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New maps update?

Has anyone heard of this or downloaded it? Its apparently just for *bug fixes* I wonder if this fixes some of the map draining issues.
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There is no "battery drain" with the app itself. What you are seeing is the location services. It shows up as maps in the battery monitor.
The more location services you have activated, the more you will see battery usage.
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Yea I know that but even when I had maps and Google now active on my old Gnex my battery life wasn't hit anywhere near as bad as it is on the N4. I'm sure many can attest to that. That's why I was wondering.
Could it be more do to the os running on the N4 different than the nexus?
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Nocturnal86 said:
Yea I know that but even when I had maps and Google now active on my old Gnex my battery life wasn't hit anywhere near as bad as it is on the N4. I'm sure many can attest to that. That's why I was wondering.
Could it be more do to the os running on the N4 different than the nexus?
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It's the way the kernel is developed. When you touch the screen on stock kernel, it ramps up the frequency to 1000.
And some people saying that min freq is 1000 and max freq is 1500

I've haven't noticed much difference between the gnex and N4 with maps usage. I have noticed that turning off latitude and "report from this device" drastically lowers battery usage.
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It's the way the kernel is developed. When you touch the screen on stock kernel, it ramps up the frequency to 1000.
And some people saying that min freq is 1000 and max freq is 1500
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Oh really well if that's the case do you think that would he fixed in a software update? Cause I'm gonna stick to stock right now till more ROM development matures.
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El Daddy said:
I've haven't noticed much difference between the gnex and N4 with maps usage. I have noticed that turning off latitude and "report from this device" drastically lowers battery usage.
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Well that was the first thing I noticed when I was using it. The maps would drain and GPS would get stuck and still gets stuck on with certain apps. So I just turn off and force close maps now and my battery is much better. Not great but better.
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Nexus 4 running hot

Hey guys i have a little problem here, i flashed a few roms over the months and now i flash pacman then my phone starts to run hot then later the same day i flash aokp and it still runs hot.
I don't even have to be doing anything heavy very litght stuff like listening to music or even having the screen on will make my phone run up to 40c or 105f, this has never happened in the past because in the past my phone mostly ran below 31c.
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JayMix said:
Hey guys i have a little problem here, i flashed a few roms over the months and now i flash pacman then my phone starts to run hot then later the same day i flash aokp and it still runs hot.
I don't even have to be doing anything heavy very litght stuff like listening to music or even having the screen on will make my phone run up to 40c or 105f, this has never happened in the past because in the past my phone mostly ran below 31c.
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thats not hot. human body temp is 37C, 98.6F. is it warmer around you now then it was before?

It may be caused by the weather. Summer is coming if you live in the northern hemisphere.

I have only experienced the Nexus getting extremely hot when playing certain games that try to establish a constant connection to facebook.
Other than that no heat issues.

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It may be caused by the weather. Summer is coming if you live in the northern hemisphere.
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I live in Illinois not to far from Chicago and it just hit 90 degrees F a few days ago so its a possibility. But still on these cool nights it gets hot just this morning my phone was at 26c and after sending this message its already past 32c.
Another question is what temps are yall getting after light use with your phones?
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If I browse on websites for too long on my N4, it gets hot in the upper left corner of the phone. I'm in Canada and it's not exactly hot here.

In in the UK. Sat outside with light usage and running at 28°C.
Indoors is normal for me to see 32-40° with screen on.
Unless gaming I wouldnt be concerned with battery temps below 45°
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K thx yall, thx for the feedback too. I guess this is kinda normal, well i hope its normal.
By the way which is the hottest any of you seen a nexus 4 get without shutting down or burning up?
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I knew it! With cm i got about 15 hours light use but with aokp im getting about 5 hours of life from my phone! XD plz help.
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JayMix said:
K thx yall, thx for the feedback too. I guess this is trtinormal, well i hope its normal.
By the way which is the hottest any of you seen a nexus 4 get without shutting down or burning up?
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without shutting down or burning up? 99C. with shutting down, 100C. but i was trying to see how hot i can get it.

Thats not hot, but if you want it cooler you can always UV.

Nexus 4 4.3 not charging when overheated

As the title says. It stops charging.
If I press *#*#4636#*#* it shows ac connected but not charging.
This started on 4.3. Never saw this on 4.2.2
Edit: pics at post 6
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It's probably a safety net feature. To avoid complete meltdown. Charging heats up the phone too.
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Misledz said:
It's probably a safety net feature. To avoid complete meltdown. Charging heats up the phone too.
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Yes it might be but it is really weird cause when it stops charging, it doesn't resume once the phone has cooled down. You have to unplug and replug.
Which isn't very helpful.
Btw totally stock.
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mariosraptor said:
Yes it might be but it is really weird cause when it stops charging, it doesn't resume once the phone has cooled down. You have to unplug and replug.
Which isn't very helpful.
Btw totally stock.
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That's happened to me when play in summer and just use the fan. Checking the cpu temp shouldn't clock past 50 degrees or it gets pretty bad. I usually just place it in the fan, then on the air conditioner for a minute or two and usually keep the cpu status app open to watch the drop in temperature. Atleast Nexus keeps this safety throttle, S4 would probably give you a nice bacon house.
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Misledz said:
That's happened to me when play in summer and just use the fan. Checking the cpu temp shouldn't clock past 50 degrees or it gets pretty bad. I usually just place it in the fan, then on the air conditioner for a minute or two and usually keep the cpu status app open to watch the drop in temperature. Atleast Nexus keeps this safety throttle, S4 would probably give you a nice bacon house.
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I think is not CUP related but battery related. I am trying to upload 2 pics but for some reason upload is not working.
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Well if the cpu heats up so will the battery both are working hand in hand. It's like your engine is hot and so will your spark plug be. For the safety of the parts and since lithium ion batteries are dangerous when overheated, it's a safety net.
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Misledz said:
Well if the cpu heats up so will the battery both are working hand in hand. It's like your engine is hot and so will your spark plug be. For the safety of the parts and since lithium ion batteries are dangerous when overheated, it's a safety net.
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I guess you're right, but it's pretty annoying imo.
Finally the pics
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mariosraptor said:
I guess you're right, but it's pretty annoying imo.
Finally the pics
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For someone who's Russian. Your English is impressive I couldn't understand much from the screenshot but I am curious, people say the guru app is useless since it's placebo effect
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Misledz said:
For someone who's Russian. Your English is impressive I couldn't understand much from the screenshot but I am curious, people say the guru app is useless since it's placebo effect
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Haha. Thanks I am Greek not Russian
The two screenshots just show how the one in the higher temp is still charging and a few minutes later it stopped and the other one with the low temp says that battery is overheated, AC connected but not charging.
The guru app I think it helps a bit as about 5%, but no more than that.
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Misledz said:
For someone who's Russian. Your English is impressive I couldn't understand much from the screenshot but I am curious, people say the guru app is useless since it's placebo effect
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Thats greek i guess ... Im from México so my only different char from english is the ñ
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Gs4 hot?

I just got a gs4 and am coming from the gs3. Does this phone run hot normally? Seemed warm on stock and hotter once I tried to install the freegs4 ROM. Even shut down twice.
Edit: flashed a different ROM and kernel and am all good.
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Yeah I noticed when flashing certain Roms and setting it up, it gets very hot that it shuts itself off.
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Always a kernel man not the rom
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bonebeatz1234 said:
Always a kernel man not the rom
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Not true on my part. I've flashed stock deodexed MF9 rom with Stock MF9, Agats, and Ktoonz kernel. All resulted in the phone heating up and shutting down on its own.
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daniel4653 said:
Not true on my part. I've flashed stock deodexed MF9 rom with Stock MF9, Agats, and Ktoonz kernel. All resulted in the phone heating up and shutting down on its own.
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You might want to take it to sprint in that case, only time it gets semi hot is when im using wifi hotspot and making a call at same time on my part
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So I have tried 4 different ROMs and 3 different kernels and the heat issue keeps happening. Right now I was using the latest Venum ROM and the ktoonz kernel and the phone shut off due to the heat. Stupid phone, I just got it on Sunday. Never had this issue on my epic or e4gt or gs3.
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dante32278 said:
So I have tried 4 different ROMs and 3 different kernels and the heat issue keeps happening. Right now I was using the latest Venum ROM and the ktoonz kernel and the phone shut off due to the heat. Stupid phone, I just got it on Sunday. Never had this issue on my epic or e4gt or gs3.
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are you overclocking or undervolting on ktoonz? when does it got hot? whats running in the background?

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are you overclocking or undervolting on ktoonz? when does it got hot? whats running in the background?
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The only kernel adjustments were to the governor and scheduler (using smartass and sio, no alterations to either). I just tried using the rescan media disabler apk to see if maybe my media was causing the phone to run hot. It seemed to be the only thing going in the background.
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dante32278 said:
The only kernel adjustments were to the governor and scheduler (using smartass and sio, no alterations to either). I just tried using the rescan media disabler apk to see if maybe my media was causing the phone to run hot. It seemed to be the only thing going in the background.
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is it heating up during usage,charging,sitting there......? have you actually physically looked at the battery to make sure its not cracked or swollen?

xxaddictedxx said:
is it heating up during usage,charging,sitting there......? have you actually physically looked at the battery to make sure its not cracked or swollen?
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Usually the heat starts when I am using the phone, which is usually browsing the internet or reading up on sports news. Screen off or charging I have been OK so far. As far as the battery, it appears to be in good physical condition. I also have 2 OEM batteries by Anker that experience the same issue. So far so good, though - been using the phone moderately since the last shut down earlier today and it seems ok at this moment.

dante32278 said:
Usually the heat starts when I am using the phone, which is usually browsing the internet or reading up on sports news. Screen off or charging I have been OK so far. As far as the battery, it appears to be in good physical condition. I also have 2 OEM batteries by Anker that experience the same issue. So far so good, though - been using the phone moderately since the last shut down earlier today and it seems ok at this moment.
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if it heats up really bad again try underclocking a step and see if that helps.....phone might be getting hot because your chip is poorly coated and the higher frequiencies are heating it up enough to shut the device down. you may have to underclock by one or 2 steps to ensure its not a consistent issue.....worth a shot anyways. unless you do high graphic gaming and multitask with 8 apps at once your really dont need the higher clock speeds anyways.

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if it heats up really bad again try underclocking a step and see if that helps.....phone might be getting hot because your chip is poorly coated and the higher frequiencies are heating it up enough to shut the device down. you may have to underclock by one or 2 steps to ensure its not a consistent issue.....worth a shot anyways. unless you do high graphic gaming and multitask with 8 apps at once your really dont need the higher clock speeds anyways.
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Good idea, hopefully I won't need to! Appreciate the feedback.

If you just got this phone Friday then I would return to stock, run triangle away and exchange it. What you describe isn't normal, why take a chance and get stuck with a bad phone when you are within the exchange window.
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Try the stock kernel and rom and if it still get hot take it back. Try stock kernel it works man the others just cause me trouble.
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Thanks all. I loaded up the latest Sac ROM and ktoonz kernwl, but disabled media scanner. No more hot issues. I guess it running like crazy in the background caused the battery to commit suicide.
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Seriously guys, your S4 doesn't heat up at all???
I'm back to 100% stock everything (kernel, rom) and running this for a couple weeks. I've completed several factory resets and whatnot as well through those weeks. I know my install was clean as could be.
Now, my phone gets hot at seemingly random times. sometimes playing games, for sure while navigating with GPS and sometimes when its just sitting there. I monitor things with Better Battery Stats and keep an eye on the CPU Spy. I'm achieving deep sleep most often. Some of this is caused by the god awful Sprint service here and the constant search for signal, but I was hoping that this wouldn't get as hot as the S3.
so, should I seek a refurb from Sprint? I have the insurance. I am just afraid that a refurb would do me no better.
My biggest gripes are heating up occasionally, WiFi disconnect issues. I hope 4.3 can help some of these.

Strange heating.

I noticed that my nexus 7 is hitting 37c really fast and around the camera front and back. Is anyone have the same problem?
And I'm doubting that it's the torrent downloader with the stupid name.
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brenty108 said:
I noticed that my nexus 7 is hitting 37c really fast and around the camera front and back. Is anyone have the same problem?
And I'm doubting that it's the torrent downloader with the stupid name.
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37C isn't all that hot for hardware. It's rated for twice that

37ºC is stone cold for hardware.
I wouldn't even bother unless it's going over 70ºC alot since in the long run it will diminish the hardware life.
Besides, I doubt a stock N7 will hit those temperatures even during heavy gaming unless you're living on a very hot place by default.
So, don't worry.