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Rom Addict But...Is this too good??

I've had the Note 2 now since the release in the UK and all I can say is perfection! The barrery life is the best I have ever had! Normally end day at work still on 80-90% (My One X would be dead!)
It is smooth as silk everything works as it should! Its got the latest software already on there...
Im normally the first to root and custom rom and get rid of everything to keep pure google..but with this I dont even feel like putting on a custom rom simply worried that it may ruin it!??? Anyone else keeping away from modding their device or is it just me??

Yep. Dont see the need so far.
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I can understand you, but I rooted the fcuk out of it as soon as I got it! Too many hexcellent apps out there that demand root

Have to agree.
I've not even bothered rooting it yet, which I'd normally do on day 1, and I'm now on day 8.
I will still root at some point though, mostly for the root only apps though.
Note 2 - Android how it should be done!
Regards,
Dave
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Pure perfection does not exist but like most here I guess there is general concensus that this is truly an amazing device we got. Though to myself how boring something that works as good as that. Anyway I use omega and also perseus kernel lovely if you want to try OC an its limit though its fast enough or even beter under volting and this furthermore seems to show how great the HW is.
Things I just dont like is the high 320 dpi funny on tab 7.7 it was too low now here to big for my taste....so waiting with hope to see changes there dreaming about paranoid with full pen support.....
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I haven't modified or put any custom ROM every in my life and won't do it on my Note II as well.
The simpler it is, the better it is.
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+1 I agree fully, this is the best out of the box Samsung device i ever had. Do not feel the need to root at all, let alone flash a custom rom wich atm adds nothing to what we allready have. Kudoz to Sammy in this case

yep agree, no need for a Custom Rom on this. It has everything you need.
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For the moment I don't think root is necessary (i can live with titanium apps not being restored, can be manually done but without its data).
I think I will root only if development breaks through the split screen multitasking to add more apps into it.
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I rooted it but after using a couple different roms I don't see any need for them. I really only wanted root to be able to remove anything I really didn't need and to be able to use any apps that require root. I might eventually use a custom kernel but that's pretty much it.

I have no desire to root my Note 2 at this time as it does everything I want from it and does so seamlessly.
Once I have my T-Mobile provided Note 2 I may well keep the international/unlocked version to toy with new ROM's and root apps. Selling this unit OTOH puts $$ back in my pocket. To be decided later. My daily carry Note 2 will remain factory stock unless a firmware update reduces its versatility or usability.

I will get my Note2 later today and the first thing i will do is root the baby. If it was only for Adfree Android and some other indispensable applications.
I will see about aftermarket ROM's later. It will depend on the usability. And if I hear you guys talking about I think that won't happen for a while.:laugh:

Rooted 15 minutes after I opened the box. I needed to transfer data from my s3
That's the only thing that is badly needed to this android. Anything else can be avoided even from a flash addict like me. ( a flash my nexus 7 twice a day to keep me sane )
There are some useful mods like skip track , call recording etc. I am with wanam 1.1 and everything looks great.
Rom is a choice for note 2 but root is necessity for android.
Come on, you are in xda , you hold an android device , chainfire already gave root and you want to stay unrooted?
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I have bricked my first Note because of flashing addiction first and because of trying to get rid of some of its shortcomings like slow Contact app scrolling etc.now that the new one adressed all of the issues I was complaining from I didnt even see a need for a root so far, the stock ROM seems to be sufficient enogh.

I root all my devices, usually for AdAway, hate ads when browsing. Titanium backup pro as well for back ups. Usually custom roms and kernels bring user fixes to shortcomings in OEM software.
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Yea this phone is really amazing. My only gripe atm is no polaris office which I was sorta expecting. Hopefully soon they will release it. But having to switch from S3 to Note2 I am really satisfied.
With s3 i had to custom rom it on the first day. With this I dont mind the bloat, cause i still have tons of free memory.
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I rooted mainly to swap ext sd with int sd so I can install more stuff
also i cant live without the 15toggle & titanium
Its still as smooth & stable with root. I think samsung has outdone itself this time. This product is just perfect.
The battery life is awsome. it feels like its twice better then Note1.

I gave my wife my SGS III yesterday and got the Note II. I am loving it, right off the bat it does seem smoother than the S3. With that said, I immediately rooted it and installed Omega. Not so much because it needed it, more because I'm pretty much obsessed with the removal of bloatware and apps that I don't use.

toofank said:
I rooted mainly to swap ext sd with int sd so I can install more stuff
also i cant live without the 15toggle & titanium
Its still as smooth & stable with root. I think samsung has outdone itself this time. This product is just perfect.
The battery life is awsome. it feels like its twice better then Note1.
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I haven't rooted mine. I was also a ROM addict on the S I and S II.
But with this TW build I don't really see a need yet. It's really good. I know a lot of people prefer the stock experience, but I personally like many of Samsungs additions.
And yeah, battery life is amazing. Not having to worry about battery life at all is probably the greatest feature of this phone.

[Q] Impacts of Rooting Nexus 7 - Stability

I'm new to the whole Android thing but I used to install lots of roms on my trusty old Windows Mobile devices over the years. I remember then that trying out different roms sometimes meant things would stop working.
Here's my problem. I have a Nexus 7 and it works fine on stock unrooted 4.1.2. I think. I've used the Nexus Root Toolkit to (very easily) unlock and root it. When rooted on stock rom (4.1.1 or 4.1.2), it takes a couple of seconds to turn on from sleep, sometimes needs to reboot, sometimes the gyroscope/acceslerometer locks and doesn't work as it should...
Is a rooted Nexus 7 less stable/reliable than an unrooted one?

littld said:
I'm new to the whole Android thing but I used to install lots of roms on my trusty old Windows Mobile devices over the years. I remember then that trying out different roms sometimes meant things would stop working.
Here's my problem. I have a Nexus 7 and it works fine on stock unrooted 4.1.2. I think. I've used the Nexus Root Toolkit to (very easily) unlock and root it. When rooted on stock rom (4.1.1 or 4.1.2), it takes a couple of seconds to turn on from sleep, sometimes needs to reboot, sometimes the gyroscope/acceslerometer locks and doesn't work as it should...
Is a rooted Nexus 7 less stable/reliable than an unrooted one?
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Rooting doesn't make a difference on stability (or shouldn't)
All rooting does is give you admin rights to parts of the phone not accesible without rooted. Basically...
Customer ROM's for the Nexus at the moment (and sorry about this devs but its true) are not yet up to par with the Stock ROM.
Its stable pretty fast and not bad with battery.
Hope this helps.

Right so after lots of erratic behaviour with rooted stock 4.1.2, I unrooted and relocked the boot loader. It was better already but I've also run the Forever Gone thing and it's now working perfectly.
I would like to root again but not at the expense of stability. I had previously use the Toolkit if it makes any difference.

littld said:
Right so after lots of erratic behaviour with rooted stock 4.1.2, I unrooted and relocked the boot loader. It was better already but I've also run the Forever Gone thing and it's now working perfectly.
I would like to root again but not at the expense of stability. I had previously use the Toolkit if it makes any difference.
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Rooting and/or unlocking the bootloader will have no direct effect on stability. What you do with your device after rooting is entirely a different issue.

Wilks3y said:
Rooting doesn't make a difference on stability (or shouldn't)
All rooting does is give you admin rights to parts of the phone not accesible without rooted. Basically...
Customer ROM's for the Nexus at the moment (and sorry about this devs but its true) are not yet up to par with the Stock ROM.
Its stable pretty fast and not bad with battery.
Hope this helps.
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This would be true if it weren't a Nexus device. We can more or less compile the same ROM that Google shipped. CyanogenMod 10 in my experience has been rock solid stable, though obviously there are still some bugs, I have encountered none. I also used EOS for a little, and that was equally great.

littld said:
Is a rooted Nexus 7 less stable/reliable than an unrooted one?
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Nope.
IF you flash a non stock rom and/or kernel, then it depends on what you use. Read notes and user replies.
Sometimes I do get random shut downs when not in use, both while charging and not charging. I am not sure if that is a 4.1.2 issue or if it's tied to the rom I'm using. Have had it happen on two different roms.

alkemist80 said:
Nope.
IF you flash a non stock rom and/or kernel, then it depends on what you use. Read notes and user replies.
Sometimes I do get random shut downs when not in use, both while charging and not charging. I am not sure if that is a 4.1.2 issue or if it's tied to the rom I'm using. Have had it happen on two different roms.
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I lost the ability to control the music app with my headphone controls after rooting, it didnt happen when I opened the box and played with the nexus

Some apps are written to block rooted devices but there's no way the mere act of unlocking and rooting would affect overall stability.
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After a day on stock rom I thought it was settled but no...
The battery drained down and after that it kept getting stuck at the Google Cross animation. I spent a while re-flashing stock rom and eventually it starts up. Sometimes. The accelerator issue remains but it is less frequent.
I contacted Google who put me on to Asus. They are going to send me an RMA number and we'll take it from there.

how do you revert or reset to a factory state???
I´m new with the nexus 7 so really have no clue

To reset your device, go to "settings", then "backup & reset", and finally "factory data reset".

The difficult in waking is something I went through with my N7. I found there is a bug with the auto-brightness setting. If I use the manual option I don't experience any problems.
I rooted my N7 the day I got it (had experience with SGS and Gnex) and haven't looked back. I haven't had any other issues than the "sleep of death".
Hope this helps.

alankstiyo said:
how do you revert or reset to a factory state???
I´m new with the nexus 7 so really have no clue
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Bit Banger said:
To reset your device, go to "settings", then "backup & reset", and finally "factory data reset".
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If you mean stock non rooted, then the above will set you back to factory.
If you are rooted, that will not remove the root. You will need to flash a stock image to completely return to stock and then re-lock the bootloader.

I seem to have had more problems if the power runs down. I have turned off the auto brightness and I agree it's better in terms of starting up. I still have the issue with rotation not always working. Also, I notice it takes several seconds for the screen to come on when I press the power button. Is that normal?

littld said:
I seem to have had more problems if the power runs down. I have turned off the auto brightness and I agree it's better in terms of starting up. I still have the issue with rotation not always working. Also, I notice it takes several seconds for the screen to come on when I press the power button. Is that normal?
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No, that is not normal, whether you're rooted or not.
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alkemist80 said:
If you mean stock non rooted, then the above will set you back to factory.
If you are rooted, that will not remove the root. You will need to flash a stock image to completely return to stock and then re-lock the bootloader.
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will the toolkit help me do this???
if so will it delete the sd card??
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Okay now it's getting weird. I got an RMA number and they are due to collect it tomorrow and fix it. Since I got the RMA number it has behaved perfectly. I did make a video of the problems but since making the video I've not been able to reproduce them. The battery is down to 14% now, will see what happens when it is fully drained. One major difference is the power button instantly switches the device on whereas it used to wait a few seconds.
Can hardware just fix itself like that? I'm concerned they'll get it and say they can't detect any problems and charge me for the shipping...
I'll keep on testing until morning but if you guys have any ideas please let me know.

alankstiyo said:
will the toolkit help me do this???
if so will it delete the sd card??
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I've used Wug's toolkit to return to compete stock. It will wipe everything. It's a two step process, you will still need to lock the boot loader. Go read the thread in the Android development section.
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It's fine, even rooted so have cancelled the RMA. Hopefully it was just a short term fluke.

Several weeks on I have had no more repetition of these problems. I did have a line flicker occasionally before installing 4.2 but even that problem has gone away now. I just don't understand how the behaviour can be so unpredictable like it needed to settle into its new home or something.

[Q] Is Nexus 7 supposed to be this way? (laggy)

Nexus 7 32GB is my first android device. Before I bought it, most people were saying that android is finally smooth, project butter and so on. But that's not the case here. I'm on 4.2.2 stock, have currents sync disabled, my storage is only half full, and my Nexus is starting to get on my nerves.
- screen rotation takes exactly 4 seconds, no exception.
- apps sometimes freeze, forcing me to force close them or even reboot occasionally.
- even some simple games, like Dragonvale, run like stop motion in certain segments.
- when I install ANY app, it seems that android service responsible to put icon on my home screen takes 100% CPU time for 10-15 seconds or so.
- when there are app updates, my nexus is unusable. Takes 10+ seconds for any action.
Say what you want about windows phone, but that thing flies. Am I maybe spoiled by it's buttery smoothness so android by comparison irritates me, or is there really something wrong with my Nexus? I already did hard reset once, early on. It did not help. Should I try again? If so, what backup solution is the easiest?
I know I might be asking a lot and that there are threads about this already, but info is scattered, and there are numerous contradicting opinions and advices. Basically I am just not sure if this is how it's supposed to be, or should I try something.

The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Terepin said:
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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How do I detect a rouge app? Task manager? Can you recommend one?
It was slow to start with. Disabling currents sync did not help. And I did do reset in the first few days. Did not help.
Now, it's just even more slower. Perhaps by as much as 50% in some actions, if I can put a number on a subjective impression.

Dr.Molestratus said:
Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?

d.a.v.o.r said:
Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
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Well if you want better performance... ROMs and kernels are the things to mess with.
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You should probably flash a ROM/kernel for best performance. But if you still don't want to mess with ROMs, reflash the stock rom and reroot it. That's what helped me.

I've had some issues with my phone lagging during/after app update, and i've only recently nailed down the culprit. Turns out it was the Root Uninstaller app that was making backups of older versions of the apps during the update, it ceased after i turned off the option in it's settings (or just uninstall). My guesstimate would be that you have some app that is doing just that. Because my own n7 doesn't noticeably lag even if i try to update many (as much as 10) apps at the same, which usually kills my single-core SGSL into a reboot shortly after trying this.

I think 4.2 is just buggy. It flies for me sometimes and on some devices, and sometimes it crawls horribly. Maybe the next android version will fix this, maybe not
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This helped me a little (If you don't use Currents then this could help)
1. Go to Settings > Apps > All (swipe right 2 times) > Currents
2. Click "Force Stop"
3. Click "Disable"
It should be now fixed for some of it. Like the earlier posts suggest, maybe reflashing stock ROM or installing a kernel (once you're comfortable) will help for sure.

It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.

AW: [Q] Is Nexus 7 supposed to be this way? (laggy)
If you're having a lot of apps installed you can get ram problems. Some apps are running in the background even if they don't need to. If you wanna know which apps those are simply go to apps and swipe to the second panel. There you can see which asps are running in the background .You should delete them. If you don't want to do that simply download the app Greenify
(You should have more than 200mb free)
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Entropy generator, I just use pimp my ROM, even on stock rooted.
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I'm on paranoid 2.54 which is 4.1 and it feels faster than cm10.1 I miss 4.2.2 fonts but I'll see If I get it.
BR.

d.a.v.o.r said:
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
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Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.

Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Wilks3y said:
Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
ezas said:
Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.

d.a.v.o.r said:
RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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It honestly shouldn't lag like that. Even bone stock.
One thing you can do right away is go into developer settings (click 7 times on Build Number in About Tablet to enable) and change all animation settings to.5 or to none.
DL Root Checker, or just try to use any root app to see if you actually do have root. Even with the wonderful toolkits (which will also save your bacon if you get into a bootloop) getting root to stick can be tricky...you may have to run it a couple of times.
But the best results will come if you flash a custom rom and kernel. if you like a tweaked stock experience, try CleanRom Inheritance. It uses the Aroma installer, so it's very easy and customizable. It can be found under Android Development.

d.a.v.o.r said:
RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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You can use titanium backup. It there others like carbon. But titanium has been around the longest and it's my preferred way. Requires root, and it should warn you at start up if you aren't rooted correctly.
I would do as others suggested and just restore basic apps after factory reboot and re root. Then slowly restore others to see if you notice other problems along the way.
Also, if you didn't know. You can install kernels without wiping tablet and changing the whole Rom. I would definitely try that eventually too.
One more thing to note. Don't judge android on chrome (not that you mentioned it, but I know a lot of newbies have). It's one of the slowest browsers. It has tons of great features which I love, but do slow compared to most others. I wish I wasn't so addicted to its syncing.

Thanks to everyone on advices.
1) root checker says I do not have proper root. Now that I think about it, I did update my Nexus 7 from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2. I guess that also removed root.
2) I will reset. I don't really have any messages or photos or app data that is not already in the cloud that I need to backup.
3) I'll try to gradually install everything app by app to see if it's a rouge app.
4) I'll than revive this thread with my results. Though I doubt I'll get to doing all that in the next few days.
Again, thanks everyone!

What to do with a New Nexus 4? Tweaks? Optimizations?

I recently bought a Nexus 4 and it should be here this coming week.
I was wondering what are the first things I should do to it?
My list:
1. Let it charge to 100% and use till 0% to calibrate battery
2. Root the Phone
3. ???
thanks!

You should definitely unlock the bootloader directly, because this process will delete everything on your phone... When you used your phone some time and want to unlock it then, the backing up and restoring might be annoying.

And don`t drain the battery to 0% or the red light monster might get you.

On top of all that has been said, rooting is worth it, this thread will help you choose a rom & kernel (just remember, no rom is the best, you just have to try some and see what one you like)

Calibration is not needed.
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scream4cheese said:
Calibration is not needed.
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Calibration was a farce.
OP, you need to head over to the dev section and find a kernel. Read the OP's, comments on battery life, functions, etc. and figure out which kernels you want to try first. I would start by running stock with a custom kernel.

mc704, I just want to say, on behalf of the nexus 4 community. Welcome. You will find a huge variety of ROMs, mods, and kernels to choose from. Lots of things to try and customize. Rooting your nexus is the best thing to ever happen to your phone. We are a community driven force to be reckoned with. Just remember one thing while you're here? Please take your time and read up on anything you might have questions about. Most of are more than happy to assist you should you run into a brick wall. We all hope your rooting experience is fulfilling should you choose to do so. Happy flashing.

yes root
install greenify and adway
enjoy

I started of unlocking and flashing AOKP accompanied with franco kernel.
but it's just my bad habit, unbox, don't even boot it once, flash with custom.
(did that to iphone4, htc one X, and now nexus, lol)
after I got used to all of the sweetness of AOKP (oneX), couldnt go back to stock.
forget battery, calibration is myth from the dark age of the nimh batteries
for the beginning, if you have no past experience: unlock, root, flash custom kernel (franco is IMO very decent)
play with it, see what you like and what not, do research and enjoy having the best phone on the market. and being a part of the best community

Flash Paranoid Android

Wow! Thanks so much for the info guys. I checked out some stickies and I know what to do now.
My question now is....what is the majority consensus on a screen protector for the front and back? I searched and there are "many" preferred.

If you want one on the front, make sure you get one that has cut outs for the sensors so it won't cause any issues. But I'm pretty sure by now the all should have the cut outs. As for the back side, if you don't want a case I think you should get a skin for the back. (More info below). I think you should get a case as well to protect the device from accidental falls.
I use to have a screen protector on my phone but I recently took it off because I missed touching the beautiful screen. I'm not worried about scratches. I always make sure I don't have things in my pockets or bags that will scratch my phone. Lol.
skins:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095261
http://dbrand.com/submodels/nexus-4/
cases:
http://www.amazon.com/Diztronic-Mat...=1367808343&sr=8-2&keywords=diztronic+nexus+4
(I use this one and I love it!)
http://www.amazon.com/Matte--Rearth...1367808343&sr=8-12&keywords=diztronic+nexus+4
screen protector (wet application)
http://www.xtremeguard.com/LG-Google-Nexus-4-Screen-Protectors-p/lg-nexus-4-screen-protector.htm
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I would say unlock the bootloader before you download anything, then just use stock for a little while to get a feel for how stock android is on this device. Then if after that you decide it isn't enough or there are some apps or tweaks you want that can only be had with root, root it
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Well As the Nexus is a great developers device. Learn to develop. While flashing roms and mods are great, the device is wasted unless you learn something.

thanks everyone for their help!

I'm thinking of ordering a nexus but don't know if I should wait for the io first.
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Alaris said:
I'm thinking of ordering a nexus but don't know if I should wait for the io first.
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I think you should wait for it. The conference is going to be held next week! I can't wait!
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Hey there all and OP. like everyone is saying you should unlock the boot loader and I'd say roll with Stock for a bit. I find that after going from one ROM to another, I find myself going back to Stock-Rooted all the time. Something about it feels smooth and it flies. Look into custom kernels and Build Prop tweaks. The latter could potentially increase your data speeds. It has with mine noticeably.
And as for the person who is debating about getting this device, I say go for it. When the next Nexus comes out just sell the N4 for it. That's the beauty of the Nexus program. Either way you'll get the newest version of Android.
Just my two cents.

Here is what i have done with my new Nexus 4....
http://tmblr.co/ZXERCtjeAt-j

I'm using Franco kernel with his kernel updater tool. Great performance and optimization tweaks! A must-have!

Wifi tether

Ok so I'm tired of flashing ROM's and have home stock rooted on NC4. I really only do it so I can tether for free. So my question is how do I enable tether without getting the warning that I have to pay for it? I can't find entitlement check in settings database on sqlite. Please help. Thanks
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w4itg said:
Ok so I'm tired of flashing ROM's and have home stock rooted on NC4. I really only do it so I can tether for free. So my question is how do I enable tether without getting the warning that I have to pay for it? I can't find entitlement check in settings database on sqlite. Please help. Thanks
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The only method I know of is an Xposed module. I know for certain Wanam Xposed has the option to turn off tether provisioning. There seems to be a disconnect when rooting that causes 3rd party apps like what verizon requires to use hotspot/tethering. Many custom apps take care of the issue for us, but as for how to do this without either of the aforementioned solutions I do not know.

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The only method I know of is an Xposed module. I know for certain Wanam Xposed has the option to turn off tether provisioning. There seems to be a disconnect when rooting that causes 3rd party apps like what verizon requires to use hotspot/tethering. Many custom apps take care of the issue for us, but as for how to do this without either of the aforementioned solutions I do not know.
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Thanks for trying. All of the ROM devs do it somehow. Even stripped down objective rom is able to do it. I was just wondering how? I made the big mistake of doing a full data wipe on the stock slot and bricked my phone big time. I had to Odin NC4 tar file to bring it back and now am 100% stock rooted and frankly becoming bored with flashing stuff. Almost ready to go to Crapple but there's no working around the tether provision on there I'm sure. I just can't seem to find anything to my liking.
Once again thanks you're the only one that's ever answered me after asking twice. :thumbup:
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w4itg said:
Thanks for trying. All of the ROM devs do it somehow. Even stripped down objective rom is able to do it. I was just wondering how? I made the big mistake of doing a full data wipe on the stock slot and bricked my phone big time. I had to Odin NC4 tar file to bring it back and now am 100% stock rooted and frankly becoming bored with flashing stuff. Almost ready to go to Crapple but there's no working around the tether provision on there I'm sure. I just can't seem to find anything to my liking.
Once again thanks you're the only one that's ever answered me after asking twice. :thumbup:
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My pleasure.
Just taking a guess but I think it would be a build.prop edit.
I hear you about flashing roms, I have flashed many times. Of course along the way I have learned a lot, not enough to give in to the desire to learn how to dev yet, lmao. I also know the woes of the "OMG did I brick my phone?" But still I would never go to Apple. I really don't like proprietary companies, as Samsung has become a big one, I may never buy a Samsung again, however the great thing about Android is that we have choices, and as reluctant as I have been and even still am, as a consumer I have the choice to leave Verizon for someone how will give me the freedoms I believe I pay for. So far I just haven't been willing to sacrifice certain benefits, but as they become more and more outweighed by imposed restrictions, capitalism gives me the right to choose what who I give my money to.

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My pleasure.
Just taking a guess but I think it would be a build.prop edit.
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I have no idea how to do build.prop edits. Really all I would like is a nice simple ROM with some light theming, "inverted theming actually", that I can add what I want. Objective ROM seems awesome but I can't seem to find a set of inverted apps to my liking. I ran Objective for one night went to bed @ 90% & woke up at 90% 7 hours later although at that point I didn't add anything to it. Really the only app I can't find inverted that will work is Gmail.
I really wish I knew how to do some of this stuff myself I'd make my own ROM but I haven't a clue.
Once again thanks. :thumbup:
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w4itg said:
I have no idea how to do build.prop edits. Really all I would like is a nice simple ROM with some light theming, "inverted theming actually", that I can add what I want. Objective ROM seems awesome but I can't seem to find a set of inverted apps to my liking. I ran Objective for one night went to bed @ 90% & woke up at 90% 7 hours later although at that point I didn't add anything to it. Really the only app I can't find inverted that will work is Gmail.
I really wish I knew how to do some of this stuff myself I'd make my own ROM but I haven't a clue.
Once again thanks. :thumbup:
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I have the same desires for inverted apps, and of course the couple of people that actually work on themed Gapps seem to keep Gmail on the back burner. I used All Backs Black theme which covers most TW stuff (settings, dialer, mms). I was on Objective for a while but then I learned how to debloat myself because some things I wanted to use on Objective were broken because of everything that has been removed from that rom. What I've found is that with a good amount of debloating, battery life can be good on any rom. While never quite as good as on Objective, Eclipse and Alliance have both shown good battery length. For example yesterday after reflashing Alliance to fix something I broke, I started with around 60% at about 2pm, and put it on charge at around 20% at around 9pm. The entire time my screen was on and I was doing stuff on it. 7 hours of on screen time for 40% battery and all before the 48 hour period of rom settlement.
My standby battery drain is almost always as it was on Objective losing no more than 2% over an 8 hour period.

kinstre11 said:
I have the same desires for inverted apps, and of course the couple of people that actually work on themed Gapps seem to keep Gmail on the back burner. I used All Backs Black theme which covers most TW stuff (settings, dialer, mms). I was on Objective for a while but then I learned how to debloat myself because some things I wanted to use on Objective were broken because of everything that has been removed from that rom. What I've found is that with a good amount of debloating, battery life can be good on any rom. While never quite as good as on Objective, Eclipse and Alliance have both shown good battery length. For example yesterday after reflashing Alliance to fix something I broke, I started with around 60% at about 2pm, and put it on charge at around 20% at around 9pm. The entire time my screen was on and I was doing stuff on it. 7 hours of on screen time for 40% battery and all before the 48 hour period of rom settlement.
My standby battery drain is almost always as it was on Objective losing no more than 2% over an 8 hour period.
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I also tried that All Backs Black theme (kudos to him). I also tried Eclipse (1st ROM I ever flashed on a phone, OG Moto Razr) but it doesn't come stock inverted for the most part and requires you to pay now to get the inverted theming (boo).
I just want something nice and simple like Objective and dark theming (only so it's easier to see when I'm driving especially at night, my eyes are very sensitive to light). I really don't use all of the cool features of this phone because I really only have it for it's screen size & being able to use the pen for swiping (typing). I'm a truck driver in case you can't tell & just need to stay connected while on the road. I've just recently starting using email to communicate with dispatch and the office so I don't need a whole lot of features on my phone. It's why I liked Objective so much.
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w4itg said:
I also tried that All Backs Black theme (kudos to him). I also tried Eclipse (1st ROM I ever flashed on a phone, OG Moto Razr) but it doesn't come stock inverted for the most part and requires you to pay now to get the inverted theming (boo).
I just want something nice and simple like Objective and dark theming (only so it's easier to see when I'm driving especially at night, my eyes are very sensitive to light). I really don't use all of the cool features of this phone because I really only have it for it's screen size & being able to use the pen for swiping (typing). I'm a truck driver in case you can't tell & just need to stay connected while on the road. I've just recently starting using email to communicate with dispatch and the office so I don't need a whole lot of features on my phone. It's why I liked Objective so much.
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Completely understandable. Good luck with your tethering situation.