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Picture Quality disappointing

I took a picture and the picture looked good until I zoomed in. Despite taking a "superfine" picture on the maximum available resolution, zooming in resulted in an extremely grainy photograph. Pictures taken on my HTC Raphael running Windows Mobile look far better.
I am still happy with the phone and I am sure the picture quality will be fine for what little I use it for, but I really expected a much higher level of detail.

Have you considered the Galaxy S allows for larger zoom?

I moved the pictures from the Raph to my Galaxy S, so I am viewing them on the same platform.

jaredangus said:
I moved the pictures from the Raph to my Galaxy S, so I am viewing them on the same platform.
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But the picture you took on your ralph is how many megapixels?
Either way a photo when viewed on a monitor will be resized to 1080 max.your just Digital Zooming farther...megapixel doesn't mean quality..it just means your capturing more

3.2 Megapixels on the Raph. I'm going to mess around with settings and see if I can get a better picture, but I was really hoping for this phone to have everything working well out of the box without tweaking.

It's not disappointing because I wasn't expecting much. But the signal to noise ratio of the pics is low. You can see quite a bit of grain. I do like the color saturation.
Meh, it works as a phone cam.
So far with the GPS/Compass issues and the average quality cam, I'm not considering this a "superphone" or a premium Android device. It's just ok. And I'm ok with that.

jaredangus said:
3.2 Megapixels on the Raph. I'm going to mess around with settings and see if I can get a better picture, but I was really hoping for this phone to have everything working well out of the box without tweaking.
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it is working well....take your pc and resize the images to 1920x1080...
again megapixels does not give you quality..but allows you for farther zoom..if you zoom in more...I have a 6mp canon camera...when I zoom it it looks grainy as well..but when its printed or uploaded..it is rescaled to proper resolution..then it looks perfect...

More megapixels equals less quality on any small device.
Ps I thought that Vibrant didnt have gps issues, no ?

I noticed the same grainy quality and am slightly disappointed as well. But if you make sure you are in the best mode for your environment the quality improves appreciably. Still, the issue is not happy making.

kolyan said:
More megapixels equals less quality on any small device.
Ps I thought that Vibrant didnt have gps issues, no ?
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From what I read...the GPS issue is only with Google Maps when there was one, when using a GPS software there was no issue..but firmware upgrade fixed that either way..
@bdjnk - Again..this is to be expected...megapixels != quality...it only allows for more zoom...the quality when compared was no different then a 5mp canon camera...so far the Galaxy S actually has the best camera of any phone of the same class...

gTen said:
From what I read...the GPS issue is only with Google Maps when there was one, when using a GPS software there was no issue..but firmware upgrade fixed that either way..
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Wrong, the GPS issue is actually more pronounced in other apps, for example, My Tracks.
Firmware upgrade didn't fix anything.
GPS and compass both are ****ty.

jaredangus said:
I took a picture and the picture looked good until I zoomed in. Despite taking a "superfine" picture on the maximum available resolution, zooming in resulted in an extremely grainy photograph. Pictures taken on my HTC Raphael running Windows Mobile look far better.
I am still happy with the phone and I am sure the picture quality will be fine for what little I use it for, but I really expected a much higher level of detail.
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Apparently the gallery isn't zooming in on photos like it should. Instead of comparing on your phone in the gallery, transfer the photos to a PC and compare on the PC.
You'll notice the GalaxyS pictures come out just fine.

gTen said:
From what I read...the GPS issue is only with Google Maps when there was one, when using a GPS software there was no issue..but firmware upgrade fixed that either way..
@bdjnk - Again..this is to be expected...megapixels != quality...it only allows for more zoom...the quality when compared was no different then a 5mp canon camera...so far the Galaxy S actually has the best camera of any phone of the same class...
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Droid X might've nailed it. Dual Leds, panoramic shotting....

I moved over from a Nexus One...and I feel the same way...i love this phone, but the picture quality is not on par with the Nexus. I'm going it's a software issue and can be fixed.
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kolyan said:
Droid X might've nailed it. Dual Leds, panoramic shotting....
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They did a side by side of a Galaxy S and DroidX camera...the Galaxy S pretty much destroyed the DroidX..mostly in video recording...
http://thedroidguy.blogspot.com/2010/07/samsung-captivate-vs-motorola-droid-x.html

gTen said:
They did a side by side of a Galaxy S and DroidX camera...the Galaxy S pretty much destroyed the DroidX..mostly in video recording...
http://thedroidguy.blogspot.com/2010/07/samsung-captivate-vs-motorola-droid-x.html
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i dont really use Video feature on cellphones, but I do use Camera for shots when I dont have my S90 around.
I noticed on then vid that Galaxy was recording in 480p and Droid X in 720p.....whats up with that ?

kolyan said:
i dont really use Video feature on cellphones, but I do use Camera for shots when I dont have my S90 around.
I noticed on then vid that Galaxy was recording in 480p and Droid X in 720p.....whats up with that ?
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Yes I noticed that too..but for some reason the 480p version came out still better then the Droid 720p...its possible he accidently had it set to 480p or uploaded it as 480p
The G being an actual photo camera...
http://gadgetsdna.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/smartphone-comparisons_original1.jpg

gTen said:
@bdjnk - Again..this is to be expected...megapixels != quality...it only allows for more zoom...the quality when compared was no different then a 5mp canon camera...so far the Galaxy S actually has the best camera of any phone of the same class...
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I didn't mention the word megapixel. I was talking about the noticable graininess that exists when viewing pictures, taken with the vibrant, at 100% zoom.
reuthermonkey said:
Apparently the gallery isn't zooming in on photos like it should. Instead of comparing on your phone in the gallery, transfer the photos to a PC and compare on the PC.
You'll notice the GalaxyS pictures come out just fine.
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Hm, not really. I am not an expert, but to my eye the same level of noticeable graininess is present on the phone and on my computer.

bdjnk said:
I didn't mention the word megapixel. I was talking about the noticable graininess that exists when viewing pictures, taken with the vibrant, at 100% zoom.
Hm, not really. I am not an expert, but to my eye the same level of noticeable graininess is present on the phone and on my computer.
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What I am saying is this is generally normal on an unprocessed image with high megapixel count..resize both images to 1920x1080 (which is maximum screen resolution now) and you can see what the actual quality is...
Or are you expecting the phone to act like microscope?
to explain, if you do 100% zoom a 1mp would look better then a 3mp, a 3mp will look better then a 5mp..a 5mp would look better then a 20mp..its just how it is..

Is your camera/photos WIDESCREEN? (disadvantages?)

Are you folks taking photos in widescreen?
I found that, although it looks much nicer, when I use a camera app and make the camera take widescreen photos, and then look at the details of the photo, it is no longer 5mp. It seems it downgrades the photo to 3.2mp or something like that.
Is there actually a disadvantage in taking widescreen photos?
ps. how come phones like the Desire HD utilize fullscreen camera right out of the box but we dont?

Wond3r said:
ps. how come phones like the Desire HD utilize fullscreen camera right out of the box but we dont?
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The same reason older phones navigate the web more artfully, or why the similarly-powered SGS2 and single core machines can run Full HD .mkvs and we cant, or why our camera (still) doesnt take 1080p shoots: because several parts of our software isnt optimized.
I have been wondering about the exact quality of "Widescreen" pictures myself, anyone can shed a light on that?

Viamonte said:
The same reason older phones navigate the web more artfully, or why the similarly-powered SGS2 and single core machines can run Full HD .mkvs and we cant, or why our camera (still) doesnt take 1080p shoots: because several parts of our software isnt optimized.
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Phones navigate better than our Atrix?
How about in GB?

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Phones navigate better than our Atrix?
How about in GB?
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web browsing in GB is amazing, smooth as butter. still use dolphin browser though

My widescreen photo's (the default) have always been 3.2mp -- even on Froyo. It's because of the way the photo is cropped. If you set the camera to 5mp, the photo's do not fill the Atrix screen because of the aspect ratio.

Yep, widescreen appears to take the 5MP roughly 4:3 and crop the top and bottom to make it something like 16:9. I changed it to the 5MP setting and always use that.
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So pretty much, even though the widescreen makes sense and looks proper on our phones, it is actually not a good option to use

i actually like it, looks great for landscape pictures, or long portraits. if you just want a normal picture then you should know not to use "wide"screen.

Camera not very good

Everyone says the camera quality is one of the best features of the galaxy s but I think its pretty terrible. All pictures took look dark and don't look clear when you zoom in. Who else thinks the camera is poor on this phone
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can't confirm that. As long as there is a good light, the pictures will turn out great. Compared to other 5mpx shooters I really like the Galaxy S one.

Yep i also like the quality in comparison to other 5mp cams. what suxx is that there is no led flash, but i think we all knew that before bying this phone
Btw did you adjust settings to fine and perhaps enable stabilization mode?
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and i do not recognize sgs1 5mpx camera as good - as said especialy when it is not much light pictures comes gradient - it is ok but still should perform better
i do not recal such on my goof old lost nokia n95 with its optics
same as with gps here looks like sgs1 was assembled from som low cost parts overall
that is why i am sceptic on sgs2 (tested it few times) and looking formward to 3rd revision of samsung look onsmartphone for masses =)
(sgs got gps chip not broadcom bot lirf or something like this that performs way better but camera still records/pics gradient in dark)

hofinho said:
Yep i also like the quality in comparison to other 5mp cams. what suxx is that there is no led flash, but i think we all knew that before bying this phone
Btw did you adjust settings to fine and perhaps enable stabilization mode?
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How do I enable stabilisation mode and adjust to fine?
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seeraj15 said:
How do I enable stabilisation mode and adjust to fine?
i dunno exactly cause im on cm7 and thus cannot look it up right now, but it should be somewhere in the settings of the camera app (you know where you can decide where if you want to save photos on internal or external sd etc.)
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I heard the cm7 camera quality is worse than stock, have you noticed that?

hofinho said:
seeraj15 said:
How do I enable stabilisation mode and adjust to fine?
i dunno exactly cause im on cm7 and thus cannot look it up right now, but it should be somewhere in the settings of the camera app (you know where you can decide where if you want to save photos on internal or external sd etc.)
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I heard the camera quality on cm7 is worse than on stock; have you noticed that?
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Are you viewing the pictures on the phone in gallery? Or in another app on your phone? Or on your computer?
The reason this is important is that when using gallery app, our phones only loads a half resolution version image (to make it easier and snappier to handle)! You can download other image viewer apps in the market that view the full resolution on phone and therefore allow better zooming in to the resulting images.
Also the pictures therefore look better on the computer too, as this also using the full resolution on the image.
So, your problem might be more the gallery app at fault rather than the camera itself. Do some tests of your own to see if this is true.
I am no expert on this topic, but I remember reading this somewhere, and my tests confirm it appears to be true! (YMMV!)
Mike
Garbled meaning induced by swype!

seeraj15 said:
Everyone says the camera quality is one of the best features of the galaxy s but I think its pretty terrible. All pictures took look dark and don't look clear when you zoom in. Who else thinks the camera is poor on this phone
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I'm sure that you must have some of the settings wrong on the camera App, because I have loaded pics to my computer, cropped the unwanted portion and printed on A4 paper. The resulting print was as good as I ever get with any 5mp camera.
I have also sent both pictures and video to my 55" TV screen from my SGS, using Allshare, and the quality is on a par with HD TV.
I agree that you get more versatility with a dedicated camera, but you've got to remember that the SGS is a phone with a camera as an accessory, not a camera that makes phone calls.
Finally, why do people complain about the lack of LED flash, at best, it's only useful up to a metre, but we all knew that the SGS did not have LED camera flash before we bought the phone.

i remember my good old nokia n95 making pictures same quality - and that was 3mpx

Geryatrix said:
I'm sure that you must have some of the settings wrong on the camera App, because I have loaded pics to my computer, cropped the unwanted portion and printed on A4 paper. The resulting print was as good as I ever get with any 5mp camera.
I have also sent both pictures and video to my 55" TV screen from my SGS, using Allshare, and the quality is on a par with HD TV.
I agree that you get more versatility with a dedicated camera, but you've got to remember that the SGS is a phone with a camera as an accessory, not a camera that makes phone calls.
Finally, why do people complain about the lack of LED flash, at best, it's only useful up to a metre, but we all knew that the SGS did not have LED camera flash before we bought the phone.
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What settings should I have then?
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restere defaults in settings =) and you might want to add picture stabilization

$omator said:
i remember my good old nokia n95 making pictures same quality - and that was 3mpx
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N95 had 5mp dude i also had this phone and pics were really good, but anyway pics taken outside while its sunny with galaxy s show even better results in my opinion
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it was 5? hehe well anyways pictures were much better, especialy while not much lights, sgs got some gradient clearly seen while n95 was just dark

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It's good enough for me. Just make sure you are on 5mpx my phone likes to go back to 0.3mpx for some reason. oh and you should at least be on 2.2, heard that produces better pictures

decent 16:9 camera app?

Tried all the ones posted here and don't like the stock g2 interface and I like the miui port but doesn't work on here and I hate 4:3 photos. Any know a mod for the stock aosp camera app the makes it 16:9?

mixalot2008 said:
Tried all the ones posted here and don't like the stock g2 interface and I like the miui port but doesn't work on here and I hate 4:3 photos. Any know a mod for the stock aosp camera app the makes it 16:9?
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What Rom are you running and can you provide me with a logcat of my MIUI camera?

mixalot2008 said:
Tried all the ones posted here and don't like the stock g2 interface and I like the miui port but doesn't work on here and I hate 4:3 photos. Any know a mod for the stock aosp camera app the makes it 16:9?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391694
Lenovo Super Camera?

jcmaddox1 said:
What Rom are you running and can you provide me with a logcat of my MIUI camera?
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Yeah soon as I can figure out how lol I'm running the latest paranoid android. The app opens but when I try to go to setting or any other options the app force closes.
And yeah lenovo super camera looks interesting I'll check it out.

Turns out the lenovo app crashes too. Won't even open.

"A Better Camera" is good.

AyDee said:
"A Better Camera" is good.
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Yeah that's not bad at all.
How would I capture the logcat needed?

mixalot2008 said:
Turns out the lenovo app crashes too. Won't even open.
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Try clearing the cache and data. I know, you shouldn't have any yet but it worked for me.
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mixalot2008 said:
Yeah that's not bad at all.
How would I capture the logcat needed?
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Get "alogcat" or other logging app and set it to run then reproduce your problem. It's also possible through adb.

good one
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Lenovo Super Camera?
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Worked great on my stock D80110c rooted (4.2.2)
big apk but everything works ! even the SEEit! Gallery . While it has a lot of bells and whistles functions.
I use this also its been around for a while and works Great
Camera is Android 4.3 Camera App
What works and I've tested:
- take pictures on all res
- photo-sphere works
- panorama works (I've got though some garbled photos at the end)
- front camera works
- video recording works (both 720 and 1080)
- all settings work
If this helped
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Qverse said:
Worked great on my stock D80110c rooted (4.2.2)
big apk but everything works ! even the SEEit! Gallery . While it has a lot of bells and whistles functions.
I use this also its been around for a while and works Great
Camera is Android 4.3 Camera App
What works and I've tested:
- take pictures on all res
- photo-sphere works
- panorama works (I've got though some garbled photos at the end)
- front camera works
- video recording works (both 720 and 1080)
- all settings work
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This one is only 4:3 and max resolution is 8mp.

mixalot2008 said:
This one is only 4:3 and max resolution is 8mp.
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well yes and no yes only 8mp no 16:9 in 8mp
2mp 16:9
I know , I know . it is the issue is with the aspect ratio (the ratio between width and height. At full resolution, the aspect ratio of the camera is 4:3. the screen aspect ratio is 16:9. So to display a 4:3 image on the 16:9 screen you need to either leave bands at the top and bottom, or crop some of the picture off the sides. And of course WE want the highest MP . But we have a LG-G2 .
Now now on my LG-G2 with this Lenovo Super Camera is working. And I can set to resolution 4160x3120 13MP and I will test to see if it really is to resolution .. I really dont know
Tested : yes I was able to take pictures at the highest 4160x3120 and 4160x 2340W. every thing works except burst shots .. to fast for camera to focus or to save picture .

A better camera is actually serving my purposes pretty well and it has a lot of handy features. Thanks for the recommendation.

Issue with wallpaper quality

Anyone else have an issue where the lockscreen wallpapers aren't crisp and sharp looking? Seems like android compresses the wallpapers and they never look as good as the original image. I've tested out the new moto x and the stock wallpapers look tack sharp on the screen. This isn't just the lockscreen that's giving me this problem, it's the home screen wallpapers as well.
I've tested 1440p and 4k wallpapers as well with the same result. No, im not using low res photos.
Any ideas?

Pi_ said:
Anyone else have an issue where the lockscreen wallpapers aren't crisp and sharp looking? Seems like android compresses the wallpapers and they never look as good as the original image. I've tested out the new moto x and the stock wallpapers look tack sharp on the screen. This isn't just the lockscreen that's giving me this problem, it's the home screen wallpapers as well.
I've tested 1440p and 4k wallpapers as well with the same result. No, im not using low res photos.
Any ideas?
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You are not alone. I have noticed the same thing. I believe its something with TouchWiz. I cropped my wallpapers to 1440x2560 in photoshop and they seem a lot better. Its funny how they still look a tad sharper in Gallery.

Anyone else with this issue / a solution?

Pi_ said:
Anyone else with this issue / a solution?
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No problem here, maybe I have the same issue but I never noticed it. . I also crop all my wallpapers to 1440x2560 and set them as a wallpaper using Quick Pic.

Ahmadmob said:
No problem here, maybe I have the same issue but I never noticed it. . I also crop all my wallpapers to 1440x2560 and set them as a wallpaper using Quick Pic.
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I've tried this, and still no luck. Wallpapers on the Nexus 5 are tack sharp, same as the moto x 2014.
The images in the gallery look amazing, but when they are applied as a wallpaper they look compressed and
blurry, even when they are cropped to match the 1440p resolution. This isnt a huge deal, but just wish it didn't look like this.

This is True
I am going to buy Galaxy Alpha .
and when I looked at wallpapers on home screen and Lock screen on my friend's Alpha it really looked pixalated
I thought its because of 720p and 316 ppi .
but when I checked Gallary app and other apps pics and resolution was looking really superb .
I can see pixels only if I really look Deeply .
2k screen is wastage of battery , Frame rates and performance , specially on S805
I hope they solve this Wallpaper problem

I can confirm this, I've compared a 1440p pic on gallery and when I set it as a wallpaper, as a wallpaper it definitely doesn't look as sharp as when I opened it in gallery. hmmm I hope they fix it with a firmware update or something. Don't know if it has anything to do with this issue but did any of you guys try a different launcher to see if the problem is solved?

Pictures look better in Gallery if you're using Adaptive display mode, because what this mode does is increase sharpness and saturation when viewing images and videos.
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iridaki said:
Pictures look better in Gallery if you're using Adaptive display mode, because what this mode does is increase sharpness and saturation when viewing images and videos.
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I go back and forth between basic and adaptive display, same issue on either display mode.

On both my Moto X and Moto G, whenever I apply wallpaper through Zedge the wallpaper image looks sharp but when I downloaded the same image and apply from photo album the resulting wallpaper looks like their image quality has been reduced. The effects are really noticeable since it produces color banding.
I'm using both stock Moto and Google Now launcher, both have the same issue so I guess it's not Touchwiz related. If anyone can help in pointing to apps that will allow me to apply my photos in gallery without reducing quality I will be grateful.

MattMJB0188 said:
You are not alone. I have noticed the same thing. I believe its something with TouchWiz. I cropped my wallpapers to 1440x2560 in photoshop and they seem a lot better. Its funny how they still look a tad sharper in Gallery.
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Gallery does automatic sharpening.
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darekz said:
Gallery does automatic sharpening.
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Yeap... That's it. Thanks a lot!
An easy way to have the same effect on the homescreen wallpaper, is to open the image with studio and apply the Sharpen effect (100%). Then save as 8MP> and set that image as wallpaper. That image will have noise in the stock gallery, but when applied as wallpaper should look almost identical to how the original one looks in the stock gallery.
Cheers

I have no problems with wallpapers.
I edit them to an ideal size, which on the note 4 is 2880x2560 for AOSP-based launchers(scrolling wallpaper) or 2560x2560 for touchwiz/lockscreen.
I then set them through FX File Explorer which doesn't edit the image unless it's really needed.