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Samsung KNOX - a warning for the leaked 4.3 roms...

Just been through training for KNOX at work - and without blowing my NDA's - i'll pass on this for you all
If you EVER want to use KNOX - and you run one of the leaked 4.3 roms - NEVER NEVER NEVER flash any custom binaries to the phone again - you can only EVER run an offical untouched rom.
If you ARE running a 4.3 rom - reboot your phone into odin mode and see if you have a KNOX warrenty bit set to 0x0.
if you do - and you EVER want to use KNOX (and after training - im going to be using it meself) - you now can not roll back - or install a custom kernel or pretty much anything apart from further factory roms.
If you install anything else - the KNOX and TIMA systems will blow a fuse on the motherboard of your note2 and you will get flagged with KNOX warrenty bit 0x1.
This is not reversable - ever - without a board replacment.
The only effect will be that you cannot ever run KNOX after this - private or enterprise versions.
The first leaked 4.3 rom didnt have this enabled - the second one did (UEMJ5).
This is enforced in the bootloaders - once you get it - you cant go back.
If you dont care about KNOX - go hard However if your are going to use a BYOD type setup at your work and they want to enforce KNOX and youve blown the fuse in the motherboard - to be blunt - you are screwed Its not reversable sorry.
If you dont know what KNOX is actually about (if youve read "Little Brother" by Cory Doctorow think phone inside a phone type things) check out https://support.samsungknox.com/home and have a chew through it - there are some very good parts to it....
In any case - if you dont care about KNOX - go hard - nothing has changed.
If you DO care about KNOX - your not going to be able to change the firmware on your phone at all ever - if you do you will lose permanently the ability to run KNOX.
if you want to use your phone for work and work wants KNOX and your a custom rom person - your ****outaluck =)
And KNOX is not just the apk's..... its the entire stack from bootloaders upwards....
have fun peoples

I didn't think the Note 2 has the eFuse on its motherboard?

I'm running Hurricane ROM and it hasn't got any KNOX and the new bootloader stuff. I think this problem is with the "original" (leaked) 4.3 ROM

On the one hand I object to this kind of control by Samsung, it's my phone and I resent them wanting to control it.
On the other, I understand that many businesses don't want their staff using their network connections or accessing their data without protection and separation.
I do my best to not use my phone at all for my employers's business, but if they wanted me to and told me knox was obligatory then I would tell them they would have to provide a mobile device for me to use as I would tell them I could/wouldn't be able to promise that I wouldn't lose knox due to custom roms.

FloatingFatMan said:
I didn't think the Note 2 has the eFuse on its motherboard?
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Backporting and using a fuse that hasnt been exposed or used previously - apparently there are unused fuses in the system there
in reply to Chris189 "I'm running Hurricane ROM and it hasn't got any KNOX and the new bootloader stuff. I think this problem is with the "original" (leaked) 4.3 ROM "
the original didnt give me the fuse setting - the new rom did give me the fuse setting
im curious to find out if a samsung signed rom with knox disabled will allow a rollback offically - but i dont think your going to get any leaking like that.
And from 2k14 going forward - all samsung devices will be running this
also take note of the "SELinux" permissive / enforced state..... enforced may break some apps....
anyways - back to work - "hoo...ray"
have fun peoples

Will root on stock rom and stock bootloader invalidate KNOX?
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emgluon said:
Will root on stock rom and stock bootloader invalidate KNOX?
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From what the Samsung trainers were saying - once KNOX is on there and has that KNOX warrenty bit available (can be seen from odin mode on the phone - power , vol down and home when booting) a rollback will blow the fuse even to a factory rom - not really willing to try it on my note 2 to confirm sorry

Should have said... any idea of rooting 4.3 by whatever method invalidate this KNOX thing.
Had a feeling that most rooting involve flashing at least a insecure bootloader for it to work?
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Bull ****

here the solution by dr ketan..do not worry mate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500823

cbdrift said:
...If you EVER want to use KNOX - and you run one of the leaked 4.3 roms - NEVER NEVER NEVER flash any custom binaries to the phone again - you can only EVER run an offical untouched rom...
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Not applicable to Note2. This isn't the S4/Note3.
K thx

I don't know why Samsung implemented this stupid thing for Note2, maybe we can have 4.3 month earlier without this totally uselles ****, or have 4.3 with useful Note 3 things....do anyone know which manager decided about this ****?
Thx Jiri

note2 n7100 india running on 4.3 N7100XXUEMJ5
sora9009 said:
here the solution by dr ketan..do not worry mate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500823
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yes i tried it. it worked well for me.but wen i tried to go back to 4.1.2 i had no network and cudnt make calls from my phone.i flashed 4.3 N7100XXUEMJ5 back and its working well for now.anyone else had such problem? any solutoins?

vickyvc said:
yes i tried it. it worked well for me.but wen i tried to go back to 4.1.2 i had no network and cudnt make calls from my phone.i flashed 4.3 N7100XXUEMJ5 back and its working well for now.anyone else had such problem? any solutoins?
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Did you have your IMEI when you flashed back? May have needed to restore your EFS? Or reflash the original modem?

To put the Knox worries aside, I did the following test.
Install newest leak (MJ5) bootloader (with knox). Warranty bit was 0.
Installed MI6 and installed knox which worked. Warranty bit was 0.
Flashed CWM recovery from Odin, suprisingly knox was still working. Warranty bit was still 0. Binary flash counter increased
Restored CM10.2 Nandroid backup. Warranty bit was still 0
So it seems that with the MJ5 bootloader, no knox fuse is being blown and you are able to rollback to a previous version without issues (if you have backed up EFS when you want to go back from 4.3 -> 4.1).

official font?

note 2 running on 4.3 N7100XXUEMJ5
Bert.C said:
Did you have your IMEI when you flashed back? May have needed to restore your EFS? Or reflash the original modem?
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wen i went to 4.1.2 my IMEI was 004999010640000 and wen i flashed back to 4.3 N7100XXUEMJ5 it restored my original IMEI.
thanks for replying so fast........

FloatingFatMan said:
I didn't think the Note 2 has the eFuse on its motherboard?
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The efuse thingy is complete bullcrap ( even on S4 or N3 ) :silly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504258
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vickyvc said:
yes i tried it. it worked well for me.but wen i tried to go back to 4.1.2 i had no network and cudnt make calls from my phone.i flashed 4.3 N7100XXUEMJ5 back and its working well for now.anyone else had such problem? any solutoins?
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if u want to go back to 4.1.2 u need newer builds which have the new EFS changes ( older builds will show fake IMEI if u don't have backup from the old EFS )

Mj5 bootloader can easily be downgraded to the previous bootloader without any issues
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srfairhurst said:
Bull ****
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So it sounds as if this thread is inaccurate. Is it complete bs or are precautions actually needed for Note 2 users?
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downgrade confirmation

hello guys
I have a sm-n900.....it came upgraded to kitkat in the box
although the performance of the phone is mind blowing but I feel it is a battery draimer......and also I read reviews on net that people with jellybean used to have their battery last more than one day with usual udage but in my case it is only upto 16-17 hrs
I thought of downgrading to jellybean and went to service cemtre where they told me that downgrading in not possible in note 3
I then searched at home and found it is bit complicated and if we do we may loose update to kitkat if we want afterwards
like in my earlier s2 (i9100) and note (n7000) I could flash any firmware anytime
but wat to do downgrade this to jellybean without loosing the possibilities of update to kitkat

plz someone
I know people are here having far big issues compared to mine
but I would be really happy is someone would guide me through this

anikanu said:
hello guys
I have a sm-n900.....it came upgraded to kitkat in the box
although the performance of the phone is mind blowing but I feel it is a battery draimer......and also I read reviews on net that people with jellybean used to have their battery last more than one day with usual udage but in my case it is only upto 16-17 hrs
I thought of downgrading to jellybean and went to service cemtre where they told me that downgrading in not possible in note 3
I then searched at home and found it is bit complicated and if we do we may loose update to kitkat if we want afterwards
like in my earlier s2 (i9100) and note (n7000) I could flash any firmware anytime
but wat to do downgrade this to jellybean without loosing the possibilities of update to kitkat
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you cant downgrade at all
just not going to happen sorry bud

anikanu said:
plz someone
I know people are here having far big issues compared to mine
but I would be really happy is someone would guide me through this
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The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.

donalgodon said:
The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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mate do you math its 58 billion times a day lol :silly:

jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade at all
just not going to happen sorry bud
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donalgodon said:
The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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jaythenut said:
mate do you math its 58 billion times a day lol :silly:
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so can I root the phone and move to some other custom kernel based rom and then flash jellybean via odin
wat wud happen if I do it using odin.....will it hardbrick or some apps wont work.....plz tell...I know its annoying but plz

anikanu said:
so can I root the phone and move to some other custom kernel based rom and then flash jellybean via odin
wat wud happen if I do it using odin.....will it hardbrick or some apps wont work.....plz tell...I know its annoying but plz
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Forget jelly beans you can never go back all it will do is Bootloop

donalgodon said:
The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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and I see that u r using same ohone rooted
whuch method did y follow and also is der any prob in handling og the phone after rooting
and can u go back to stock unrooted again to restorr warranty and reset binary counter

jaythenut said:
Forget jelly beans you can never go back all it will do is Bootloop
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u mean I cant even go to cm10.2 too

anikanu said:
u mean I cant even go to cm10.2 too
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No, you can't

anikanu said:
and I see that u r using same ohone rooted
whuch method did y follow and also is der any prob in handling og the phone after rooting
and can u go back to stock unrooted again to restorr warranty and reset binary counter
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I rooted via CF-AutoRoot (as my signature indicates below) and there were no problems. For me, KitKat is working perfectly in every respect.
No, you cannot reset the Knox binary trigger. I could not possibly care any less about it at this point in time.
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?

donalgodon said:
I rooted via CF-AutoRoot (as my signature indicates below) and there were no problems. For me, KitKat is working perfectly in every respect.
No, you cannot reset the Knox binary trigger. I could not possibly care any less about it at this point in time.
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?
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so now if u visit samsung
what page the officials would open in order to see ur knox counter

Pierre118 said:
No, you can't
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how r u having knox still 0 even after rooting

anikanu said:
how r u having knox still 0 even after rooting
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You need to do some searching on the site. All these questions have answers that have been gone over and over.
Early 4.3 users could root their phone but Knox gets tripped. RDLV method worked then without tripping Knox up till MJ3 of 4.3. Anything above that as stock and Knox gets tripped. KitKat goes one step further in that you cannot revert to 4.3 at all, even if you are willing to trip Knox.
You can root the phone but AFAIK (I haven't bothered with KK - my phone runs brilliantly on v6 (4.3) Omega) you trip Knox anyway you do it.
Knox 0x1 may or may not doom your warranty - somecountries have laws that say Samsung cannot quirm out of hardware problems by claiming software changes. You may or may not care about Knox. Mine is a grey import from HK that I had all kinds of fun getting over to a non-freaky ROM, so when it eventually triggered Knox I didn't give a toss. I did root the phone with RDLV and changed ROMs several times before something that shouldn't have, tripped the Knox bit.
Now there is about as brief a history as you will get. Use what is in it to go search and find any more complete answers.
Always search before asking basic questions - at the least it means you will be able to ask intelligent questions, not ones you can find by looking at the titles of recent posts in Q&A forums.

anikanu said:
so now if u visit samsung
what page the officials would open in order to see ur knox counter
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They'd just boot to Download mode and see the Knox flag.
I don't care about it, honestly. If I ever need warranty assistance, I'd just hope for the best, but since it's Samsung, I'd expect the worst.

Journyman16 said:
You need to do some searching on the site. All these questions have answers that have been gone over and over.
Early 4.3 users could root their phone but Knox gets tripped. RDLV method worked then without tripping Knox up till MJ3 of 4.3. Anything above that as stock and Knox gets tripped. KitKat goes one step further in that you cannot revert to 4.3 at all, even if you are willing to trip Knox.
You can root the phone but AFAIK (I haven't bothered with KK - my phone runs brilliantly on v6 (4.3) Omega) you trip Knox anyway you do it.
Knox 0x1 may or may not doom your warranty - somecountries have laws that say Samsung cannot quirm out of hardware problems by claiming software changes. You may or may not care about Knox. Mine is a grey import from HK that I had all kinds of fun getting over to a non-freaky ROM, so when it eventually triggered Knox I didn't give a toss. I did root the phone with RDLV and changed ROMs several times before something that shouldn't have, tripped the Knox bit.
Now there is about as brief a history as you will get. Use what is in it to go search and find any more complete answers.
Always search before asking basic questions - at the least it means you will be able to ask intelligent questions, not ones you can find by looking at the titles of recent posts in Q&A forums.
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donalgodon said:
They'd just boot to Download mode and see the Knox flag.
I don't care about it, honestly. If I ever need warranty assistance, I'd just hope for the best, but since it's Samsung, I'd expect the worst.
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I may be annoying u guys
but what I understand from till now is dat I wont get the privileges of the phone as I used to get in xperia live and sgs2 and maybe what I will use be the stock rom
btw I have still not downloaded the app data of knox which is of 170mb.....wat do u guys suggest should I do it or let it be
and 1 last question that is der any way to have mass storage mode.....as in mtp we dont see the files and folders starting with (.) and I have many imp stuffs on my sd which have their starting with a . and u all know that in mtp we dont see such files and folders.....so is der any way to have the mass storage mode back
plz answer......I know I annoyed a lot.....but plz

You should be able to use another mode. When you connect via USB, swipe down the Notification bar and there should be a Notify there you can tap to choose other modes.
You might need to go into Build Number (Settings/About Phone) and tap 7 times to turn on Developer mode and then turn on USB Debug. (not sure as that's always one of the first things I do)
Unless you are the only person on the planet who sees a need for Knox, you don't need to DL anything to do with Knox. Check in Application Manager and see if you can turn all of it off.

Journyman16 said:
You should be able to use another mode. When you connect via USB, swipe down the Notification bar and there should be a Notify there you can tap to choose other modes.
You might need to go into Build Number (Settings/About Phone) and tap 7 times to turn on Developer mode and then turn on USB Debug. (not sure as that's always one of the first things I do)
Unless you are the only person on the planet who sees a need for Knox, you don't need to DL anything to do with Knox. Check in Application Manager and see if you can turn all of it off.
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I also have enabled developer options due to my habit of doing in cm roms in previous phones
but on usb connection there are only 2 modes
media transfer protocol
camera protocol
mass storage is missing

donalgodon said:
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?
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Interesting question. Do you find you can easily sell your rooted/modified phones?
I'm always concerned that people won't want to buy a rooted phone that's potentially been flashed 100+ times with possible excessive CPU over-clocking etc. I always try to put the phone back to stock (or as close as possible) before I sell it on.
Is it just me who feels those concerns?

Medical HRH said:
Interesting question. Do you find you can easily sell your rooted/modified phones?
I'm always concerned that people won't want to buy a rooted phone that's potentially been flashed 100+ times with possible excessive CPU over-clocking etc. I always try to put the phone back to stock (or as close as possible) before I sell it on.
Is it just me who feels those concerns?
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Well, in my region, the vast majority of buyers don't even know what root is, so it's never been an issue for me. I don't expect that to change anytime soon. The Note 3 doesn't show any issues at all when reflashed unless Knox flag is tripped. Even then, the only "issue" is the warranty bit flag shown in Download mode and the loss of Knox container, which almost nobody uses. Out of a 100 buyers, you might find one that knows what root is and less than that who know how to get to Download mode, and even fewer who'd potentially use Knox, so no, not a problem.

I9500 Downgrade stuck for no reason

hello have this phone since it came out never did any root or nothing
because of the shown problem i think it may be a carrier(movistar) thing
i dont know.
Any help its appreciated
the problem shown for clearer understanding:
(you know the youtebe thing) /watch?v=yO5h072_dzg
PS: thanks for any help

didierdalz said:
hello have this phone since it came out never did any root or nothing
because of the shown problem i think it may be a carrier(movistar) thing
i dont know.
Any help its appreciated
the problem shown for clearer understanding:
(you know the youtebe thing) /watch?v=yO5h072_dzg
PS: thanks for any help
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that happen after you make Downgrade ?

EgyMan said:
that happen after you make Downgrade ?
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as i said "i have this phone since it came out never did any root or nothing
because of the shown problem"
i never was able to do anything root or downgrade related stuff. I have all stock firmware. never was able to past that screen

didierdalz said:
as i said "i have this phone since it came out never did any root or nothing
because of the shown problem"
i never was able to do anything root or downgrade related stuff. I have all stock firmware. never was able to past that screen
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try use mobile odin ?

Downgrade the latest Samsung devices is the MOST STUPID THING you can do in your life. Maybe 2 or 3 persons dont agree with me but the rest for sure yes. If ODIN let u downgrade becomes the problems with wifi, data, random reboots, warranty void, battery drains... And you downgrade coz ur phone was bad with the new android version? Come on! :laugh:

Joku1981 said:
Downgrade the latest Samsung devices is the MOST STUPID THING you can do in your life. Maybe 2 or 3 persons dont agree with me but the rest for sure yes. If ODIN let u downgrade becomes the problems with wifi, data, random reboots, warranty void, battery drains... And you downgrade coz ur phone was bad with the new android version? Come on! :laugh:
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dude wtf i have to go in that mode if i want to root "Come on! :laugh"

EgyMan said:
try use mobile odin ?
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you must be rooted and i cant as i said before

[Q] i9505 Almost Dead

Hi all
I bought a new samsung S4 i9505 ---without guaranty---
2 days ago the device started restarting and the sound goes dead and there can't be anything to make the device produce any sound neither from the front speaker nor from the main speaker nor even the headphones !!
I did a hard reset and voila -or i thought so- the device finally worked fine completely , until after about an hour when it started freaking out and not responding and the sound went dead again , restarting the device only sent it to a boot loop !
Finally today i installed a complete system using ODIN and it worked fine again for only an hour and then it went to the boot loop
I plugged the phone to the charger and powered it on and it worked smoothly but with no sound at all again :X
So can any guy help me sort this problem out please
Thanks in advance

you mean you bought a used samsung s4 with no warranty? and this is a wrong thread. it should be moved to q&a forum

No , it is new just without warranty
ryanperez said:
you mean you bought a used samsung s4 with no warranty? and this is a wrong thread. it should be moved to q&a forum
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raoufn1984 said:
No , it is new just without warranty
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Stores usually offer warranty.
So there's something odd at the middle.
Maybe you bought it from some dealer on the street..and those usually never sell you anything good.

Well the store did give me a warranty but only for software issues , and he said this must be a hardware issue.
So is this true ?
GDReaper said:
Stores usually offer warranty.
So there's something odd at the middle.
Maybe you bought it from some dealer on the street..and those usually never sell you anything good.
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raoufn1984 said:
Well the store did give me a warranty but only for software issues , and he said this must be a hardware issue.
So is this true ?
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When did you buy it actually buy it?

I am in turkey , and i bought it from a small mobile shop
Anyway , is there a way to fix it ?
GDReaper said:
When did you buy it actually buy it?
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flash with odin using pit file

raoufn1984 said:
I am in turkey , and i bought it from a small mobile shop
Anyway , is there a way to fix it ?
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I asked WHEN, not WHERE.
When is time related. Where is location related.
Also, warranties usually are all-rounders. Meaning they offer service to software and hardware related issues.
So why did they offer only software?
Anyway. If it is hardware related then there is nothing you can do, except to change the parts.

LOL
My bad , i read it like where , and was like what difference does it make where i got it , my mistake
anyway as i said it is not a big firm or anything like that is just a small shop only providing software warranties
and as i said in the first post i got it about a month ago
i will try flashing with pit file
thanks for the advice
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I asked WHEN, not WHERE.
When is time related. Where is location related.
Also, warranties usually are all-rounders. Meaning they offer service to software and hardware related issues.
So why did they offer only software?
Anyway. If it is hardware related then there is nothing you can do, except to change the parts.
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raoufn1984 said:
LOL
My bad , i read it like where , and was like what difference does it make where i got it , my mistake
anyway as i said it is not a big firm or anything like that is just a small shop only providing software warranties
and as i said in the first post i got it about a month ago
i will try flashing with pit file
thanks for the advice
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Didn't see that info
Anyway. What I am trying to say is that maybe they knew about the phone having issues and that's why they offered only software warranty (A bit paranoic, I know)

once the phone boots up try dialing *#0*# and let us know how that goes. This MAY be a kernel issue. happens when they probably have given you an S4 with a different model number, with a different firmware flashed. (sometimes i9505 vs. i9515 due to different chips) What is the model number shown in the download mode? i9505? And Knox Status?

The service tests all OK except both speaker tests
The download mode shows i9505
i don't know what this Knox is
TheAwesomeBit said:
once the phone boots up try dialing *#0*# and let us know how that goes. This MAY be a kernel issue. happens when they probably have given you an S4 with a different model number, with a different firmware flashed. (sometimes i9505 vs. i9515 due to different chips) What is the model number shown in the download mode? i9505? And Knox Status?
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raoufn1984 said:
The service tests all OK except both speaker tests
The download mode shows i9505
i don't know what this Knox is
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So your bootloader doesnt say anything about knox? What version of android are you running?

KNOX cernerl lock : 0x0
KNOX warranty void: 0x1
i was on latest jellybean , tried flashing it with odin and the problem didn't go away
tried lollipop and it is just the same
when i turn the phone on it gives the booting sound hangs about a min or tow boots up , sometimes doesn't even complete booting, sometimes the sound stays functional for a few mins then stops sometimes it instantly after the boot stops
could it be some minor issue like battery malfunction maybe ?
or is it a big issue ?
i don't want to take it to samsung and pay the fix if i can fix it my self because i am not good at turkish and they speak so little english that i will not be able to make them understand the problem
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So your bootloader doesnt say anything about knox? What version of android are you running?
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raoufn1984 said:
KNOX cernerl lock : 0x0
KNOX warranty void: 0x1
i was on latest jellybean , tried flashing it with odin and the problem didn't go away
tried lollipop and it is just the same
when i turn the phone on it gives the booting sound hangs about a min or tow boots up , sometimes doesn't even complete booting, sometimes the sound stays functional for a few mins then stops sometimes it instantly after the boot stops
could it be some minor issue like battery malfunction maybe ?
or is it a big issue ?
i don't want to take it to samsung and pay the fix if i can fix it my self because i am not good at turkish and they speak so little english that i will not be able to make them understand the problem
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did u try wiping and flashing a custom rom?

No , only using odin with original firmwares
TheAwesomeBit said:
did u try wiping and flashing a custom rom?
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raoufn1984 said:
No , only using odin with original firmwares
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try installing a custom rom. be sure to wipe and reset.

just tried a custom rom and had the same issue
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try installing a custom rom. be sure to wipe and reset.
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raoufn1984 said:
just tried a custom rom and had the same issue
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oh, then i have no idea bro. visit a service centre, and dont explain them much, just ask them to check the speaker. make sure to go with a stock rom

Knox Bootloader

Hello, just wondering since it's been a while, if anybody found a way to downgrade the Knox bootloader-enabled one to the one before? From 4.2 if I remember correctly? Thanks!

As far as I know, no.
I think people even stopped trying.

GDReaper said:
As far as I know, no.
I think people even stopped trying.
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That sucks, the S4 was a good device, before I had to send it in for repairs! They upgraded me to 4.4 with Knox, and now it's just awful, sadly. Oh well.

nar001 said:
That sucks, the S4 was a good device, before I had to send it in for repairs! They upgraded me to 4.4 with Knox, and now it's just awful, sadly. Oh well.
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Why? I got mine with Knox, but I don't see the big issue with it.
Anyway, you can always flash custom ROMs to get rid of Knox. Or root and delete Knox apps from your ROM.

GDReaper said:
Why? I got mine with Knox, but I don't see the big issue with it.
Anyway, you can always flash custom ROMs to get rid of Knox. Or root and delete Knox apps from your ROM.
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Yeah but that never gets rid of the 0x1 or messages about kernel when you boot!

nar001 said:
Yeah but that never gets rid of the 0x1 or messages about kernel when you boot!
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Is one extra line in the top corner during boot that bad?

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Is one extra line in the top corner during boot that bad?
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Well, Knox already made my device hang before, had to reboot twice or more to get it to boot to a ROM, and that just makes me sad, since it wasn't a bad phone when it came out