwiftKey is truly an experience! Zero lag and lighting speed! So I wouldn't worry much about it I'm pretty sure it has more to do with the early stage of the firmware than the lack of hardware to do it.
I truly belive speed is not an issue on this device,it's by no means perfect but it's definitely an experience using this screen with this power under the hood
Also I totally agree about the underrated s-pen people still don't realise that this is not just a piece of plastic with a fine tip, the pen is not crappy one like the horrible stylus on windows mobile phones, this pen uses a magnetic technology developed by wacom, what this means is a mix between accuracy an speed of capacitive touch also let's not forget that it can detect and separate between a normal finger press and pen press it had the potential of doing mouse hovering, not yet implemented on gingerbread drivers, also it finally brings pressure sensitive to the artist so it truly can be used as a sketched on the go!
Download if you want to try the app
Multitouch visualizer 2, so you can see how accurate the pressure and the pen itself is!
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The only reason S2 is faster is because it has a laughable super low res WVGA display. Low pixel counts = faster rendering time.

Hi,
Please check the attachment. It is the screenshot of my version on my galaxy note.
I bought my phone yesterday. I connected and and updated firmware using samsung kies software. Now the screen is lagging while scrolling. Please check and suggest something.
Thanks

straxusii said:
Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.
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katyarevishal said:
of course we know that.........
i just want to know is it really slow than S2? (whatever may be the reason)
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dude he just said it
what more do you want to know?

gv.chaitanya8 said:
Hi,
Please check the attachment. It is the screenshot of my version on my galaxy note.
I bought my phone yesterday. I connected and and updated firmware using samsung kies software. Now the screen is lagging while scrolling. Please check and suggest something.
Thanks
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I just updated to DTB PDA KK9 and it feels smoother. Launcher Pro is not stuttering as it was. Battery life infinitely better. Still 50% after a long 16hr day of quite heavy use as opposed to 15% after 8hrs.
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Isn't the Note pushing twice the resolution of the GSII?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out folks

No lag on mine. Justas fast as any other device
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kanej2006 said:
I've never owned the previous Galaxy S2 but have tried it in the shop and it's no way any quicker, infact it was choppy at times...
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Probably because it was a demo unit.
I'm running exact same setup on both SGS2 and the Note (Launcher Pro, Widget Locker, etc) and SGS2 definitely is noticeably smoother than the Note in UI operations

Nexus 4 Input Lag

Hey Guys,
ever since i use Android im kind of annoyed by the responsiveness of the tochscreen. Even with state of the art smartphones like the S3 (ICS version) there is substantial lag. (compared for instance to an iphone)
I was really excited when JellyBean was announced because as it seems, it addresses the issue.
However when i tried an S3 with JellyBean i still felt the lag.
My question is whether the Nexus 4 actually matches the Iphone in responsiveness.
(I do not mean the stuttering when opening for instance the app drawer, i mean the pure relation of the finger touching the device and the quickness of the response of the device.)

schnip said:
Hey Guys,
ever since i use Android im kind of annoyed by the responsiveness of the tochscreen. Even with state of the art smartphones like the S3 (ICS version) there is substantial lag. (compared for instance to an iphone)
I was really excited when JellyBean was announced because as it seems, it addresses the issue.
However when i tried an S3 with JellyBean i still felt the lag.
My question is whether the Nexus 4 actually matches the Iphone in responsiveness.
(I do not mean the stuttering when opening for instance the app drawer, i mean the pure relation of the finger touching the device and the quickness of the response of the device.)
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It uses the same new technology as the iPhone 5 which brings the touchpanel closer to the front glass meaning responsiveness should be significantly better. It's called In-Cell Touch display if you want to Google it.

You'll get a real answer when the phone comes out. Or check video reviews. We know as much as you do at this point.

Thanks for the answers enviii and ralexand!
The thing is, this input lag issue is very rarely adressed. It seems to me as if most poeple dont even notice it. It may be that im kinda picky there but its definitely a very important feature for me...

As the device has been released I would appreciate someone talking about the mentioned issue, who actually posseses the phone.

enviii said:
It uses the same new technology as the iPhone 5 which brings the touchpanel closer to the front glass meaning responsiveness should be significantly better. It's called In-Cell Touch display if you want to Google it.
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lol... that's just not true. It helps viewing angles, but has absolutely no effect on responsiveness.

The thing is, It could be or could not be,I think its just what peoples definition of smoothness and response is. Never know until the phones out. IMO
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gulbir101 said:
The thing is, It could be or could not be,I think its just what peoples definition of smoothness and response is. Never know until the phones out. IMO
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Well for me the scale is definitely the iphone. (even still the 3G when scrolling homescreens) Also top notch Windows Phones offer very good responsiveness.

schnip said:
Hey Guys,
ever since i use Android im kind of annoyed by the responsiveness of the tochscreen. Even with state of the art smartphones like the S3 (ICS version) there is substantial lag. (compared for instance to an iphone)
I was really excited when JellyBean was announced because as it seems, it addresses the issue.
However when i tried an S3 with JellyBean i still felt the lag.
My question is whether the Nexus 4 actually matches the Iphone in responsiveness.
(I do not mean the stuttering when opening for instance the app drawer, i mean the pure relation of the finger touching the device and the quickness of the response of the device.)
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I guess it would be better for you to stay with iPhone.

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iPhone relies on a system that basically delivers all or much of the available resources to the graphical interface when scrolling, which slows down or stops whatever else the phone is doing at the time (ie stops loading a web page when you start scrolling or momentarily pauses a download). This, along with a very strong GPU, is much of the reason for the smooth interface. (note: this info was taken from an interview with a Google employee, probably about a year or less ago. Could be outdated, but I believe it's still true...)
4.1 ramped up graphics rendering FPS to 60fps. This, a long with a strong GPU, S4 Pro processor and (mainly) 2 gigs of ram should result in an incredibly smooth UI. Also, the curved glass on the edges of the screen have been noted to give a much smoother feel to scrolling, whether it's a placebo effect or not will just have to be determined over time.
Long story short...yeah, this thing should be smooth as butter (pun intended)

Also iOS is more optimized since its on for few devices.
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actually the big main reason for smoothness of ios vs android is that...every single application (basically everything) runs on virtual machines on the android unlike ios.. so it is true that the beefier the hardware the smoother the device..and thats y ios is able to run smooth even with lesser hardware..

joedoe said:
I guess it would be better for you to stay with iPhone.
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I have never owned an iphone and i never will. I love android but im always excited for new features and improvements!
tgtoys said:
iPhone relies on a system that basically delivers all or much of the available resources to the graphical interface when scrolling, which slows down or stops whatever else the phone is doing at the time (ie stops loading a web page when you start scrolling or momentarily pauses a download). This, along with a very strong GPU, is much of the reason for the smooth interface. (note: this info was taken from an interview with a Google employee, probably about a year or less ago. Could be outdated, but I believe it's still true...)
4.1 ramped up graphics rendering FPS to 60fps. This, a long with a strong GPU, S4 Pro processor and (mainly) 2 gigs of ram should result in an incredibly smooth UI. Also, the curved glass on the edges of the screen have been noted to give a much smoother feel to scrolling, whether it's a placebo effect or not will just have to be determined over time.
Long story short...yeah, this thing should be smooth as butter (pun intended)
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ferozfero said:
actually the big main reason for smoothness of ios vs android is that...every single application (basically everything) runs on virtual machines on the android unlike ios.. so it is true that the beefier the hardware the smoother the device..and thats y ios is able to run smooth even with lesser hardware..
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Thanks for this in-depth information. I have already known some of this from posts by google employees on their google+ pages.
I hope the changes introduced in JellyBean and the sheer performance of the Nexus 4 can overcome the innate performance issues of Android.
When someone has made first real life experiences with the device please let me know

schnip said:
I have never owned an iphone and i never will. I love android but im always excited for new features and improvements!
Thanks for this in-depth information. I have already known some of this from posts by google employees on their google+ pages.
I hope the changes introduced in JellyBean and the sheer performance of the Nexus 4 can overcome the innate performance issues of Android.
When someone has made first real life experiences with the device please let me know
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I have a Nexus S (awaiting a 16GB N4) and I can tell you that Jellybean offered a tremendous improvement in smoothness.
As for the lack of improvement with the S3 and Jelly Bean, do keep in mind that is not "stock" Jellybean, Samsung may have avoided using any of the "project butter" code for their own GPU rendering.. Only Nexus devices are guaranteed the advertised improvements listed by Google, once an OEM touches there's no guarantee.

Only the framerate is high. There is MASSIVE input lag of 100-200ms on every Android device. As evidenced in every video of the Nexus 4 the screen lags behind your finger by 1 inch or more when swiping. This makes it feel extremely sluggish and unresponsive in apps like Facebook and games like Canabalt are unplayable.

I noticed this too when I first started messing around with my N4.
A test I like to do is use the calculator, and see how many numbers I could hit before they would be highlighted (which I assume means the device starts registering the command). For some reason I was getting 2 (almost 3) punches before the device would see it. On my Wildfire S and my iPod Touch the input lag was never this bad.
Amazingly, I actually found a solution. I don't remember if I turned it on myself or if it came on by default, but my phone had the "Magnification gestures" on. You can find them in the "Accessibility" settings. I turned it off, and BAM! The input lag has practically disappeared. I don't know why it was doing that or how it's related, but this has effectively fixed it for me. There may still be a slight input lag, but it's small enough that I can ignore it. Before it was easily over 500 ms.
Hope this helps.

I've made sure that's off on every Android device I've tested. The input lag is still considerably worse than the iPhone.

Occasional Stutter or Lag on the S4?

I've been hearing on some reviews that there are some moments that the Touchwiz UI will have an occasional stutter or lag. Do you guys think that downloading a different launcher, like Apix, will help solve that? Or will I have to go to the dark side of the phone and root it?
Also to some of you S3 owners out there, did installing CM10 or any other custom roms help remove any signs of lag or stuttering from the phone?

lemonz23 said:
I've been hearing on some reviews that there are some moments that the Touchwiz UI will have an occasional stutter or lag. Do you guys think that downloading a different launcher, like Apix, will help solve that? Or will I have to go to the dark side of the phone and root it?
Also to some of you S3 owners out there, did installing CM10 or any other custom roms help remove any signs of lag or stuttering from the phone?
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i noticed the same on mine... Its a GT-I9505...
My Nexus 4 is smoother....

I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
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I'm guessing it's the use of 4.2. It was a big step backwards from 4.1.

MultiLockOn said:
I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
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Did you ever try to install a custom rom for any of those devices? The only smart phone I've owned was a Samsung Infuse (The little brother of the S2) and the lag on that phone was terrible, despite the amount of roms I've put on it.

I have seen lag in the widget drawer, first time when you try to swipe to a different page in the widget drawer. Seems like 4.2 update have broken a few things in terms of smoothness.

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I have seen lag in the widget drawer, first time when you try to swipe to a different page in the widget drawer. Seems like 4.2 update have broken a few things in terms of smoothness.
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So did I. Didn't notice a lag in other screens, though...

lemonz23 said:
Did you ever try to install a custom rom for any of those devices? The only smart phone I've owned was a Samsung Infuse (The little brother of the S2) and the lag on that phone was terrible, despite the amount of roms I've put on it.
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I still have the Droid Charge, the Infuse's ugly brother on Verizon. They both use galaxy S hardware in the age of the S II, and Samsung didn't really give a crap about them software wise. I remember when the Charge got the gingerbread update there was a line that read something like this in the source:
/*This is a temporary piece of crappy code that I was forced to write as I did not figure
out how to properly use the driver in the system. Please resist the temptation of ever using
this code in a good Samsung phone. I will remove this code as soon as I figure out the correct
way of using the driver*/
The old hardware and the bad development are likely the problems. We did just get an OTA update a couple of weeks ago that fixed a lot of lag, though. Maybe it was that guy's driver, who knows.

lemonz23 said:
I've been hearing on some reviews that there are some moments that the Touchwiz UI will have an occasional stutter or lag. Do you guys think that downloading a different launcher, like Apix, will help solve that? Or will I have to go to the dark side of the phone and root it?
Also to some of you S3 owners out there, did installing CM10 or any other custom roms help remove any signs of lag or stuttering from the phone?
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It's an existing feature in Samsung phones called S-lag.
So how's the dialer? Does it still open for 3 secs?

MultiLockOn said:
I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
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I read somewhere that the lag is not the devices themselves but more on Android's native coding (how it was built ground up). Android works like a computer and differences are the way it utilizes the CPU/GPU. For example, when you are browsing and click on something on iOS, it stops everything and performs new instructions right away. In Android, it still process last set of instructions.
So Android reduces the lag by brute force by (dual, quad core, more memory, GPU etc) whereas iOS, because of different coding they don't need to. Many apps on Android are really customized versions of Java. And didn't Steve Jobs eliminate Java because it is too slow/power consuming for Mobile?
Even Nexus devices lag. When you turn on the phone and start scrolling and browsing right away really fast there is some lag.

There is an interesting just released article on that matter , in french, but numbers speak for themselves :
lesnumeriques.com/reactivite-tactile-ecran-21-smartphones-tablettes-n29229.html
(sorry can't publish full url yet.
Limited set of devices for now but more to come and undoubtly GS4.
So far,
no surprise, Iphone 5 beat them all : 75ms
GS3 : quite good : 105ms
HTC one : a bit disappointing : 145

MultiLockOn said:
I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
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Note II with Nova on here, and zero lags (except if you unlock from deep sleep and immediately without waiting, like within 1 second or something, pull down the notification bar, there's a lag, but that's me being nitpicky here). I guess it's a snapdragon thing rather, I'm on N7100 international Note II. Can vouch for that anyways.

I feel like this will be fixed with updates.
A lot of them said it was in awkward apps.. the kind of apps you wouldn't expect to get lag.

On engadgets review, they say that the air view and air gestures seen to make the phone a lot more sluggish. So hopefully disabling one of those features will help speed it up.

Note 2 user chiming in. Not even mad about lag. There is no such thing as lag free. Show me proof if there is.
Also got an GS4 arriving tomorrow. Removing bloatware as soon as I gain root.
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When I was trying out the note 2 at the att store I noticed that some of the transitions would stutter from time to time (getting inand out of the app drawer, notification pulll down stutter) When I was trying out the HTC One, the only lag slight lag I got was on the widget select screen. Everything was literally smooth and fluid, it was awesome! The only reason why I was sold to the S4 instead of the One was because of the power button and volume buttons being so flush in the casing. I would have to slide my finger across the top just to pinpoint the power button which was very annoying and so I was thinking of avoiding the One. And I honestly like the design of the S4 more. But even the slightest lag on the S4 will deter me away from it, if it is constantly happening that is.

i'm not sure why some of u have lag or stutter on N2
i only have stutter on the notification drawer if i have a looot of notifications

Have you noticed some lags on the stock browser app? It seems there are some issues with pinch-in/out.

invano said:
Have you noticed some lags on the stock browser app? It seems there are some issues with pinch-in/out.
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no stock browser smooth as butter , Chrome stutter sometimes

yahyoh said:
no stock browser smooth as butter , Chrome stutter sometimes
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Can I ask you what is the version of the fw?
i9505 or 9500?
Thanks man

Your galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition experience - pro's and con's

Hello I created this thread to share each of our thoughts, opinions, and feelings about the device so far.
I'll start.
Pro's
So far I really like this device. The screen display is the best I've seen so far.
One of the best features is multi tasking. The screen size makes perfect sense for doing so compared smartphones.
The main reason I ordered this tablet is because of college. Reading articles and textbooks are great due to 1080p display and it's pixels per inch.
My magazine/flipboard is a great integration into touchwiz ui even thought it feels laggy at first.
Con's
Though this is branded as a high spec device, I did notice some minor lag which doesn't bother me to much. But for a high end device and it's asking price, it's unexceptional!
Missing certain note 3 features like nfc, usb3.0
Physical buttons personally isn't the best idea. When I use this device in portrait mode, my fingers sometimes might hit them.
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Anyone want to share your impressions and experience about the device so far?
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Pros
- SPen
- Multi Windows Feature
- Hardwarekeys
Cons
- very hot around the camera (in Potrait Mode its to warm for me, on the other side is the home button)
- lags are often (Chrome, Firefox extremly. other Browser ok but not for a tablet for this price)

Agree almost entirely with op. Hopefully custom toms get rid of lag.
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I'm coming from the TF700, so I'm in heaven.
My pro's, beside not having extreme lag like my Infinity, are the screen and, also, the feel. The TF700 used to dig into my hands when I was holding it between my thumb and forefinger. This device is smoother on my fingers; when I hold the device in the same way, the device doesn't cut into my hands.
My cons are basically using Touchwiz (this is my first Sammy-d, so I have to become adjusted and figure out where to go to adjust settings and what-not. I also don't care for the physical buttons, because I'm constantly changing from portrait to landscape, and vice-verse.
But, overall...I'm very happy; I'll put up with the little things as long as I have a tablet that will do what I tell it to do, instead of waiting for an eternity.
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Pros: screen is awesome. S pen seems better than original, stock video player does better job with media server
Con's: Listening to all the people who probably do not even own the device talk about lag!
I propose that you have to prove ownership of note 2014 to post a complaint about lag AND show video proof.

Oh yeah!? Well....... I say anybody NOT having lag should also prove it with video and at least two ghost apparition sightings. It IS nearing Halloween

Just to let you know the resolution is higher than 1080P.
I agree with Most of your list though
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Pros:
-Display (as everyone has already mentioned).
-Design is sleek and much more comfortable and easy to handle than the previous model. I love the hard buttons and it works well with me. One issue I have heard about though is that the main menu button isn't receded so sometimes when pressure is applied to a case around that area it will wake up the tablet. As I don't have a case yet I can't confirm that this is an issue, but I believe just be running my finger over the button.
-S Pen (for the most part)
-And despite what many have said this thing is generally very fast. It's only within some applications that it gets a little laggy and I'm hoping that this will improve with software updates.
Cons:
-Mainly the software. I hate the new S Note. So much in fact, that I purchased Lecture Notes without having received my galaxy perks (which I"m still waiting on actually). Also I was a little disappointed that the air command wasn't customizable as I had heard it would be (or maybe I just haven't figured out how to do that yet). Taking screen shots with the lasso and s-button seems slower than it was in the older model, but I love that there are more options to shape the outline more cleanly.I'd also really love to be able to uninstall or disable some of the bloatware, like mymagazines. I'm sure it's a great app, but I personally have no need for it.
-There are hardly any accessories out for this baby yet. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with a case.
-The back of the tablet gets a little warm, but not so warm to the point where I'd be concerned about it. I've had laptops that would get uncomfortably hot so maybe I've just been desensitized to this issue.
And the biggest problem I've had with this thing... the thing that has actually made me consider returning it is the customer service. I have not gotten my perks yet and contacted them several times only to get the run around. Each time I called back I found out that they had taken my information incorrectly and I honestly feel like they were toying with me. I spoke with one rep who seems more genuine than the others and said I should get them by Thursday so I'm holding out hope. There is no way I'll take this thing back, but if I dont' get my perks I may reach out to a friend who works for samsung in Korea. It'd be an awkward convo though cause I haven't spoken to the guy in years.... 대한민국!

May be off topic (I am not writing a review) but I think 'lag' in general on this device is unacceptable. If you're advertising a powerhouse piece of technology and it stutters in an internet browser then something is wrong. Using a different launcher to reduce 'lag' is also unacceptable as it shouldn't even be there in the first place! Hopefully new firmware irons out the kinks (I'm sure the lag isn't tablet-related as it just needs some optimization)

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Oh yeah!? Well....... I say anybody NOT having lag should also prove it with video and at least two ghost apparition sightings. It IS nearing Halloween
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As someone with both the this device and an HTC one, I can say that the note certainly lags more. It's not something that's major, but it's certainly noticeable if your coming from something smoother.
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Oh yeah!? Well....... I say anybody NOT having lag should also prove it with video and at least two ghost apparition sightings. It IS nearing Halloween
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I recorded a video on my crappy iphone, but i can't transfer it and i refuse to install that memory hog of crap itunes to get to it. I should be getting a note 2 in the next couple of weeks so i'll take a video then. is there anything in particular that you wanted me to do on it?
I admittedly dont' do too much on it besides browsing and taking notes. The worst I've seen the lag is when I have a webbroswer open and I'm writing in lecture notes. the writing shows up a second after i've written something and that is a bit annoying. Over all though I think people are being too critical of the lag. It's not so bad that it's keeping me from working on it (with the exception of using split screen between lecture notes and the default browser.
Besides for this tablet it's all about the s pen. if it wasn't for that i wouldn't have bothered with a tablet at all. I think smart phones are good for when you're on the move and if i'm going to sit down to watch a movie or do some gaming... well that's what i've got my laptop for. I don't live in a big city with good public transportation, but i could easily see myself just using my phone to watch a movie on a train or bus. I wouldn't bring out a tablet for that even if I owned one.

Sitting next to my rooted S3 running AOSP 4.3 it's a bit laggier. That's undeniable, IMO, and I'd argue that it's because of Samsung's bloated OS additions. It's not a device problem, I don't think.
However... I could not possibly care less. It's attractive, feels AMAZING in the hands (why is everyone complaining about the back?? I don't even want a case!!), the speakers are burly, the screen is superb, the stylus with the art apps can make stuff that looks like it was tone with a Wacom tablet, the cameras are SURPRISINGLY solid, it multi-tasks more like a PC than any tablet I've ever seen, and it's just... a joy to use.

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I recorded a video on my crappy iphone, but i can't transfer it and i refuse to install that memory hog of crap itunes to get to it. I should be getting a note 2 in the next couple of weeks so i'll take a video then. is there anything in particular that you wanted me to do on it?
I admittedly dont' do too much on it besides browsing and taking notes. The worst I've seen the lag is when I have a webbroswer open and I'm writing in lecture notes. the writing shows up a second after i've written something and that is a bit annoying. Over all though I think people are being too critical of the lag. It's not so bad that it's keeping me from working on it (with the exception of using split screen between lecture notes and the default browser.
Besides for this tablet it's all about the s pen. if it wasn't for that i wouldn't have bothered with a tablet at all. I think smart phones are good for when you're on the move and if i'm going to sit down to watch a movie or do some gaming... well that's what i've got my laptop for. I don't live in a big city with good public transportation, but i could easily see myself just using my phone to watch a movie on a train or bus. I wouldn't bring out a tablet for that even if I owned one.
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Seems a lot of us sometimes forget the TRUE bottleneck of Android: The byte code Dalvik layer. This type of coding is not exactly multithread friendly and IMO seems amazing as good as the current passive cooled chipsets can do what they already do. Case in point, I never would have thought back in the G1 days emulators would be as efficient (MAME, PSX, PSP, N64). Then again, those apps are designed to not be multi-tasked.
IMO the issue is not as much the hardware or OE rom, but the platform itself as far as having global impact to software. iOS is not much better and ALSO lags. Such is the price of balance: Platform security (iOS andDalvik constraints), passive cooled devices, battery efficiency, etc.

Pros: Beautiful screen
feel and weight in your hand (compared to the previous version - which wasn't bad either)
S-Pen is less laggy and the finer screen allows for more precise writing/drawing
Cons: S-Note. I want the old version back.
Physical buttons. I really miss the natural "awareness" of where they are as compared to the old one where they were always at the
bottom of the screen.
Battery life isn't as nice as the first (alot more pixels to push I guess)
Lack of accessories (I'd really like a case)
Lack of root. I REALLY miss the 'add anything' multiwindow support'
I've waited a long time for a note 10.1 with this resolution but I'm considering returning it

I returned mine to BB. For a high end device and the associated high price I didn't find the performance acceptable. Hoping for this or that doesn't cut it for me. If it doesn't perform up to expectations out of the box, it goes back. I'll keep using my better performing Nexus 10 until version 2 of that device comes out.
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Count me among the disappointed... I got mine on launch day, and it's slower than last year's note 10.1.
New S Note is inexplicable.
Occasionally it hangs up and is unresponsive for at least a minute. (Happened in my beloved Lecturenotes as well as others)
Try this for a demo of the lag, I use LectureNotes with double tap zoom mode... open a note, double tap to enable zooming, pinch to zoom to 200%. Now double tap again to zoom back to 100% and watch it stutter. You can keep double tapping to switch between 100% and 200% and see the terrible lag. Do the same on last year's note 10.1 to compare.
It's not good enough. I expected this to be an upgrade!
I love the display, I love the more compact form factor, and I'll get used to the new buttons eventually.
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Count me among the disappointed... I got mine on launch day, and it's slower than last year's note 10.1.
New S Note is inexplicable.
Occasionally it hangs up and is unresponsive for at least a minute. (Happened in my beloved Lecturenotes as well as others)
Try this for a demo of the lag, I use LectureNotes with double tap zoom mode... open a note, double tap to enable zooming, pinch to zoom to 200%. Now double tap again to zoom back to 100% and watch it stutter. You can keep double tapping to switch between 100% and 200% and see the terrible lag. Do the same on last year's note 10.1 to compare.
It's not good enough. I expected this to be an upgrade!
I love the display, I love the more compact form factor, and I'll get used to the new buttons eventually.
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Key words: launch day. I know it's ****ty that a new device gets rolled out with imperfect software, but that's what this is. An update or two and this will be perfect. The 10.1, by the time we all upgraded, had a lot of updates to it that ironed out its issues.

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Key words: launch day. I know it's ****ty that a new device gets rolled out with imperfect software, but that's what this is. An update or two and this will be perfect. The 10.1, by the time we all upgraded, had a lot of updates to it that ironed out its issues.
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You're probably right, but it's shameful that the new note is slower than the old one, launch day or not.
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You're probably right, but it's shameful that the new note is slower than the old one, launch day or not.
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There's a few culprits here.
1) Software just plain isn't optimized for all the cores. Think about the tech advances from the old G1 to now. Are our devices now as much faster, proportionally speaking, as they are more powerful? Not by a long shot.
2) Was the launch day 10.1 2012 faster? I don't think. But that goes back to what I said earlier.
3) I feel like the new OS is just bloated as all hell. The device isn't slower, the burly Touchwiz is. It's like getting a brand new laptop and it takes longer to start: the PC isn't the problem, it's the new Windows.

So laggy!

I played with a tab pro 8.4 at Best Buy today for about 20 minutes because I was wondering if it could replace both my nexus 10 and my nexus 7 (2013). I think I changed my mind, given the sheer amount of lag I saw on any type of scrolling whatsoever. Changing home screens, flipping through the app drawer, scrolling in chrome, you name it. It was like using a device from 2010.
Boo on you, Samsung! Now I gotta shop some more.

Chrome works great for me. I haven't seen any delays in switching apps or opening magazine or multi window.
Then again, I have a clean install with a bunch of unused stuff disabled.

Don't go by the store demo. It's been discussed here before. The units in the store are running in an awful demo mode. It's very laggy and a terrible representation. I have the 8.4 and got rid of a Nexus 7 and an LG G Tab 8.3 and couldn't be happier.

I currently have the 2013 nexus 7 and have owned a nexus 10 both with custom roms and the stock 8.4 is faster then both, as mentioned you shouldn't base your opinion on a demo tablet
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Don't go by the store demo. It's been discussed here before. The units in the store are running in an awful demo mode. It's very laggy and a terrible representation.
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Well that's stupid. Why would they do that? It's got to hurt sales.

I doubt it matters. Most informed buyers buy based on reputable reviews from known sites.
People that buy based on playing with it in the store for a few minutes are either impulse buyers or are being sold by the salesguy.
That's the type of buyer that wouldn't know the performance difference either way...

Yeah I played with the 12.2, saw it lag numerous times and I love samsung products. I figured it was the demo software.
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I purchased an 8.4 and I can confirm that there is alot of lag throughout the os.
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I never had any lag on my 8.4 with the stock OS. Now that I'm running crpalmer's CM 11, I can't remember what lag is.
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I purchased an 8.4 and I can confirm that there is alot of lag throughout the os.
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Have you encountered any lag or skipping frames while watching HD videos using Mx player ?
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Have you encountered any lag or skipping frames while watching HD videos using Mx player ?
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I haven't and I watch fairly large sized mkv files as well as smaller avi and mp4 files. I've watched about 15 hours of video on it since getting in hand. Not a single hiccup.

I'm not sure I understand what people complain about with lag. If I'm running Touchwiz and scroll or use magazine/flip board UI I see a slight hesitation. It's there if I choose to nitpick but it doesn't bother me as it doesn't affect anything from a usage standpoint. God forbid the home button when pressed has a millisecond delay before going back to the home screen. Not trying to be an a** but I honestly think the people complaining would fine something else to complain about even if things were instantaneous.
The things I care about like the Internet or email or games and movies have no problem or lag at all. I came from the Nexus 7 and G Pad and couldn't be happier.

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I'm not sure I understand what people complain about with lag. If I'm running Touchwiz and scroll or use magazine/flip board UI I see a slight hesitation. It's there if I choose to nitpick but it doesn't bother me as it doesn't affect anything from a usage standpoint. God forbid the home button when pressed has a millisecond delay before going back to the home screen. Not trying to be an a** but I honestly think the people complaining would fine something else to complain about even if things were instantaneous.
The things I care about like the Internet or email or games and movies have no problem or lag at all. I came from the Nexus 7 and G Pad and couldn't be happier.
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I second that. I care about how apps run, not how much time it takes to switch between them...
For me it is much faster than my prior G Pad and a better battery life (and much better screen!).
Thrilled with the 8.4

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I'm not sure I understand what people complain about with lag. If I'm running Touchwiz and scroll or use magazine/flip board UI I see a slight hesitation. It's there if I choose to nitpick but it doesn't bother me as it doesn't affect anything from a usage standpoint. God forbid the home button when pressed has a millisecond delay before going back to the home screen. Not trying to be an a** but I honestly think the people complaining would fine something else to complain about even if things were instantaneous.
The things I care about like the Internet or email or games and movies have no problem or lag at all. I came from the Nexus 7 and G Pad and couldn't be happier.
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We're not talking about the time it takes to open apps. We're talking about screen hitches and stutters. Maybe you've just never used a smooth device before so you don't know any better.

Caelrie said:
We're not talking about the time it takes to open apps. We're talking about screen hitches and stutters. Maybe you've just never used a smooth device before so you don't know any better.
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I've owned about 20 different tablets (Happy to post pics of them if you like). I can tell when a device lags during application use (video playback for example).
I haven't seen an instance of it yet with the 8.4. I've had tablets with terrible lag (The first Asus Transformer for example).

Caelrie said:
We're not talking about the time it takes to open apps. We're talking about screen hitches and stutters. Maybe you've just never used a smooth device before so you don't know any better.
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So the Nexus 7 isn't smooth? Trust me I've had enough devices to understand the difference, and I clearly said in my post there is a slight bit of hesitation or stutter, but that it doesn't bother me. It's ever so slight. I'm saying I don't understand how this affects usage for people. Would I like it to be buttery smooth? Sure, but I can't complain as once in in an app, which is where 99 plus percent of my time is spent I don't see anything. It doesn't do it when gaming or watching movies or even surfing the Web. Most users wouldn't even notice it.
I am loving the device. I switched to Nova launcher and any stutter swiping is gone.

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So the Nexus 7 isn't smooth? Trust me I've had enough devices to understand the difference, and I clearly said in my post there is a slight bit of hesitation or stutter, but that it doesn't bother me. It's ever so slight. I'm saying I don't understand how this affects usage for people. Would I like it to be buttery smooth? Sure, but I can't complain as once in in an app, which is where 99 plus percent of my time is spent I don't see anything. It doesn't do it when gaming or watching movies or even surfing the Web. Most users wouldn't even notice it.
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I was mostly being snarky because the "you people would just find something to complain about even if it were perfect" line irked me. It's such a copout fanboy thing to say. Leave that crap on the Apple forums, where you're supposed to believe your device was handed down to you by God. Every device has something wrong with it. My nexus 7 is plagued with touch errors that I HOPE I've finally fixed with a custom flash.
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I am loving the device. I switched to Nova launcher and any stutter swiping is gone.
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What do you lose by going to Nova?

Caelrie said:
I was mostly being snarky because the "you people would just find something to complain about even if it were perfect" line irked me. It's such a copout fanboy thing to say. Leave that crap on the Apple forums, where you're supposed to believe your device was handed down to you by God. Every device has something wrong with it. My nexus 7 is plagued with touch errors that I HOPE I've finally fixed with a custom flash.
What do you lose by going to Nova?
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I've got it and it's not a fan boy thing as I'm not a Samsung fan normally. My intention wasn't to be an a**hole but I know it comes across that way. I'm glad you said no device is prefect and I completely agree with that. They all have something. And while my Nexus 7 was silky smooth with custom ROME and kernels, my first had many touch issues while the second was better but still there. Just the awful UI. I'm sure there is something more, but I haven't found it or just didn't need it to begin with. I'm very pleased with it

I am coming from a nexus 10 which I loved........ until my son did a cheetah flip and crushed the screen. I think my tab pro 8.4 is on par with my nexus. The screen is as good or better IMO. Video playback with MX player is perfectly smooth. Yes, every now and then there is a little stutter when switching screens. I've noticed that it is almost always when I go to or from the magazine ux screen.
I loved to bare bones UI of my nexus 10 but what can I say, I like all the options and eye candy of the Samsung tainted UI. I'm sure root and getting rid of a bunch of junk would probably help out quite a bit. I know it made a difference on my nexus.

How is web browsing lag? What frustrates me the most on my current tab (transformer infinity) is lots of lag in browsing in chrome... switching tabs sometimes pauses for several seconds, scrolling in pages it sometimes becomes unresponsive for seconds or will turn gray for a few seconds while it renders the next section.
For inexpensive tabs that is probably acceptable, but if I'm paying a premium I would expect a completely smooth experience. Can anyone comment on that?