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Hi,
just wanne know wich formats the device play surely?
I know that it will play .mkv with h.264 anf 1080p .....
but and thats a very very big but....
Whats about watching full movies?
The Tab only supports FAT32 and files over 2GB are not supportet, how does this fit together ? Doesnt make any sense to me.
What about you?
Tried a little and as you say, large files can´t be added.
But 720p mkv works flawlessly.
For one thing its 4gb, not 2. And this still leaves you with a lot a hd files to watch. If something doesnt work, try vplayer alpha.
Played everything I threw at it so far. I use vplayer and the video app (the video app can play most filetypes and I use it whenever possible, its quite nice).
I tried mkv, divx, mp4 (h264 / h263), wmv and flv. So you are pretty set with these two apps when it comes to videos. vplayer had sync problems with 720p but the samsung app played it flawless.
shaggles said:
Played everything I threw at it so far. I use vplayer and the video app (the video app can play most filetypes and I use it whenever possible, its quite nice).
I tried mkv, divx, mp4 (h264 / h263), wmv and flv. So you are pretty set with these two apps when it comes to videos. vplayer had sync problems with 720p but the samsung app played it flawless.
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Its not about the player but about the filesystem wich cant handle murch more than 4 gig files
NightFire123 said:
Its not about the player but about the filesystem wich cant handle murch more than 4 gig files
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The standard user-accessible filesystem pretty much ANY device will be formatted as FAT32 which has a 4GB filesize limit. This is not a limitation of the Tab, but of virtually ALL devices that support external memory.
The expectation of being able to play almost blu-ray quality movies on a 7" screen is a bit unrealistic. It's only 1024x600 so anything beyond 720p is a complete waste of time, as is bitrates much beyond 1000kbps if you're using H.264 compression, as the difference is hardly going to be noticable on such a small display. The average movie encoded to a circa 1GB H.264'd MKV file will likely be virtually indistinguishable from its source when played on the GT, unless you've got visions of playing it back through an HDMI dock.
Besides, why have 4 4GB movies, when you can have 16 1GB movies to watch?
VPlayer will happily play pretty much anything at up to 2000kbps that I've told it to which is higher than I'd usually encode at unless it's for archival purposes. It does have audio sync issues with some high bitrate sources. You could also try Rockplayer.
The standard video player will handle pretty much any MPEG4 derived file that you can throw at it. (Divx, XVid, etc) and has no issue with 720p (1280x720) sources. Beyond that, you'll want to try VPlayer, MPlayer or Rockplayer etc.
Don't expect it to handle high-bitrate 1080p H264 videos very well, it's only a 1Ghz CPU after all and H.264 takes a lot of processing power to decode. You might get away with it if encoding with Xvid, but again, 1080p over 720p is going to be a waste of space on the 1024x600 display. If you want to output to a TV then you might get benefit from it, but it's a bit convoluted. If it's fairly low bitrate and/or a lesser codec than H.264, then you might have better success.
The GPS takes care of hi-def video playback, and while 1080p is pretty useless on the device. If you already have the video in 1080p format, it's pretty nice to be able to play it without converting it. And when the HDMI dock arrives, 1080p playback on tv is useful.
dhanjel said:
The GPS takes care of hi-def video playback
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the what with the what what?
If I got say a 32GB sdcard. Could I format that as ext3 and store files bigger than 4GB on there? Would I be able to easily access the files from the various apps?
Like others have said 720p MKV/MP4 will play fine with H.264/x.264 video tucked inside. To use the allshare app easily, use MP4 files as Windows Media Sharing will see those and stream them out via DLNA.
My reasoning is as follows:
1 - Screen is only 1024x600 so 720p is all you need (1080p content is just overkill here). Even regular old DVD rips look great.
2 - Only has two speakers, repack your MKV into an MP4 with the audio converted to 2ch AAC LC with your H.264 video. This is the same format used for the XBox 360 as well. Basically if you can watch it on your 360 (no hacks) then you can stream it with allshare.
I follow these "rules" and stream everything from my sabnzb homeserver no problem.
Can the Galaxy Tab play high-profile .mkv files flawlessly?
What I am talking about is 720p .mkv files with high bit rate ( 4,000+ kbps ) without DTS sound (just AAC sound) flawlessly?
The Xoom is having problem in this department.
Also, what player do you use? Default, or Rockplayer or others?
Standard video player plays 1080p and 720p without any problem...
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i use mVideoplayer, like it that it can extract subtitles from mkv.
Stock video player has played everything for me fine
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
Earthbrain said:
What I am talking about is 720p .mkv files with high bit rate ( 4,000+ kbps )
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High bit rate 4mbps? Compared to what, a cellphone video? XD
I got the tab to read PERFECTLY a full hd beast peaking roughly at 40mbps. H264, obviously. Was an mp4, but i doubt that a container will make any difference, i did watch several 720p mkv on the tab anyway.
Oh, i almost forgot: all this with the built in player. Using rockplayer in software mode, that 1080p beast ran at 2-3 fps.
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I have played 720p MKV file. But no player seems to play it smoothly. And most of them does not play the sound audibly.
Worse, the stock player do not even recognize the file type. H264 videos are flawless.
any suggestions for the MKV player?
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Worse, the stock player do not even recognize the file type. H264 videos are flawless.
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I watched like 6 episodes of Panty and Stocking with the stock player. MKV with subtitles (i had to convert them into srt and put them outside the MKV container...) in 720p and clearly with h264 video and aac audio.
There is maybe something wrong with your player?
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I've got some mixed results.
Most files play fine, 1080p or 720p, but it has problems with some files with only DTS or AC3 sound included.
While the galaxy tab is the best media playing tablet I've tried (not tried the archos 101) it failed to play a 720p blu ray rip with 9 reference frames I think it was encoded with matroska libraries later than 1.0
Stock Player is amazing. I cannot stress that enough. It can play 1080p and 720p high profile mp4 h.264 videos flawlessly. Only gripe is the non-support for > 2ch audio, but this can be easily remedied via an audio demux with Yamb -> downmix to stereo -> mux new audio with Yamb.
I don't even watch movies on my HTPC anymore, I just downmix the audio, leave the video alone, and paste the file unto my device.
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I found that using Rockplayer universal with hardware decoding mode plays just as well as the stock play but with the added function of allowing you to choose which audio track to use. However if you have an integrated sub title track mvideoplayer is better. However what the device can play isn't limited to profiles, as I found the tab can play high profile but content encoded with some of the newer matroska libraries, it struggles with.
Just thought I'd post this here in general too, since people tend not to check the "Themes and Apps" section. In short, full HD (1920x1080) is working great on my tablet with the latest BS player lite. It played a .mov fine, a .mkv said that HW decoding isn't supported and that's where I stopped, since I don't have full HD videos in any other format.
Link to the thread in the other section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20657377#post20657377.
Tried 5 different videos now, all were working steadily at 20-28fps (over LAN play).
Can anyone else test it on his tablet?
Thanks for the info, I dont have any of my video in MOV format so i tried some of my other files.
It struggles to play 720p x264 files in both MKV container and MP4
1080p .... Unwatchable.
At the moment it seems dice player is the best option, it handles 720p x264 avc4.1 mkv pretty well, which is the format most people would use to store their bluray media.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 comes with 1280x800 resolution, so although you may have your videos playing, they are not playing at BlueRay HD quality.
You can save some storage room by downsizing them.
Yeah I know, I was just excited about it, because sometimes, even 720p videos struggled hard ... Seems my excitement was a bit unjustified, as it seems it was only a few files that can play smoothly at 1080p, and they were probably able to play nicely before the BS Player update too.
Most of the 720p mkv files i have tried either have audio a little out of sync or it becomes choppy when there is fast movement in video. Do you guys think files like this will play better when ICS comes out? or must we get a tegra 3 tablet to enjoy 720p mkv?
If you're not the one encoding the videos then you aren't in control over playback quality on your devices. The tegra 2 has limitations on what encoding settings are supported for h.264 and these have been discussed in various threads. For those who want to play files over their networks without having to redo their rips it sucks big time. What I do is just run plex media server on my htpc for videos I may want to watch occasionally and I'll rip things I want to carry using the proper setting specific to my tab.
Xoom USA Wi-Fi version.
Installed rooted stock 3.2.1.
Kernel Rogue 1.4.3 Rana.
My problem is I got it MAINLY for watching videos, and I can't seem to get it to play 720p videos smoothly.
Tried playing 720p directly, tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Xilisoft Video Converter (chose Motorola Xoom H.264 profile), tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Handbrake and recommended user-presets.xml containing Xoom video settings etc.
It does play 1280x720p with hardware decoding, but, depending on the video, it stutters for an instant now and then.
Comparing to playing a file on the PC, or laptop, or DVD player, or blu-ray player, or my WD HD Live media player, it's NOT as smooth, i.e. I do notice those "stops" and they drive me nuts.
Should I wait for ICS or change some settings or simply sell the tablet?
Thanks.
This has been addressed a few times already but I will try to give an answer. Yes the Xoom can play 720p videos. The most important factors being what format and which player you use. I personally use Dice player which plays all my 720p videos with no conversion needed however if you must convert, DVD Catalyst does a stellar job. I have played 720p movies files in .mkv and .avi format on Dice player ranging in size from 2GB to 4GB with no issue. The only setting change I made in Dice was to have the stock player handle .mp4. I have used the stock player to play 720p .mp4 files with no issue. Use the search function to find the threads explaining how others are doing it.
Thanks, I'll try again.
Tried RockPlayer, MoboPlayer, VitalPlayer so far - same
And I did use the setting for 720p recommended by others.
http://dev.tonic1394.com/2011/04/video-playback-on-motorola-xoom/
The stuttering was still there...
Try Dice Player. What video size/format are you trying to play?
1280x720 X.264
I'll try the Dice Player, thanks.
ali4ek said:
Xoom USA Wi-Fi version.
Installed rooted stock 3.2.1.
Kernel Rogue 1.4.3 Rana.
My problem is I got it MAINLY for watching videos, and I can't seem to get it to play 720p videos smoothly.
Tried playing 720p directly, tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Xilisoft Video Converter (chose Motorola Xoom H.264 profile), tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Handbrake and recommended user-presets.xml containing Xoom video settings etc.
It does play 1280x720p with hardware decoding, but, depending on the video, it stutters for an instant now and then.
Comparing to playing a file on the PC, or laptop, or DVD player, or blu-ray player, or my WD HD Live media player, it's NOT as smooth, i.e. I do notice those "stops" and they drive me nuts.
Should I wait for ICS or change some settings or simply sell the tablet?
Thanks.
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You could also experiment with the ICS alpha build--it's very stable on nightly version 17--and plays videos very well. Read the Team Eos nightly thread in development for more information.
Yes, I thought I wasn't going to sell until at least seeing how it worked on the final ICS for Xoom...not sure I'm willing to play around with the nightlies though, but thanks for pointing that out
BSPlayer, the older version (check the thread in the XOOM App section for the APKs), works great too. Especially since it doesn't try to sell you the program every few seconds while watching videos.
For best results with any player, make sure to use baseline profile when x264 encoding. No B-Frames or weighted P-frames.
What's really funny I encoded The Guard in 1080p to 720p, due to wider screen the end result (keeping the ratio) is like 1280 by 514 or so.
So I used these settings:
http://www.notionaddicts.com/forums/showthread.php/4291-Tegra-2-Friendly-Handbrake-Settings
Also attached a Word doc in case the URL goes bad
So B-frames are there, I repeated the profile one for one.
Guess what? perfectly smooth playing, using MX Video Player 1.5a.
No trial, free, just ad based, but I have Adfree for Android running, so I don't see any ads whatsoever.
I'm using rooted official 2.3 rom. when I play mkv 720p movies , video plays at lower frame rate than usual and problem in audio video sync. I use mx player and hardware decoder is not available for mkv. can please anyone suggest me some tips to play 720p smoothly. and is there hardware decoding available in new adreno driver in dzo ics for mkv?
I m using bsplayer lite tha supports mkv.
720p on nearly 480p device?
Professionals can correct me, there are few reasons why it won't play in full speed:
1) .mkv files need usually the same space as .mp4, but it has better quality. BUT needs more power to play. That is the disadvantage of matroska. So if there is too high bitrate on the video, it lags/wents off sync. Overclocking might help.
2) 720p??! Really? This phone CAN record 720p video with good fps, but only in good light conditions. You can even watch them (because they are so low-bitrate), but if you have like 720p movie, it lags due to high bitrate it needs to look clear. BUT why would you want to play 1280x720 (16:9 ) resolution video in 800x480 (16:10) resolution screen? Shapes will look odd... I would prefer 480p (854x480).
3) I'm guessing that your movie is on your memorycard? If your memorycard is too slow, can that be the reason for lagging too. This can be fixed with faster memorycard.
4) Switch to Moboplayer. I don't have any experience of mxplayer, but Moboplayer can use hardware decoding for that.