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Introducing turbo mode: up to 50% more performance for free
...Now able to offer a “turbo mode”, which dynamically enables overclock and overvolt under the control of a cpufreq driver, without affecting your warranty
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008
Have you tried this? I was wondering if there's much of a heat problem caused by it.
Just set it one step below the max speed, 900mhz. it works fine
I might try it then, would it be worth getting a cooler for it and going a bit higher?
Has anyone been using this overclocking for longer time (i.e. few months)? Is it safe?
It should be reasonably safe as the original article on the official Pi site mentions, but here are a few thoughts.
The entire Pi board only consumes about 5 watts. Compare that with 80 to 150 watts for current Intel PC processors. You are more likely to run into trouble with the latter by overclocking them. These days they have built in thermal sensors which will shut them down before they fuse into a solid lump of glass.
Any problems with the Pi are likely to be instability issues caused by other components failing to keep up, rather than them passing out with the heat.
The Broadcom chip containing the CPU and GPU, is mounted underneath the memory chip. The two are soldered together on a Ball Grid Array of solder contacts. As a result there is a miniscule air gap between the CPU and the memory.
If a cooler is mounted, it is going to have more effect on the memory than the CPU/GPU.
Yea I've been overclocking my pi and once they realized it wouldn't be detrimental to the device unless overvolted to the extreme it was incorporated in their official rom. The "Turbo" mode is basically equivalent to an auto oc button or software on a current motherboard. Anyways, it definitely improves the device speed by far and they even warranty it. Also as someone stated the device puts out so low wattage it doesn't get more than about 5c hotter. That's with me overvolting it +6, just make sure you have a solid charger.
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The issues people were having were in relation to overclocking is SD card corruption, however that is mostly seen on media builds such as rasmbc and xbian.I haven't had the time to look into it, but I doubt its hardware related.
The turbo mode includes a thermal limit, so it won't fry itself.
It makes quite a difference since the Hz boost only happens when there is extra loading, so it speeds up just when it is needed and takes the edge off.
Testing with full load all I could manage was about 5 deg C rise, and it was still cooler than the LAN chip (and only warm to touch so less than 60 degC guess).
Even the heat from the LAN chip has been reduced by the Rev2 changes (due to unlinking of the 2.5V regulator).
Still, keeping your chips cooler isn't going to do any harm, so could extend it's life a little.
anyone who has one of these units how does it run with rapsxbmc im thinking of purchasing one for my bedroom
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anyone who has one of these units how does it run with rapsxbmc im thinking of purchasing one for my bedroom
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I find that Xbian is better, but yeah, the Pi is a great media center due to HDMI connectivity and a powerful graphics core.
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anyone who has one of these units how does it run with rapsxbmc im thinking of purchasing one for my bedroom
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Raspbmc all of the way. So simple to set up and use. Love it.
+1 did many stress tests with 1Ghz over clocking xD\
to my surprise it sustained
Anyone tried to put a heatsink on the chip?
I thought about it but in other fact it makes no sense for me when I have a case.
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Anyone tried to put a heatsink on the chip?
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A bunch of people have tried putting a heat sink on the RPi. While for average use most people say it is unnecessary it can make a difference with the temperatures when overclocking even if you have a case with vent holes. You can find some good metal heat sinks for the RPi here. And if you want to see an interesting cooling project, one person is currently trying to water cool their RPi.
Turbo Mode doesn't works for me. max speed i can ser is 950Mhz... :S
Change it in config file:
Code:
sudo nano /boot/config.txt
Code:
arm_freq=950
Change this line to for example arm_freq=1000 to have 1GHz.
That's how I've got on my raspi:
Code:
arm_freq=950
over_voltage=6
core_freq=500
sdram_freq=500
Works without any problem just on USB, I don't even have anyother AC connected
Hey guys,
I've done search and come across a few things:
* MK809II
* MK802IIIS
* ODroid U2
My question is - which is the "recommended" or "best" stick - I plan to play 1080p movies and probably the use of the Android Playstore for games etc.
Thanks,
Matt
Would love to know as well, any experts ?
Really depends on ROM support. Seems most get the mk808 models. I have one and the 809 and 809ii. All work the same. Slight performance gain on 808. 1080 works on all but not very good for me. Gets choppy.
I am waiting for quadcores to hit the market before i get into them more. They should work alot better then!
Isn't this strange, aren't 809 and 809ii supposed to work better ?
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Really depends on ROM support. Seems most get the mk808 models. I have one and the 809 and 809ii. All work the same. Slight performance gain on 808. 1080 works on all but not very good for me. Gets choppy.
I am waiting for quadcores to hit the market before i get into them more. They should work alot better then!
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I have the MK809ii and I purchased it because it has 8gb memory, dual core, and bluetooth. From what I remember the 808 had less memory and no bluetooth. I think the 808b has bluetooth but If I remember correctly that one also had 4 gb memory.
Hope that helps:good:
MK808B BEST STICK at the moment
pewterwest said:
I have the MK809ii and I purchased it because it has 8gb memory, dual core, and bluetooth. From what I remember the 808 had less memory and no bluetooth. I think the 808b has bluetooth but If I remember correctly that one also had 4 gb memory.
Hope that helps:good:
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Here are my reasons why you should buy the MK808B NOW!
1. Price less than $50 at geekbuying.com (they sell real ones, not fake and they get factory firmwares by request)
2. Dual core, 1608mhz each (set governor to performance to max results)
3. Bluetooth (keyboards, mouse, headset, headphones, Wii controllers, file transfers)
4. Great wifi, on par with my Motorola Bionic use Wifi Analyzer to test yours, will even tell you what router channel is the best. No signal drops.
5. 8GB ROM and it is fast, 1GB Fast DDR2 RAM, microSD slot. I have 4 port hub and 3 USB drives and USB Webcam connected, all working.
6. LOTS of support. Finless Bob and Lewy20041 have both released custom ROMS and factory even sent out 4.2
7. No heating issues, never locks up, no reboots required, fast and stable.
8. XMBC support and MXPlayer has full hardware acceleration.
I have plenty of supporting benchmarks and comparisons on my blog
tabletuser.blogspot.com LINK
Once the quadcores get down near the $60 range I'll be moving towards one of those, best to watch which quadcore gets most development attentions. ROM developers help make the stick faster and better. I'm sure once the MK808B has an overclocking kernel I'll be able to get close to the freescale quadcore in benchmarks. 1080 over wifi not possible, not sure I've seen anyone posting success with wifi 1080.
I have an 802IIIs plugged into a 1080p 60 Hz TV. It works well, it was exactly as I had expected.
I use it only really to watch Youtube, Netflix, and other TV/videos online. It does an excellent job doing that. Pair it up with a wireless mouse or Droidmote and you got a pretty good set up. If you're using Droidmote via your phone or tablet, you can even enter text in the 802 via your phone or tablet's microphone.
Angry Birds runs smoothly on it too. GTA III and Vice City (you have to sideload Vice City) all work very well. I've never played them on PS2 so I can't compare the graphics, but action and frame rate are actually very smooth, no lag at all. You can hook up a PS3 controller to your tablet/phone running Droidmote and play with a physical controller.
Is it possible to stream a video online in the browser with this sticks?
Would blow this rat's nest of cords in my room away
I just want to stream videos, which one should I buy?
I think the MK802s are too expensive for me, if I just want to stream.
Thanks!
Cheap Streaming
P4N1C said:
Is it possible to stream a video online in the browser with this sticks?
Would blow this rat's nest of cords in my room away
I just want to stream videos, which one should I buy?
I think the MK802s are too expensive for me, if I just want to stream.
Thanks!
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YES
My first Android Stick was the Uhost U1A and it is down to $30 on Geekbuying.com. It has a single core cpu and is more than capable of streaming online content. Most single core devices score about the same and Uhost U1A has the best firmwares. I ran a bunch of benchmarks and you can use that to compare to most dual core systems or your android phone/tablet.
http://tabletuser.blogspot.com/2012/12/uhost-u1a-benchmark-screen-shots.html
LINK
Since price of the MK802s start around $40 for the single core, I'm guessing that $30 would be your price range? The UI (user interface) isn't very smooth at all. I constantly have the operating system asking if it should end a process because it was running too slow. I didn't have many issues gaming, but I didn't play too many games on it. I can watch Youtube without any hiccups, it uses almost no cpu power to play NO HD content. MX Player offers hardware acceleration so 720p videos are possible.
What online streaming are you looking to use? XMBC has plenty of channels. If you have to patients, go for the Uhost U1A, but don't expect any more firmwares or custom ROMs. If you can get into the $50 range, take a look at the MK808B, it is full of options, thanks to bluetooth, has almost triple to power/speed as Uhost U1A, and is getting plenty of factory and custom firmware support thanks to geekbuying.
I have more benchmarks, and reviews on the MK808B. This is one of the best Android Sticks for under $50.
http://tabletuser.blogspot.com LINK
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YES
My first Android Stick was the Uhost U1A and it is down to $30 on Geekbuying.com. It has a single core cpu and is more than capable of streaming online content. Most single core devices score about the same and Uhost U1A has the best firmwares. I ran a bunch of benchmarks and you can use that to compare to most dual core systems or your android phone/tablet.
http://tabletuser.blogspot.com/2012/12/uhost-u1a-benchmark-screen-shots.html
LINK
Since price of the MK802s start around $40 for the single core, I'm guessing that $30 would be your price range? The UI (user interface) isn't very smooth at all. I constantly have the operating system asking if it should end a process because it was running too slow. I didn't have many issues gaming, but I didn't play too many games on it. I can watch Youtube without any hiccups, it uses almost no cpu power to play NO HD content. MX Player offers hardware acceleration so 720p videos are possible.
What online streaming are you looking to use? XMBC has plenty of channels. If you have to patients, go for the Uhost U1A, but don't expect any more firmwares or custom ROMs. If you can get into the $50 range, take a look at the MK808B, it is full of options, thanks to bluetooth, has almost triple to power/speed as Uhost U1A, and is getting plenty of factory and custom firmware support thanks to geekbuying.
I have more benchmarks, and reviews on the MK808B. This is one of the best Android Sticks for under $50.
http://tabletuser.blogspot.com LINK
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Thanks a lot for given me an overview!
I think I will buy the MK808B on geekbuying.. compared with the prices in Germany for the 808B, it`s anyway really cheap.
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Here are my reasons why you should buy the MK808B NOW!
1. Price less than $50 at geekbuying.com (they sell real ones, not fake and they get factory firmwares by request)
2. Dual core, 1608mhz each (set governor to performance to max results)
3. Bluetooth (keyboards, mouse, headset, headphones, Wii controllers, file transfers)
4. Great wifi, on par with my Motorola Bionic use Wifi Analyzer to test yours, will even tell you what router channel is the best. No signal drops.
5. 8GB ROM and it is fast, 1GB Fast DDR2 RAM, microSD slot. I have 4 port hub and 3 USB drives and USB Webcam connected, all working.
6. LOTS of support. Finless Bob and Lewy20041 have both released custom ROMS and factory even sent out 4.2
7. No heating issues, never locks up, no reboots required, fast and stable.
8. XMBC support and MXPlayer has full hardware acceleration.
I have plenty of supporting benchmarks and comparisons on my blog
tabletuser.blogspot.com LINK
Once the quadcores get down near the $60 range I'll be moving towards one of those, best to watch which quadcore gets most development attentions. ROM developers help make the stick faster and better. I'm sure once the MK808B has an overclocking kernel I'll be able to get close to the freescale quadcore in benchmarks. 1080 over wifi not possible, not sure I've seen anyone posting success with wifi 1080.
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I bought the MK 808B based on your reveiws, can you tell me which is the best bluetooth remote plus mouse that I should buy ?
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Not even with MiMo 802.11N?
how is the performance for running this for many hours. I mean if you are watching youtube/online streaming for 3-5 hours continuous, does it perform well or any degradation in performance. Any issues of heating up, also how is the wifi radio does the connection stays stable with your wifi router so that online stream plays without any issues.
Also does anyone know if geekbuying.com does shipping to MiddleEast?
thanks
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I bought the MK 808B based on your reveiws, can you tell me which is the best bluetooth remote plus mouse that I should buy ?
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If you've already got another Android device give the free MK802III wifi controller app a try (despite it's name it works fine on MK808b - the server side is pre-installed on the device and is called ehome media)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wxLDMsImNvbS5yb2NrY2hpcC5yZW1vdGVjb250cm9sIl0.
For more bells and whistles you could buy Droidmote - client app is free, server is around $2:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wOSwib3JnLnZpZGVvbWFwLmRyb2lkbW90ZXNlcnZlciJd
Sixaxis works well as a bluetooth game controller when used with a genuine Sony PS3 game pad (does cost to buy but is pretty cheap):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5ncGl4ZWxzdHVkaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb250cm9sbGVyIl0.
I use all of the above as and when it suits, plus my Microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse work brilliantly - just plug the receiver into the full-size usb port on the device and away you go
Finally, install and set the NULL keyboard as default input device in order to stop the on-screen keyboard popping up every time you want to type:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS53cGFyYW0ubnVsbGtleWJvYXJkIl0.
If you want to eliminate any streaming issues for 1080 over wifi this usb to ethernet adapter will work with the MK808b straight out of the box:
http://dx.com/p/usb-2-0-10-100mbps-rj45-lan-ethernet-network-adapter-dongle-34691
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how is the performance for running this for many hours. I mean if you are watching youtube/online streaming for 3-5 hours continuous, does it perform well or any degradation in performance. Any issues of heating up, also how is the wifi radio does the connection stays stable with your wifi router so that online stream plays without any issues.
Also does anyone know if geekbuying.com does shipping to MiddleEast?
thanks
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I have used mine for online streaming for 3 - 4 hours at a time (Youtube, BBC iPlayer, various tv episode streaming sites) without any issues affecting performance, no over heating, no signal loss or dropped connections. The only thing that was mildly irritating was that the default web browser (which works surprisingly well with flash) was set to iPad as the default user agent - change it to Desktop and it calls exactly the same version of websites as your PC browser.
I am still using the stock JellyBean 4.2.2 ROM that shipped on the device.
i just ordered this from amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-MK9...&qid=1366656446&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=mk908
TronSmart™- Android TV Box
This is quad core TV box armed with with Quad Core Rockchip RK3188 and Quad Core Mali 400 GPU.
Specification
- OS: Google Android 4.1 (Flash 11.X?HTML5)
- CPU: Rk3188 Quad Core 1.6ghz, max 1.8Ghz(maximum data from manufacturer for CPU - only) (Cortex-A9)
- GPU: Quad Core Mali 400
- RAM: DDR3 2GB; ROM: On board NAND Flash 8G (Android system itself and other user data will take some space)
- Expand Micro SD: Micro SD Card/ T-Flash(Maximum support 32GB)
- Video Format: WMV/ASF/MP4/3GP/3G2M4V/AVI/MJPEG/RV10/DivX/VC-1/MPEG-2/MPEG-4/H.263/H.264/1280*720P HD 30 fps, 1080P/720*480 D1 30fps
- Audio Format: Support: MP3/WMA/APE/FLAC/AAC/OGG/AC3/WAV
- Picture Format: Support: Max.8000x8000 JPEG BMP GIF PNG
- WIFI: support 802.11 b/g/n
- Bluetooth: Bluetooth v4.0
- Output: MINI HDMI Port
- Dimension: 88mm * 31.5mm * 15.8mm
- DC: 5V 2A
- Weight: <50g - Storage environment: -20°C--60°C, 10%--90% Humidity
Ports
- 1*Mini USB,Support OTG/HOST ( USB port RJ45)
- 1*standard USB
- 1*Mini USB For charging
- 1*TF card slot
- 1*Blue LED(When connect to power
1*Physical botton(For upgrading software)
Package Includes
- 1*Tronsmart MK908
- 1*charger
- 1*hdmi cable
- 1*micro usb cable
- 1*otg cable
- 1*user manual
Let us know how it is when it comes! Really excited to see the RK3188 make its way to the TV sticks.
Ok will do sir
It's already rooted and preloaded with xbmc.
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Difference between MK908 and EU MK908
Hi,
Could anyway explain to me what the difference is between these products besides the price?
geekbuying.com/item/Tronsmart-MK908-Google-Android-4-1-Mini-PC-TV-Box-RK3188-Quad-Core-2G-8G-BT-Black-315155.html
geekbuying.com/item/EU-plug-Tronsmart-MK908-Google-Android-4-1-Mini-PC-TV-Box-RK3188-Quad-Core-2G-8G-BT-Black-315163.html
Couldn't see any noticeable differences, I'm assuming that they're the same product (MK908). Just curious where the 10 euro difference comes from..
Thanks!!
They are the same I bought it off USA amazon that's paying 10 dollars more. Geek buying is cheaper
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Review is available!
http://liliputing.com/2013/04/tronsmart-mk908-quad-core-android-tv-stick-performance-video.html
It seems like HW decoding isn't available yet for XBMC.
Has it arrived?
Is there much support for this device like ROM's or mods?
digweed4me said:
They are the same I bought it off USA amazon that's paying 10 dollars more. Geek buying is cheaper
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I actually was wondering about the "EU plug" version of the device. Both those items are sold on geekbuying and the "EU plug" version is about ten euro cheaper than the MK908 you started this thread about.
any updates on this yet? Are there any uk suppliers?
Just got this from geekbuying--going to pick it up next week. Psyched. This is my first android pc stick, finally took the plunge after seeing some preliminary videos and knowing that finless will come out for it eventually.
I'll let you all know how it goes!
mk 908 low score?
I get a score of 14000 in antutu which is low for a rk3188 at 1.6ghz i saw in no-frills cpu control in the view stats part shows that its only running at 1008mhz. Im guess its running some where in between 1.6ghz and 1008mhz because when i force a force clock of 1008mhz it only scores 11000 in antutu. I think this score of 14000 in antutu is low since tablets which run the rk3188 at 1.6hz get 18000 and at 1.8ghz get 20000. Is there any custom roms out there with cpu value controls? Will roms of other rk3188 devices work?
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I get a score of 14000 in antutu which is low for a rk3188 at 1.6ghz i saw in no-frills cpu control in the view stats part shows that its only running at 1008mhz. Im guess its running some where in between 1.6ghz and 1008mhz because when i force a force clock of 1008mhz it only scores 11000 in antutu. I think this score of 14000 in antutu is low since tablets which run the rk3188 at 1.6hz get 18000 and at 1.8ghz get 20000. Is there any custom roms out there with cpu value controls? Will roms of other rk3188 devices work?
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Don't concern yourself with antutu scores just yet. Device just came out so firmware will have to get tweaked. Do you see any issues with the device rather than lower than usual antutu score?
If everything is working well I would suggest to wait a few months until this stick gets proper ROM support.
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Don't concern yourself with antutu scores just yet. Device just came out so firmware will have to get tweaked. Do you see any issues with the device rather than lower than usual antutu score?
If everything is working well I would suggest to wait a few months until this stick gets proper ROM support.
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The wifi signal seems pretty weak even though im right beside my router and it still cuts out all the time, but I am waiting for a micro usb to rj45 adapter to hard wire it anyways.
Is it possible to use Netflix
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Yes, netflix works.
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Can you get the play store on this?
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Settings erased
Hi
i got this device a couple of days ago. I noticed that when you reboot it or shut it down, the settings are reset to default. Is there a way to maintain android settings for this device even after reboot? Thanks
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i got this device a couple of days ago. I noticed that when you reboot it or shut it down, the settings are reset to default. Is there a way to maintain android settings for this device even after reboot? Thanks
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I wanna know this too, it reset time and everything to default. The date reset back to 1971. I did check on carrier set time and it helped on date but not on time.
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Maybe try a factory reset? Might order one of these as well
Dont buy this thing... Its rather underwhelming.
It does not ship with xbmc and you cant use the current stable version because it crashes... you have to get a mirrored link for a special build from geekbuying via email which takes a week.
There are two OTG cables in the box... I can report that at least one of them is not suitable for flashing roms. I had to use an old moto cable.
its not 1080p yet.
even if they do release an update to make it push 1080, the processor doesn't seem to have the gonads to decode 720p content without at least some chop so I cant imagine 1080 ever looking good.
the stock netflix looks like crap even with solid wifi connection. the xda HD hack might fair better though I have not tried it yet
yes the play store works. yes it is rooted with SU out of the box.
Overall, I kinda think it sucks.
Does anybody have MAMEreloaded 139 installed? If so, could you please test out Dead or Alive +? That game plays slow on Tegra 3, A6X, Snap 600 and every other chipset tested. Even with speed hacks activated. Basic laptops did not start playing that game smooth with MAME until about three years ago. 3D games with no gpu assist use the cpu for the work.
The roms needed to test are doapp.zip (the game) and tcs.zip (the bios). If this plays smooth, that would mean Soul Calibur has a shot too. I doubt it will play smooth, since extra cpu power means more heat and battery power. Perhaps we are at diminished returns until 20 nM chipsets are released to offset the heat issues for more cpu power for apps. Point being, the Snap 600 cpu benchmarks are double that of the Snap Pro dual, but the speed increase for Dead or Alive was about 10% at best (still far too slow).
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Does anybody have MAMEreloaded 139 installed? If so, could you please test out Dead or Alive +? That game plays slow on Tegra 3, A6X, Snap 600 and every other chipset tested. Even with speed hacks activated. Basic laptops did not start playing that game smooth with MAME until about three years ago. 3D games with no gpu assist use the cpu for the work.
The roms needed to test are doapp.zip (the game) and tcs.zip (the bios). If this plays smooth, that would mean Soul Calibur has a shot too. I doubt it will play smooth, since extra cpu power means more heat and battery power. Perhaps we are at diminished returns until 20 nM chipsets are released to offset the heat issues for more cpu power for apps. Point being, the Snap 600 cpu benchmarks are double that of the Snap Pro dual, but the speed increase for Dead or Alive was about 10% at best (still far too slow).
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You know: If you want people to help you then write more.
So, what is MAMEreloaded 139? A DreamCast emulator?!
sontin said:
You know: If you want people to help you then write more.
So, what is MAMEreloaded 139? A DreamCast emulator?!
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I would have thought anybody that is a "true" gamer (typical Shield buyer) would know what it is
It is an arcade emulator that is free in then Play market. Android version of MAME.
I tried it with MAMEreloaded and a Dead or Alive ROM, but it looks like the emulator only uses one core, so it's wicked slow. More of a software issue than the Shield not having enough power.
with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
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with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
Time will Tell
I'm curious to see how the nexus player develops
but right now I'm satisfied with the firetv I got XBMC on there and all my repos
so right now I'm good
I agreed, It probably locked bootloader and unless Google changed their mind letting us have a unlock bootloader = addicted flasher custom ROM. I might email some google developers and see what their response regard the bootloader status.
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
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While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
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100% sure? Google TV and Chrome products have been locked down. ChromeBook and Chromecast. This device is called a Nexus, and i cant name one Nexus device that is locked down. Even my nexus q was easily unlocked!!! Even though i can see them locking the device i disagree with the level of certainty you have (100%)
Skater4599 said:
While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
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Less Ram: Good point, but one of the android forums mention this wont be a problem with the intel chip. Time will tell.
lack of hardwire ethernet: the fire tv has FastEthernet which is limited by 100, Wireless N gives fastethernet a run for its money and this device supports AC. Way faster than fastethernet.
I will be giving it a shot I think. Need an extra unit for the bedroom TV anyway. Will wait to see if it is rootable first though I think
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Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
retroben said:
Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
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This is only one device released by google, nvidia could release their own android tv device along with htc, samsung, acer, asus, motorla, hisense.... Etc... Even though i doubt nvidia will release a box since they already sell an nvidia shield tablet (which doesnt support dts pass through). Even though im sticking with my firetv i am interested to see others join. Especially if this pushes amazon to properly support vc1, 24p, 4k, dts-hd/truehd, 802.11ac.
I don't think you guys are remembering exactly what "Nexus" means. It means do whatever you want to the device.
Yes the Nexus 7 was locked but they made it easy to unlock for us to mod. The whole nexus line is the play ground line if you want to mod and have fun with your device.
I for one am going to be jumping ship because quite frankly, Amazon has, and always will be, absolutely garbage when it comes to making anything interface related. Their app sucks, their web interface sucks, their amazon fire TV interface sucks, everything they design is garbage when it comes to UI.
I've had a blast with this device but with them locking it down...no bueno.
As per the wireless worry, it's 5GHz AC. If you're doing anything that's going to be able to tax THAT, having an ethernet cable isn't going to save you.
Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
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Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
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Not exactly. Bootloader is still locked.
Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
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Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
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1 GB is fine. Unlike phones we wont be multi-tasking as much. The Nexus Player will mostly only worry about the active application which is why 1 GB will be fine. As for the CPU its an Inel Atom which has been shown to run as fast as a Snapdragon 801, for comparison sakes the FireTV uses a Snapdragon 600.
Its not exciting enough for me to jump over to it. My AFTV is doing everything i need right now, not to mention the lack of ethernet is a deal breaker. Unless wireless AC has come down quite a bit in the last few months, Im not ready to make that move.
Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to have to really WOW me to get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
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Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to really WOW me get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
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the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
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the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
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Would love to see one with OTA Antenna & PVR built in. Would be the perfect machine. For now a rooted FireTV will be the best for the price.
I'll wait for the actual user reviews to start showing up before I make a final decision, but at this point I'm leaning toward no. The biggest drawback to the FireTV for me is lack of storage. 8G is just not enough, I will not buy another FTV game until an official firmware update includes support for USB drives. Just a wild guess, but I suspect the Nexus Player has this same limitation. I'm willing to wait a bit longer and pay a bit more for a different Android TV box with better specs and hardware support.