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Why the RAM on Android is only 400＋M?

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Some of the ram is used by the GPU, some is used to run the OS, and I think the radio takes some too. After the GPU and radio take their share, you end up with like 411 mb.
Then Android itsself needs some to run, and then there's your launcher and any apps you have installed. Basically what you see is what you get.
The good news is, Android manages memory differently than WinMobile. Android apps are kept in RAM to aid in fast loading, resulting in less free RAM, but an overall faster, smoother experience. I say judge not by the amount of unused memory, but by how smooth the experience. I would stay away from task killers, except for System Panel and AutoKiller Memory Optimiser. Just find the level in Autokiller that works best for you, and if you're about to use a memory hungry app, end all apps with System Panel's End All widget.

please use the search, this has been asked and answered many many times

that's because of the radio the rom and the launcher!

Richy99 said:
please use the search, this has been asked and answered many many times
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Troll....this is the Q&A section.
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Troll....this is the Q&A section.
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how am i a troll for saying use the search option?

How much RAM ?!

Hi , how much ram you max get free ?
Say also
* what rom
* tweaks used
* swap or not
* what kernel
For me it's Reavaluton v3 rom and nAa 11 , NO swap... , I get around 105-110 free ram .. And tweaks I use
* Supercharger V8
* X8 Hotfix
* Odexed

I don't have screenshot, but I remember that was around 95Mb
-MiniCM 2.1.8
-nAa kernel v10
-No SWAP
-Autokiller on Strict mode installed.

I have 3gb ram free... added more ram to my x8
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Lloir said:
I have 3gb ram free... added more ram to my x8
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Lol? 3gb ram free? what did you do? use swap? changed its ram?
3gb ram is too much...Seriously...1gb is enough...Or you planning to run win7?

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i think he meant sd card lol

Got max 115mb free on SDE with only 256mb swap.
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I got about 95~100 free ram..
About what rom I've used?
I forget it ..
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How do you guys can get so much free RAM?
I suppose it is possible only with swap? Or with absolutely fresh installation of ROM with almost no applications?
Most of the time I have between 30-45 MB free RAM and I do not use swap and have a lot of applications, few widgets...

tw9 said:
How do you guys can get so much free RAM?
I suppose it is possible only with swap? Or with absolutely fresh installation of ROM with almost no applications?
Most of the time I have between 30-45 MB free RAM and I do not use swap and have a lot of applications, few widgets...
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Did you clean ram ? or its normal use free RAM ? ;D
Btw try Fast Reboot Pro app , its great
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No i really got 3gb inside my X8 only got a 8gb sdcard lol

tw9 said:
How do you guys can get so much free RAM?
I suppose it is possible only with swap? Or with absolutely fresh installation of ROM with almost no applications?
Most of the time I have between 30-45 MB free RAM and I do not use swap and have a lot of applications, few widgets...
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Ram manager pro
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I am using advanced task killer, have a widget on home screen, which kills apps and displays the information about free RAM, and it shows what I mentioned.
I will take a look at the app Fast Reboot, thanks.
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Did you clean ram ? or its normal use free RAM ? ;D
Btw try Fast Reboot Pro app , its great
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Maximum i ever get was 117 on stock 2.1 by killing every single app
I never used swap and never will
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have you all tried app called "Swapper for root"
i tried it,, first it ask how much swap do you want,, its 200MB by defalut, and check "apply on boot"option
after save, this app create one file in your sdcard "swap.swp" its 200MB size
i am feeling a bit different from my x8,, its quite fast..
but i still dont understand how it works

pancon said:
have you all tried app called "Swapper for root"
i tried it,, first it ask how much swap do you want,, its 200MB by defalut, and check "apply on boot"option
after save, this app create one file in your sdcard "swap.swp" its 200MB size
i am feeling a bit different from my x8,, its quite fast..
but i still dont understand how it works
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That 200mb is "virtual ram"...it means your phone uses that allocated 200mb to increase the amount of ram your phone can have...but be warned, increasing the SWAP size will shorten your SD Card's lifespan...200mb should be ok...don't go overboard like I did and put 1000mb(1GB) ....but if you already enabled compache in CyanogemMod Settings/Performance, then using SWAP is pointless

RohinZaraki said:
That 200mb is "virtual ram"...it means your phone uses that allocated 200mb to increase the amount of ram your phone can have...but be warned, increasing the SWAP size will shorten your SD Card's lifespan...200mb should be ok...don't go overboard like I did and put 1000mb(1GB) ....but if you already enabled compache in CyanogemMod Settings/Performance, then using SWAP is pointless
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is it really that pointless??
if that so, i wiil just remove it..,,
how about Ram Manager app?

pancon said:
is it really that pointless??
if that so, i wiil just remove it..,,
how about Ram Manager app?
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Ohhhhh Ram Manager = me gusta ...really recommend it !

Home screen reloading issue?

Hi everyone. Home screen reloads/ restarts are a common issue on the international sgs3. Anyone here experiencing the same problem under heavy usage?

Not a thing after 2 days. Been trying games, apps and the whole nine yards most of the time without any reloads or restarts for almost anything.
Amazing, coming from an Atrix.

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Hi everyone. Home screen reloads/ restarts are a common issue on the international sgs3. Anyone here experiencing the same problem under heavy usage?
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Hey OP this will NOT be an issue. This thing has 2GB of RAM...even with a ton of apps running I always have at least 800-900MB of RAM free at all times. Android will never have to restart the launcher so you'll never get homescreen redraws. The issue you're seeing is because of the less RAM and the TW launcher having to be killed in memory to free up memory and then reloaded.

Diviance said:
Not a thing after 2 days. Been trying games, apps and the whole nine yards most of the time without any reloads or restarts for almost anything.
Amazing, coming from an Atrix.
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Thanks. How about multitasking? If you leave the browser open and go to other apps will it kill off the browser and make you reload the tabs?

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Thanks. How about multitasking? If you leave the browser open and go to other apps will it kill off the browser and make you reload the tabs?
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Nope. Again 2GB of RAM!!!
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mobilehavoc said:
Nope. Again 2GB of RAM!!!
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You do realize this restarting has absolutely nothing to do with available RAM, and everything to do with buggy Samsung coding in TW3, right?
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Nope. Again 2GB of RAM!!!
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Thanks for the info. This is a real problem on the international gs3.

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You do realize this restarting has absolutely nothing to do with available RAM, and everything to do with buggy Samsung coding in TW3, right?
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Not true, the same issue happens on Sense phones like HOX because of available memory. Android will dump TW or Sense from RAM if it runs out of available memory so the app you are currently using can function fine. Then when you finish with that app, the launcher has to be reloaded to memory which is the refreshing you see.
It's a known/documented issue. More RAM solves the problem because the launcher (along with many other apps) remain in memory always since there's plenty of free memory for other apps.
This is triple confirmed from my experience using a Galaxy Nexus, HOX and now a US GS3. Even if I use Nova Launcher on all 3 if I really push them the GN and HOX will refresh Nova once in a while while the GS3 will never do that.
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At a technical level in all computer systems (mobile or desktop, etc.) MORE RAM = LESS PAGING.
Read this -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging

Goronok said:
You do realize this restarting has absolutely nothing to do with available RAM, and everything to do with buggy Samsung coding in TW3, right?
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You are wrong. It has EVERYTHING to do with RAM. Hence the NA versions of this phone will not see the problem.

This is with tons of apps and services running. I've been watching it, it rarely drops lower than 800MB.
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Thanks. How about multitasking? If you leave the browser open and go to other apps will it kill off the browser and make you reload the tabs?
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As of yet, even while running probably 10+ apps at once, I have yet to have had any have to reload anything when coming back to them even after a few hours.
It has to do with RAM and the memkill settings the company used on the device. The OneX has ridiculously aggressive settings, for example.

More ram just masks the real problem, poorly written software. 1gb should be more than enough on phones. If WIN7 can run on 1gb, a phone should have no issues. 2gb is just a marketing tool atm. One X is rarely using over 500mb ram on my device.
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nativestranger said:
Thanks for the info. This is a real problem on the international gs3.
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No its not
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c5satellite2 said:
More ram just masks the real problem, poorly written software. 1gb should be more than enough on phones. If WIN7 can run on 1gb, a phone should have no issues. 2gb is just a marketing tool atm. One X is rarely using over 500mb ram on my device.
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What you say may be true. The problem is definitely due to partly poor memory management by software. For example on my international SGS3 when I have about 150mb left and i open a memory heavy app it chose to kill off my home launcher or my browser (2 frequently accessed apps) instead of a bunch of inactive cached apps. ICS/ Touchwiz seems very agressive in auto caching unwanted apps but very reluctant to free up memory by quiting those cached apps.
Now we don't know if this is Samsungs fault or google ICS fault but several phones on ICS all have this regressed memory management issue from gingerbread. There is not much that can be done to improve the situation. So it looks like a 2GB phone is the best bet at the moment if you want proper multitasking experience on ICS.

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No its not
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Speak for yourself. Several members including me have already encountered home launcher or even music player quiting when using the browser.

Nvm..
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nativestranger said:
Thanks for the info. This is a real problem on the international gs3.
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No its not lol I have both and I'll tell u the us version lags more often but it also can use more apps like I ever use 12 apps at once also its funny cause I think the ram issues are now gone I have no reloads not one even running many apps
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This is definitely an issue on the American version. Every time I hit home the stock launcher reloads. Tmobile s3 btw.

PePPaZ said:
This is definitely an issue on the American version. Every time I hit home the stock launcher reloads. Tmobile s3 btw.
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Something is very wrong with the TMobile version. No such issues on AT&T
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Yea AT&T here, never reloads.
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[Q] S4 RAM Question

Just have a quick question iv'e heard that on the s4 that touchwiz takes up a lot of ram from the 2gb available does that mean if i install another ROM will give me more ram to work with ?

Yes ,but Android is not Windows. Free RAM is wasted RAM. Without touchwiz and the Samsung bloat give you more space on infernal SD. If Android need RAM so the low mem killer kicks in and clean unused apps.
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H0[)iNi said:
Yes ,but Android is not Windows. Free RAM is wasted RAM. Without touchwiz and the Samsung bloat give you more space on infernal SD. If Android need RAM so the low mem killer kicks in and clean unused apps.
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ok thanks for the reply csn you have multiple apps open and still be lag free and smooth?

Youngpuzzlez said:
ok thanks for the reply csn you have multiple apps open and still be lag free and smooth?
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Depends on how many apps are open and what rom because if have a custom boalt free rom you will not have any laggs but if you have a device filled with apps like sammy rom you sometimes might have some laggs
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medoooooo said:
Depends on how many apps are open and what rom because if have a custom boalt free rom you will not have any laggs but if you have a device filled with apps like sammy rom you sometimes might have some laggs
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ok thanks for helping

Galaxy S6 RAM Issues May Be Intentional

While Samsung’s TouchWiz interface has by no means been among the top skins to be implemented by manufacturers, the Korean company has never given up on improving the custom Android interface. Most of the criticism revolves around the effects TouchWiz can have on the fluidity of a device’s interface, as well as the overall appearance the company imposes on their users. With the latest Galaxy S6 smartphones, Samsung has shipped a newer version of the TouchWiz interface, which Samsung claims is both lighter in system resource consumption, as well as a more refined experience.
Read Full Article Here: Samsung Galaxy S6 RAM Issues May Be Intentional
What Do You Think About SAMSUNG?

What's the news here?
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Why cant just devs make custom rom with fixed ram managment?

This kind of stuff is rubbish:
...the overall appearance the company imposes on their users.
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TouchWiz is themeable, and if you still aren't happy, you can buy something else--Samsung isn't holding a gun to your head. Besides, it's irrelevant to the supposed topic of the article and only serves to set a negative tone. This is little more than a biased and poorly executed opinion piece.

[QUOTE=Isus they do
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I havent seen any ROM with fixed ram managment.

[QUOTE=Isus ive seen many with mem leak fixes
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elliwigy said:
Isus said:
ive seen many with mem leak fixes
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I dont care about memory leak, i just want rom which can handle over 20 apps in multitasking screen which wont reload in couple of secs.

[QUOTE=Isus memory IS RAM lmao.. thats precisely what the mem leak fix is.. it fixes the multitasking and allows it to stay in the background longer than stock which kills it very aggressively out of the box..
you should read up on it because you clearly dont know what your talking about.
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elliwigy said:
Isus said:
memory IS RAM lmao.. thats precisely what the mem leak fix is.. it fixes the multitasking and allows it to stay in the background longer than stock which kills it very aggressively out of the box..
you should read up on it because you clearly dont know what your talking about.
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You clearly dont know what you're talking about, I had memory leak issues on Nexus 5 but I still could have over 15 apps in recent tabs without reloading unless ram usage is over 95%... On S6 even after restart, when ram usage is 60% I cannot have more than 3 apps in recent tabs.. Explain me now, how can memory managment and memory leak be the same? smartass ..
P.S (memory IS RAM lmao) memory doesnt clearly mean RAM, there is memory in GPU, drives, sd cards, etc.

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the mods used for memory leak is specifically in regards to ram management which you modify the android system to run more apps in memory at a time without the system forcing them to restart.. this is available as well as included in many roms already..
RAM = Random Access Memory which is obviously the memory i was referring to.. if i was referring to any other memory i would have indicated so but assumed it was safe to simply say "memory" and you would know what memory i was talking about since the main topic is RAM memory.
Im not trying to argue, you made a post i said there is a fix for it already because there is. You can not believe me all you want, i could care less lol.
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Isus <3 said:
I havent seen any ROM with fixed ram managment.
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because ROM does not control memory management its more like Kernel related stuff

elliwigy said:
Isus said:
the mods used for memory leak is specifically in regards to ram management which you modify the android system to run more apps in memory at a time without the system forcing them to restart.. this is available as well as included in many roms already..
RAM = Random Access Memory which is obviously the memory i was referring to.. if i was referring to any other memory i would have indicated so but assumed it was safe to simply say "memory" and you would know what memory i was talking about since the main topic is RAM memory.
Im not trying to argue, you made a post i said there is a fix for it already because there is. You can not believe me all you want, i could care less lol.
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Yeah sorry I lost my temper. I didnt want to rage here lol. Sorry again
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because ROM does not control memory management its more like Kernel related stuff
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Why not custom kernel then? XD

elliwigy said:
Isus
the mods used for memory leak is specifically in regards to ram management which you modify the android system to run more apps in memory at a time without the system forcing them to restart.. this is available as well as included in many roms already..
RAM = Random Access Memory which is obviously the memory i was referring to.. if i was referring to any other memory i would have indicated so but assumed it was safe to simply say "memory" and you would know what memory i was talking about since the main topic is RAM memory.
Im not trying to argue said:
Memory leak is different than ram management.
Memory leak is pre-5.1.1 where the phone gets slow over a longer period of time but a reboot fixes it. The colour fade fix is one of the memory leak fixes.
Memory management is the multitasking issue we are having where apps don't stay alive while multitasking!
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Elisha said:
elliwigy said:
Memory leak is different than ram management.
Memory leak is pre-5.1.1 where the phone gets slow over a longer period of time but a reboot fixes it. The colour fade fix is one of the memory leak fixes.
Memory management is the multitasking issue we are having where apps don't stay alive while multitasking!
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im talking about multitasking/ram management:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61185040
i was never talking about the memory leak or the color fade fixes...
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Elisha said:
elliwigy said:
Memory leak is different than ram management.
Memory leak is pre-5.1.1 where the phone gets slow over a longer period of time but a reboot fixes it. The colour fade fix is one of the memory leak fixes.
Memory management is the multitasking issue we are having where apps don't stay alive while multitasking!
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Does 5.1.1. fix the colourfade?
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Anyone need popcorn? I'm selling it
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Anyone need popcorn? I'm selling it
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How much for one big?
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Anyone need popcorn? I'm selling it
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does the popcorn trip knox?
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does the popcorn trip knox?
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Trip your stomach [emoji4]
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