Just a curious, semi-NooB questions... I've been rooting phones and running custom ROMs for only about 6 months, but I just now started wondering what gives you better battery life.... Stock ROM or a Custom ROM?
The ROM doesn't really affect battery life unless it has bloat that runs in the background. With a custom kernel you can underclock/change cpu governors to save, but really battery depends on whether or not you let things run in background and how long you have the screen on.
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With my s3 I found aosp based roms with better battery life then touchwiz. With the s4 i find touchwiz with better life.
If you were asking between stock touchwiz and custom touchwiz there are a couple of factors. A lite touchwiz custom Rom with a custom kernel should have better life then stock non root Rom/kernel because of bloatware removed and slight tweaks. Custom roms with ported apps and over theming can lead to more battery usage.
All battery stats are user and location related so best to run some tests on your own. A test I use is battery usage from a full charge overnight with data/Wi-Fi/sync/Bluetooth.... disabled. I find it a good constant base as long as there are no tower troubles.
One of the best things about android in my opinion is trying different roms and finding the one that suits me the best.
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the best part about these types of questions is that you get to do the research yourself. try a few roms out for a week at a time. you'll find your answer.
We cannot answer this question for you it depends on how you setup any rom, how you use it, and all the other factors people above mentioned.
I for one cannot wait to get this bootloader cracked open and try and get 7 hours screen on time with this baby custom roms of course will help me do this
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the best part about these types of questions is that you get to do the research yourself. try a few roms out for a week at a time. you'll find your answer.
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Unfortunately, I'm on MF3 and can't flash any ROMs..... Now I'm sitting here with a rooted stock S4 and a rooted HTC One with a custom ROM. I can't keep both and have to choose which one to get rid of within the next week.
Decisions, decisions, decisions......
Hi in my opinion better battery life then touchwiz and this is best and also i know about that dependability.
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Unfortunately, I'm on MF3 and can't flash any ROMs..... Now I'm sitting here with a rooted stock S4 and a rooted HTC One with a custom ROM. I can't keep both and have to choose which one to get rid of within the next week.
Decisions, decisions, decisions......
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Well I can tell you without a doubt: GET RID OF THAT HTCrap!!!!
I have had 5 or 6 HTC phones in the past 4 years, all Android, all rooted and I pushed those suckers hard, but i had to make so many insurance claims on my last 2 phones through T-Mobile that T-Mo cancelled my insurance policy.. it was not that i abused them they just all had issues
Beyond that I can prettty much say with all certainty that once our MF3 devices get that bootloader cracked open, this thing will beat out any phone on the market and certainly that HTC phone you've got!
It all depends on usage. That is all.
Tips:
1. get Better Battery Stats, and look at what is using battery. If you don't need or use an app that is using battery, freeze it or uninstall it.
2. turn off vibrations, auto-brightness, smart sensor, wifi, etc.
If all you do is use the phone to talk for 30-45 minutes a day, look up stuff on the internet occasionally, and for appointments/alarms, then 24 hours of battery life is easily achievable. If you are an avid phone gamer, you're out of luck.
I've been bouncing between the two for months now. Generally TW based ROMs give better battery life from how use my phone. I prefer AOSP ROMs but i usually find myself back with TW
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Do custom ROMs depend on only the model number or on the firmware number as well ?
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Do custom ROMs depend on only the model number or on the firmware number as well ?
I got 97% deep sleep last night over a ten hour period with SlimKat 4.4.2 AOSP ROM and stock kernel. Best I've ever seen.
That was with Greenify doing its job though.
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I just typed out my post and got the Mac equivalent of a BSoD and lost what i typed (wow fist time that has ever happened to me).
Flashed Decks, I have tried both tiamat and SavagedZen kernels. Followed a few different guides and no luck at all batter still stucks. Today my stats were as follows. 4h 55m on battery with very light to little or no usage at all and battery is at 10%. When i had it on stock ROM have much heavier usage and was never that low before. I rooted to get rid of bloatware and my main reason for AOSP ROM was to get away from sense messed up BT stack (want to use Wii controller), but if this is what I'm up against I will stick with a sense ROM (probably go back with fresh had with my hero and it worked well). is this the norm for ASOP? Ive seen other post about better battery life on sense ROMs. is it just how it handle the system different I already followed this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19474607#post19474607
And couldn't get it working fully. Does anyone have any other suggestion. Different ROMs, kernels, setting I could try as a last shot. Would prefer a basic ASOP with good battery life, and most stuff working (don't know if that's to much to ask).
Thanks in advance.
I don't think that 5 hours of battery life should be considered normal for any ROM. If that is all you get from a phone then something is wrong.
Have you tried wiping battery stats in recovery? Sometimes the software just reads the battery level incorrectly. It would have to be pretty far off to claim you were at 10% after only 5 hours but who knows...
You can google it but the typical process is to charge it up to 100%, wipe battery stats, then reboot and unplug. Drain the phone until it's absolutely dead then you charge it fully again and it should read the battery level more accurately. Apparently it is bad for Lithium Ion batteries to be drained completely though, so it is not recommended to do this often as it can shorten the overall performance of your battery.
I haven't seen much of a difference in my battery life using Cyanogenmod 7 or MikG (currently running 2.58 but 2.60 is out now). I personally really prefer sense ROMs and MikG is definitely the best one I have used. Give it a shot. I have gotten 60 hours of battery life on the stock Sense ROM (granted, it was with almost no use) and over 30 hours with pretty decent usage. I posted some youtube videos to demonstrate this since I figured everyone would claim I doctored photos:
over 50 hours (wound up being 60 hours by the time I finally unplugged):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGJucqVw0RQ
32 hours:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPqtsRDRYEs
I have since moved to MikG but I pushed my battery again last weekend and got another 30+ hours of it. I'm extremely happy with my battery life!
I am sticking with MikG over CM7...I have too many issues with CM7 and there just isn't enough to keep me there. I was going to write up a huge post about that now.
yea i actually did wipe that stats. Ill probably just do a full wipe and start fresh with sense rom and see where it goes. What are some advantages of mikG any features that make it special over others? What version of sense does it have? Im downloading right now. is there a info page of what all it includes? i couldn't find much info for it.
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yea i actually did wipe that stats. Ill probably just do a full wipe and start fresh with sense rom and see where it goes. What are some advantages of mikG any features that make it special over others? What version of sense does it have?
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Mikg is 2.1+ 3.0 rom it has some sense 3.0 features
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Im in the same boat some what, but I will say your time should be better with no use. Im not getting huge battery increases with aosp roms when using the phone. Im better off with the stuff that worked well on sense roms for me with no tinkering (gps, slow sd speeds, updating prls, etc)
Im convinced the people that claim these lengthy phone hours dont use their phone besides texting much even if they say otherwise. Most screen shots I see rarely even have voice calls registering. I think the best way for "me" to get a full day is to buy an extended battery. Im not on wifi all day, Im in and out of low signal areas. I need to keep data on due to emails for work. Maybe Ill run into a miracle rom and kernel, lol
I do like the classic rom which I backed up and I will try some others today (fusion/hyrbid ex1)
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yea i actually did wipe that stats. Ill probably just do a full wipe and start fresh with sense rom and see where it goes. What are some advantages of mikG any features that make it special over others? What version of sense does it have? Im downloading right now. is there a info page of what all it includes? i couldn't find much info for it.
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You can check out the change log at themikmik.com:
http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?871-MikG-v2.xx-Info-Screen-Shots-and-Download-links
I always wind up back on this ROM. I just think it looks beautiful, it is fast, and it just works. I use GO launcher EX as my launcher by the way. I highly recommend it no matter what ROM you use.
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Im convinced the people that claim these lengthy phone hours dont use their phone besides texting much even if they say otherwise. Most screen shots I see rarely even have voice calls registering. I think the best way for "me" to get a full day is to buy an extended battery. Im not on wifi all day, Im in and out of low signal areas. I need to keep data on due to emails for work. Maybe Ill run into a miracle rom and kernel, lol
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I totally agree with you with is why if you watch my second video posted above, I actually go into the usage screen and tap on the things to show what I am using. 50 minutes of voice calls, 25 minutes of words with friends, 41 minutes of GPS, Bluetooth on 100% of the time, etc.
But typically when I see those you tube videos I see people saying they were using their phone heavily and got 25 hours out of it. If you look closely in their battery stats screen though, you'll see that cell standby was the top battery user. That refutes the heavy usage claim right there!
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To be honest. I didn't read the post but I will check that out. Thanks
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How is this possible? I'm on 1500 stock Mah battery on a fresh sense rom 4.3.2 my battery wont last that long even if I reset battery stats. But running on cm7 with stock it does pretty well avaerage 15+ hrs depending my usage.
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You can check out the change log at themikmik.com:
http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?871-MikG-v2.xx-Info-Screen-Shots-and-Download-links
I always wind up back on this ROM. I just think it looks beautiful, it is fast, and it just works. I use GO launcher EX as my launcher by the way. I highly recommend it no matter what ROM you use.
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I put FreshEvo and it looks like battery is holding up well. I got MikG tp play around with..(it does look beautiful). A few quick question about it.
1. Does it have the native hotspot app unlocked or just wireless tether?
2. Has CarrierID been removed or disabled?
3. Should I use the default kernel in the rom, or is there a particular one you use.
Thanks,
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I just typed out my post and got the Mac equivalent of a BSoD and lost what i typed (wow fist time that has ever happened to me).
Flashed Decks, I have tried both tiamat and SavagedZen kernels. Followed a few different guides and no luck at all batter still stucks. Today my stats were as follows. 4h 55m on battery with very light to little or no usage at all and battery is at 10%. When i had it on stock ROM have much heavier usage and was never that low before. I rooted to get rid of bloatware and my main reason for AOSP ROM was to get away from sense messed up BT stack (want to use Wii controller), but if this is what I'm up against I will stick with a sense ROM (probably go back with fresh had with my hero and it worked well). is this the norm for ASOP? Ive seen other post about better battery life on sense ROMs. is it just how it handle the system different I already followed this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19474607#post19474607
And couldn't get it working fully. Does anyone have any other suggestion. Different ROMs, kernels, setting I could try as a last shot. Would prefer a basic ASOP with good battery life, and most stuff working (don't know if that's to much to ask).
Thanks in advance.
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all the aosp roms/kernels are in the link in my sig, just click it and check it out.
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I put FreshEvo and it looks like battery is holding up well. I got MikG tp play around with..(it does look beautiful). A few quick question about it.
1. Does it have the native hotspot app unlocked or just wireless tether?
2. Has CarrierID been removed or disabled?
3. Should I use the default kernel in the rom, or is there a particular one you use.
Thanks,
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1. It has the native hotspot unlocked.
2. I don't even know what you're asking here sorry. Do you mean you want to use it on another carrier besides Sprint? If so I have no idea...maybe post your question on themikmik forums.
3. I use whatever kernel MikG comes with. Some people like to flash other ones, but I have never messed with new kernels, regardless of the ROM I'm using.
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thanks
I just would like to show my appreciation to gamblor01 for his links and knowledge base..I am a flashaholic only because I wanted to find the best performing Rom/Kernel combo to squeeze the most life out of my battery and to be honest I am a bit of a noob...I have tried synergy ROM synister Rom kinged shooter, cm7 which did show some improvements but I just love my sense roms.....I stumbled upon this last night...and i did it...found MikG 2.60 sense Rom and i am running chopsuey 9.2.6 and i did like he stated .....turned off unnecessary things like 3g when not using...lowered display brightness, changed sync settings to a very minimal to where it only updates when I open the app...I went to work for 8 am and the phone was off the charger till it died 16 hours later almost 17 I will post pics as testament thanks again
The phone died around 12 am almost 1..btw
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And of course I can't figure out how to upload a picture from my phone how noobish of me...I will find a way soon enough
Great! I have found MikG to be awesome so I'm glad it works for you too. If you want to upload a screenshot then tap the power button and quickly hit home. It should take a screenshot. Then if you want to share it you can go the gallery app and tap the share icon (circle with 2 arrows). If you want to attach it to a post here from your phone (xda app) then start a message and then tap the more button. You should be able to attach something from the gallery.
I just posted pretty much the same info at themikmik.com but it was more detailed. I'm on my phone right now but I'll go copy that link and paste it into an edit here.
Edit: Here is the link
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...h-your-battery&p=149009&viewfull=1#post149009
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Senseless MikG 2.9 has gotten me over 2 days of moderate usage consistently. This however does not include 4G since I can't get a signal anywhere >_<
I use CM7.1 + SavagedZen (latest) SBC (BFS) and get between 40 and 60 hours depending on usage.
I am also using the Sprint extended battery, however. By my estimation, this accounts for roughly 8 - 10 of those hours.
The kernel made a HUGE difference. Tiamat 3.3.7 was only getting me about 20 hours tops.
Phone is also undervolted, and supercharged. No overclocking or underclocking. I am incredibly pleased with this phone - definitely can't switch phones unless I know that I can get something remotely close in terms of battery life!
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I just typed out my post and got the Mac equivalent of a BSoD and lost what i typed (wow fist time that has ever happened to me).
Flashed Decks, I have tried both tiamat and SavagedZen kernels. Followed a few different guides and no luck at all batter still stucks. Today my stats were as follows. 4h 55m on battery with very light to little or no usage at all and battery is at 10%. When i had it on stock ROM have much heavier usage and was never that low before. I rooted to get rid of bloatware and my main reason for AOSP ROM was to get away from sense messed up BT stack (want to use Wii controller), but if this is what I'm up against I will stick with a sense ROM (probably go back with fresh had with my hero and it worked well). is this the norm for ASOP? Ive seen other post about better battery life on sense ROMs. is it just how it handle the system different I already followed this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19474607#post19474607
And couldn't get it working fully. Does anyone have any other suggestion. Different ROMs, kernels, setting I could try as a last shot. Would prefer a basic ASOP with good battery life, and most stuff working (don't know if that's to much to ask).
Thanks in advance.
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Simple solution, sell or return the Evo and get a 2nd generation windows phone mango device such as the Focus S or Titan or Lumina series, or even a first Gen such as the Focus. No more constant rom flashes, force closes, lag, and horrible battery life.
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OZGBLACK said:
I just would like to show my appreciation to gamblor01 for his links and knowledge base..I am a flashaholic only because I wanted to find the best performing Rom/Kernel combo to squeeze the most life out of my battery and to be honest I am a bit of a noob...I have tried synergy ROM synister Rom kinged shooter, cm7 which did show some improvements but I just love my sense roms.....I stumbled upon this last night...and i did it...found MikG 2.60 sense Rom and i am running chopsuey 9.2.6 and i did like he stated .....turned off unnecessary things like 3g when not using...lowered display brightness, changed sync settings to a very minimal to where it only updates when I open the app...I went to work for 8 am and the phone was off the charger till it died 16 hours later almost 17 I will post pics as testament thanks again
The phone died around 12 am almost 1..btw
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And of course I can't figure out how to upload a picture from my phone how noobish of me...I will find a way soon enough
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i know you said you like sense roms, however if you wanna find out about aosp roms/kernels check the link in my sig i get over 24 hours w/o an extended battery and i do play games and use the internet.
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Simple solution, sell or return the Evo and get a 2nd generation windows phone mango device such as the Focus S or Titan or Lumina series, or even a first Gen such as the Focus. No more constant rom flashes, force closes, lag, and horrible battery life.
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wow..... please do not troll in our EVO 4G Thread. Thank You!!!
Dammit I think that I am not allowed cause it just repeats
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Oh well i will do a few more tests put them on my pc and then upload them through my web browser there and i will show some well (record breaking) battery life.
And I can't say thanks again
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I love to play around with new ROMs and kernels and usually don't mind a few hiccups and occasional poor performance. But soon I will have a one week period where I need my phone to be as solid as possible. What's the best ROM/kernel for this?
I currently use CM7 as my daily and have tested CM9. CM7 is great except battery life is pretty bad, with both the CM7 and Samurai kernels. I lose about 1% of battery for every 90 secs I'm actively doing something - even on Wifi and with a strong 3g signal. A 15minute drive with GPS (and screen off) easily takes 10% off my battery. This is unacceptable for my upcoming event.
I would like a ROM/kernel combo that can go for a minimum of 12 hours with moderate use. No voice, but frequent texting, email, twitter checks, some photos, and calling up pdfs. Battery life and stability are the top concerns, but GPS is important as well. CM7 gives me the best GPS results I've ever had with my Epic, but like I said, the battery performance is awful.
Any ideas? Focusing on all the cutting edge stuff means I've lost touch with the latest improvements on the more basic, but more solid ROMs.
Thanks!
get a larger battery or pick up a spare oe battery as a backup.
this is one of those questions you just dont ask cause it all depends on how you use your phone and all that i know you say what you mostly use it for but it still doesnt help if you are looking for a stable rom as far as mtd goes they are all good and as far as kernels go they are all good but the kicker is just finding what works best for you feel free to play around with them flash one per day and figure out which one works best for you cause honestly we cant tell you cause what would extend our battery life might not work for you because you use your phone differently than we do but trust me all of our devs are gonna throw out something that doesnt work all the warnings are there and all the help and how to's for each rom and kernel are in their respective threads sorry i couldnt give you a better answer bud
happy flashing
Oh and I forgot to mention since you have been running cm7 make sure you don't flash a bml rom not sure if u were aware of that or not so only flash and MTD rom and kernel
CleanGB. No OC/UV, and buy an epic touch 1800mah battery. For me I get best responsiveness vs battery life if I run 100/800mhz with governer set to performance. You'd have to REALLY try to kill that battery in a day with this setup.
Edit: you use gps in the car without plugging it in? No wonder your battery commits suicide lol. If I use gps and stream music through bluetooth it still discharges on the charger.
There is no such thing. Even pure stock has errors on some people's phones. You need to try one or if it is that important than stock is your best bet. EVERY Phone is different. Read through some of the ROMs...95% of the people have no problems and 5% do. It is the nature of the beast. No one can tell which is best for YOUR phone. And if CM7 is giving you terrible battery life, there already is something wrong with your phone setup. You probably need to start from scratch and restore no apps or data and download apps fresh from the market.
I've always had good luck with CleanGB roms & kernals by toadlife.
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I've always had good luck with CleanGB roms & kernals by toadlife.
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But not everybody does. There is no best. I can easily say marcusantrom with shadow kernel is best on touchwiz and CM7 with the kernel it comes with is the best in general. I won't say this because different people have different phones and preferences... if you really want the best rom/kernel/theme, make it yourself.
In Soviet Epic forum, clockworkmod root you!
experienced user told me that Stock(AOSP 4.2.2) is better than Custom (CM10.1, AOKP...) (in terms of Battery life.)
is this true? maybe someone test?
i have Nexus 7 3G (AOKP off + franco Kernel)
It's impossible to give you a truly correct answer because there's too many variants which can make battery life differ.
As things like apps, usage, ROMs, kernels, mods, the device, tweaks and many other things can all have different effects on battery life, it really is dependant on the specific situation.
So if I was to have the 3G model (as you have), be using the same ROM and kernel combination, have all settings exactly the same, have exactly the same apps installed, use the apps for exactly the same amount of time and have the same mods/tweaks installed, we could still quite easily have our battery life last a different amount of time.
Due to that, that's why it's always best to just test them out for yourself so then you'll know exactly how your battery will perform in regards to your usage
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The ROM makes little to no difference whatsoever. Battery life is more affected by the kernel and your own individual settings.
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But some ROMs claim to have better battery life than the others (CodenameBattery, SuperCharge Series). Are they talking nonsense?
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Odp: [Q] Best Battery life. Stock or Custom?
I use stock 4.2.2 rooted in two weeks now, and the battery is very good. Try to stick to stock in one week or so.
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But some ROMs claim to have better battery life than the others (CodenameBattery, SuperCharge Series). Are they talking nonsense?
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Some could absolutely be talking nonsense but others could actually be telling the truth.
They could have certain tweaks in place that will indeed improve battery and could also have more power saving apps included. There's so many variables that without actually testing them out for yourself, there's no way of knowing whether it will have better battery life or not.
I use a custom ROM on my gnex simply for color control, but in my experience custom kernels never improve battery enough to make more than a very minimal difference. I stick to stock with my 7 for multiple reasons, one being certain EA games won't download data while using custom kernels. You'll see people claiming custom kernel's get them 9 hours display time ect... Well I've gotten that on stock depending on what I was doing with my 7. My average is usually more like 5-6 over 2-3 days as I use it more for gaming than anything.
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Like previous members have stated, it's not possible to give you a definite answer as to which gives you better battery life. When I received my N7 I rooted and installed a ROM and a kernel. Ultimately I revert back to full stock android for many reasons. One, battery life was much better on stock kernel than a custom one. I didn't need a custom ROM either. Only on my N4 would I need custom software installed because recently my mother has been using my N7 a lot so my N4 is what I use most now.
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Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
You're never going to get zero percent battery use, maybe your expectations are out of line?
How much screen on time do you out of a full charge? And what's your %/hour drop when the phone is sitting untouched?
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Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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google doesnt come up with a new way for android to suck more battery , YOU DO , note the keyword is YOU , now figure it out .
I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour
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I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour
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battery life is all dependent on YOUR personal usage, your personal setup, your personal decision to install whatever apps, and very much your phone/data signal. if your data/phone signal is only so so, then youyr battery life will only be so so. if you have things draining your battery besides for your signal and use, its up to you to figure out why. thye battery klife of my nexus 4 and nexus 5, actually, all androids that ive ever owned, has been wonderful. i get the same google apps updates as you, no less. so you have to figure it out.
OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.
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OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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App updates come along. Play Store is set to give notifications and to auto-update. Some app updates don't give notifications and "Android OS" causes a load of wakelocks until I spot that the update needs doing and do it manually. Same thing happens on my wife's stock Nexus 4. We are both in the Uk on Three network and have good signal.
I have BBS but I need to see what it says when I get this app update problem. I will post my findings when I get the info. If nobody here recognises this problem maybe I need to look at what is similar between our two Nexus 4s. I know we both have WhatsApp and, of course, all the Google apps, both on 4.4.4 but there the similarities end.
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Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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one more thing, you do not need root or to be rooted to run a custom rom or kernel. the only thing that root is need for is to change system files or to run root apps. but yea, you can get great battery life on stock.
I have been getting great battery life from the stock ROM after a few tweaks apart from this problem with updates. I have had a couple of other ROMs on this phone but went back to stock after the last couple of system updates. When I'm not having this particular battery drain then, if I leave the phone alone, I'm getting about 1%/hr battery drain. Also my wife doesn't want her Nexus "messed about with" and it helps if the two are fairly similar. Xposed is the big difference between the two.
The Defy+ is on 2.3 because I only use it when I'm out hiking and it might rain. The Defy is not easy to upgrade and 2.3 was where Android got good, so I'm OK with it, if that's all right with you.
BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.
Badgie said:
BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.
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That's nice
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h
Mashed_Potatoes said:
over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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A stripped down ROM running only the bare minimum can greatly improve battery life! Just have a sift through some custom ROMs and you will find the ones that are tuned to do such a thing.
Also in reply to others here, the advantage of being rooted means you can remove unwanted system apps, underclock etc which if you're concerned about battery life would be quite important I would have thought.
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jd1639 said:
You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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This is what you need to do if you want to persist with the stock ROM. I personally have used betterbatterystats with success. Use this to check wakelocks as these are often the cause of mystery battery drain. There is an old but useful guide to that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi
BMXJeff said:
PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi
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Me too. That was a difficult three years.
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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Not possible with the 2100mah that n4 has! I have the same set up and I'm getting 3h sot..
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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i never use data and i average 3,5-4h sot?
So I was using this phone as my main phone and moved to custom rooms due to issues with video playback on stock roms. However, I now barely use this phone but it needs to remain on for a couple of texts or phone calls a week or random app usage, most of the time it remains idle so I believe the power savings if dose works should be noticeable? Anyways, I wanted to know which rom would have the best battery life since I don't really care about features etc, but I don't want the phone to be unstable for day to day use in the future, just in case as it is my backup phone. I'm currently on optimised cm 13 from a couple of months ago on a i9505.
Thanks for any input.
It seems to be a general consensus that TouchWiz ROMs have better battery life than costucustom ROMs. So maybe you should start there.
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So I was using this phone as my main phone and moved to custom rooms due to issues with video playback on stock roms. However, I now barely use this phone but it needs to remain on for a couple of texts or phone calls a week or random app usage, most of the time it remains idle so I believe the power savings if dose works should be noticeable? Anyways, I wanted to know which rom would have the best battery life since I don't really care about features etc, but I don't want the phone to be unstable for day to day use in the future, just in case as it is my backup phone. I'm currently on optimised cm 13 from a couple of months ago on a i9505.
Thanks for any input.
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KitKat firmware is the best for battery life.