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[Q] Any real benefit in rooting your xoom???

Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.

Of course, you can play Donkey Kong on it

yankele said:
Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
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Motorola has said you do NOT need to unroot your device if you want the 4G upgrade. They said they will still install the modem and try to install the software needed. If the software doesn't work, they will still ship it back to you, but now you have to figure out how get the software to work.
In all likelihood, if you're just rooting so you can install some basic apps. You won't have an issue, but if for some reason you're flashing to different roms, then yes you would have to take a little time to either revert back to stock, or get it back and figure out how to install the modem software yourself.

if your asking this question then must not have done enough research or you shouldnt even bother attempting to root

I have done a lot of research and every day go to xoom android development to keep up to date with whats happening but I wanted to ask people who rooted already what are their experience with it.
As of now there is no custom ROM but there is a kernel and a few boot screens but and the overcloking but I from the outside IDK what are people experiencing on a rooted xoom that makes a lot of difference from my non rooted one.
And I may not have a lot of posts in the forums but even tho I'm no expert I'm not a complete stranger to rooting.

If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.

Eclair~ said:
If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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^^^ Exactly what i was trying to imply well put ^^^

Eclair~ said:
If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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He didn't say that he was a pro "at" rooting devices, rather he was pro rooting devices (ie. He's generally in support of the idea).
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App

I'm no rooting expert, or anything close to that title.
Thanks for your response, and yes, I agree with you about the fact that many of the features that we enjoyed in our phones being rooted are still not working for HC.
That's why I was asking if there is anything that I will like and that I'm missing at this point being that I enjoy other devs work but I'm not able to develop on my own.
Anyways I think maybe rooting may not be for me at this point, but I'm really looking forward for something worth rooting my $800 toy!
Thanks

gigglebox said:
He didn't say that he was a pro "at" rooting devices, rather he was pro rooting devices (ie. He's generally in support of the idea).
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
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That is correct, I missed that part in my previous response.
Thank you!

I finally rooted my evo to freely tether my xoom! But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)

hi_its_ryan said:
But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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This is my exact feelings. I'm waiting for the Xoom to become the device it's supposed to be before I get too into tinkering with it. Eventually I will go the rooting route, but not quite yet.

That is what I needed to hear, from normal people like me that had rooted already.
I guess if would have a data plan with vzw it would make more sense to root now but since I don't, and there is not a custom rom and I'll have to revert to stock if I want the software update when I send my xoom for the LTE upgrade, I'm not gonna be rooting yet all tho I'm dying to root, or maybe I'll root just for the fun of it because anyways I flash a new rom almost every week or twice a week so the reverting to stock may not be any harder to do.
I'll see....
Thanks for your feedback guys!
Sent from my HTC EVO running MYN's WARM Z using the XDA app.

hi_its_ryan said:
I finally rooted my evo to freely tether my xoom! But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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You're still able to get those updates even while being rooted. You won't however, once you choose to install a custom rom on it... made possible by rooting.

Can someone just help the Guy/Girl?
come on now. It seems like everyother thread has someone saying "If you know so much blah blah" We all know he doesn't know, which is the point of his thread. To Learn.
You don't need to come in here and try to insult him/her and tell em that if they don't know they don't need to bother rooting, etc.
If you have rooted, What have you done with your device that would make a knowledgeable end user want to root? Thats all he wants to know.
I wish I could help, but this Xoom is my first android device.
I am looking forward to rooting for my first time, and playing with everything, but personally I am just going to wait till after the LTE upgrade just to save myself a headache.
Maybe someone could help me with this question. Since after rooting/flashing ROMs might cause Moto's software for the 4g Radio to work improperly, does that mean if I wait till after the LTE upgrade, rooting/flashing might cause the Radio to not work?
Or is it somehow, once the software is on there, changing the ROMs and Permissions won't affect the Radio?

yankele said:
That is what I needed to hear, from normal people like me that had rooted already.
I guess if would have a data plan with vzw it would make more sense to root now but since I don't, and there is not a custom rom and I'll have to revert to stock if I want the software update when I send my xoom for the LTE upgrade, I'm not gonna be rooting yet all tho I'm dying to root, or maybe I'll root just for the fun of it because anyways I flash a new rom almost every week or twice a week so the reverting to stock may not be any harder to do.
I'll see....
Thanks for your feedback guys!
Sent from my HTC EVO running MYN's WARM Z using the XDA app.
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Did you not read the third post of this thread? It doesn't matter if you root the device or not, You'll get the 4G update. However if you're running a custom rom, they might not be able to install the software for the modem, in which case, you need to do it yourself. If you keep the stock rom and stay rooted, I doubt you would have any problems.

The third post in no way answers his question. Nor do the posts to "research." Don't be a ****, either answer the question or ignore it. The question is a reasonable one and posted in general.
In my opinion right now there is not a need to root right now unless:
-you want to deploy a custom Tom
-you want to overclock
-you want to customize the default rom. .. I.e. remove default applications such as the games, replace system files for turning purposes, etc...
-you want to run an application that requires root.
Until you have a desire or need that requires root there is no need to root the device. If you do root though Motorola seems (as stated in post 3) willing to upgrade the device at a minimum. So fear of ineligibility for the upgrade should not be a deterrent to upgrading.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App

JayBeezy802 said:
Did you not read the third post of this thread? It doesn't matter if you root the device or not, You'll get the 4G update. However if you're running a custom rom, they might not be able to install the software for the modem, in which case, you need to do it yourself. If you keep the stock rom and stay rooted, I doubt you would have any problems.
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I did read it but if you read my post I'm acknowledging that my device will get the LTE upgrade no matter what, but I don't want to take the risk to not be able to get the software upgrade just because they see my xoom is unlocked and rooted.
If you read the Motorola moderator in that forum he says more or less that if you are rooted pretty much don't get the software... and you know they could use any kind of excuses to not do it.
But still I might root just for the fun of it and going back to stock just to ne safe and not have to look for the freacking thing myself.
Sent from my HTC EVO running MYN's WARM Z using the XDA app.

yankele said:
Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
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My main motive is nothing more than having the capability of defying the machine/syztem

I rooted and OC'd with both BidDogs and Koush's kernels.
I had reboot issues with both (not complaining here). Had it OC'd for about 4 days, tried BD update this morning and still did the reboot thing (sometimes several times an hour). MOST peoples OC seems to be wokring well.
Other then that, while rooted I didn't really do much other then poke around as su in the file system.
This morning i flashed back using the SFB file. I will try to root it again and OC if my xoom remains solid for the next day...maybe i did one of the steps wrong somewhere.
So to finally answer your question, I had a awsome time rooting/OC'ing and learned quite a bit doing so!

new to android

Hi everybody im new here and pretty new to android in general.
i bought my nexus 4 a month ago and i like it alot now i have a few questions
i think about getting my device rooted for a couple of reasons- first of all to improve the battery life and to check my cpu (wheter it is slow, nominal, fast or faster) and to undervolt the phone accordingly. also in order to use some programs that require root like fps meter. and maybe to use a rom that allows to hide the navigation keys and make them appear by swiping from the bottom upwards.
now my question is what are the dangers of rooting and if i root would i still be able to get updates from google?
because i read that if you recieve an update your device might turn off and not turn on again.
thank you in advance.

TheVaginator said:
Hi everybody im new here and pretty new to android in general.
i bought my nexus 4 a month ago and i like it alot now i have a few questions
i think about getting my device rooted for a couple of reasons- first of all to improve the battery life and to check my cpu (wheter it is slow, nominal, fast or faster) and to undervolt the phone accordingly. also in order to use some programs that require root like fps meter. and maybe to use a rom that allows to hide the navigation keys and make them appear by swiping from the bottom upwards.
now my question is what are the dangers of rooting and if i root would i still be able to get updates from google?
because i read that if you recieve an update your device might turn off and not turn on again.
thank you in advance.
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http://google.about.com/od/socialtoolsfromgoogle/a/root-android-decision.htm
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...ndroid-like-a-pro-rooting-and-roms-explained/
Don't google search or anything.....
My personal opinion...You shouldn't root. You don't at this time understand it. Nor the reason to do it and you don't search for answers on your own.
/shrug

So, if you root your device it normally voids the warranty. But this is no prob cause you can simply unroot it when guarantee is needed. The rooting itself is not dangerous, if you use a toolkit it is very simple and you almost can`t brick your phone. When you don`unlock the bootloader you can still get google updates, but why not unlock and enjoy custom roms and kernels. Also only with these things you get a lot better battery life, evrythings faster etc..
ah and: you need unlocked bootloader for flashing custom roms and kernels!
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7

TheVaginator said:
because i read that if you recieve an update your device might turn off and not turn on again.
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This isn't True..i donno where you read it. But this thing is true that after reading this thing, i lost consciousness
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

I want to root but I have a few concerns

So I want to root my device but I haven't rooted/had a rooted device in 2 years since the HTC One M7.
My main concerns are:
Worried that my banking app won't work once rooted and I need this app.
Every phone I rooted/flashed ROMs on had some sort of slow down issues or other little issues here and there.
I some how managed to bork the radio on the HTC One and I have no clue how I broke it as all I did was flash a rom which I had done many times before on that device and many before it. I did fix the problem about 3 months after getting a new phone and then sold the HTC after it was fixed, but still, that issue plagued me for about 6 months of my time with the phone.
I think these are my only real concerns. And what has sort of kept me from rooting the last 5 phones I've had and as I'm back on a nexus device for the first time since the galaxy nexus I thought it may be time to start rooting and flashing again. Oh I have missed having a nexus.
Does anyone have any advice? Or does anyone know if there's a work around so that the mobile banking apps still work when rooted?

undeadadd said:
So I want to root my device but I haven't rooted/had a rooted device in 2 years since the HTC One M7.
My main concerns are:
Worried that my banking app won't work once rooted and I need this app.
Every phone I rooted/flashed ROMs on had some sort of slow down issues or other little issues here and there.
I some how managed to bork the radio on the HTC One and I have no clue how I broke it as all I did was flash a rom which I had done many times before on that device and many before it. I did fix the problem about 3 months after getting a new phone and then sold the HTC after it was fixed, but still, that issue plagued me for about 6 months of my time with the phone.
I think these are my only real concerns. And what has sort of kept me from rooting the last 5 phones I've had and as I'm back on a nexus device for the first time since the galaxy nexus I thought it may be time to start rooting and flashing again. Oh I have missed having a nexus.
Does anyone have any advice? Or does anyone know if there's a work around so that the mobile banking apps still work when rooted?
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The banking apps generally won't work with root, and some won't work with an unlocked bootloader either. I'm lucky, my banking app does work with root.
It's virtually impossible to brick a Nexus unless you do something really crazy and flash something to the bootloader partition that isn't actually a bootloader image. As long as you have your bootloader you can pretty much recover from anything with the factory images.
I have a guide you might find helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Sent from my Nexus 6P

OK thanks. I really need my banking app lol

Try it and find out. You can always unroot and re-lock the boot loader.
You don't need to run a different ROM, it really depends on what you want to do. I tend to run the OEM ROM with a custom kernel and do the minor tweaks I like myself. Why do you feel you want root, and need for it?

It's weird my 5x didn't have wells fargo app available and it was not compatible, but for some reason the 6p it works no problem and lets me install it. Chase and wells fargo works for me

Wells Fargo go here since my nexus 6

400ixl said:
Try it and find out. You can always unroot and re-lock the boot loader.
You don't need to run a different ROM, it really depends on what you want to do. I tend to run the OEM ROM with a custom kernel and do the minor tweaks I like myself. Why do you feel you want root, and need for it?
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I always liked tinkering with my phone,flashing ROMs and all the additional tweaks.

Worth it to root?

I recently got this 6P, commingled from a rooted, unlocked, cm13 HTC one m9, would it be worth it to still root? I loved tweaking my m9, unfortunately it was an att version. So it was really hard to find Roms and tweaks that worked for it. I love my 6P so far and it performs wonderfully, just lacks that extra bit of tweaking.

Etheralrealm said:
I recently got this 6P, commingled from a rooted, unlocked, cm13 HTC one m9, would it be worth it to still root? I loved tweaking my m9, unfortunately it was an att version. So it was really hard to find Roms and tweaks that worked for it. I love my 6P so far and it performs wonderfully, just lacks that extra bit of tweaking.
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There are a lot of Roms, mods and kernels available for the 6P. If you like customizing your phone then you should go for it.

jhs39 said:
There are a lot of Roms, mods and kernels available for the 6P. If you like customizing your phone then you should go for it.
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Oh yea, i know you can install custom kernals to overclock, do you know of any good ones?

Etheralrealm said:
Oh yea, i know you can install custom kernals to overclock, do you know of any good ones?
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I don't think it's necessary to overclock the 6P. The most popular kernels are probably Franco's if battery life is your main concern or Elemental if you want more control over performance than you get with the stock kernel. I increased my battery life a bit by switching to Elemental but I didn't use any settings that would negatively affect performance, which is more important to me than battery life. Pure Nexus is a very popular Rom, although I didn't personally have a good experience with that one. I'm happy with Cortex. Some people prefer Megapixel. There's lots of custom ROMs depending on what you are looking for. Just browse through the development threads on XDA.

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I don't think it's necessary to overclock the 6P. The most popular kernels are probably Franco's if battery life is your main concern or Elemental if you want more control over performance than you get with the stock kernel. I increased my battery life a bit by switching to Elemental but I didn't use any settings that would negatively affect performance, which is more important to me than battery life. Pure Nexus is a very popular Rom, although I didn't personally have a good experience with that one. I'm happy with Cortex. Some people prefer Megapixel. There's lots of custom ROMs depending on what you are looking for. Just browse through the development threads on XDA.
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Ive been thinking about it for a while now, had everything downloaded. thanks, just installed Lineage OS.

It was not worth to root, actually, until Nougat was released. I remember getting very quick updates, that were actually improving user experience. I was actually a very pro-stock person, but recently i rooted my phone and installed Pure Nexus. Not going to stock anytime soon

IMO there is plenty to keep your tweaking urge satisfied even if you choose to just run the stock rom, rooted with a good kernel. Monthly updates, great root apps and rock solid. Regardless, you'll definitely want to unlock the bootloader and enable USB debugging. Don't worry about the persistent boot nag screen about locking the bootloader- It's normal. Best of luck.

Hi Guys, I've unlocked the phone and rooted as well. Running megapixel ROM now and I'm very pleased with the pixel experience.
Only thing that bothers my OCD is the warning screen when I turn on the phone that says phone cannot be checked for corrupted software or something. It says to lock the bootloader. I have seen some posts over here on XDA saying that even if I restore back to stock completely using the the factory images, that message won't go away. I wonder what will happen when I sell it...

Rooting back in the day (CM6 era) provided usefulness in providing features that were not available from factory.
Nowadays, OEM software has implemented many of those features to their devices which eliminates the need to root for a lot of people. Now that updates are once a month, it makes it an inconvenience to having to update properly. Safetynet doesn't pass without configurations and may fail in the future when the new exploits are patched. You'll also have to factory reset during version updates which make it a hassle.
IMO, rooting nowadays causes more of an inconvenience than purpose. I prefer getting updates quickly and easily without having to fiddle around and everything works as it should.
The main question is, what is the REAL reason why you're wanting to root? If it's solely for the purpose of feeling like you modified something your phone, then I would say keep it unrooted unless your willing to lose all your data when a major version comes out.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

If you want to use your phone outdoor with a decent screen brightness, you'll have to root.

Jules Winnfield said:
If you want to use your phone outdoor with a decent screen brightness, you'll have to root.
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Unfortunately, this will cause screen burn-in earlier.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

ceo.mtcl said:
Hi Guys, I've unlocked the phone and rooted as well. Running megapixel ROM now and I'm very pleased with the pixel experience.
Only thing that bothers my OCD is the warning screen when I turn on the phone that says phone cannot be checked for corrupted software or something. It says to lock the bootloader. I have seen some posts over here on XDA saying that even if I restore back to stock completely using the the factory images, that message won't go away. I wonder what will happen when I sell it...
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The message will go away if you restore fully to stock and then relock the bootloader.

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The message will go away if you restore fully to stock and then relock the bootloader.
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Thank you for confirming. I really hope that it goes away after full restore to factory settings. Is there any zip file available, flashing which will make it go away while I am on custom ROM? Or does it always stay on all custom ROMs?

ceo.mtcl said:
Only thing that bothers my OCD is the warning screen when I turn on the phone that says phone cannot be checked for corrupted software or something. It says to lock the bootloader. I have seen some posts over here on XDA saying that even if I restore back to stock completely using the the factory images, that message won't go away. I wonder what will happen when I sell it...
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Don't worry about it. The nag warning is only present when your bootloader is unlocked, and you should leave your bootloader permanently unlocked. Eventually you won't even notice or care. If/when you return to stock, re-lock the bootloader and it will be gone.

richii0207 said:
Rooting back in the day (CM6 era) provided usefulness in providing features that were not available from factory.
Nowadays, OEM software has implemented many of those features to their devices which eliminates the need to root for a lot of people. Now that updates are once a month, it makes it an inconvenience to having to update properly. Safetynet doesn't pass without configurations and may fail in the future when the new exploits are patched. You'll also have to factory reset during version updates which make it a hassle.
IMO, rooting nowadays causes more of an inconvenience than purpose. I prefer getting updates quickly and easily without having to fiddle around and everything works as it should.
The main question is, what is the REAL reason why you're wanting to root? If it's solely for the purpose of feeling like you modified something your phone, then I would say keep it unrooted unless your willing to lose all your data when a major version comes out.
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Some people prefer custom ROMs that give you features not included in stock Android. ROMs with Pixel features for instance are popular on the 6P and its unlikely most of those features will come to stock.

Couple of questions since I've been away from rooted scene for a minute

Hey guys, long story short I've appropriated Axon 7 I originally got for my girl to use since she didn't quite like it, and honestly right now I need to upgrade from my unrootable slug of BB Priv.
As usual, way too many choices when it comes to roms, and the whole Oreo overhang is making it hard to try and narrow it down to just one. I haven't done anything custom for years, so is there a way to back up and restore all the apps and settings to save doing all of that between each new FW flash? That would save a ton of time and help me decide on a rom to start using daily.
That aside, should I pick from the already and well established 7.1.1 roms or try/wait for the 8's? On that note, what's with MiFavor 4.2 vs 5?

Skv012a said:
Hey guys, long story short I've appropriated Axon 7 I originally got for my girl to use since she didn't quite like it, and honestly right now I need to upgrade from my unrootable slug of BB Priv.
As usual, way too many choices when it comes to roms, and the whole Oreo overhang is making it hard to try and narrow it down to just one. I haven't done anything custom for years, so is there a way to back up and restore all the apps and settings to save doing all of that between each new FW flash? That would save a ton of time and help me decide on a rom to start using daily.
That aside, should I pick from the already and well established 7.1.1 roms or try/wait for the 8's? On that note, what's with MiFavor 4.2 vs 5?
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Just unlock and root, all following the guides. Use TWRP 3.2.1-0.
You can dualboot ROMs as long as the primary ROM is stock MiFavor. It's a little bit more complicated with Oreo ROMs but it's doable. Otherwise just try with titanium backup maybe, people still use that thing

Skv012a said:
Hey guys, long story short I've appropriated Axon 7 I originally got for my girl to use since she didn't quite like it, and honestly right now I need to upgrade from my unrootable slug of BB Priv.
As usual, way too many choices when it comes to roms, and the whole Oreo overhang is making it hard to try and narrow it down to just one. I haven't done anything custom for years, so is there a way to back up and restore all the apps and settings to save doing all of that between each new FW flash? That would save a ton of time and help me decide on a rom to start using daily.
That aside, should I pick from the already and well established 7.1.1 roms or try/wait for the 8's? On that note, what's with MiFavor 4.2 vs 5?
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Why not get it up to date as possible and leave it stock?
I decided to keep mine stock, still has a locked bootloader. Today I did an ADB de-bloat. Relented on my "not touching it" stance a tiny bit, lol. It is nice to have excess apps removed though. A factory reset would probably bring it all back anyway.
I started on this because I could tether data from my personal SIM but not my work SIM. ADB allowed me to fix that and then I got carried away
Will still be able to do an official Oreo update this way, if it comes.

RobboW said:
Why not get it up to date as possible and leave it stock?
I decided to keep mine stock, still has a locked bootloader. Today I did an ADB de-bloat. Relented on my "not touching it" stance a tiny bit, lol. It is nice to have excess apps removed though. A factory reset would probably bring it all back anyway.
I started on this because I could tether data from my personal SIM but not my work SIM. ADB allowed me to fix that and then I got carried away
Will still be able to do an official Oreo update this way, if it comes.
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Seeing how ZTE is basically screwed outta US market for/now, I think betas + our devs will be the only way. I wouldn't mind 7.1.1 had it option for camera to be on lock button double-click, but alas. And de-bloat IMO is an absolute must.

Skv012a said:
Seeing how ZTE is basically screwed outta US market for/now, I think betas + our devs will be the only way. I wouldn't mind 7.1.1 had it option for camera to be on lock button double-click, but alas. And de-bloat IMO is an absolute must.
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On MiFavor there's a much better thing imo: assign a fingerprint to the camera. Just use a finger that you won't ever confuse while unlocking it normally and you're done

Choose an username... said:
On MiFavor there's a much better thing imo: assign a fingerprint to the camera. Just use a finger that you won't ever confuse while unlocking it normally and you're done
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So print can open camera + unlock the locker or?

In fingerprint settings you can assign different functions per print.

In fingerprint settings you can assign different functions per print and also set it to take picture. I have a finger set to turn on the torch when it's locked.

Skv012a said:
So print can open camera + unlock the locker or?
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Yes ofc
you had no idea about that one did you

Everyone always instantly wants a custom ROM but there's nothing wrong with stock. People just don't give it a go. It is a very well equipped phone once on Nougat. Even if we don't get Oreo I will leave mine on stock ROM unless it lasts well and need to go custom to get security updates etc.

RobboW said:
Everyone always instantly wants a custom ROM but there's nothing wrong with stock. People just don't give it a go. It is a very well equipped phone once on Nougat. Even if we don't get Oreo I will leave mine on stock ROM unless it lasts well and need to go custom to get security updates etc.
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I generally agree, but, there's no camera2, no double click for camera, and even these 2 misc features actually make or break a phone for me. If even Blackberry had the camera shortcut, with its potato of a camera otherwise, I don't see why ZTE decided to take it out entirely. Add a disclaimer and made it a toggleable option, not remove it entirely because of stupid people who put their phones into pockets with screen facing inwards.
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Yes ofc
you had no idea about that one did you
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Well, I personally never lock my phone because it annoys the hell out of me and my phone doesn't leave my side, ever, and on top of that A7 seems to hate my prints, so this is hardly a viable option for me. And, using the print sensor as a shutter, once and only once you're in the camera is pointless for me. double power button brings up the camera on top of whatever else you have going on, lock/screen off or not, to let you take that quick snap and that's exactly what I loved in 6.0.1 and onwards.