Hi.
I have a doubt. If I install a Stock ROM with Odin, will it increase the flash counter?
My S4 is less than a month old and I don't want to modify it yet. I want to keep the warranty by now.
Thanks in advance.
Bye!
Geraaaaa said:
Hi.
I have a doubt. If I install a Stock ROM with Odin, will it increase the flash counter?
My S4 is less than a month old and I don't want to modify it yet. I want to keep the warranty by now.
Thanks in advance.
Bye!
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yes it will, but all you need to do is get triangle away to remove flash count
It will? Even it's an official Samsung's ROM ???
I have the GT-I9500, Triangle Away don't support that model yet.
jaythenut said:
yes it will, but all you need to do is get triangle away to remove flash count
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It will? Even it's an official Samsung's ROM ???
I have the GT-I9500, Triangle Away don't support that model yet.
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I have rooted my S4 using CF-Auto-Root.
I'm not sure if the 4.3 upgrade is available at the moment or not, but if not it should be available soon.
Is there a way to revert the rooting so that the stock android would allow me to do the upgrade ?
Would that leave me unable to root it again, or CF-Auto-Root doesn't care whether i'm running 4.2.2 or 4.3
Thanks in advance
reubenbubu said:
I have rooted my S4 using CF-Auto-Root.
I'm not sure if the 4.3 upgrade is available at the moment or not, but if not it should be available soon.
Is there a way to revert the rooting so that the stock android would allow me to do the upgrade ?
Would that leave me unable to root it again, or CF-Auto-Root doesn't care whether i'm running 4.2.2 or 4.3
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
You should have asked before you did something that you were unsure of.
At the moment there is no way of getting completely back to stock if you customize your i9500.
The Triangle Away method of resetting your counter, does not currently work for the i9500.
So , you probably cannot return to complete stock in order to get the OTA , if and when it comes.
Your choice of ROMS is HERE
Does not look like much in the way of 4.3
reubenbubu said:
I have rooted my S4 using CF-Auto-Root.
I'm not sure if the 4.3 upgrade is available at the moment or not, but if not it should be available soon.
Is there a way to revert the rooting so that the stock android would allow me to do the upgrade ?
Would that leave me unable to root it again, or CF-Auto-Root doesn't care whether i'm running 4.2.2 or 4.3
Thanks in advance
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malybru said:
Hi,
You should have asked before you did something that you were unsure of.
At the moment there is no way of getting completely back to stock if you customize your i9500.
The Triangle Away method of resetting your counter, does not currently work for the i9500.
So , you probably cannot return to complete stock in order to get the OTA , if and when it comes.
Your choice of ROMS is HERE
Does not look like much in the way of 4.3
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Well i beg to differ with you Sir.
In I9500 the binary counter is hidden and that has nothing to do with OTA updates
To OP you can revert to Stock by downloading the latest STock rom and flash it via odin..
After you have flashed it VIa odin then you are pure stock and OTA updates would work like Charm
What you have done with CF-Root has only triggered the Binary counter and makes your phone out of warranty ( until the triangle away is available for i9500)
manu44 said:
Well i beg to differ with you Sir.
In I9500 the binary counter is hidden and that has nothing to do with OTA updates
To OP you can revert to Stock by downloading the latest STock rom and flash it via odin..
After you have flashed it VIa odin then you are pure stock and OTA updates would work like Charm
What you have done with CF-Root has only triggered the Binary counter and makes your phone out of warranty ( until the triangle away is available for i9500)
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Hi,
I am only reporting what other people have reported.
It may be that you are correct as well. :good:
I do not wish bad on anyone,but some have reported no OTA possible after they rooted.
I hope that I am wrong.
manu44 said:
Well i beg to differ with you Sir.
In I9500 the binary counter is hidden and that has nothing to do with OTA updates
To OP you can revert to Stock by downloading the latest STock rom and flash it via odin..
After you have flashed it VIa odin then you are pure stock and OTA updates would work like Charm
What you have done with CF-Root has only triggered the Binary counter and makes your phone out of warranty ( until the triangle away is available for i9500)
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Not completely true, Samsung has instructed service points to repair faulty devices under warranty even if they are rooted. This is however a ONE time courtesy, from the second time the owner has to pay to repair if the phone is rooted.
malybru said:
Hi,
I am only reporting what other people have reported.
It may be that you are correct as well. :good:
I do not wish bad on anyone,but some have reported no OTA possible after they rooted.
I hope that I am wrong.
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Thats okay buddy..
gee2012 said:
Not completely true, Samsung has instructed service points to repair faulty devices under warranty even if they are rooted. This is however a ONE time courtesy, from the second time the owner has to pay to repair if the phone is rooted.
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Ya, but i guess it depends on region to region..
Hello friends I have a i9500 Indian version and I want to root but worried about the counter has anyone been able to root and later was the service able to detect the counter please help
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hypergamer1231 said:
Hello friends I have a i9500 Indian version and I want to root but worried about the counter has anyone been able to root and later was the service able to detect the counter please help
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 2
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Yes, no way to reset the counter atm on the I9500 and it is visible for service personal.
gee2012 said:
Yes, no way to reset the counter atm on the I9500 and it is visible for service personal.
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Thanks a ton for the reply so did the svc center void the warranty and does this mean we will have to wait till chainfire or someone can find a way to make triangle away work on the I9500.....I kinda feel sad for the exynos variant isnt there any way to root the device without losing the warranty..
hypergamer1231 said:
Thanks a ton for the reply so did the svc center void the warranty and does this mean we will have to wait till chainfire or someone can find a way to make triangle away work on the I9500.....I kinda feel sad for the exynos variant isnt there any way to root the device without losing the warranty..
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Not that i know of, it is triggered when custom software is beeing installed with Odin.
gee2012 said:
Not that i know if, it is triggered when custom software is beeing installed by Odin.
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So what am trying to check here is if i install a custom recovery which obviously will be via odin and for some reason if i have to give the phone to the svc center and i flash back to the stock rom will i be able to cover it under warranty....
hypergamer1231 said:
So what am trying to check here is if i install a custom recovery which obviously will be via odin and for some reason if i have to give the phone to the svc center and i flash back to the stock rom will i be able to cover it under warranty....
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Your counter will still be raised and the status will still show modified, if they see that they may void warranty as it is not in original condition.
I am rooted. My counter is at 0. Link to stock rom with root is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
Flashing this via odin doesnt trip the counter.
hellboy13 said:
I am rooted. My counter is at 0. Link to stock rom with root is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
Flashing this via odin doesnt trip the counter.
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Yup, thats the only exception Unless you want/need custom recovery.
If i install official S4 I9500 4.3 jellybean firmware through ODIN , will it give knox 0x1 ?
just need a simple answer !
anybody can help ?
syedej123 said:
If i install official S4 I9500 4.3 jellybean firmware through ODIN , will it give knox 0x1 ?
just need a simple answer !
anybody can help ?
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I just wanted to ask the exact same question...
But in my case it's for the I9505.
I still have the XXUBMGA Official Stock Rom with root. No KNOX bootloader, no custom rom.
I do, however want the latest Jellybean but I don't like that KNOX thing.
syedej123 said:
If i install official S4 I9500 4.3 jellybean firmware through ODIN , will it give knox 0x1 ?
just need a simple answer !
anybody can help ?
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I would stay away from the official firmware. Read the Knox Q&A for more answers.
dinci5 said:
I just wanted to ask the exact same question...
But in my case it's for the I9505.
I still have the XXUBMGA Official Stock Rom with root. No KNOX bootloader, no custom rom.
I do, however want the latest Jellybean but I don't like that KNOX thing.
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Same goes for you, stay away from official firmwares and just wait for a custom rom with 4.3.
Lennyz1988 said:
I would stay away from the official firmware. Read the Knox Q&A for more answers.
Same goes for you, stay away from official firmwares and just wait for a custom rom with 4.3.
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Thank you !
Lennyz1988 said:
I would stay away from the official firmware. Read the Knox Q&A for more answers.
Same goes for you, stay away from official firmwares and just wait for a custom rom with 4.3.
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Thank you...
So you saying that the costum roms don't have the KNOX bootloader?
Honestly, I didn't really follow up on everything regarding KNOX as I don't have that much time anymore (work, wife, children).
I see that there is a new Omega rom based on the latest firmware. Perhaps I should check that one out.
Now I'm going to do some more research regarding this.
Thanks again for your time.
dinci5 said:
Thank you...
So you saying that the costum roms don't have the KNOX bootloader?
Honestly, I didn't really follow up on everything regarding KNOX as I don't have that much time anymore (work, wife, children).
I see that there is a new Omega rom based on the latest firmware. Perhaps I should check that one out.
Now I'm going to do some more research regarding this.
Thanks again for your time.
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Only the official firmwares have the bootloader. Just stay away from official firmwares if you want to root/flash different roms and you will be fine.
But it can never hurt to read more about Knox
Hi
I need to return my S4 to Samsung for a warranty repair. I can't find my original nand back up. I need a link to uk stock roms please to flash in odin I do believe. And stock recovery. If this is done will it be back to stock and no counter?? I've not updated bootloader so no Knox counter.
Also will this make it Kies update able again???
Cheers People
Robbo
Robbo106 said:
Hi
I need to return my S4 to Samsung for a warranty repair. I can't find my original nand back up. I need a link to uk stock roms please to flash in odin I do believe. And stock recovery. If this is done will it be back to stock and no counter?? I've not updated bootloader so no Knox counter.
Also will this make it Kies update able again???
Cheers People
Robbo
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Hello mate, If you did not updated your phone on 4.3 samsung stock firmware then please feel free to download the 4.2.2 from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ and flash it via odin by selecting PDA . then send it back have a nice day.
Hi
Thanks for the reply but it just takes me to the home page of sammobile. And what do you mena by send it back?? Thanks??
Do these firmwares also flash stock recovery??
Cheers Robbo
Repulsa said:
Hello mate, If you did not updated your phone on 4.3 samsung stock firmware then please feel free to download the 4.2.2 from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ and flash it via odin by selecting PDA . then send it back have a nice day.
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Robbo106 said:
Hi
Thanks for the reply but it just takes me to the home page of sammobile. And what do you mena by send it back?? Thanks??
Do these firmwares also flash stock recovery??
Cheers Robbo
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Hello again , you need to sign up sir in order to check it out then click the Link that i gave you and download the stock rom that you need , once you flash this stock rom from samsung, you should good to go to send it for warranty/repair. more to say just like the first time you bought your phone. have a nice day.
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Hello again , you need to sign up sir in order to check it out then click the Link that i gave you and download the stock rom that you need , once you flash this stock rom from samsung, you should good to go to send it for warranty/repair. more to say just like the first time you bought your phone. have a nice day.
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Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo
Robbo106 said:
Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo
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Let me makes things clear for you mate , right now i have an old bootloader (No Knox warranty void, when i go to download mode) means i can flash any 4.2.2 firmware without having any knox void warranty. this is what i do i flash a pre-rooted rom then use a triangle away to reset the binary and use Phil recovery and flash any 4.3 custom rom i want! but if you need to send your phone to samsung because there's a hardware problem , feel free to flash a 4.2 from you country.(Since more likely after they fix your phone they will prolly update it to 4.3) remember flashing a 4.3 mk9 stock rom means a new bootloader/Knox void warranty 0x0 willl be activate.So if you flash root/custom rom that should void your warranty to 0x1 Please feel free to check more about Knox from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
Robbo106 said:
Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo
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1- Ur phone is unbranded? MK9 use android 4.3. I will tell ya the correct firmware for u if u are lil confused
2- If u root it u will void ur warranty. Ur knox will be 0x1
Repulsa said:
Let me makes things clear for you mate , right now i have an old bootloader (No Knox warranty void, when i go to download mode) means i can flash any 4.2.2 firmware without having any knox void warranty. this is what i do i flash a pre-rooted rom then use a triangle away to reset the binary and use Phil recovery and flash any 4.3 custom rom i want! but if you need to send your phone to samsung because there's a hardware problem , feel free to flash a 4.2 from you country.(Since more likely after they fix your phone they will prolly update it to 4.3) remember flashing a 4.3 mk9 stock rom means a new bootloader/Knox void warranty 0x0 willl be activate.So if you flash root/custom rom that should void your warranty to 0x1 Please feel free to check more about Knox from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
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Yes I understood that. I'm in the same situation as you as in the way I flash ROMS. I didn't realise that the counter still worked even if it was an official update with bootloader, just thought if I flashed a custom rom with new bootloader it started the Knox warranty void.
Thanks for all your help. I'm gutted now though coz your right Samsung probably update my phone and then I'm b****ed anyway if I root again and custom rom it. Your link doen't take me to a 4.2.2. rom though so I'll keep looking.
Cheers Robbo
Robbo106 said:
Yes I understood that. I'm in the same situation as you as in the way I flash ROMS. I didn't realise that the counter still worked even if it was an official update with bootloader, just thought if I flashed a custom rom with new bootloader it started the Knox warranty void.
Thanks for all your help. I'm gutted now though coz your right Samsung probably update my phone and then I'm b****ed anyway if I root again and custom rom it. Your link doen't take me to a 4.2.2. rom though so I'll keep looking.
Cheers Robbo
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Im sorry about that here you go www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/ and incase your having trouble feel free to ask here and ill answer you whenever i can or you can ask @Joku1981 as well. have a nice day.
Joku1981 said:
1- Ur phone is unbranded? MK9 use android 4.3. I will tell ya the correct firmware for u if u are lil confused
2- If u root it u will void ur warranty. Ur know will be 0x1
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Yes I'm unbranded and on 3 network. Unlocked
Would rather have sammy 4.2.2 to return it on please. Not confused just don't know how to find older version. It just brings up latest.
Robbo
Robbo106 said:
Yes I'm unbranded and on 3 network. Unlocked
Would rather have sammy 4.2.2 to return it on please. Not confused just don't know how to find older version. It just brings up latest.
Robbo
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- UK Android 4.3 -> HERE
- UK Android 4.2.2 -> HERE
Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
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Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
Joku1981 said:
- UK Android 4.3 -> HERE
- UK Android 4.2.2 -> HERE
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Robbo106 said:
Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
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You need to flash a pre-rooted rom from djembey thread. Then you can use triangle away to reset the binary .and the flash a stock rom and sent it for repair. Please read the instruction on djembey thread so you wont void ur warranty.
2nd opinion . Flash a stock rom with odin by selecting PDA. And root your phone using saferoot (i dont know about this if it works) install triangle away . Reset binary . Reflash stock again then send.
Sent from Hell ?
Is the pre rooted stock rom so that triangle away will work??? I'm on a pre rooted custom rom but need a samsung kernal for triangle away to work properly. If a flash the stock rom I have on 4.2.2 will that aslo flash stock recovery???
Repulsa said:
You need to flash a pre-rooted rom from djembey thread. Then you can use triangle away to reset the binary .and the flash a stock rom and sent it for repair. Please read the instruction on djembey thread so you wont void ur warranty.
2nd opinion . Flash a stock rom with odin by selecting PDA. And root your phone using saferoot (i dont know about this if it works) install triangle away . Reset binary . Reflash stock again then send.
Sent from Hell ?
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Robbo106 said:
Is the pre rooted stock rom so that triangle away will work??? I'm on a pre rooted custom rom but need a samsung kernal for triangle away to work properly. If a flash the stock rom I have on 4.2.2 will that aslo flash stock recovery???
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Thats correct ,as long its a Stock and rooted then yes you can reset the binary.then flash the stock rom again and you should be fine . incase your phone are still in old bootloader (no knox, never flash 4.3 Samsung rom) then feel free to flash a 4.2.2 Pre-rooted BMGA-odex-FULL from djembey thread ,once your done, Download/Install triangle away and reset the binary, flash a Normal stock rom from samsung, Boot into download mode and you will see it says Official and your good to go Goodluck mate
You've been a great help thanks. Stock recovery is that also flashed when I flash the stock rom last through odin???
So I'm gonna flash a stock rom pre rooted 4.2.2 with CWM then use triangle away then flash stock samsung through odin.
Repulsa said:
Thats correct ,as long its a Stock and rooted then yes you can reset the binary.then flash the stock rom again and you should be fine . incase your phone are still in old bootloader (no knox, never flash 4.3 Samsung rom) then feel free to flash a 4.2.2 Pre-rooted BMGA-odex-FULL from djembey thread ,once your done, Download/Install triangle away and reset the binary, flash a Normal stock rom from samsung, Boot into download mode and you will see it says Official and your good to go Goodluck mate
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Hi,
I have two questions - hope someone can assist:
1.Do you know a customized ROM with working KNOX?
2. If I will flash Samsung's original ROM, will I have a working KNOX? What about the flag?
Thanks.
wireless.tech.expert said:
Hi,
I have two questions - hope someone can assist:
1.Do you know a customized ROM with working KNOX?
2. If I will flash Samsung's original ROM, will I have a working KNOX? What about the flag?
Thanks.
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I believe you can still use knox even if the flag is 0x1. What just that means is that the container is not as secure and companies who allow BYOD will not certify it for use in their company. Most custom rom I've come across doesn't have knox.
Thanks.
So - flashing Samsung ROM with ODIN will flag 0x1?
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Thanks.
So - flashing Samsung ROM with ODIN will flag 0x1?
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Not really unless knox is already 0x1.
The phone is unrooted.
Sorry for asking again - if I understood well, flashing my unrooted phone with Samsung ROM will leave the phone with warranty (cleared flag)?
Thanks again.
wireless.tech.expert said:
The phone is unrooted.
Sorry for asking again - if I understood well, flashing my unrooted phone with Samsung ROM will leave the phone with warranty (cleared flag)?
Thanks again.
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Doesn't your phone already have Samsung rom or you are trying to update to 4.4.2?
I updated to 4.4.2 (OTA) but have a lot of problems so I want to go back to 4,3.
wireless.tech.expert said:
I updated to 4.4.2 (OTA) but have a lot of problems so I want to go back to 4,3.
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I'm afraid it's not possible to downgrade to 4.3 once you upgrade to 4.4.2 ( for now ). Only the N900W8 can go back and forth between 4.3 and 4.4.2.
Ohhh. Very bad.
Any case - thank you for your assistance.
wireless.tech.expert said:
Ohhh. Very bad.
Any case - thank you for your assistance.
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You're welcome :good: