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Home screen reloading issue?

Hi everyone. Home screen reloads/ restarts are a common issue on the international sgs3. Anyone here experiencing the same problem under heavy usage?

Not a thing after 2 days. Been trying games, apps and the whole nine yards most of the time without any reloads or restarts for almost anything.
Amazing, coming from an Atrix.

nativestranger said:
Hi everyone. Home screen reloads/ restarts are a common issue on the international sgs3. Anyone here experiencing the same problem under heavy usage?
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Hey OP this will NOT be an issue. This thing has 2GB of RAM...even with a ton of apps running I always have at least 800-900MB of RAM free at all times. Android will never have to restart the launcher so you'll never get homescreen redraws. The issue you're seeing is because of the less RAM and the TW launcher having to be killed in memory to free up memory and then reloaded.

Diviance said:
Not a thing after 2 days. Been trying games, apps and the whole nine yards most of the time without any reloads or restarts for almost anything.
Amazing, coming from an Atrix.
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Thanks. How about multitasking? If you leave the browser open and go to other apps will it kill off the browser and make you reload the tabs?

nativestranger said:
Thanks. How about multitasking? If you leave the browser open and go to other apps will it kill off the browser and make you reload the tabs?
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Nope. Again 2GB of RAM!!!
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mobilehavoc said:
Nope. Again 2GB of RAM!!!
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You do realize this restarting has absolutely nothing to do with available RAM, and everything to do with buggy Samsung coding in TW3, right?
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mobilehavoc said:
Nope. Again 2GB of RAM!!!
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Thanks for the info. This is a real problem on the international gs3.

Goronok said:
You do realize this restarting has absolutely nothing to do with available RAM, and everything to do with buggy Samsung coding in TW3, right?
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Not true, the same issue happens on Sense phones like HOX because of available memory. Android will dump TW or Sense from RAM if it runs out of available memory so the app you are currently using can function fine. Then when you finish with that app, the launcher has to be reloaded to memory which is the refreshing you see.
It's a known/documented issue. More RAM solves the problem because the launcher (along with many other apps) remain in memory always since there's plenty of free memory for other apps.
This is triple confirmed from my experience using a Galaxy Nexus, HOX and now a US GS3. Even if I use Nova Launcher on all 3 if I really push them the GN and HOX will refresh Nova once in a while while the GS3 will never do that.
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At a technical level in all computer systems (mobile or desktop, etc.) MORE RAM = LESS PAGING.
Read this -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging

Goronok said:
You do realize this restarting has absolutely nothing to do with available RAM, and everything to do with buggy Samsung coding in TW3, right?
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You are wrong. It has EVERYTHING to do with RAM. Hence the NA versions of this phone will not see the problem.

This is with tons of apps and services running. I've been watching it, it rarely drops lower than 800MB.
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Thanks. How about multitasking? If you leave the browser open and go to other apps will it kill off the browser and make you reload the tabs?
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As of yet, even while running probably 10+ apps at once, I have yet to have had any have to reload anything when coming back to them even after a few hours.
It has to do with RAM and the memkill settings the company used on the device. The OneX has ridiculously aggressive settings, for example.

More ram just masks the real problem, poorly written software. 1gb should be more than enough on phones. If WIN7 can run on 1gb, a phone should have no issues. 2gb is just a marketing tool atm. One X is rarely using over 500mb ram on my device.
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nativestranger said:
Thanks for the info. This is a real problem on the international gs3.
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No its not
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c5satellite2 said:
More ram just masks the real problem, poorly written software. 1gb should be more than enough on phones. If WIN7 can run on 1gb, a phone should have no issues. 2gb is just a marketing tool atm. One X is rarely using over 500mb ram on my device.
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What you say may be true. The problem is definitely due to partly poor memory management by software. For example on my international SGS3 when I have about 150mb left and i open a memory heavy app it chose to kill off my home launcher or my browser (2 frequently accessed apps) instead of a bunch of inactive cached apps. ICS/ Touchwiz seems very agressive in auto caching unwanted apps but very reluctant to free up memory by quiting those cached apps.
Now we don't know if this is Samsungs fault or google ICS fault but several phones on ICS all have this regressed memory management issue from gingerbread. There is not much that can be done to improve the situation. So it looks like a 2GB phone is the best bet at the moment if you want proper multitasking experience on ICS.

brian6685 said:
No its not
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Speak for yourself. Several members including me have already encountered home launcher or even music player quiting when using the browser.

Nvm..
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nativestranger said:
Thanks for the info. This is a real problem on the international gs3.
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No its not lol I have both and I'll tell u the us version lags more often but it also can use more apps like I ever use 12 apps at once also its funny cause I think the ram issues are now gone I have no reloads not one even running many apps
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This is definitely an issue on the American version. Every time I hit home the stock launcher reloads. Tmobile s3 btw.

PePPaZ said:
This is definitely an issue on the American version. Every time I hit home the stock launcher reloads. Tmobile s3 btw.
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Something is very wrong with the TMobile version. No such issues on AT&T
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Yea AT&T here, never reloads.
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Jelly Bean RAM Hog

OK guys after spending two days with the new Samsung official software I was wondering if anyone else thinks that its a RAM hog. I have to keep killing the apps in the task manager otherwise I see lag while opening apps and things. Anyone else think this? Or could this possibly be because I quickly loaded about 40 apps onto the device? Any thoughts? Personally I hope Samsung will just improve and mature the software and it will get smoother. If not I might grab one of those deodexed ROMs.
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Official software, stock kernel?
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Yes, I'll edit that in. Thanks for pointing it out.
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mdemons12 said:
OK guys after spending two days with the new Samsung official software I was wondering if anyone else thinks that its a RAM hog. I have to keep killing the apps in the task manager otherwise I see lag while opening apps and things. Anyone else think this? Or could this possibly be because I quickly loaded about 40 apps onto the device? Any thoughts? Personally I hope Samsung will just improve and mature the software and it will get smoother. If not I might grab one of those deodexed ROMs.
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I heard that Android loads apps in RAM for faster use unlike Windows. So if you close them, it loads them again, and that causes more bettery use. So why don't you try the phone without closing apps and compare which works better. Some poorly written apps cause lag and consume alot of system resourses. They should be closed and better be uninstalled.
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im having major laggs here and there and then i gotta reboot sometimes regardless of rom jb that is wierd
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mdemons12 said:
OK guys after spending two days with the new Samsung official software I was wondering if anyone else thinks that its a RAM hog. I have to keep killing the apps in the task manager otherwise I see lag while opening apps and things. Anyone else think this? Or could this possibly be because I quickly loaded about 40 apps onto the device? Any thoughts? Personally I hope Samsung will just improve and mature the software and it will get smoother. If not I might grab one of those deodexed ROMs.
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Get OMEGA 27. It is very snappy. Make sure you do a complete wipe meaning formatting system and reinstalling all your apps.
It is very snappy. Do a custom install and choose to install or not install V6 SUper Charger which always leaves 200 mb of free ram. Your phone won't multitask as well but it will keep everything fluid.
Although I optioned not to install V6, and everything has been perfectly fine.
YOu can always install or uninstall mods thanks to OMEGA FILES that comes with the phone. Highly recommended.

SlimJ87D said:
Get OMEGA 27. It is very snappy. Make sure you do a complete wipe meaning formatting system and reinstalling all your apps.
It is very snappy. Do a custom install and choose to install or not install V6 SUper Charger which always leaves 200 mb of free ram. Your phone won't multitask as well but it will keep everything fluid.
Although I optioned not to install V6, and everything has been perfectly fine.
YOu can always install or uninstall mods thanks to OMEGA FILES that comes with the phone. Highly recommended.
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I'm on CheckRom 5.5 because 3.5 was so good for me on ICS.. But 5.5 is leaving much to be desired, maybe I'll try Omega

tawheed12 said:
I'm on CheckRom 5.5 because 3.5 was so good for me on ICS.. But 5.5 is leaving much to be desired, maybe I'll try Omega
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Free RAM is wasted RAM
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sean.geary said:
Free RAM is wasted RAM
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True...
Your optimal ram ram should be 100~110<ram<150~200

SlimJ87D said:
Get OMEGA 27. It is very snappy. Make sure you do a complete wipe meaning formatting system and reinstalling all your apps.
It is very snappy. Do a custom install and choose to install or not install V6 SUper Charger which always leaves 200 mb of free ram. Your phone won't multitask as well but it will keep everything fluid.
Although I optioned not to install V6, and everything has been perfectly fine.
YOu can always install or uninstall mods thanks to OMEGA FILES that comes with the phone. Highly recommended.
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I just did a Google search of it and it seems that the quadrant score is fairly low and about the same as stock? Is that true and reflective on the ROMs performance?
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So I had a quick look around and I think it would be between the RonenROM and Omega v27. Thing I can' stand about custom ROMs is the frequent updates and having to reinstall ROMs and that. Anyway, I might chuck one if them on. Any thoughts?
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Root and remove kies.exe and disable ripple effect for me always 400 mb free
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mdemons12 said:
So I had a quick look around and I think it would be between the RonenROM and Omega v27. Thing I can' stand about custom ROMs is the frequent updates and having to reinstall ROMs and that. Anyway, I might chuck one if them on. Any thoughts?
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Why are you worried? I stuck with Omega 13 for months. You should only force an update if you were:
1. Trying a test rom and then official came out.
2. Or if it has problems and a X.1 version came out.
Omega only updates every time a leak rom appears but that doesn't mean you have to update.
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mdemons12 said:
I just did a Google search of it and it seems that the quadrant score is fairly low and about the same as stock? Is that true and reflective on the ROMs performance?
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I haven't checked quadrant but the point of Jelly Bean is that it implements a better use of a GUI than ICS. So quadrant isn't going to take those kind of things into account.
Omega 27 is working better than Indies last ICS for me which was 13.1
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mdemons12 said:
I just did a Google search of it and it seems that the quadrant score is fairly low and about the same as stock? Is that true and reflective on the ROMs performance?
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quadrant doesn't mean a thing about how snappy the rom is.
Uninstall quadrant as it serves no REAL purpose.

stock odexed here, just cleaned up 300mb of bloatware. RAM at the end of 2 days is 600MB used, didn't cleaned up RAM. You better don't cleanup, it will just piss off the apps and will consume more juice.

V6 supercharger for i9505?

Is it possible to have some kind of V6 supercharger mod for i9505 too?
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Why would u need this ?
The phone is damn near light speed already.
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You don't need that...
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Okay.. but i see ram usage is high from time to time..
So why not ??
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joeherlev said:
Okay.. but i see ram usage is high from time to time..
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High Ram usage is great. It means a lot of stuff is being cached and ready to execute in an instant when you want to.
What's the point of having a 2GB phone while only using a fraction of it...
So why not ??
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Because those apps/scripts usually do more harm than good...

I have a S4 and I have it set on max 500
CPU DONT ASK HOW LOL... And my phone is hyper fast.......
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joeherlev said:
Okay.. but i see ram usage is high from time to time..
So why not ??
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Please unlearn those misconceptions about Android RAM usage.
Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
Android, like Mac OS and Ubuntu, wants to use all the RAM it can, because that's how it was designed to work. There are settings (in Android we call them "minfree" settings) to tell the system how much RAM to leave free and available, but the rest is designed to fill up as fast as possible and stay that way.
You're probably thinking "What's it filling up with?" That's a great question. After the system, graphics, radios, and any other tweaks to RAM are done loading, the rest is there to load apps into memory, right up to the point where the OS says to stop. Load the app as it's being used, and keep it there for the next time until it needs flushed to free space for something else. The more you use the system, the better it gets at keeping the right things loaded and ready to go. Think about how you use your phone -- you might have 100 apps installed, but there are a few you always are opening and using. Eventually, most of those apps will be stored in your RAM, simply because you're always opening them and loading them into the RAM if they weren't already there -- and "erasing" other apps that were there first. Loading an app from your storage takes longer, is harder on the battery, and overall worse than loading it from it's cached position in RAM.
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SOURCE...
Not the best explanation but should help turn the tide...

Gillion said:
Please unlearn those misconceptions about Android RAM usage.
SOURCE...
Not the best explanation but should help turn the tide...
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free ram is not wasted. you are the one who has misconceptions
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hisname said:
free ram is not wasted. you are the one who has misconceptions
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OK... within a specific context we are both correct.
So let me make my context more clear.
Unused ram is wasted RAM... if that is the wording most accurate.
If the RAM of your device has most of your favorite apps in background running or cached... its better for the system... rather than constantly loading it fresh from NAND and pulling last computed data from cache.
Lag can kick in when an app that is currently running (such as top line games) needs more space and it has to wait on the os memory manager to clear out background apps that haven't been used for a while... ugghh
Recently for early GS4 ROMS with the camera crash issue, when RAM falls below 200-Megs... the memory manager is too slow to free up enough "used" RAM for the Camera app causing a very slow and laggy camera or worse reboot of the device.
One work around is to use developer mode and limit the number of processes to 4... thus a minimum amount of "free and unused" ram was assured and the camera would not load slowly or reboot the device when loading,
It seems like this whole unused ram issue will always be with android until we get phones with 4Gigs of RAM... yeah righ;pt

[Q] Any ideas? or suggestion?

Alright so obviously I have the nexus 4. This really isnt a big problem for you guys I just need quick help.
You see I'm getting really bored. Maybe because its a developer phone and I'm obviously not a developer. I keep trying to sell it and since my birthday was today I almost got the galaxy s4.
I just keep thinking if there was something I could. do to this phone to make it as cool as the galaxy s4 I'm just not impressed.
I have rooted
I have over clocked.
Installed custom ROM
I just need Idk features that make the phone cool. Or something that'll keep me busy so I'm not bored.
Thanks

rangerforces83 said:
Alright so obviously I have the nexus 4. This really isnt a big problem for you guys I just need quick help.
You see I'm getting really bored. Maybe because its a developer phone and I'm obviously not a developer. I keep trying to sell it and since my birthday was today I almost got the galaxy s4.
I just keep thinking if there was something I could. do to this phone to make it as cool as the galaxy s4 I'm just not impressed.
I have rooted
I have over clocked.
Installed custom ROM
I just need Idk features that make the phone cool. Or something that'll keep me busy so I'm not bored.
Thanks
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you need a feature phone, go get a sgs4. the nexus 4 isnt cool enough for you.

simms22 said:
you need a feature phone, go get a sgs4. the nexus 4 isnt cool enough for you.
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I love it considering it can do almost anything. Its not really the features its just since I'm a noon I don't know how to experiment on the phone.
I'm not like you who wonders what they do. People have to tell me about it
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rangerforces83 said:
I love it considering it can do almost anything. Its not really the features its just since I'm a noon I don't know how to experiment on the phone.
I'm not like you who wonders what they do. People have to tell me about it
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read around, maybe something will catch your interest. personally, i dont need the extra features. i look for something lean, and optimized, which usually means fast. the simplicity of android makes me happy, i dont need anything else.

simms22 said:
read around, maybe something will catch your interest. personally, i dont need the extra features. i look for something lean, and optimized, which usually means fast. the simplicity of android makes me happy, i dont need anything else.
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What do you have on yours?
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rangerforces83 said:
What do you have on yours?
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rasbean jelly rom with the trinity kernel. but thats what i enjoy

Its basic human nature that they get bored after using the same thing again & again for many days. After a month of usage, I was bored with my S2, then I started trying out new ROMs, I used to change ROMs once every 2 weeks.
I got my Nexus 4, 3days ago.........
Try out different ROMs, try different software tweaks, or different apps from Play Store atleast. Otherwise just find something/someone other than your Nexus 4/10 to remove your boredom......

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Its basic human nature that they get bored after using the same thing again & again for many days. After a month of usage, I was bored with my S2, then I started trying out new ROMs, I used to change ROMs once every 2 weeks.
I got my Nexus 4, 3days ago.........
Try out different ROMs, try different software tweaks, or different apps from Play Store atleast. Otherwise just find something/someone other than your Nexus 4/10 to remove your boredom......
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What are you running on your ROM
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simms22 said:
rasbean jelly rom with the trinity kernel. but thats what i enjoy
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okay see because I over clocked and rooted my Nexus 4 and 10. Running pa with stock kernel. I literally took of Faux kernel does now because it was overheating my phone. I still have my Nexus 10 overclock and rooted. With same kernel. I just need something else to do with my phone. When I usually go hiking or trailing I do photosphere's and then add it to Google Plus but other than that there's nothing else to do
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rangerforces83 said:
okay see because I over clocked and rooted my Nexus 4 and 10. Running pa with stock kernel. I literally took of Faux kernel does now because it was overheating my phone. I still have my Nexus 10 overclock and rooted. With same kernel. I just need something else to do with my phone. When I usually go hiking or trailing I do photosphere's and then add it to Google Plus but other than that there's nothing else to do
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forget nexus and buy iphone/ samsung
pure android and google support its not for U

rangerforces83 said:
okay see because I over clocked and rooted my Nexus 4 and 10. Running pa with stock kernel. I literally took of Faux kernel does now because it was overheating my phone. I still have my Nexus 10 overclock and rooted. With same kernel. I just need something else to do with my phone. When I usually go hiking or trailing I do photosphere's and then add it to Google Plus but other than that there's nothing else to do
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the most important question, what do you need it to do?

Karo. said:
forget nexus and buy iphone/ samsung
pure android and google support its not for U
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So tell me this genius why am i always attracted to Google device is rather than Samsung or apple or anybody else
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rangerforces83 said:
So tell me this genius why am i always attracted to Google device is rather than Samsung or apple or anybody else
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the pure android experience + fastboot oem unlock :victory:

Get playstation emulator from playstore

rangerforces83 said:
So tell me this genius why am i always attracted to Google device is rather than Samsung or apple or anybody else
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I love my nexus 10. Its just I use my phone more and I need a project for it so I can work on
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I do photosphere's and then add it to Google Plus but other than that there's nothing else to do

What you need is tasker!
That should be a really interesting project for you
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsIm5ldC5kaW5nbGlzY2guYW5kcm9pZC50YXNrZXJtIl0.
You can do anything with this app

What you need is to change the way you interact with your device. Remove the nav bar and use pie (learn to use gestures) , nova launcher (and many roms out there) have the option to remove the notificatiom bar. Use dashclock with the extentions as a homescreen widget. Use halo for notifications. Use icon packs to change the way your UI feels, change the wallpaper more often. If you're on google+ take a look at the communities, people are doing some crazy stuff customizations, try to replicate those themes.
Buying the s4 won't solve your problems.
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rayiskon said:
What you need is to change the way you interact with your device. Remove the nav bar and use pie (learn to use gestures) , nova launcher (and many roms out there) have the option to remove the notificatiom bar. Use dashclock with the extentions as a homescreen widget. Use halo for notifications. Use icon packs to change the way your UI feels, change the wallpaper more often. If you're on google+ take a look at the communities, people are doing some crazy stuff customizations, try to replicate those themes.
Buying the s4 won't solve your problems.
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Yeah the only thing Im not doing from what you said is using halo and pie. I did that with my nexus 10. The reason why I didn't on my nexus 4 is because I put tablet ui and made it transparent and made the app drawer transparent too
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rangerforces83 said:
What are you running on your ROM
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I'm still using stock ROM. Missing many features of my S2, so I'll root it after a week, install a good ROM.......

TRIM on Nexus S, yay or nay?

I suppose everyone heard about fstrim utility from unix OS-es being incorporated in Android 4.3. Appearantly, it optimises how operating system is using flash memory and that reduces lagg that is being accumulated over time of usage.
My question is, has anyone tried LagFix app from Play Store? Does it help for our device?
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/system and /data works, /cache doesn't.
I think it does help performance a bit.

Ted Mosby said:
My question is, has anyone tried LagFix app from Play Store? Does it help for our device?
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Don't expect miracles from it, but it indeed helps a bit.

I'm running the same build of CM-10-20121220 for some time now, trying new ROM's but I always go back to this from recovery after few days. I don't know is it placebo or what but phone indeed seems little snappier than before.
Thanks
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debaj said:
Don't expect miracles from it, but it indeed helps a bit.
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best thing to do is clear all recent apps by pressing home key and clearing each one away to free ram.no apps needed as thay will use ram them selfs.I do this and i dont get lag.
using hellybean 4.2.2 on nexus s.