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constantly dropping service

I've had my wizard (cingular 8125) for just a little but over a year, but this past month I've had some abnormal issues with it.
I've dropped this phone a few times, but randomly this past month I have noticed a severe amount of service dropping in different forms.
Sometimes I'll be on the phone and it will randomly drop and start searching for a signal, in a well serviced area. Sometimes I'll be texting, and it will have service(2-6bars, enough for texting) but it will refuse to send the message, and when I try to call, it says invalid sim, and I have to reboot.
Sometimes If I am lucky, when the service drops it will pick it up within 20 seconds, it can take up to 5min, and sometimes I have to restart it.
This phone has been stock up untill this problem started (no rom flashing/anything) I tried unlocking it and trying different roms on it recently as a last ditch effort to fix this annoying problem. If anyone knows of a solution to this problem, I'd be really appreciative of it, otherwise im getting a new phone

While my first instinct is to convince you to sell me your otherwise functioning phone on the cheap, I must resort to being the good guy (or else get spanked by the mods...)
There is a registry fix for the kind of signal dropping you're describing. I'm surprised you went for so long without experiencing the problem. I did almost right away when I got mine last year. You should try it first, if you haven't already...
I think this is the one I used:
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/fix_drop_calls

i don't think its a Rom problem,as signal reception is not depended on the Rom,its an OS,rather its more depended on the Radio Rom (GSM) of the phone.Usually,by upgrading the Radio Rom improves the signal reception quality.Instead of flashing different roms,try to flash different Radio Roms and check if it improves the signal quality.
But,here,I think,perhaps,the problem lies more on the hardware part then the Radio Rom. as you say,it has been dropped a couple of times,it may be the the External Antenna cover has lost proper connection with the Internal antenna connection.Check the fastening clips which snap in to secure the External antenna cover to the internal are properly secured in and have not come off, are not loose or broken,which might be causing it to not having proper connection.
Cheers!

Well i tweaked those settings and tore this baby apart, and honestly the service was dramatically improved for this entire week, untill thursday, when service began dropping and it began to start telling me my sim was invalid. So I'm kinda lost here, it seems no one else has had this type of issue....
And on a sidenote I am unable to connect to gprs or edge to send pictures via mms. I noticed this after I started flashing different roms, so I think its software related. I did however download that .cab package floating around that has all the cingular media net settings. But when I try to send a picture my phone just seems kinda lost lol

bump!
I reflashed the rom to the official htc cingular rom, and that fixed the edge/gprs issue, but service is still bad.... Id like to try some different radio roms before totally giving up hope on this thing, but this site has seem to take down its ftp.... anyone have any wizard radio roms uploaded? preferably ones that work well with cingular/ at&t here in the US.... thanks

bump... guess no one has any ideas=(..... but since the ftp is back up ill try some radio roms

My touch hd keeps dropping calls

Hey,
Has anyone else had problems with their HD suddenly cutting of calls even though there is good network coverage? I can have 5 bars of network on the phone, receive a phonecall, talk for a while, then suddenly have the bars drop to 0 and the call being ended. It's getting really annoying at this point.
Also I think the speed of the surfing through network (gprs/edge/hsdpa) has slowed down; it feels as if it doesn't really establish a great connection with the network.
Please tell me you've had this problem and that it's a software issue that is fixable!

Its your 3g network that is dropping calls. I have same problem.
Go to settings, phone and then choose the band tab. Change network from Auto to GSM.
Solves all problems.
I have poor 3g in my home. At home I use gsm mode and when i go back out i switch to auto - 3g mode.

Or it might be because of an old SIM card. If you had yours for a couple of years for example, it might be time to ask for a new one.

i've actually had my sim card for ages, gonna try to order a new one and see if that solves it, thanks for the tip

Let us know!

got the HD and it droped calls all the time. My SIM-card was 5 years old. after changing it worked a lot better but not 100%. Solved that after disabling 3g (bad 3g rec at home), now it works as it should no more dropped calls.

You know.. it would be ideal to have an app that could be assigned to a button press that switches the 3g on and off without needing to go into settings all the time.
I don't use the 3g stuff all that often (mostly wifi) and gsm is fine for sending texts and making calls. Not so sire about mms though.
To be alle to switch it on and off would be ideal and could be used in conjunction with other software to schedule locations or times that would auto switch.
Anyone know of any thing?

i have got the same problem. I have sent my hd to manufacture on warranty. I still waiting on my phone, i let you know what is going on when it will be back to me.
P.S.
sorry about my english

Desperate
Hello to all,
I am having completly same issue with my touch hd.
Expierincing line drops, other side hear me badly or not at all. I tried to update radio roms to 1.09.25.35 and 1.10.25.25 , but ittis the same. Also tried updating ROM to DUTTY HD 1.7.,but it was the same. My network is MTS in Serbia.
Than, I changed finding netwotk to manual, and type of band to GSM (900+1800) UMTS (2100), same result . It looks that this helps a litlle, since I expierence less drops, but I am still unavliable sometimes. Also since my gsm card is 7 years old, I was adviced to change it what I did as well.
This brought even more results, but today, after 5 days of good work in one place (with good reception of 3G) I travell to another city, and you may guess, It started happen again.
All the way phone was loosing signal, calls were droping or even I was unable to make any calls as well.
I am so desperate, and will have to return it to a dealer, although it was my last option...

My was the same problem but it was fix
After I installed couples of upgrade my HD from HTC website and I recieved too many drop call so I uninstalled all the Hot fix . Now every work back to the normal way

Tried that as well, made 2 times hard reset, but no help.
Anyway I had only ine hotfix installed the one for keyboard lag.
I had imprssion in the begining that my problems started with new connection manager database (hotfix that was automaticly installed), but after hard reset everything repeated, so that was not the case....

Same problem here! Total nightmare, is there any possible fix for this or is it just poor quality gsm bits in the phone? Mine picks up such lower signal than any other phone ive had

Ryanmt said:
Same problem here! Total nightmare, is there any possible fix for this or is it just poor quality gsm bits in the phone? Mine picks up such lower signal than any other phone ive had
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Ryanmt, It looks that GSM module sucks...Everything else is superb, but, after all this is a phone, isn't it?
I reversed to original ROM (403 WWE), and RADIO ROM (1.09.25.14), removed HardSPL, and now waiting for asome bright idea to try...
I give myself 7 days before waranty claim...
CORRECTION: I left mine HD for warantty today (11.02.), will report on...

Mine went back for warrenty also. Mine went back due to a faulty screen but i noted down it had major signal issues too.
Have you had any update?

I am still waiting for mine. Don't know how long usually takes. Any expiriences?

djurkash said:
I am still waiting for mine. Don't know how long usually takes. Any expiriences?
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Im still waiting now is 24th day, but i had sent by carphonewarehouse next time i will send straitgh to htc because cpw is not good.

24 days !? OMG, I hope I won't be that luck. I gave mysef my HD directly to official distributor (same place wher I have bought it) here in Serbia, this is 5th day since I have left it...

HTC told me 5 days from when they receive it.

Sent mine away also
I was experiencing the same problems, even when I had signal it was impossible to call someone(not always but it happends sometimes) and for some reason my FM Radio wasn't working.. I'll try to keep you all informed, if it helped to sent it back to htc..

sounds like htc might be collecting a nice pile of phones with the same symptoms. I wonder if that will prompt them to release a fix of some sort

Phone Constantly is losing Signal

Hey guys i have had some issues with my cell phone lately (hd2 tmous).
3-4 times a day i lose my signal completely and the only way to get it back is to restart the device. Sometimes my device even displays
I have tried using different radios as well no luck
that the simcard has been removed, i have tried everything
also it happens whether im at home, school or work, i live in an area that gets great reception so that should not be the problem.
messing with the band to keep it at gsm only
reverted back to auto
removed and replaced sim card
hard reset, new rom, stock rom, i always task29 before new rom as well
does this happen to anyone else, any ideas on what the problem may be?

A factory reset with formatting the memory is on the cards I think

johnerz said:
A factory reset with formatting the memory is on the cards I think
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i just received a new sd card and it used to happen with my old formatted one, im not sure that would work? although it wouldnt hurt to see if it happens without the sd card in it.

It happens to me. Maybe a few times a week, though it will regain signal after a minute or few minutes. Sometimes I toggle the phone option off/on. Maybe that helps or maybe not. Rarely do I have to power down the phone, though I have done it a couple of time when I'm in a hurry.
It used to happen more often with the stock ROM from April of this year. Since I've upgraded a couple of times, it's gotten better. Hopefully the latest 3.14 ROM has fixed it some more.

have you complained to tmobile??? Maybe you need a new phone.

jfmckenna said:
Hey guys i have had some issues with my cell phone lately (hd2 tmous).
3-4 times a day i lose my signal completely and the only way to get it back is to restart the device.
does this happen to anyone else, any ideas on what the problem may be?
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Browsing between topics of the H2 this one came to my attention.
I have exact the same issue! I also had it with my htc diamond. I moth ago when I received my HD2 (non branded) I thought it would be over. But no. it keeps losing signal. Freakingly annoying. I called tmobile (Netherlands sins i am from the Netherlands) and they would send me kindly enough a new sim.
But still…. The same issue.
I also did a hard reset, new ROM (cant go back to 1.33) and tried another phone. I gather it is a htc issue and some bad luck.
I didn’t had the error sim removed.

ok so i went about half a day with the sd card out and when i woke up this morning no signal again.
I gave t-mobile a call and explained to them what was going on. I was transferred to a pda/smartphone specialist, although i would say that any xda community member was more knowoledgeable than this rep. Anyway she asked me a couple of questions said there were no known issues and that i will receive a replacement phone and sim in 7 days and to return the old one phone. Hopefully with the new phone and sim i wont have this issue, im guessing they think its a hardware related problem. It bugs me that cheap crappy phones have no problem holding a signal and my top of the line hd2 does but lets hope had a faulty connection or something.

jfmckenna said:
ok so i went about half a day with the sd card out and when i woke up this morning no signal again.
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Your problem (most likely) lies with a bad combination of Rom and Radio.
I know you have tried several radios, but you simply missed the compatible one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614119
see my posts in that thread.
apart from my provider having problems every now and then, I have not lost my connection again after flashing the right Radio.

reijkelhof said:
Your problem (most likely) lies with a bad combination of Rom and Radio.
I know you have tried several radios, but you simply missed the compatible one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614119
see my posts in that thread.
apart from my provider having problems every now and then, I have not lost my connection again after flashing the right Radio.
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i have tried both the 2.13 stock rom radio and then the stock 3.14 combo both did not work.

resolved
received the new phone 3 days ago, so far have not lost service. It must have been a hardware issue with my phone. im using the same radio rom as the old phone except no signal loss, for anyone who is having the issue it may be worth calling tmobile to exchange your phone for a new/refurbished one.

My Omnia 7 keeps loosing it's 3G connection

My Omnia 7 keeps loosing it's 3G connection. To restore it I have to restart the phone. T-Mobile say that this happens from time to time, but it's happening every day now. It's annoying as it stops my push email from being up to date, and of course prevents the use of any internet based services until the phone is restarted.
Has anyone else noticed their phone has switching to GSM?

Had mine for 6 days.Been fine up until today,then I had the same problem.Only the once so far.

Confirm loosing 3G
Confirm loosing 3G connection, and also have phone call failures.
Factory reset did not solve the problem.
Bring it back to shop
Blackstone is back now!

At first this was occasional with my phone, then more frequent, and it's all the time. If I want to use the Internet I have to restart the phone. My house is covered by full HSPA, but the only way to get it is to take the battery out while the phone is switched on. I can sometimes get 3G by a simple restart, which I lasts about 40 minutes.
I like the phone, so I'm going to hold out for a software update. All it needs to do is check available networks and I think that, if this is a wide spread issue, Samsung/Microsoft will fix it. Hope so.
Please post here if you have this issue too.

I have also been having this issue... sometimes it doesnt come back straight away when i restart it but after about 10mins its back.
When I activated it with orange I was told to expect a few txt msg's that would need deleting and the phone restarting... I only got 1 msg, maybe this has something to do with it, maybe the phone hasnt been sent enough updates.

I also have this issue and have done for weeks. Orange couldn't solve it either.
It only happens overnight at home. I either need to reset the phone / rescan available networks or turn flight mode off and on again for the connection to restore.
I was thinking it may be an issue with t-mobile since it only happens at my home where orange signal is poor and i roam over to t-mobile.
If i stay in an area with good Orange signal i don't get the problem.
Good to know i'm not the only one with this problem. It's very annoying!

Hi y'all.
I had the same problem: 3G was lost every time. I was fed up restarting the phone every time, so I looked for another way to get 3G back. I found out that disabling and enabling SIM security (phone > setttings) got me 3G again... for a short while.
But: after disabling SIM security permanently, 3G kept on going (in fact for over a week now).
I think that changing the PIN to some other number, might cause this. I haven't yet tried changing it to the default PIN again, to see if using that for SIM security solves it. For the moment I'm too happy it works again.

I have suffered from poor reception issues ever since I got my Omnia 7.
It seems like the reception comes and goes. I will receive e-mails, which proves that the phone has been connected, but as soon as I try to use data myself, by visiting a web page or refreshing an app like facebook, the reception disappears and the "no reception" symbol drops down from the status bar.
Also, often when I try to send an SMS, it will appear to have been sent, yet 10 minutes later I will receive a "Can't send...try again" message. Once I have received this, the SMS will never successfully send. However, in the meantime I can receive SMS messages, which shows that the phone has been getting a signal.
This is SO frustrating and is ruining my experience with the phone.
I have posted requests on the Microsoft Answers forum and the only suggestions have been to reset the phone or turn WiFi off. Neither of these have had any effect. I have never enabled SIM lock.
I have heard that there is a firmware update due soon which includes a new radio stack. I am desperately hoping that this will improve the situation, as at the moment I cannot rely on my Omnia 7 as my only phone.
Alex.

Hi Loco,
You are right in saying that social answers doesn't really help much .
Luckily there IS a new firmware from a couple of days ago! Check out the Omnia 7 Dev section. There are only a few posts.
And here is also a good link for you. You are right to assume that it comes with a new radio stack which improves on performance.
http://wmpoweruser.com/new-samsung-omnia-7-firmware-and-news-of-a-keyboarded-omnia-8-leaks/

Finally found a thread on this... I have been having a similar problem since I got my phone from Optus here in Australia. I took it back and they replaced it for me but the new phone is exactly the same. I don't lose the 3G icon but anything data related just ceases from loading. Right now I'm trying to refresh the Facebook app and it just comes up with 'Unable to connect', even though I have full 3G reception.
I flashed it to the newer leaked firmware and it hasn't changed anything, problem still persists unfortunately. This is a major problem that isn't getting enough attention! It seems quite widespread and Omnia 7 specific.

Had similar problems, but after I changed my provider ( O2-Germany), 3G is stable.

For the people having this problem, have you tried setting the phone to prefer 3g? Details of how to do this are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915813

johnnymatrix said:
Finally found a thread on this... I have been having a similar problem since I got my phone from Optus here in Australia. I took it back and they replaced it for me but the new phone is exactly the same. I don't lose the 3G icon but anything data related just ceases from loading. Right now I'm trying to refresh the Facebook app and it just comes up with 'Unable to connect', even though I have full 3G reception.
I flashed it to the newer leaked firmware and it hasn't changed anything, problem still persists unfortunately. This is a major problem that isn't getting enough attention! It seems quite widespread and Omnia 7 specific.
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Same here man. On Optus and my reception sucks with this device. What the hell is samsung doing? FIX IT!

I have been having this problem with my Omnia 7. The frustrating thing is this is a replacement phone I had for an LG which I had replaced THREE TIMES due to random resets. So now I have a phone that I have to turn off and on EVERY MORNING in order for the data connection to start working again. Needless to say I am very frustrated. I am on Orange in the UK. I suspect it could be related to when being an a poor reception area and it tries to switch to tmobile. I am going to try turning roaming off. Please, if anyone finds a solution to this let me know.
Thanks

m4tthall said:
I have been having this problem with my Omnia 7. The frustrating thing is this is a replacement phone I had for an LG which I had replaced THREE TIMES due to random resets. So now I have a phone that I have to turn off and on EVERY MORNING in order for the data connection to start working again. Needless to say I am very frustrated. I am on Orange in the UK. I suspect it could be related to when being an a poor reception area and it tries to switch to tmobile. I am going to try turning roaming off. Please, if anyone finds a solution to this let me know.
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My problem got worse with the Mango update. I'm now on my 2nd handset after having a replacement from Orange warranty. This one still loses it's connection but much less frequently.
TBH i don't think it will ever get fixed. I started an MS Answers thread months ago and lots of people had the same problem but we never got a response from MS.
Conisdering the age of the model now I doubt Samsung care, well they didn't seem to care a year ago so they won't now... For this reason I will not buy another Samsung phone. It's infuriating.

Looks like I am stuck with it until December then when I can upgrade to a Nokia lumia. A long wait :-(

i have this issue, too.. but for me i only have to set airplane mode on and off. sometimes i deactivate data connection, go to a random website, get the 'no connection' error, then activate data connection back and it works.
however, after installing the latest drivers & firmware, i get this issue A LOT less frequent. like once in 2-3 days.
i hope ms or samsung will fix this because it can get really annoying. especially when you need eg. a quick google-search..

Just flicking the flight mode wouldn't be so bad but that doesn't work for me, I have to restart the phone each time. I love WP7 but this and the other problems with the LG is driving me nuts. Almost wondering whether I should have just followed the crowd and gone for an iPhone.

m4tthall said:
Just flicking the flight mode wouldn't be so bad but that doesn't work for me, I have to restart the phone each time. I love WP7 but this and the other problems with the LG is driving me nuts. Almost wondering whether I should have just followed the crowd and gone for an iPhone.
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Same as me - Flicking flight mode on-off doesn't solve it, needs a soft-reset.
Like I say, there are quite a few with Omnias on Orange with this problem.
I'm in the same boat, I've had this for months now so I guess I'll just deal with it until I can upgrade the start of April and get a Lumia (hopefully the EU 900/910 will be here by then!). There is no way on this earth Samsung are getting any more of my money. Nokia seem fully commited so they can take my cash next time!

I have the same problem with the data stopping working on o2 in the UK. But I also sometimes cant receive calls even though the phone has service, then there are the times where it site there going GPRS/3G/3G+/No Service and you cant do anything with it apart from pull the battery.

any vodafone customers in living in mumbai here?

Okay so I have this issue with my phone / operator. the calls keep dropping. it's really annoying. also, most of the times I can't dial and receive calls (the caller just gets the "the vodafone number you have called is currently unavailable message").
I googled this error and found a few threads spread across various forums and turns out the issue is restricted to users of Galaxy 3 who have opted for vodafone and who live in Mumbai. now this is sort of a weird issue, but it sucks that all I satisfy all the above three criteria.
Anyway, previously I was running eclair when this issue started and I went to the Samsung service centre and they updated my firmware to Froyo and the issue got solved. For a month and a half.
Now it has started again, no matter which ROM i use. I haven't tried the stock one again, though. But after running Kyrillos (which i flashed today, and so far I'm absolutely loving it. Thank you, dude!) I don't feel like reverting to stock ROMs. And besides, this issue was not present initially on InDroid. It only started three days ago.
Also, I seem to have misplaced my bill (and hence no more warranty for me). And the Samsung service centre charges 450 bucks for a simple firmware flash, so that I would like to keep as my last resort. And the person at the help desk specifically told me that they do nothing other than just updating the firmware. So I don't think it's a hardware issue.
Any suggestions as to what I should do? Btw, for those of you who aren't Indian, Mumbai is a famous city in India.
EDIT : oh also, it seems that turning the data network mode off helps some people (including me, so far). but I have a torrent downloading client constantly running in the background so preferably I'd like to keep the data network mode on.

Your solution is hidden inside ur question only... when you data connection is constantly ON, you phone can go unreachable for users many times who r calling u... this is a very general problem in G3.. and i am not surprised wid that... that's y i keep GPRS off most of d time and use only when required... Just remember GPRS is the only problem your having wid you.. flash any firmware either by urself or by service centre... problem will remain d same.... so better dont use torrents atleast and you'll feel improvement...

But when I upgraded from eclair to froyo the problem went away for a month and a half or so. Now it started coming back again. Why should data connection and receiving calls be connected? I have noticed that when I make a call the edge/3g sign goes away meaning I can't operate both at the same time.. but are you also facing the same problem even in Delhi?