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First Xperia Z review knocks S3 off the top spot

The first of many reviews has just come out, expect more over the next few hours/days:
http://www.stuff.tv/review/sony-xperia-z
Looking very very good so far, though surprised that the S3 took slightly better photos.

MaskedMagi said:
The first of many reviews has just come out, expect more over the next few hours/days:
http://www.stuff.tv/review/sony-xperia-z
Looking very very good so far, though surprised that the S3 took slightly better photos.[/QUOTE]
Stuff also mention the viewing angles could be better, but i think they are just being picky.
Overall a very positive review.
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Stamina Mode makes me want this phone even more but I'f I throw CM10 on there then I lose that option...

recklesslife85 said:
Stamina Mode makes me want this phone even more..
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They claim that with stamina mode on, it drained ~1% of battery overnight... if that's true that means we'll have amazing battery life for those who use it more like a phone ( as in not very intense )

People i am sony fan,
But dont compare 2013 phone with one of 2012.
Wait for new samsung flagship and then we can compare.
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electrash said:
People i am sony fan,
But dont compare 2013 phone with one of 2012.
Wait for new samsung flagship and then we can compare.
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you're missing the point. They are comparing the phone which also means if you loved the S3, then you won't be dissapointed. It is a measurement to some on how much they may like a device. It isn't a boxing match between the two as we all know the specs on the XZ is far superior.

electrash said:
People i am sony fan,
But dont compare 2013 phone with one of 2012.
Wait for new samsung flagship and then we can compare.
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And when the SGS4 comes out it's no longer fair to compare it to the XZ, but instead you need to wait for the next thing from Sony, and so on. The XZ is going to be almost 4 months old when the SGS4 comes out. Consumers don't want to compare things that are unknown, but what is available at the moment of purchase, and right now the XZ is a better phone than the SGS3.

Sv: First Xperia Z review knocks S3 off the top spot
Reviews are mostly BS. I seen the Z at CES, ordered one... simple.
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Q.Entity said:
Reviews are mostly BS. I seen the Z at CES, ordered one... simple.
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^^^ This

Toss3 said:
And when the SGS4 comes out it's no longer fair to compare it to the XZ, but instead you need to wait for the next thing from Sony, and so on. The XZ is going to be almost 4 months old when the SGS4 comes out. Consumers don't want to compare things that are unknown, but what is available at the moment of purchase, and right now the XZ is a better phone than the SGS3.
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they should compare it to note 2, but overall the ZL is still looks like a all around better device, its 5" screen brings to closer to note 2 yet at much higher resolution and yet the phone size is even smaller than note 2 little brother the s3. Only one fully revealed contender is the m7, or the droid dna or butterfly j that are both already out.

Toss3 said:
And when the SGS4 comes out it's no longer fair to compare it to the XZ, but instead you need to wait for the next thing from Sony, and so on. The XZ is going to be almost 4 months old when the SGS4 comes out. Consumers don't want to compare things that are unknown, but what is available at the moment of purchase, and right now the XZ is a better phone than the SGS3.
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I dont says that xz is not good, i think is wonderfull, and i dont like s3.
But is somehow stupid to compare to old device (when xperia s comes out, they compared it to s2).
Keep comparing to new devices. Even if Z or S4 win, dosent mather, cuz i will go for xz.
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Xperia Z already beats sgs4.
It won't have touchwiz.
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Q.Entity said:
Reviews are mostly BS. I seen the Z at CES, ordered one... simple.
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True for most sites...
But reviews from respectable sites like: Anandtech.com / GSMarena.com
Who actually objectively test things like sound quality, camera quality or power consumption instead of just giving opinions or marketing BS are really necessary addition.

Sony will announce Z2 at MWC

Sony will announce Z2 at MWC
http://t.co/6xbmXW9VfD
Ready for upgrade?

This really ticks me off, we just get the Z1 and Sony bang a new phone on the scene straight away.

ready for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
come one baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the first time in my life, I don't feel the need to upgrade. The Z1 is good enough.

They said the z1 will remain this years flagship so I doubt it will be a z2 hopefully its a mid-high end device
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AFAIK there was article on Sony blog, that Z1 will continue as flagship into 2014. It wouldn't make sense to announce new flagship so soon after Z1. I think they will wait a little bit longer before announcing new flagship
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It's just a speculation!

nb31b said:
For the first time in my life, I don't feel the need to upgrade. The Z1 is good enough.
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I am also thinking the same about the Z1.
Bought the S2 in 2011 and used it untill the HTC One X came out in 2012. The camera was very disappointing from the One X, so this made me swap to a S4 and the S4 I hated the looks, the feeling was good with it but still that plastic is horrible. After 3 months the S4 died on me and the mainboard was dead after it came back from repair sold it right away and waited about 1,5 months for the Z1, I wanted to go for HTC One but the camera made my decision very difficult and I convinst my self to wait for the Z1.
So the Z1, it has his issues and I got one what didn't have a yellow hue problem but there are still some tweaks needed from Sony to take out some bugs/issues with the phone. But I think it looks good, it does everything what I want to do with a phone and it is waterproof.
So for me I will stick with the Z1 for at least 2 years I think, I saw some concepts from the S5 it played with the voices in my head to buy it if it will look like the concepts, so anyway I hope not and it will be a ugly phone again.

Announcing and releasing the actual device can span over several months.
I would love it if they announce the Z1 replacement because by the time it reaches Australia it would probably be June/July, just in time for a new device

Kirkymole said:
This really ticks me off, we just get the Z1 and Sony bang a new phone on the scene straight away.
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The Z1 came out in September. The Z2 won't be out till summer most likely. That's almost a full year, like every other device including iPhone and Galaxy phones which come out every 8-12 months also.

Well, if Z2 is satisfy my needs, I'll jump in.
Thinner benzel.
IPS display
3GB of RAM
Larger sensor size
Better image algorithm
Bigger battery
5 or 5.2 inch is fine to me.
Z1 design.

How much you guys wanna bet it wont be Z2?
during the release of Z1, we had proper leaks a couple of months before... like we already know that it will be s800 chipset, 20mp camera, 3000 mah battery... we just don't know how it will look yet. we had leaks of the camera quality, we had leaks of the build id etc... we also had the honami home screen leaks...
for sirius I dont see any of that... just people pulling crap out of the air... its the same people panicking last December about the rumous that Z2 is coming out on CES lol turns out it was just Z1s with plastic sides lol!
it will not be a Z2, It will be a Z1R or Z1L...

Kirkymole said:
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Right they should hold back because you bought a new phone. Hope they release a new version every 6 months.
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This is the actually Leak inTwitter:
"Sony Sirius (2014 flagship) tipped for MWC debut: 5.2-inch display, MSM8974AB SoC, and a home on Verizon in the US."
Does not say anything about Z2, does not say anything about bigger battery etc.... but one clue is that it will have a home in Verizon...
how people want to bet this will be like the Z1s for T-mobile?
I have a feeling this will be the specs:
yes 5.2 inch screen lesser bezels, but it will not be waterproof... more plastic, then everything else is the same as Z1, S800 chipset, 20mp camera, 3000 mah battery... maybe a 32 gb internal storage...
not Z2 worthy!

I think the Z2 will be released around August/September
And announced around june/july
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Morlock O said:
This is the actually Leak inTwitter:
"Sony Sirius (2014 flagship) tipped for MWC debut: 5.2-inch display, MSM8974AB SoC, and a home on Verizon in the US."
Does not say anything about Z2, does not say anything about bigger battery etc.... but one clue is that it will have a home in Verizon...
how people want to bet this will be like the Z1s for T-mobile?
I have a feeling this will be the specs:
yes 5.2 inch screen lesser bezels, but it will not be waterproof... more plastic, then everything else is the same as Z1, S800 chipset, 20mp camera, 3000 mah battery... maybe a 32 gb internal storage...
not Z2 worthy!
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yes, i think it will be another Z1 variant for verizon in the US only

Is likely to be epic fail. Because a large OLED production has not yet been established, but IGZO is old h..ly sh..t
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But if there will be:
Japan Display 5.2 FullHD OLED screen
The thin bezels
Oleophobic coating (without skin)
Optical stabilization
it will be the perfect smartphone and the best smartphone in 2014

Wow, great news!!..
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Kirkymole said:
This really ticks me off, we just get the Z1 and Sony bang a new phone on the scene straight away.
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This is what the Z people must have thought when the Z1 came out. No flagship gets upstaged in just six months, its usually a year. I could not believe at the time that Sony would do it so soon.
Thing is how many of them jumped ship ? i don't think too many.
S600 + 2GB RAM is still good enough for a lot of things and even a year from now should be ok.
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whatwhatster said:
I am also thinking the same about the Z1.
Bought the S2 in 2011 and used it untill the HTC One X came out in 2012. The camera was very disappointing from the One X, so this made me swap to a S4 and the S4 I hated the looks, the feeling was good with it but still that plastic is horrible. After 3 months the S4 died on me and the mainboard was dead after it came back from repair sold it right away and waited about 1,5 months for the Z1, I wanted to go for HTC One but the camera made my decision very difficult and I convinst my self to wait for the Z1.
So the Z1, it has his issues and I got one what didn't have a yellow hue problem but there are still some tweaks needed from Sony to take out some bugs/issues with the phone. But I think it looks good, it does everything what I want to do with a phone and it is waterproof.
So for me I will stick with the Z1 for at least 2 years I think, I saw some concepts from the S5 it played with the voices in my head to buy it if it will look like the concepts, so anyway I hope not and it will be a ugly phone again.
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Do you get the feeling that the rate of innovation that used to be linear since 2010 is kinda plateauing ?
What will Z2 have ?
bigger screen ? so what
bigger battery ? so what
different design ? ..
more ram ? ...

One Twelve said:
This is what the Z people must have thought when the Z1 came out. No flagship gets upstaged in just six months, its usually a year. I could not believe at the time that Sony would do it so soon.
Thing is how many of them jumped ship ? i don't think too many.
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Do you get the feeling that the rate of innovation that used to be linear since 2010 is kinda plateauing ?
What will Z2 have ?
bigger screen ? so what
bigger battery ? so what
different design ? ..
more ram ? ...
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Yes innovation seems to be staggering year by year, if you want a true upgrade to a flagship device these days you'll have to skip a version everytime(S3 to S5 for example)
smartphones already reached their maximum size also(anything bigger than the Z ultra is just Madness)
The good thing about this is that maybe Manufacturers will start focusing on improving battery technology, that would be the next big step for smartphones
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Are you going to sell your Z1 and get a Z2?

Now that the Z2 has been fully revealed, I was wondering how many Z1 owners were thinking of switching to the Z2 once it comes out. Both are so similar specs wise that for some it wouldn't make sense to make the leap.
For me, I'm probably going to stay with the Z1. The display is the only thing drawing me to the Z2 but I can't justify paying so much money just for better viewing angles. The rest of the software features like 4K recroding and tap2wake are going to be ported to the Z1 officially or through the devs so the gap between the Z1 and Z2 will be very small.
Thoughts?
note: This is only for people thinking about getting the Z2, and not another phone

The Z2 is a good choice for those who are coming from other brands.
I think it's not worth to sell our Z1 and get the Z2 (well if you want to always have the latest phone, go) as spec wise there is little improvement on the hardware. Lets wait for Z3 and see what it will offer.
Currently happy with my Z1, just the camera brings disappointment. Peace
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Hell no. I don't see any major upgrades that could justified the change.
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Well I was thinking about this too and here is my opinion: SONY has huge problems with phone overheating starting from S, Z, Z1 .. Almost all the phones have small defects for example camera button is very loose and it's a bit hard to take a picture without handshake on keypress, then my volume button became very strange it's like going to fall of, when I slightly press on it it feels like it was outside and then returned to its position, I mean that SONY has to think about build quality rather than releasing new flagship twice a month But from the other side there are no normal phones, I was thinking of Nexus 5 and G2 but I didn't like G2 UI and Nexus 5 Camera because it takes strictly 4:3 ... And as usual I'll say that I wont buy SONY again but probably will buy SONY

Sony makes new flagships all the time... perhaps i will wait a couple of flagships before i buy another one

No way! I have to keep my money for nearly a year to get Z1. LOL. I'm very happy with Z1 tho, it's a decent device. There are a lot of proud and pride for having this device. Z2 don't have too big differences compares to Z1 tho, I think stick with Z1 and wait for new generation of Z family (perhaps Z3 or Z4) will be the best choice
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This upgrade is mainly for Original Z users
The upgrade for us Z1 users is coming by the end of the year, im pretty sure
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If sony gives most software features then No, but if sony dont give features then my z1 then probably
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no point
i will probably wait for Z3, and if that thing doesnt have decent developer support after a month or two i am going with whatever nexus phone is out by then.

I'm thinking about it since the Z1s may or may not get root. There's a few people working on it. But, for me, I'm thinking of the possibility of us not getting root. I'd sell my Z1s to help by the global Z2. With the Z1s coming out about a month ago. Is it reasonable to ask for $500 or could I go higher?
Anybody know for sure whether or not the global phones will work on T-Mo USA's data bands?

albertobom said:
Hell no. I don't see any major upgrades that could justified the change.
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Agree! :good:

kantk20111 said:
Now that the Z2 has been fully revealed, I was wondering how many Z1 owners were thinking of switching to the Z2 once it comes out. Both are so similar specs wise that for some it wouldn't make sense to make the leap.
For me, I'm probably going to stay with the Z1. The display is the only thing drawing me to the Z2 but I can't justify paying so much money just for better viewing angles. The rest of the software features like 4K recroding and tap2wake are going to be ported to the Z1 officially or through the devs so the gap between the Z1 and Z2 will be very small.
Thoughts?
note: This is only for people thinking about getting the Z2, and not another phone
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Not Upgrading to a Z2, because,
1. I don't care about 4K, althoughit may be ported in the future. I hardly record video's in 1080P ...
2. Marginal Performance difference with a slightly faster Adreno 330 isnt. There is nothing available on the Playstore that needs more performance than a 2.15 Krait 400 with a 450 mhz Adreno 330 can deliver anyway.
3. Camera stuff will probably be ported in the future, even if it isn't I'm not fussed about it. It's just icing on the cake.
lol,
4. Don't care about Viewing angles because I look at my phon straight one, not at an awkward angle,
lol,
5. the pixel density is actually higher on the Z1, it's sharper,
6. another 200mah on the battery is a joke over he Z1's 3000mah ...
regards

Hey guys... no ASF on the Z2. I'll update later as to what type of glass. I'll be making plans on switching.

negrobembon said:
This upgrade is mainly for Original Z users
The upgrade for us Z1 users is coming by the end of the year, im pretty sure
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Hope so,
anything less than a Snapdragon 805 processor and Adreno 420 isn't gonna cut the Mustard ...
hope they make the phone a bit smaller, otherwise we'll end up with a phablet at this rate ...
lol,

Nope.
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raziel123 said:
Not Upgrading to a Z2, because,
lol,
5. the pixel density is actually higher on the Z1, it's sharper,
regards
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Agree with most of your points, but the display of the Z2 is a lot better than the Z1's. The loss of sharpness is negligible, but the new IPS screen tech is less washed out than the Z1's TFT screen.

They didn't even did something about those borders around the screen, OIS for camera or something that worth thinking about an upgrade. Small improvements compared to my beloved Z1. It's not worth buying a new flagship at least until a year or two.

Mine is two weeks old. So I wont buy a new one. I'm not a millionaire and I'm absolutly satisfied with this one!!!!
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Never!!!!!!!
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Not a chance.
I find it a waste to upgrade to the Z2 if you already own a Z1.
I think that the Z2 will be the perfect phone to upgrade to if you are coming from another OEM, or you are coming from an Xperia device from 2011/2012.
Our Z1 is more than up to the task and in time it will have a community comparable to the flagships that came before it, like the original Xperia flagship, the X10 :highfive:

Why did you choose Xperia Z2?

Hi all, refer to the above let's discuss why you choose xperia z2 compare with others device.
is it because the design, Spec, price, sony fans or others.
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Simply because it's the best flagship on the market at the moment.

S5 sucked balls. It will be Z2 unless HTC suprises us with a monster in about 1 month.
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Just saw ARTICLE about new IPS screen and Sony finally have great and quality product.
I'm completely satisfied with my Z1 but if I get some interesting offer (like I got for Z1) I'll definitely try it.
Why?
Because, now, Z1 is ultimate device and Sony just upgraded it
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Because the Z2 is the best on the market just now, S5 rom is 8Gb compared to the Z2's 4Gb, plus Z2 has way more excellent specs. I don't care that Samsung maybe releasing a 64bit S5 later this year as I think it is too early for me to get into 64 bit phones just now; as infrastructure etc is not in place yet i.e. app devs have yet to jump on board. That is my opinion anyway...

Waterproofing
Micro SD slot
Front facing speakers
Great camera
And thankfully a big battery
Also simple things like a camera shutter button make this the best phone on the market atm.
BTW, would not touch the S5. The design combined with touchwiz is enough to put me off.

I had a Z, ZL and now Z1. Logical to have a Z2 next.
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Lost faith in Samsung with there handling of s3 updates plus had problems with them regarding other Samsung products. Been a fan of sony for a while now and its coming close to my phone upgrade and the Z2 currently looks like it. I have a few months to go so plenty of time to judge the competition and see what negatives might crop up about the z2.
As long as root is easily gained with minimal drawback Ill most likely be picking up the z2.
Plus the specs of this phone do look pretty good to me

Bigger battery, nicer look, wanted something that wasn't made by Samsung for once.
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Eye friendly...
I am one of the small amount percentage of population who seems to suffer from LED's displays... Sony triluminos display tech, seems to be benign on our eyes. At least sony Vaio Pro 13 and flip are better displays... This issue has years... Hope Z2 is really eye friendly to me too...
Seems spectrum of light of triluminos technology is more balanced. Not a huge blue spike on spectrum...
Here you could see a thread talking on LED's:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1677617?start=0&tstart=0
My HTC One is killing my eyes...
Cheers...

xz2
because of this past year i cannot trust Sony easily!
i love to buy Xperia Z2 IF all thing about display & ... be right!
if no two quality of display!
sharp display! jdc! OR all story like those!
It s ok if sony s using different company for display supplying BUT not different quality from each company.
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My first phone was the Motorola RAZR V3i and have been a loyal user since then with Moto Droid & Moto RAZR... just loved the premium build quality along with excellent specs. Beauty with brains! Loved the design of Xperia Z & Z1 but was hesitant to switch due to the screen quality as I'm spoiled by AMOLED on my RAZR.
But the Z2 seems like the only phone to be awesome inside & out with no drawbacks to give me second thoughts why not to buy it... (Size was a little concern but I can live with that)

It's either the htc one 2014 or z2. I'm going to buy on tmobile 's jump program if i do decide to get one of these puppies. The phone addict in me wants the latest and greatest, but honestly don't "need" one just yet since I have the N5.
I expect by Fall, everyone will update their SOCs with 64 bit cpus. Also hope that finger print unlock and pw will be supported more widely. Not to mention waterproof and 3GB of ram. These will be must have options.

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It's either the htc one 2014 or z2. I'm going to buy on tmobile 's jump program if i do decide to get one of these puppies. The phone addict in me wants the latest and greatest, but honestly don't "need" one just yet since I have the N5.
I expect by Fall, everyone will update their SOCs with 64 bit cpus. Also hope that finger print unlock and pw will be supported more widely. Not to mention waterproof and 3GB of ram. These will be must have options.
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I also want to see what htc will bring to the table. I doubt it can match sony. Also would need a case since you can't get protection on the alu back.
I don't really see a need for 64 bit systems. What do you see 64 bit bring? Do phones need a new OS to match it? Will support for old systems stop?

We might not need it in the consumer space, but it's one of those things where if you can get it as a little to no-cost option, why not? I can envision a bunch of enterprise use cases like big data analytics and data visualization, not to mention phones/phablets/tablets with > 4gb of ram etc

I'm currently on a htc one x, my contract has 2 weeks on it, so I started looking. The galaxy s5 is a massive fail in my eyes, and I'm just getting bored with HTC. As soon as a saw a leak of sense 6 I knew I'd be bored. I'm going to miss BlinkFeed, but the look of the Z2 and the specs, plus noise cancelling and stereo speakers, as well as the camera (going on a once in a lifetime holiday in August), coupled with an sd card slot and waterproofing (11 pools in the resort), I think it'd be a crime not to go for the Z2. I am worried about the size a little bit, even tho I have big hands.

I have the HTC one and have very little complaints about it and the 2014 version looks promissing but that panel that used to have the capacitive buttons on it is still there but now it's just a logo. Idk why they would keep that. I hate wasted space and big bezels and I think the Z2 once I get Cyanogenmod running on it would be amazing

because the first android phone that i used was sony
sony phones are great in price , support in my country and dev's are supporting them great
and the most important one because sony phones are blazing fast and their software is useful and they don't have useless futures that only make your phone slower and they will eat your ram as hell
thats why i decided to buy sony z2

I love the design,
I love the software,
I love the camera,
I love the build quality,
I love the bigger battery,
I love front facing speakers,
And 3gb of Ram which the s5 don't have (besides I got the note 3, I dont need any more Samsung devices for now)
The Z2 and the note 3 will do me for now

mujj said:
Waterproofing
Micro SD slot
Front facing speakers
Great camera
And thankfully a big battery
Also simple things like a camera shutter button make this the best phone on the market atm.
BTW, would not touch the S5. The design combined with touchwiz is enough to put me off.
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All of the above + 3GB RAM is what sold me. It should also make this phone relevant for a while. Can't wait for the Z2 to arrive!

So I had a z3 for a week z2 vs z3 differences. Almost none! Except for design

Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinner than the z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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ajftl said:
Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinker than three z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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Agree! Small update over Z2. With 4.4.4 Z2's battery performace will be as good as Z3.

And if Z2 gets good update to 4.4.4 (at it definitely will), differences will be even harder to see
But, as we said few times already - Z3 isn't here for Z2 users.
It's aiming to Z and Z1 users...

The fact that both devices are mirror images of themselves was known the day the specs of the z3 got confirmed.
Most of the differences are software based and that will narrow significantly once the z2 gets updated.
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Good thing I went with the Z2 three weeks ago, I saved 150 euro ?
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Jiyeon90 said:
Good thing I went with the Z2 three weeks ago, I saved 150 euro ?
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I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!

stanley08 said:
I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!
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What he was trying to say is that he prefers the z2 at €150 less. Makes perfect sense to me. Who wouldn't?
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zodiac100 said:
What he was trying to say is that he prefers the z2 at €150 less. Makes perfect sense to me. Who wouldn't?
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Yh. Is quite a margin i must confess. Tempting really. But here in West Africa, when a newer device comes the older one gets a HUGE price drop and resale value is almost nothing. Well. Speaking from my own point of view. I resell my devices. But anyways, i was never gonna upgrade to the Z3 anyways.. Even Z4 not sure, i want to see what M9 looks like. I think i prefer my devices stay a flagship for a whole year
P.S: You said 'He' but i think it's a lady. Lol.

stanley08 said:
Yh. Is quite a margin i must confess. Tempting really. But here in West Africa, when a newer device comes the older one gets a HUGE price drop and resale value is almost nothing. Well. Speaking from my own point of view. I resell my devices. But anyways, i was never gonna upgrade to the Z3 anyways.. Even Z4 not sure, i want to see what M9 looks like. I think i prefer my devices stay a flagship for a whole year
P.S: You said 'He' but i think it's a lady. Lol.
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I'll second that. I'm no fan of Sony's 6 month nonsense either. It's got me thinking of trying the s6 next year. Don't trust htc on the camera front. Their phones have never had good cameras and that's even before ultrapixels bull****
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zodiac100 said:
I'll second that. I'm no fan of Sony's 6 month nonsense either. It's got me thinking of trying the s6 next year. Don't trust htc on the camera front. Their phones have never had good cameras and that's even before ultrapixels bull****
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Lol. Exactly why I want to see what they have to offer really... But Z4 might be good tho. Oh well... Only time will tell

stanley08 said:
I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!
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Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
Quick Edit - I see by your signature that you have unlocked your bootloader. Have you seen any difference in the Camera or other DRM protected apps since you did it? Also, I take it you backed up your TA? Was it easy to do?

ianrobbie said:
Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
Quick Edit - I see by your signature that you have unlocked your bootloader. Have you seen any difference in the Camera or other DRM protected apps since you did it? Also, I take it you backed up your TA? Was it easy to do?
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Unlcoked bootloader, didn't backup TA. Camera is better than HTC M8, I'm not a photographer. So I'm living Happily ever after.

hehehe saved my pocket too! Will stay on Z2 until Z5 which most probably will be a copy of Z4

ianrobbie said:
Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
Quick Edit - I see by your signature that you have unlocked your bootloader. Have you seen any difference in the Camera or other DRM protected apps since you did it? Also, I take it you backed up your TA? Was it easy to do?
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There is definitely a difference in picture quality, especially in low light pictures. Backing up the Ta partition is easy though. You just need to root first. Can restore at any time.

I was scared to get the z2 in July not knowing what the z3/next version would be like. I'm glad to hear I didn't make a totally horrible decision.

Does it really give you 2 days battery life?

ajftl said:
Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinner than the z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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Hmm, i disagree. The differences are noticeable, but not enough to get envious of Z3 owners. Source: Wife has one and I set it up for her.
4.4.4 will address the differences in the software. Flashlight on quick settings, many more headphones listed in audio, etc
The screen is brighter and whiter, with precisely the same Nova settings on wife's z3 and my z2, hers is noticeably quicker and responsive - I'd say 10% quicker.
I have to say, I am jealous of the build quality - the covers on the side are recessed a little, so removing the phone from a pouch doesn't dislodge them occasionally.
Once 4.4.4 comes along, I'll be very happy. I bought some STH30 earphones and was disappointed that my z2 doesn't list them. Wife's z3 audio is much clearer than mine with the same headphones. Software no doubt, but she has the STH30 phones listed and it makes the difference somewhere.
The phones are different. In a lot of ways.

MichaelWT said:
Hmm, i disagree. The differences are noticeable, but not enough to get envious of Z3 owners. Source: Wife has one and I set it up for her.
4.4.4 will address the differences in the software. Flashlight on quick settings, many more headphones listed in audio, etc
The screen is brighter and whiter, with precisely the same Nova settings on wife's z3 and my z2, hers is noticeably quicker and responsive - I'd say 10% quicker.
I have to say, I am jealous of the build quality - the covers on the side are recessed a little, so removing the phone from a pouch doesn't dislodge them occasionally.
Once 4.4.4 comes along, I'll be very happy. I bought some STH30 earphones and was disappointed that my z2 doesn't list them. Wife's z3 audio is much clearer than mine with the same headphones. Software no doubt, but she has the STH30 phones listed and it makes the difference somewhere.
The phones are different. In a lot of ways.
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how about the battery performance? is it noticeably better on the z3?

rotsloeh said:
how about the battery performance? is it noticeably better on the z3?
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Z2 and Z3 battery is different too. We both always get 7hrs screen on time, but wife plays *a lot* of games.
Last time we both compared, I was impressed with my 8hrs screen on time (6% batt left) and she was 10% battery up and at 8hrs46 screen on time. Not sure what she did with it those 2 days uptime though, but gaming in there no doubt.
Hope we get the z3 battery algorithms in 4.4.4!

I can't get 8 hours screen on time because if my screen is on, I'm transmitting data. I use my phone only for phone calls or chatting (sending pictures, videos, taking pictures and sharing them, etc). I get about 5-6 hours of screen on time which is just FANTASTIC in my opinion! I'm on the Z2 by the way.