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I'm a new Android user and loving all of the options out there in terms of Kernels, ROMS, etc, but I find myself being overwhelmed with all of the options out there. So far I'm pretty set with running franco Kernel (running r20 right now), but I find myself always wanting to try out new ROMs, and I'm hoping that doing all of this switching around isn't going to mess up my device but I just can't nail myself down to a ROM that I'm set with.
I had been running CM 10.1 nightlies, but just recently a couple of days ago I jumped over to MiNCO because of the support for franco Kernel.
Now I find myself looking at the Xylon ROM but am worried that jumping around from ROM to ROM is going to mess with my device.
What ROMs are you guys using, and why are you using them? I find myself that the most important factors for me are battery life/performance, quick toggles, and the power menu.
I havean EVO 4G LTE .. ever since i got the o.g. EVO I was hooked on them. But I use a stock with goodies Rom by flex. Its a great rom has everything I need and its super smooth
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I generally stick to CyanogenMod. I keep an eye on the changelog and flash new nightlies when things I want are merged.
I've messed with AOKP and MIUI in the past but they're not really for me.
Cyanogenmod 10.1 Jellybro because it has everything I need and is clean code (no dirty hacks). Used to be a fan of aokp but too many dirty code and unicorns for me.
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clean code (no dirty hacks).
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cm is my favourite rom, but thats not really the truth what you say. in order to stuff in tons of devices that normally do not run aosp they have to stretch the base wide open with hacks. this is the hackiest rom in the android scene and it must be, otherwise people out there wouldnt know what android is. thats why cm traditionally never had so much traction on this plattform than on others, simply because uncompromised aosp is leaner and more optimized for android itself and the nexus plattform. on a legacy device i'd always suggest cm, thats obvious. on nexus cm may not be the obvious best choice anymore, because the others are likely faster, more stable, have less daily fallouts, and in some cases have more features, like aokp, if youre the kind of guy that likes that sort of thing. if i flash cm here, its because i like their creative/inventive spirit and would like to support the project overall. flashing is easy though, trying out a couple of em isn't that much of a problem. (-:
Paranoid android. Not even considered any other ROM since I flashed this one. Its just so amazing. I couldn't live without all the colours that change per app, and all the other features it has.
I suggest trying it out now.
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With my previous device, s2, I changed a lot, from RR to AOKP to CM etc etc, I like them all.
On my N4, I'm using stock until a really good-good ROM comes out, I don't have any problems, other than battery, so I don't panic, YET.
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With my previous device, s2, I changed a lot, from RR to AOKP to CM etc etc, I like them all.
On my N4, I'm using stock until a really good-good ROM comes out, I don't have any problems, other than battery, so I don't panic, YET.
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Yeah other than battery issues everything else is a "nice to have" and nothing I "absolutely need"
I've been on xylon w matrix kernel
For battery customization and speed.
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For me its PA rom....Ive tried every rom because I love flashing lol....but this is an honest opinion from experience....I know best rom talk is not allowed but the best to me is PA rom because of one simple reason....other than stock...its perfect!!!! And with that being said I have No issues with it very stable..super fast...alot of features man I can go on and on....if you want your N4 running perfect go PA...there are some other good roms because we have alot of elite devs in here and im sure more are on the way...but to me theres nothing better than super wiping your phone just to make sure its really clean and flashing PA...all you can say is wow after that lol......and now I change roms everytime Moles and his crew update PA....and also flash Franco kernel with this and your N4 will be excellent....
I'm currently on liquidsmooth. I've tried rasbeanjelly, Xylon, codefirex, CM 10.1, MinCo and a few others I can't remember. All were great. I'm really like liquidsmooth. It's a great balance. I flash, sometimes 3 times a day.
Setup: Code FireX w/ Faux beta
CFX is the first non-stock ROM that I decided to try because it uses the Linaro chain and I was pretty curious about the speed.
Long story short, CFX's performance is apparent as soon as you start using the device, it had much needed improvements.
Oh, and did I mention the CFX settings? Synegye's special built in mods allow you to improve your experience even more. For instance I decided to use the 6 signal Wi-Fi/Network, center clock, smaller Nav Bar, as well as dual view. This package, when combined with Faux's kernel presents you with an unbeatable experience on the best Android experience to date.
Ace42 said:
Setup: Code FireX w/ Faux beta
CFX is the first non-stock ROM that I decided to try because it uses the Linaro chain and I was pretty curious about the speed.
Long story short, CFX's performance is apparent as soon as you start using the device, it had much needed improvements.
Oh, and did I mention the CFX settings? Synegye's special built in mods allow you to improve your experience even more. For instance I decided to use the 6 signal Wi-Fi/Network, center clock, smaller Nav Bar, as well as dual view. This package, when combined with Faux's kernel presents you with an unbeatable experience on the best Android experience to date.
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That sounds pretty intriguing, I think I just found the next ROM that is going to get flashed on my N4.
Nice discussion. Very interesting.
via Google Nexus 4
For reliability and just the right amount of mods for me it's been CM on any device I've owned 90% of the time. It's the least buggy for me, although of course, there will be the occasional bug along the way. Works beautifully on the the Nexus, although some mods may take longer to merge as other devices have to be taken into account.
Can't think of any "hacks" needed for CM to run on any Nexus, although much hackage needed for it to run on Samsung branded phones, and any other manufacturer that doesn't ship with AOSP and may be slow to release source. The kernel for the GN was less than impressive, but the N4 kernel is great.
Running stock rooted. Going CM 10.1 as soon as I get back home from vacation.
Skickat från min Galaxy Nexus
Stock with Franco kernel and you got the most stable combo ever seriously though. Feels very snappy while battery is great but also is really stable.
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I am flashing between a number of Roms daily. Change between cm 10.1, aokp, paranoid, slimbean, codefire. Currently on paranoid b9. I love the options we have on the nexus. It would be a lot less hassle for me if I don't have to restore my texts everytime. Still I pretty much flash a different ROM daily
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Stock with Franco kernel and you got the most stable combo ever seriously though. Feels very snappy while battery is great but also is really stable.
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+1 for stock with Franco.
No stable (official stable) roms out there yet that I like, and since n4 is my primary phone, I need my stability :/.
Probably will switch over to AOKP milestone or CM stable.
On past devices I've run with CyanogenMod (any variation), but on the Nexus line I tend to prefer staying with a stock ROM and a custom kernel (though I'm stock presently) for the sake of cleanliness. CyanogenMod is great, it's built by trusted developers, and all around well known for their great reputation. On the flip side, I tend to stay stock because I need to help other people out often enough that I start to forget which features were added by the CM team and which come with Android itself.
Hey I just ordered my nexus 4. Just a quick question, which custom rom most resembles the stock one that the n4 comes with but with better tweaks and battery life?
Coming from an s3 and I've always used a touchwiz based custom rom.
So I would like to stay with the rom that most is similar to the one the n4 comes with. Ty
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Probably Primerunner under Nexus 4 Android Development. Seems pretty stock but with some enhancements.
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MiNCO v6 ROM resembles the stock ROM. No customizations.
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All of them resemble stock. They're all themed the same, it's just a matter of added features while maintaining the same look as stock.
I don't get what you're trying to get at op. It's not like s3 roms where everybody is trying to theme their rom. A lot of roms on n4 aren't themed, some are but most are left it's holo look.
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zephiK said:
All of them resemble stock. They're all themed the same, it's just a matter of added features while maintaining the same look as stock.
I don't get what you're trying to get at op. It's not like s3 roms where everybody is trying to theme their rom. A lot of roms on n4 aren't themed, some are but most are left it's holo look.
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I guess... From a stability point of view... To be as stable as the stock.
I've ran cm10.1 and cm10...Along with some other aokp roms on my s3 before and of course it's not as stable as the stock tw rom.
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Minco
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All the ROMs should be very stable since they are all based on the same AOSP code. This is very different from a non-Nexus phone where custom ROMs might be less stable.
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Don't want to create new thread so will ask here as I'm also coming from S3...
Are the any major bugs with CM rom? With the S3, Picassa sync and Bluetooth didn't work...I'm assuming with the N4 everything should be more or less 100%?
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All the ROMs should be very stable since they are all based on the same AOSP code. This is very different from a non-Nexus phone where custom ROMs might be less stable.
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Yeah that makes sense... Thanks.
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I guess... From a stability point of view... To be as stable as the stock.
I've ran cm10.1 and cm10...Along with some other aokp roms on my s3 before and of course it's not as stable as the stock tw rom.
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Well the difference is that this is NEXUS device and is AOSP supported. So 99.9% of the ROMs that come out for this phone are stable. They're not stable on the S3 for AOKP/CM right away because they have to actually do work to make it work; whereas, N4 is AOSP supported and its like.. BAM! it works out of the box. As for S3, the phone ships out with TouchWiz. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP requires work to make everything work.
I'd say CM/AOKP are pretty stable overall. All ROMs are stable. This is one of the many benefits of having a Nexus device and I don't believe in when people are wanting to upgrade and people say "oh just get a S3.. it doesnt have latest but just flash a custom rom and you'll be on latest android) no it doesn't work that way just because of like what you said... instablity. When Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) comes out, N4 will be one of the first devices to launch with it and we'll have the most stable ROM day one without having to rework code to make all the functionalities like calling, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, Screen Rotation, Data, etc to work (I know on other phones, people release dirty ROMs and things like what I listed don't work as of yet until its fixed)
Shopping for a ROM/Kernel is like shopping for a car. Some tips to take,
1) Browse the original and android dev forums. Search around and look for whats interesting.
2) Find it interesting? Read OP post and the past 6-7 posts (dont even read it.. skim through it for feedback)
3) Like what you see? Check for screenshots or even a YouTube video
4) Still like it? Flash it and try it
and most of all, ENJOY.
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Well the difference is that this is NEXUS device and is AOSP supported. So 99.9% of the ROMs that come out for this phone are stable. They're not stable on the S3 for AOKP/CM right away because they have to actually do work to make it work; whereas, N4 is AOSP supported and its like.. BAM! it works out of the box. As for S3, the phone ships out with TouchWiz. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP requires work to make everything work.
I'd say CM/AOKP are pretty stable overall. All ROMs are stable. This is one of the many benefits of having a Nexus device and I don't believe in when people are wanting to upgrade and people say "oh just get a S3.. it doesnt have latest but just flash a custom rom and you'll be on latest android) no it doesn't work that way just because of like what you said... instablity. When Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) comes out, N4 will be one of the first devices to launch with it and we'll have the most stable ROM day one without having to rework code to make all the functionalities like calling, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, Screen Rotation, Data, etc to work (I know on other phones, people release dirty ROMs and things like what I listed don't work as of yet until its fixed)
Shopping for a ROM/Kernel is like shopping for a car. Some tips to take,
1) Browse the original and android dev forums. Search around and look for whats interesting.
2) Find it interesting? Read OP post and the past 6-7 posts (dont even read it.. skim through it for feedback)
3) Like what you see? Check for screenshots or even a YouTube video
4) Still like it? Flash it and try it
and most of all, ENJOY.
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Great reply... awesome, makes a lot more sense now. Thank you. I can't wait til my N4 arrives : )))
I've been reading at other threads about people complaining about quick battery drain and the screen not looking too good... I hope that isn't the case with me.. but I'm pretty sure a custom rom and kernel can fix all of that.
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Great reply... awesome, makes a lot more sense now. Thank you. I can't wait til my N4 arrives : )))
I've been reading at other threads about people complaining about quick battery drain and the screen not looking too good... I hope that isn't the case with me.. but I'm pretty sure a custom rom and kernel can fix all of that.
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Quick battery drain. Hmmmm, you will probably notice that battery won't be good until at least 2-3 charge cycles. Why?
1. You just got the phone, obviously you're going to be playing with the phone. Downloading apps, changing settings, setting up your home screen etc.
2. It takes time for the phone to get its charging cycle.
3. Stock kernel has the msm wakelock. Fixed in a future OTA.
Screen looks great. I don't have any problems. But yes you are right, custom kernel does fix #3 and you can alter your colors until it satisfy your eyes. Stock values are good enough for me. It looks A LOT better than Samsung's Super AMOLED, I came from a Galaxy Nexus.
Hi,
I' m new Nexus 4 users. I used Galaxy S3 and install cm 10.1 to my s3. I buy Nexus 4 because I like real android but now I'm not sure about root/install my Nexus 4. Because Nexus 4 is real android (UI). What is your advice and idea?
I came from the Galaxy S and the Galaxy Note and ran custom ROMs on both, honestly some of them were buggy (specially the note) and now that I been using the Nexus 4 I haven't rooted yet because I am enjoying stock android plus key lime pie is just around the corner, my advice is to run it stock, enjoy KLP and maybe rooted later.
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I stayed stock because it's my first time having a true stock phone. Might go ROM route in the future, but haven't seen anything that makes me need to.
I want to keep stock rom but I like some features on cm 10.1 Sometimes I said let's root and stop again huhh
selimozbas said:
Hi,
I' m new Nexus 4 users. I used Galaxy S3 and install cm 10.1 to my s3. I buy Nexus 4 because I like real android but now I'm not sure about root/install my Nexus 4. Because Nexus 4 is real android (UI). What is your advice and idea?
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If you can't find a reason to root, then you have your answer.
I wanted to adjust my quick settings tiles, install themes and have a T9 dialer, therefore I rooted and flashed. Everyone is different.
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I came from the Galaxy S and the Galaxy Note and ran custom ROMs on both, honestly some of them were buggy (specially the note) and now that I been using the Nexus 4 I haven't rooted yet because I am enjoying stock android plus key lime pie is just around the corner, my advice is to run it stock, enjoy KLP and maybe rooted later.
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Since the Nexus 4 is in AOSP and the majority of the ROMs are compiled you won't have the rampant bug issues here. Just an FYI.
i rooted, and keep stock, then after a while i flashed a new kernal, i wanted root, for a few reasons, like block ad's t9 dialer, but yeah stock rom is good for me.
Run it stock and revisit if/when you notice something lacking. The factory images are great, and I happily run stock when new images drop.
You've run CM10.1 so you know what custom ROMs can offer. Typically custom ROMs can/will be much less buggy on a Nexus since AOSP typically doesn't face any issues on this device.
Thank you for the answers. I think i keep stock rom. Maybe future...
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For all of you that are on stock theirs a ROM that's truly worth trying it called liquid smooth
i get amazing speed,smoothness,awesome battery life ,and infinite customization i have tried just about every ROM
on and its my favorite.
As much as stock is decent I dislike it, no T9 and such. Rooting allows me to install a custom rom and root apps. I generally lower the height of the navigation bar to gain more screen estate, and such, they run just as well as stock.
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Thespmex13 said:
For all of you that are on stock theirs a ROM that's truly worth trying it called liquid smooth
i get amazing speed,smoothness,awesome battery life ,and infinite customization i have tried just about every ROM
on and its my favorite.
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You are right. I tried more custom rom on sgs3 but i like real android so i sell my sgs3 and buy nexus 4.
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Check out Paranoid Android 3+ (link is in my signature. IMO best custom ROM out there.
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I flashed a few ROM's already but I went back to stock with a custom kernel.
But I have to admit the liquidsmooth rom keeps calling me back. I might just make that my daily runner.
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I flashed a few ROM's already but I went back to stock with a custom kernel.
But I have to admit the liquidsmooth rom keeps calling me back. I might just make that my daily runner.
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I agree with you man ive flashed a couple roms and went back to stock with custom kernel buy i tried liquid smooth with matrix kernel 8.5 and wow ive been blown away so smooth and EXCELLENT battery life you should try its my daily driver now lol
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I agree with you man ive flashed a couple roms and went back to stock with custom kernel buy i tried liquid smooth with matrix kernel 8.5 and wow ive been blown away so smooth and EXCELLENT battery life you should try its my daily driver now lol
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Since I have the my Nexus I am running CM 10.1 M3, I am moreless satisfied, but I should try Liquid ROM
Have you been on CM any time - to compare these ROMs?
I was on stock for like forever I didn't see the point of changing, what else could I possibly need?
Then I installed LiquidSmooth. Wow. Dunno how I did without it, plenty smooth, fast and customisable.
Do a nandroid and try it, you'll not regret it!
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Spec-Chum said:
I was on stock for like forever I didn't see the point of changing, what else could I possibly need?
Then I installed LiquidSmooth. Wow. Dunno how I did without it, plenty smooth, fast and customisable.
Do a nandroid and try it, you'll not regret it!
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Considering how many people recommend the superb LiquidSmooth how the heck can it only have 2 votes here? And one of them is me!
Come on guys and gals, visit their thread and rate 5 stars to give it the recognition it deserves!
nexus is the only device where you wanna install a rom. legacy rom scene is rom hell, we're talking hacks, ports, mashups, frankenstein roms made of bits and pieces to get around missing sources and whatnot.
nexus is supported by google, that means developers get to compile actual aosp. google supplies tools, drivers, kernels, blobs, pretty much everything. a developer that compiles here basically creates stock android. and instead of pissing away time with hacks you can actually make features and worry about things that matter. its unlikely to create severe bugs unless you really try hard to mess with androids internals. some extra features may not be cooked through but thats the same with stock and its revisional bugs.
Hi all,
So I just upgraded from a GSIII to the GS4. I wasn't planning on it, but it happened. I didn't particularly want the S4, but now I have it. It's very slick, thin, screen is brilliant. Honestly, I didn't like the screen on the SIII, I preferred the screen of the E4GT even though it was smaller.
Anyways, I am rooted and flashed AOKP Milestone 2. It's very nice, seems stable. I was on CM10.1.2 nightlies on the GSIII.
I know they are both AOSP based, but I wonder how they compare otherwise? I read some reviews of some showstopper bugs with CM10.1 builds for this phone, so I went with AOKP.
Now, I know the S4 has IR, and I know that it is not supported on any AOSP ROMs. I didn't have it on the SIII so I likely won't miss it. What do you guys think.. is support coming? Is this something we'll eventually see in upstream AOSP? Or is this a Samsung only thing that we'll have to wait for someone to port over from TouchWiz?
Other than that, it seems to me I just now have a faster, bigger, thinner Galaxy.
I really like AOSP so hopefully the extra features will come along for the S4. I don't really like the look of TW ROMs altogether.
I hear the IR blaster is being worked on for AOSP and was even working on liquidsmooth. If you want any TW features you might want to keep an eye on the Google Edition ROM because it actually runs the tw framework and can have features added. Here is the GE ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2345386
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I hear the IR blaster is being worked on for AOSP and was even working on liquidsmooth. If you want any TW features you might want to keep an eye on the Google Edition ROM because it actually runs the tw framework and can have features added. Here is the GE ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2345386
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Interesting. I'll definitely keep an eye on that one.
Hi all,
1st post in this forum, I have a samsung s3 and am forever flashing custom roms, have a chance of getting
a nexus 4 cheap-ish and will have to get rid of my s3 to pay for it. But have a couple of questions.
1 - Will i notice a big difference in speed, battery use and camera?
2. Is it easy to root and install custom roms?
I quite often flash cm/aosp roms on my s3, and although they have come a long way, still have the odd problem because of
samsung closed sources, have flashed ported kitkat 4.4 roms and they are a big improvement but still???
At the moment running Liquidsmooth aosp and its then best ive tried but still get the odd stutter on my 1gb ram based S3.
So anybody got any advice should i go for it?
cheers
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Hi all,
1st post in this forum, I have a samsung s3 and am forever flashing custom roms, have a chance of getting
a nexus 4 cheap-ish and will have to get rid of my s3 to pay for it. But have a couple of questions.
1 - Will i notice a big difference in speed, battery use and camera?
2. Is it easy to root and install custom roms?
I quite often flash cm/aosp roms on my s3, and although they have come a long way, still have the odd problem because of
samsung closed sources, have flashed ported kitkat 4.4 roms and they are a big improvement but still???
At the moment running Liquidsmooth aosp and its then best ive tried but still get the odd stutter on my 1gb ram based S3.
So anybody got any advice should i go for it?
cheers
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1. speed yes 2 gb ram on nexus 4 does better at multi tasking , battery A BIG NO , camera wise s3 is better
2.yes takes less than 5 min
display , n4 has **** washed out screen colours on default kernel , if you use hells doctor kernel it will look noticeable better
jock11 said:
Hi all,
1st post in this forum, I have a samsung s3 and am forever flashing custom roms, have a chance of getting
a nexus 4 cheap-ish and will have to get rid of my s3 to pay for it. But have a couple of questions.
1 - Will i notice a big difference in speed, battery use and camera?
2. Is it easy to root and install custom roms?
I quite often flash cm/aosp roms on my s3, and although they have come a long way, still have the odd problem because of
samsung closed sources, have flashed ported kitkat 4.4 roms and they are a big improvement but still???
At the moment running Liquidsmooth aosp and its then best ive tried but still get the odd stutter on my 1gb ram based S3.
So anybody got any advice should i go for it?
cheers
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Speed -Yes, Battery - maybe, Camera - No
Yes, its very easy.
With android 5 assured, you should go for the Nexus 4.
jock11 said:
Hi all,
1st post in this forum, I have a samsung s3 and am forever flashing custom roms, have a chance of getting
a nexus 4 cheap-ish and will have to get rid of my s3 to pay for it. But have a couple of questions.
1 - Will i notice a big difference in speed, battery use and camera?
2. Is it easy to root and install custom roms?
I quite often flash cm/aosp roms on my s3, and although they have come a long way, still have the odd problem because of
samsung closed sources, have flashed ported kitkat 4.4 roms and they are a big improvement but still???
At the moment running Liquidsmooth aosp and its then best ive tried but still get the odd stutter on my 1gb ram based S3.
So anybody got any advice should i go for it?
cheers
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You can get the N5 for around 200 bucks on ebay. I'm using both(N4 and N5) and I can totally recommend the N5 for Android enthusiastics. But the N4 is fine too.
I would go for the n5 for just a bit more money.