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Hey I just ordered my nexus 4. Just a quick question, which custom rom most resembles the stock one that the n4 comes with but with better tweaks and battery life?
Coming from an s3 and I've always used a touchwiz based custom rom.
So I would like to stay with the rom that most is similar to the one the n4 comes with. Ty
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Probably Primerunner under Nexus 4 Android Development. Seems pretty stock but with some enhancements.
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MiNCO v6 ROM resembles the stock ROM. No customizations.
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All of them resemble stock. They're all themed the same, it's just a matter of added features while maintaining the same look as stock.
I don't get what you're trying to get at op. It's not like s3 roms where everybody is trying to theme their rom. A lot of roms on n4 aren't themed, some are but most are left it's holo look.
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zephiK said:
All of them resemble stock. They're all themed the same, it's just a matter of added features while maintaining the same look as stock.
I don't get what you're trying to get at op. It's not like s3 roms where everybody is trying to theme their rom. A lot of roms on n4 aren't themed, some are but most are left it's holo look.
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I guess... From a stability point of view... To be as stable as the stock.
I've ran cm10.1 and cm10...Along with some other aokp roms on my s3 before and of course it's not as stable as the stock tw rom.
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Minco
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All the ROMs should be very stable since they are all based on the same AOSP code. This is very different from a non-Nexus phone where custom ROMs might be less stable.
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Don't want to create new thread so will ask here as I'm also coming from S3...
Are the any major bugs with CM rom? With the S3, Picassa sync and Bluetooth didn't work...I'm assuming with the N4 everything should be more or less 100%?

steviewevie said:
All the ROMs should be very stable since they are all based on the same AOSP code. This is very different from a non-Nexus phone where custom ROMs might be less stable.
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Yeah that makes sense... Thanks.
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Crisisx1 said:
I guess... From a stability point of view... To be as stable as the stock.
I've ran cm10.1 and cm10...Along with some other aokp roms on my s3 before and of course it's not as stable as the stock tw rom.
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Well the difference is that this is NEXUS device and is AOSP supported. So 99.9% of the ROMs that come out for this phone are stable. They're not stable on the S3 for AOKP/CM right away because they have to actually do work to make it work; whereas, N4 is AOSP supported and its like.. BAM! it works out of the box. As for S3, the phone ships out with TouchWiz. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP requires work to make everything work.
I'd say CM/AOKP are pretty stable overall. All ROMs are stable. This is one of the many benefits of having a Nexus device and I don't believe in when people are wanting to upgrade and people say "oh just get a S3.. it doesnt have latest but just flash a custom rom and you'll be on latest android) no it doesn't work that way just because of like what you said... instablity. When Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) comes out, N4 will be one of the first devices to launch with it and we'll have the most stable ROM day one without having to rework code to make all the functionalities like calling, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, Screen Rotation, Data, etc to work (I know on other phones, people release dirty ROMs and things like what I listed don't work as of yet until its fixed)
Shopping for a ROM/Kernel is like shopping for a car. Some tips to take,
1) Browse the original and android dev forums. Search around and look for whats interesting.
2) Find it interesting? Read OP post and the past 6-7 posts (dont even read it.. skim through it for feedback)
3) Like what you see? Check for screenshots or even a YouTube video
4) Still like it? Flash it and try it
and most of all, ENJOY.

zephiK said:
Well the difference is that this is NEXUS device and is AOSP supported. So 99.9% of the ROMs that come out for this phone are stable. They're not stable on the S3 for AOKP/CM right away because they have to actually do work to make it work; whereas, N4 is AOSP supported and its like.. BAM! it works out of the box. As for S3, the phone ships out with TouchWiz. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP requires work to make everything work.
I'd say CM/AOKP are pretty stable overall. All ROMs are stable. This is one of the many benefits of having a Nexus device and I don't believe in when people are wanting to upgrade and people say "oh just get a S3.. it doesnt have latest but just flash a custom rom and you'll be on latest android) no it doesn't work that way just because of like what you said... instablity. When Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) comes out, N4 will be one of the first devices to launch with it and we'll have the most stable ROM day one without having to rework code to make all the functionalities like calling, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, Screen Rotation, Data, etc to work (I know on other phones, people release dirty ROMs and things like what I listed don't work as of yet until its fixed)
Shopping for a ROM/Kernel is like shopping for a car. Some tips to take,
1) Browse the original and android dev forums. Search around and look for whats interesting.
2) Find it interesting? Read OP post and the past 6-7 posts (dont even read it.. skim through it for feedback)
3) Like what you see? Check for screenshots or even a YouTube video
4) Still like it? Flash it and try it
and most of all, ENJOY.
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Great reply... awesome, makes a lot more sense now. Thank you. I can't wait til my N4 arrives : )))
I've been reading at other threads about people complaining about quick battery drain and the screen not looking too good... I hope that isn't the case with me.. but I'm pretty sure a custom rom and kernel can fix all of that.

Crisisx1 said:
Great reply... awesome, makes a lot more sense now. Thank you. I can't wait til my N4 arrives : )))
I've been reading at other threads about people complaining about quick battery drain and the screen not looking too good... I hope that isn't the case with me.. but I'm pretty sure a custom rom and kernel can fix all of that.
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Quick battery drain. Hmmmm, you will probably notice that battery won't be good until at least 2-3 charge cycles. Why?
1. You just got the phone, obviously you're going to be playing with the phone. Downloading apps, changing settings, setting up your home screen etc.
2. It takes time for the phone to get its charging cycle.
3. Stock kernel has the msm wakelock. Fixed in a future OTA.
Screen looks great. I don't have any problems. But yes you are right, custom kernel does fix #3 and you can alter your colors until it satisfy your eyes. Stock values are good enough for me. It looks A LOT better than Samsung's Super AMOLED, I came from a Galaxy Nexus.

Custom roms, but why?

So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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mcarbaja said:
So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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jamal777 said:
Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast

jamal777 said:
Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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Actually I have gotten way better battery life on stock but that's just me
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Customization is key for a lot of people who try custom ROMs. Kernels give some great features as well. We have excellent ROM and kernel devs so its really nice. The Nexus 4 is considered a "dev" phone by a lot of people so why not take advantage of the awesome support we have!
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CheesyNutz said:
battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Moot*
Also, have you tried EVERY kernel? Harsh keeps close to stock, but adds newer patches and fixes, as well as the ability to change gamma. He still uses mpdecision, which retains the stock snappiness.
OP, using custom ROMs lets you have the latest version of Android + all the cool extras.
T9 dialer, Pie and battery percentage are three VERY popular ones. Mind you, there are ways to add these to the stock ROM, but at that point it's not stock.

one word - COLORS

Run stock as long as you happily can. Keep an eye on the more popular custom ROM threads to see if there's any one, or more, features that you absolutely can't live without, if you're at all interested.
You're running a great ROM already and too many people jump into the ring without doing enough research.

The one thing I can't live without is hiding nav bar,
ok, two things, Touch Control.... Since stock kernel disabled it I had to use a custom kernel. Besides it's old habit. I was a Franco kernel user since Galaxy Nexus.

1. The software buttons can take up a lot of space after the status bar is included. Makes the screen feel less like 4.7"
2. The stock colors really are washed out. Modifying the gamma can get you extremely attractive colors.
3. I like being able to have a flashlight and my hotspot a touch away and having custom tiles proves awesome for that.
4. When you're playing Real Racing 3 and your girlfriend texts you, its kind of a pain in the butt to switch windows . The pie in my ROM let's me read and respond to my notifications on the fly.
5. Aesthetics. The boot animation, custom app color recommendations and artwork in general are just awesome on Paranoid Android 3.1. Cooler than Holo at times
6. Better sound. By default the volume on this sucks but now I've installed Xloud it's just right.
But in the end this is a Nexus device. Works just peachy off the bat but coming from the developer concept series from Google, they don't expect you to take it as is. Different strokes for different folks. 4.2.2 is as is. If you want more though the Nexus is the cornocopia of ROM development. Every big league ROM originates here. Another reason to love it among the rest .
Just my two cents
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CyanogenMod and Stock Kernel
In my opinion the best way to go is CyanogenMod gives you a lot more customization and the battery life, ram speed and CPU clock is perfectly fine so there's no need to get a custom kernel.

Custom rom allows you to control your phone however your want.
As for me, i am using PA Rom. The reason I choose PA because it has some nice tweaks and customization.
- Battery Percentage
- Customizable Lockscreen
- Quick Settings Panel Customization
- Custom color for apps :>
- Volume Button tweaks
- Full Screen (Pie)

All about me.
Customization!!!!!!! I really liked having a top of the line device, except for the crap sound, washed out colors and lack of options. Using P.A.C. Rom with the franco Kernel it seems like a whole new phone. There is almost no end to what I can tweak or modify on my phone. The addition of Awesome Beats and Noozxoide made my phone sound crazy good. Everyones phone is totally their own. No 2 are alike because you can personalize everything. If i wanted the same phone as everyone else I would have bought an Iphone. Once you start flashing you will find it hard to stop. Enjoy the power of Stock for a while and then come to the darkside and you will never want to go back to stock.

There are aspects of custom ROMs and kernels in general that give you an increased fluidity. The nexus 4 is beastly and honestly I run full stock right now until I somehow get bored with its performance and want to Rev the CPU/GPU to its limit
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Much more features, tweaks and customization.

R: Custom roms, but why?
Features and tweaks. Customization.
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Running stock or my modification of it lol. Stock 4.2.2, Root, Franco Kernel, Improved camera patch and Xlouder patch with awesome beats.
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Try it for yourself, bud. Don't be ignorant and make a thread like this.

With the custom rom you can customise more you phone and improve your experience with your phone than stock ROM. Many people said that in latest posts. But no one precise that every custom ROM has some little or big dysfunction. Look the chapter troobleshooting of each custom rom. Even cyanogenmod (very popular) has one.
My strategy is replaced the stock ROM by custom ROM when I 'm feel tired of my phone. And then it allows me to wait several mouths: time to search the right next phone for me and buy it.

How about using the stock deox roms ? This allows you to run the base rom plus flash some small customisations
Customisations in the roms sometimes bring instability, although most of the main roms on here CM /AOKP / AOSP are quite stable but that is why they are development roms

[Q] Custom ROM Question

Hi there! New to the forum, formerly used SDX developers.
on my first TouchWiz device and was hoping to hear some opinions and get educated on how custom ROMs work on a phone with an OEM overlay. I previously ran a Nexus S with Cyanogenmod on it. I really enjoyed it, but didn't lose any features going from vanilla Android to CM.
curious what features I might lose if I were to switch on this new phone. The features I might be interested in not losing are the camera app (essentially the burst shooting mode and best picture mode) and the air gestures. There were many features I really enjoyed of CM, but I would like most some sort of compromise.
other ROM suggestions would be appreciated to hear too.
Thanks for your time.

SalomonCascade said:
Hi there! New to the forum, formerly used SDX developers.
on my first TouchWiz device and was hoping to hear some opinions and get educated on how custom ROMs work on a phone with an OEM overlay. I previously ran a Nexus S with Cyanogenmod on it. I really enjoyed it, but didn't lose any features going from vanilla Android to CM.
curious what features I might lose if I were to switch on this new phone. The features I might be interested in not losing are the camera app (essentially the burst shooting mode and best picture mode) and the air gestures. There were many features I really enjoyed of CM, but I would like most some sort of compromise.
other ROM suggestions would be appreciated to hear too.
Thanks for your time.
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You basically either got to go AOSP or TW, all the TW roms will have those features that come with stock working. AOSP roms like CM, AOKP, PA, etc won't have any of the unique TW features like air gestures and etc. In regards to the camera, it won't be the same exact app, but I'm pretty sure AOSP has a few equivalent shooting modes but I don't remember which ones, haven't used the AOSP camera in awhile.
And I'm pretty sure I've read that it won't be possible to merge those TW features, like smart scroll and all that air stuff, into CM and etc. MAYBE if the Google GS4 comes with them we will be able to port them in, but I doubt that'll the Google S4 will.
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So S Beam and S Health won't be ported to AOSP style ROMs either? I'm just trying to figure out which way to go. I like the idea of some of these features, but realistically probably wouldn't use them much. Have you experimented with any ROMs on your S4 yet? Thanks for your response.

SalomonCascade said:
So S Beam and S Health won't be ported to AOSP style ROMs either? I'm just trying to figure out which way to go. I like the idea of some of these features, but realistically probably wouldn't use them much. Have you experimented with any ROMs on your S4 yet? Thanks for your response.
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I'm quite sure that the APK's of those apps are dependent on Touchwiz so they won't work if your on an AOSP rom. That might not be the case for all of them.
Yes sir! I have tried all the main TW roms out, Force Rom is a really slimmed down stock rom with some nice mods, FreeGS4 is a choose and pick everything you want from stock with everything being included and most of it being uninstallable by default, with a bunch of great mods, Blue Kuban is a blue themed out TW rom with a great built in mod downloader/updater. All three are great with different niches. There is also Highway (or something like that) and Untitled rom but those are in their early stages still.
And the AOSP roms are the usuals, CM, AOKP, AOSPA and also SlimBean. If your going to try an AOSP rom I recommend the official CM nightlies or Slimbean as the others are still in beta.
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I've been thinking I would wait for a CM milestone before giving it a shot. Might try Free GS4, that sounds up my ally. Thanks again for the answers. One last question if you have time: Have you considered dual booting?

I have been running ForceRom and have had great success with it. Battery life is great and phone has been running quite smoothly. Link below if you wanna check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261943
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Good question, and good information for new smartphone people such as I.

I am running the Team Sonic rom, I like it quite a bit. Its very similar to stock but with some important tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294607&page=41

First Nexus, any suggestions on first rom to try?

Also, how about a rom that could be used as a daily driver for the wife?

Carbon Rom. If its your wife's phone, chances are she doesn't know how to root and do all that fancy stuff.
Just leave her phone stock unless you want to claim responsibility for anything that she does.

The one in my signature is nice and simple. But I'm with the guy above, if she doesn't know much about technology the stock AOSP rom already on there is already pretty clean and free of bloat.
Course on the other hand, my mom isn't too technical and she's running SlimBean 6 on her Galaxy Tab 2 7.0" just fine. (plus I got it all pink-color themed including the navigation buttons the way she likes it, lol).

CM 10.1 should be everyone's first ROM imho. It's stable and adds more features on the default ROM

Sblast said:
CM 10.1 should be everyone's first ROM imho. It's stable and adds more features on the default ROM
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So is every other rom for the Nexus 4. A unstable rom for N4 is very rare because N4 is a aosp device and has all the binaries available whereas non nexus devices do not.
Make yourself a open book and don't limit yourself to only Cm. Cm o's very strict on their guidelines and don't want to add a bunch of features compared to their old days like Cm7.
Try carbon. It has features all from cm, aokp, paranoid android, etc while being a very speedy rom. You're missing out on a lot of extra goodies such as navigation bar height, halo etc.
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zephiK said:
So is every other rom for the Nexus 4. A unstable rom for N4 is very rare because N4 is a aosp device and has all the binaries available whereas non nexus devices do not.
Make yourself a open book and don't limit yourself to only Cm. Cm o's very strict on their guidelines and don't want to add a bunch of features compared to their old days like Cm7.
Try carbon. It has features all from cm, aokp, paranoid android, etc while being a very speedy rom. You're missing out on a lot of extra goodies such as navigation bar height, halo etc.
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Not from my experience, but good luck.

Best rom? Coming from iPhone

Okay, I've been running Goldeneye rom since I bought my S4.
I came from an iPhone 5.
I really like andriod but I just don't like the lag that it always has...
I don't know how to exactly explain it but here is a good example:
Opening the camera app on an iPhone there was little to no lag it would open up quick to where i can see what im taking a picture of and when i clicked the capture button it would take the pic no hesitant.
S4 is different... idk if its TW or the rom I am using but when I open the camera it takes at least 1-2 secs of delay. Then when taking the picture it has a slight delay again and usually never gets the best shot.
Also opening the Messaging app...
For example: when opening a text and going to click on reply to it the keyboard doesn't come up as fast as it does on the iphone. Im so use to opening and start typing and when I do that i usually miss the whole first word I was going to type.
I don't know if anyone understands what i'm talking about but yeah lol if anyone does understand what have you done to fix this?

TW based ROMs are going to be a bit more system heavy, and you may experience slower response times. If you're looking for speed and customization than I suggest you go with a AOSP/AOKP based ROM, or even a Google edition. I personally use task650 AOKP.
A quick tip for TW, go into your developer options. Phone - About phone - click build 7 times to activate it. Than set all your animation scales to 0 in your developer options. You'll notice 2x more speed on TW.
As for the best ROM.. There isn't. Its all user preference. There's a ton of great ones out.
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Br4nd3n said:
TW based ROMs are going to be a bit more system heavy, and you may experience slower response times. If you're looking for speed and customization than I suggest you go with a AOSP/AOKP based ROM, or even a Google edition. I personally use task650 AOKP.
A quick tip for TW, go into your developer options. Phone - About phone - click build 7 times to activate it. Than set all your animation scales to 0 in your developer options. You'll notice 2x more speed on TW.
As for the best ROM.. There isn't. Its all user preference. There's a ton of great ones out.
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How is the battery life on that?
Goldeneye gets me about a full day of usage.
Also, does it have apps2sd and pictures to sd?

It does. Tasks is a 4.3.1 ROM with apps2sd incorporated. Battery life on an aosp based ROM will generally be better than a TW at stock levels due to it being way less extensive. Though battery really depends on how you use your device.
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If you want to use APT-X Bluetooth codec for hi-def bluetooth, then stay away from AOSP ROM's because they don't have it. Otherwise, my favorite AOSP ROM was Slim Bean.
For an experience that is "stock" framework but looks AOSP and doesn't have a TouchWiz UI, then I'd install KangaBean (Google Edition 4.3) and use xPosed mods to tweak the heck out of it. You can even use the xPosed mod to run CyanogenMOD themes. This is what I'm on now and I'm loving it.
As far as camera goes, I think they all have a small lag when opening camera. Which is annoying to me.

I've started to try and use AOKP by task650 but i cant get LTE on it...
It's a pretty good rom and what i was looking for but no connection = me sad

I've started to try and use AOKP by task650 but i cant get LTE on it...
It's a pretty good rom and what i was looking for but no connection = me sad

honeyp0t said:
I've started to try and use AOKP by task650 but i cant get LTE on it...
It's a pretty good rom and what i was looking for but no connection = me sad
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Personally I would take a look at the Flight5 ROM. I came from an iPhone 4s, and I can honestly say this is the best from I've tried so far.
It is the default ROM, but with nearly all the bloat removed, very fast, great battery life (I average 13 hours on, with 4+ hours screen time, but that does depend on usage), and hardly any lag, if any, when opening the camera.
I've only tested one ASOP GPE ROM, but I found Flight5 to run just as fast and smooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418522
Another thing that has not been mentioned yet, is there is a general consensus that the camera on TW based ROMs is better than those on ASOP based ROMs. I agree with that, from my testing. It's not a huge difference, but it is there.
After installing any ROM, I would recommend taking a look at Xposed modules, particularly WanamXposed. This will allow you to make customizations normally associated with custom ROMs, without having to flash them permanently.

honeyp0t said:
I've started to try and use AOKP by task650 but i cant get LTE on it...It's a pretty good rom and what i was looking for but no connection = me sad
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#1. There are so many roms here and it is worth trying many of them: AOKP can be a bit "bleeding edge" at times, so if you're not getting the results from task's rom for LTE, save time and effort and try another rom!
- Personally I have very good LTE and a very stable, no-lag experience on Shostock rom. It may not appear as flashy as some other roms, (but the bootup animation is ) However, the Shostock threads have been very helpful and there are many responsive/friendly posters (in general)-- it's a bit more relaxed there. Also, several of the add-on packages that iB4STiD provided for GoldenEye are actually built in to shoman94 's roms. So that saves steps.
--Sho has two i377 "Shostock" roms: one is based on the ATT stock rom and is now at android 4.2.2 (VERY stable & battery life nice: a perfect daily driver) here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305752 .
-- Shoman's other i377 rom is based on the international version of the S4, (I9505). It runs perfectly on the i377 and is currently at android 4.3. [Android 4.3 is newer, with a couple of changes from 4.2, but I personally am less crazy about it than 4.2 -just my opinion] Anyway, here is the link to Shostock international rom for the i377 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468860
#2. Also, Br4nd3n's suggestion on turning off animation in developer settings is very good for any rom here. (In the TW rom menus there are three animation options.
=So go to: Settings/ More/ Developer options, and then look for the setting for "Windows animation", "Transition animation" and "Animator during scaling."Set ALL of these to OFF and the lag is generally gone.
I have had some apps that caused lag, so check that too!
#3. Also, FrozenDragoon's comment on the results for TW camera app being better is what I have seen as well. AOSP/KP and Google Edition roms are great in many ways, but their Camera app is not as good as the original Samsung one that TW roms have on them. If camera shots are important, then that's a consideration. If the camera is not as important as flexibility/customization, then GE or AO?P roms are the choice.
#4. CZ Eddie mentioned Xposed framework with (iB4StiD's other great rom) a Google Edition rom for the S4 called Kangabean http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077 . This GE rom is fast and simple, but open to customization with Xposed framework and (I think) Gravity-Box.
- Using those two programs you can tweak the rom in limitless ways. (But it is not a TouchWiz rom, and won't have the Samsung special features). So, if you want customization that's a good direction (albeit with quite a few steps to get there
Good Luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077

You know, the OP never mentioned what Baseband he's on. That will affect suggestions for ROMs.
Are you on MDL, or MF3 with SafeStrap?

FrozenDragoon said:
You know, the OP never mentioned what Baseband he's on. That will affect suggestions for ROMs. Are you on MDL, or MF3 with SafeStrap?
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Wow! That's right. If he has MF3 with Safestrap, he can't use any Android 4.3 rom (yet), he will have to use Android 4.2 roms.
Of course the new GoldenEye is 4.3, but the old one was 4.2. . so it still is not clear

There are NO roms better than the other...period. all this does is start a war....
Check the roms out yourself....thay ARE ALL GOOD in their own way.
here you go, 80+ roms to check and make the decision yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557

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TheAxman said:
There are NO roms better than the other...period. all this does is start a war....
Check the roms out yourself....thay ARE ALL GOOD in their own way.
here you go, 80+ roms to check and make the decision yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
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This is true. Now hit the report button next time and we'll close it up for you