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I really wonder why there is none of such thread here!
Gingerbread unfortunately brought only bad things to my Nexus. I already forgot why I was so crazy about installing it.
What feature did it introduce again?
Okay the response is much better and everything seems faster...but with lots of bugs?
That screen off animation? Seriously?
Things that I hate now:
- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day with lot of usage, b
efore I could listen to mp3's one day, ie. more than 4 hours without any problems...now
- Camera: either Cam or Video, the application crashes after I take a photo or video and then I can not connect to it anymore
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- unlock screen: I use a pattern, often there is no overlay of what pattern I drag, still the screen can be unlocked
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- 3G and Wifi: if you are connected to wifi more than 15 minutes and then disconnect from it you do not get any 3G, you have to go to airplane mode and back, this bug appeared ages ago and was fixed, now back again...tells you a lot about their merging control, ie. sucks
- notification led: you know...
- apps: there are a lot of apps running even though I never used them since restart (see it in a task killer app)
- gps: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- phone reboot: it even rebooted without any notice two times since I installed it
(- Contacts: I still can't enter a simple thing like a birthday on an expensive phone like this)
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1. Battery Time
2. Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
3. notification led: you know...
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4. Blank keyboard- fixed by switching to another keyboard and back again, or a reset
5. Blank Launcher- fixed with reset
6. In the stock SMS app a long press>delete conversation doesn't always delete the selected conversation; sometimes you have to do it twice.
As far as battery goes, my display is still the thing that takes up the most battery (which is normal) but I had been experiencing severe declines in battery life. Does the switch to 32-bit color require more processing power and therefore battery?
I *#*#4636#*#*>phone information and saw it was set to WCDMA preferred. I remember playing with the option when froyo came out but didn't remember what it was set to (Maybe Gingerbread reset the option...?). I changed it to GSM PRL (Auto), and have experienced increases in battery life, as my phone isn't hunting for 3G all the time- it uses a service provided list of tower locations.
The LED REALLY bugs me.
Hate about Gingerbread
No trackball wake
Juice Defender Doesn't work (but Green Power does - works well but with less flexibility than JD)
Short battery life
Useless keyboard selection gimmicks
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
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Well, glad to know mine isn't the only one that does this!!
On Froyo I would wake up in the morning to freshly updated apps that had updated automatically over night.
I have not had this happen a single time on Gingerbread, and nearly every time I go in to the market there are updates waiting.
What is the point of the automatic update feature when it doesn't work???
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To be fair, the OP did mention about switching to Apple.
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GldRush98 said:
Well, glad to know mine isn't the only one that does this!!
On Froyo I would wake up in the morning to freshly updated apps that had updated automatically over night.
I have not had this happen a single time on Gingerbread, and nearly every time I go in to the market there are updates waiting.
What is the point of the automatic update feature when it doesn't work???
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auto update never worked for me, even in froyo.
-Battery with CM7 roms
-Trackball wake blocked in non-CM7 roms
-More difficult to mod themes like statusbar (before we just had to change a png and now we have to edit a bunch of files)
So in summary GB roms are still not stable and complete, they have either TB wake missing or poor battery life too
My annoying issues?
- 2 second mic mute after I answer a call
- stock launcher choking after a while
Less annoying ones:
- Market does not automatically update apps
- gps activations without an apparent reason
My annoyances
In no particular order:
The cursor select triangle not lining up with the cursor
Launcher unresponsive/vanishing
Lockscreen pattern not showing (as in the OP)
Phone randomly stays awake at night
GPS turns itself off
Not able to view an apps wakelock any more
USB mount screen shows 'turn off' even when it isn't mounted (UK issue)
USB debugging icon doesn't appear, or doesn't turn off depending on how you enabled it
Exchange push is just crap now, I swear it's getting worse by the day
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- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day with lot of usage, b
efore I could listen to mp3's one day, ie. more than 4 hours without any problems...now
- Camera: either Cam or Video, the application crashes after I take a photo or video and then I can not connect to it anymore
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- unlock screen: I use a pattern, often there is no overlay of what pattern I drag, still the screen can be unlocked
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- 3G and Wifi: if you are connected to wifi more than 15 minutes and then disconnect from it you do not get any 3G, you have to go to airplane mode and back, this bug appeared ages ago and was fixed, now back again...tells you a lot about their merging control, ie. sucks
- notification led: you know...
- apps: there are a lot of apps running even though I never used them since restart (see it in a task killer app)
- gps: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- phone reboot: it even rebooted without any notice two times since I installed it
(- Contacts: I still can't enter a simple thing like a birthday on an expensive phone like this)
I think there is more if I think about it.
Seriously thinking about switching back.
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While I'm not a big Gingerbread lover at all, here are answers to some of the points:
Battery time is fine, at least in freshly installed ROMs it far exceeds what Froyo mastered.
Camera is your own problem - you didn't update radio, or your update went bad.
Gallery never crashed - again, your own problem (you get the feeling now, right?).
3G and WiFi - again, your own problem. No bug.
Apps - and why do you care? Isn't the "DO NOT USE TASK KILLER" thread clear enough? 150-200MB free RAM aren't self-explanatory?
Due to your comments, you might really consider switching to Apple. It would be beneficial both for you and for this forum.
Or you could back up user data, wipe, install new radio and bootloader, load fresh Gingerbread ROM (NOT CM7 or CM7-based), and have most of your points addressed.
Now, having said that, if you want a much better overall feel - install Froyo-based Desire port, or if you don't have any use for Hotspot - DesireHD port. I hate using barebone Android after some experience with it.
have you guys heard about Cyanogenmod ROM? I am using CM7 RC4 and I have no problems that anyone mentioned in this thread....
Maybe you haven't heard that your experience not necessarily represents anything.
For me (and another 2 guys that asked me to reinstall other ROM on their Nexus Ones), CM7 was a huge, awful pile of bugs. Starting with the ill-famous "wonk".
Plus, again, after having some SenseUI I don't really want to go back to plain Android, and wouldn't suggest it to anyone looking for a good overall experience.
I have an occasional problem with the application tray where it stutters, flashes and doesn't scroll properly. It seems to happen only after exiting certain apps, and needs the launcher to be force closed to fix.
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have you guys heard about Cyanogenmod ROM? I am using CM7 RC4 and I have no problems that anyone mentioned in this thread....
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Exactly my experience too. Absolutely brilliant ROM.
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..after having some SenseUI I don't really want to go back to plain Android, and wouldn't suggest it to anyone looking for a good overall experience.
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Just lost all credibility in my book...
I would suggest the OP decides what features he/she wants in a ROM and then try a few different ones out. There are plenty to cater to all tastes and i'm sure they'll be able to find one that works well for them.
1. exchange sync stops syncing without any reason. can't start a manual sync. only reboot of the phone helps for a short period of time. needs a fix very urgently.
2. TINY TINY notification icons...the worst idea google had for the GB update. i cannot see the difference between the gmail and exchange mail icon on normal usage in example.
There are some more points which i also mentioned in my blog about gingerbread for nexus one:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2011/03/review-android-2-3-3-gingerbread-for-nexus-one/
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Let's play nicely in here and keep this on-topic. This is not the place to discuss other operating systems. This is about issues pertaining to the OTA Gingerbread updates.
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One bug and one annoying change:
- The instability of the launchers. I hope they address this.
- The inaccessible GPS toggle. Tasker can't access it and neither can the toggle widgets. Why did they change this?
my mms sometimes does not send if i configure 2 APNs (one for mobile data and one for mms), while i disable the one for mobile data...
it's working fine on Froyo and CM6 before
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- The inaccessible GPS toggle. Tasker can't access it and neither can the toggle widgets. Why did they change this?
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QFT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Auto brightness adjustment no longer fades, now it just jump straight to the target brightness which is quite abrupt visually.
And of course... trackball wake is gone.
I concur with these points:
- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- GPS: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- Creating shortcuts on desktop: sometimes you can't drag/drop icons to the desktop or to a different spot on the desktop.
- The cursor select triangle not lining up with the cursor
- Auto brightness adjustment no longer fades, now it just jump straight to full bright or full dim.
As for the people suggesting we update the radio and try different roms, while that is primarily what this board is about, it doesn't "solve" anything. This is a stock Nexus One with official everything. If it doesn't work then it doesn't work.
I found a program called Nobars in the market. What it does is monitor cell reception and turn the radio off when you have no signal. There is an option to keep WiFi active when it puts it into airplane mode.
I have confirmed that it works as it should by taking it out of airplane mode several times. Since installing it cell usage of the battery has not budged.
I know this can be done manually but this is an automatic option that constantly monitors.
Nice find
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Does this need root?
Cause it doesnt seem to work on mine (note rooted yet)
I dont see any notification as the settings suggest..
Its not working for me neither.
Mine is unrooted too.
Do we need root?
mine is rooted and it doesnt work : still have the "veille gsm" process sucking battery (A500 french)
I am rooted, it doesn't work for me either.
Does Airplane Mode Work?
Has anyone seen any positive effect of keeping the tablet in airplane mode and just turning WiFi on/off as you need it?
This app does not need root. While it was working great for me initially it now seems to have stopped working. I am going to play with it a little today.
And I definitely see a difference running in airplane mode.
There is another app I run on my droid x that shuts down everything at night. Going to see if that works on Honeycomb.
for anyone that it is not working for, you can turn on airplane mode manually and then re-enable wifi
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for anyone that it is not working for, you can turn on airplane mode manually and then re-enable wifi
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You can do this, but have not seen any adjustments to the battery use at all. It still keeps draining for the cell standby.
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Airplane mode does not fix the Cell Standby drain.
I have seen this topic discussed in the Androidtablets forum under the Acer specific thread. (I still can't post links but it's exhaustively been discussed in that thread).
Unfortunately, the a500 was designed exactly the same as the a501 (which will be the 3G enabled Acer tablet eventually).
The bottom line is, this probably won't ever be fixed. Renaming phone.apk and telephonyProvider.apk does fix the issue - but it also bricks your tablet.
For my Droid X, I use a widget called "Dazzle!" which gives me control over the Cell Radio - even on my Droid, I can disable Cell and not have a Cell Standby drain. Unfortunately, this widget does not appear in the market for the Acer...
I think we've gotta wait for a crafty developer for a workaround, or wait for some custom ROM's... Acer doesn't seem to have any plans for a software update for this.
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Airplane mode does not fix the Cell Standby drain.
I have seen this topic discussed in the Androidtablets forum under the Acer specific thread. (I still can't post links but it's exhaustively been discussed in that thread).
Unfortunately, the a500 was designed exactly the same as the a501 (which will be the 3G enabled Acer tablet eventually).
The bottom line is, this probably won't ever be fixed. Renaming phone.apk and telephonyProvider.apk does fix the issue - but it also bricks your tablet.
For my Droid X, I use a widget called "Dazzle!" which gives me control over the Cell Radio - even on my Droid, I can disable Cell and not have a Cell Standby drain. Unfortunately, this widget does not appear in the market for the Acer...
I think we've gotta wait for a crafty developer for a workaround, or wait for some custom ROM's... Acer doesn't seem to have any plans for a software update for this.
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All we need is a kernel that disables the ril. DJ_Steve did it for the Streak 7.
I have a help-ticket out at Acer about this issues, which has already surpassed Level 2 Tech support. It's been a while since my last response (which told me to send the unit in for faulty parts, haha). We'll see what Level 3 has to say. So far they've only sent form-letters back.
I have a feeling our developer community will have this issue solved well before acer even acknowledges it.
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I have a help-ticket out at Acer about this issues, which has already surpassed Level 2 Tech support. It's been a while since my last response (which told me to send the unit in for faulty parts, haha). We'll see what Level 3 has to say. So far they've only sent form-letters back.
I have a feeling our developer community will have this issue solved well before acer even acknowledges it.
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Which leaves us users who don't want to go the mod/root route in deep doo doo.
I completely agree.
I finally decided not to root my Droid X for the gingerbread update. But the tablet, I have to admit, I might have to actually Root to fix the issues.
I hope Acer creates a situation where Rooting isn't necessary. But, it looks doubtful. I'd rather root and gain 4+ hours of battery, than not root and gain nothing.
Hw does disabling telephony and phone apks brick a device? So far mine seems fine with them disabled.....?
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Hw does disabling telephony and phone apks brick a device? So far mine seems fine with them disabled.....?
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How is your battery life before and after? And, renaming them does nothing unless you reset the Iconia.
What I don't understand is just what kind of reset does this. There's a lot of chatter here but to me a hard reset always meant a complete wipe of the device back to factory default state. Apparently even a "soft reset", i.e., just rebooting will also bork the Iconia so just be careful.
Am I on to something here?
Hi guys, I am a noob here so please dun flame me
I actually installed minimalist text onto my A500. I tried to customize my widget,
and when I went into the part where I can customize the activity of clicking my widget, I discovered that the list consist of mobile network settings (It actually consist of the full list of mobile networking settings)
Out of curiosity, I selected the mobile data network setting as my widgets default action. When I went into the setting, the "Data Enabled: Enable data access over Mobile Network" is actually being checked. I had unchecked it, and now my "cell standby" in my battery use has stopped.
Maybe I got it wrong or its just coincidence, but I thought maybe someone else can try it and see whether is it really workable?
I am keeping a look out on the battery statistics; hopefully it really works.
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Hi guys, I am a noob here so please dun flame me
I actually installed minimalist text onto my A500. I tried to customize my widget,
and when I went into the part where I can customize the activity of clicking my widget, I discovered that the list consist of mobile network settings (It actually consist of the full list of mobile networking settings)
Out of curiosity, I selected the mobile data network setting as my widgets default action. When I went into the setting, the "Data Enabled: Enable data access over Mobile Network" is actually being checked. I had unchecked it, and now my "cell standby" in my battery use has stopped.
Maybe I got it wrong or its just coincidence, but I thought maybe someone else can try it and see whether is it really workable?
I am keeping a look out on the battery statistics; hopefully it really works.
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Wow! I just went into my Beautiful Weather settings and under the "Advanced Panel" you can specify an action for clicking on the time (or weather). When this is done, it provides a large list of action - this list, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't show up anywhere.
Anyway, Mobile Data was checked (yes or on) so I cleared the list (resulting in mobile data being UNCHECKED) and rebooted. Mobile data remained unchecked so I'll watch for a while and report results later.
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Wow! I just went into my Beautiful Weather settings and under the "Advanced Panel" you can specify an action for clicking on the time (or weather). When this is done, it provides a large list of action - this list, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't show up anywhere.
Anyway, Mobile Data was checked (yes or on) so I cleared the list (resulting in mobile data being UNCHECKED) and rebooted. Mobile data remained unchecked so I'll watch for a while and report results later.
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Yeah the list didnt show up anywhere unless we went to customise widget setups like what we did. Lets see how things goes!
And it seems as though the mobile network settings etc is hidden due to the fact that our A500 is wifi only?
It's been very bothersome. I did look on the web and found this thread about it, but there hasn't been an all-encompassing answer yet.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...lay-music-stopping-when-screen-turns-off.html
I don't appear to be running into this issue. Used Note 3 to start a freebie song on Google Music to play on Chromecast and it continues to play when Note 3 screen times out or when I hit the power button manually. If you've rooted/modified your Note 3 then you probably want to reflash back to stock to rule out any issues that were introduced.
This might be a really pointless suggestion, but as I don't use any of those I'll take a shot in the dark:
Does this setup use WiFi? If so, is WiFi set to disable during sleep?
Bump bump
Anyone a clue? (Evident causes are already ruled out). Regpon wifi KeepAlive app is a solution but it pretty much drains the battery.
Ha!! Just installed a new MK2 firmware ROM (Polish). Runs like a charm now. No issues.
EDIT: forget it. Worked the first time . A bit later .... crap, crap, crap....
With the faulty bluetooth connection with my carkit this is the worst device I've ever had... Next big thing turns out to be the next crappy thing for me...
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Ha!! Just installed a new MK2 firmware ROM (Polish). Runs like a charm now. No issues.
EDIT: forget it. Worked the first time . A bit later .... crap, crap, crap....
With the faulty bluetooth connection with my carkit this is the worst device I've ever had... Next big thing turns out to be the next crappy thing for me...
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Check under Wi-Fi -> Menu -> Advanced if you have "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" set to Always. That (and the resulting Note 3 behavior and power consumption) might also be heavily influence by some of the power-saving / special broadcasting done in your WiFi router/AP.
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Check under Wi-Fi -> Menu -> Advanced if you have "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" set to Always. That (and the resulting Note 3 behavior and power consumption) might also be heavily influence by some of the power-saving / special broadcasting done in your WiFi router/AP.
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Interesting, power-saving option in my router. What kind of parameters are you thinking about.
But do you have it working? Take a look at this forum thread http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...0-google-chromecast-note-3-disconnecting.html . This is a pain in the ass for a lot of users.
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Interesting, power-saving option in my router. What kind of parameters are you thinking about.
But do you have it working? Take a look at this forum thread http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...0-google-chromecast-note-3-disconnecting.html . This is a pain in the ass for a lot of users.
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I have no Chromecast yet, so I can not test that, but when those WiFi settings are set badly you either don't go to full sleep with the phone (and power consumption is large) or you go without the correct wake-up wifi stuff and then you miss radio packets.
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I have no Chromecast yet, so I can not test that, but when those WiFi settings are set badly you either don't go to full sleep with the phone (and power consumption is large) or you go without the correct wake-up wifi stuff and then you miss radio packets.
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Let's assume for simplicity that I literally tried everything on the Note when it comes to tweaking the WiFi setting (there's even a hidden settings menu, accessible by dialing *#0011#, in which you can set the WiFi Power saving off. That didn't work either).
So I know, theoretically you can speculate a lot but it won't help. There's something wrong with the Note or the play music app.
Sometimes the Play Music app force closes with a IllegalArgumentException, saying that a messagestream with namespace Ramp is already registered (that is definitely related to the chromecast API) . It happened a few times (very rarely though) when waking the device up when casting music via Chromecast.
But what was that about the Wifi router? What kind of parameters did you have in mind?
Same issue. All the settings on my phone are fine. Any other Chromecast supported app works regardless of my screen being on or off. WiFi on during sleep. Router configured properly... If I run Google Play Music from my desktop, and stream to my Chromecast I can play entire albums without a problem. On the phone, I can not. This is definitely a Note 3 problem.
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My apologies if this is a repeat post.
It has been mentioned before that the double-tap-to-wake does not working with anything but the stock launcher. Actually technically the *wake* should work with any launcher. I just installed Apex (my regular launcher), and it is still working just fine. What does not work is the *lock*. Apex has its own double-tap gesture definition, and lock isn't one of the options. So to get around that, you can go to the Play Store and download, install and activate "Screen Off and Lock" . One option on the Apex double-tap setting is to launch any other app. You can now configure it to launch this app. Once you do that, when you double tap while in Apex, it will lock the screen. When you double tap again, it will unlock ( I do not think that has anything to do with Apex anyway ) .
Apex is my favorite launcher and I have been looking for a way to get back to it without losing the double tap. Now I can change themes, make my drawer look better and set up many other gestures. Hopefully this trick can work in any other launcher you want to use. And at the minimum , the double tap to wake should work regardless.
Double tap to wake works for me with Google Now launcher and Nova (free version). Double tap to sleep (lock) doesn't work with either. Works fine both ways with the stock Idol launcher. Looks like you may have discovered a work around.
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My apologies if this is a repeat post.
It has been mentioned before that the double-tap-to-wake does not working with anything but the stock launcher. Actually technically the *wake* should work with any launcher. I just installed Apex (my regular launcher), and it is still working just fine. What does not work is the *lock*. Apex has its own double-tap gesture definition, and lock isn't one of the options. So to get around that, you can go to the Play Store and download, install and activate "Screen Off and Lock" . One option on the Apex double-tap setting is to launch any other app. You can now configure it to launch this app. Once you do that, when you double tap while in Apex, it will lock the screen. When you double tap again, it will unlock ( I do not think that has anything to do with Apex anyway ) .
Apex is my favorite launcher and I have been looking for a way to get back to it without losing the double tap. Now I can change themes, make my drawer look better and set up many other gestures. Hopefully this trick can work in any other launcher you want to use. And at the minimum , the double tap to wake should work regardless.
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Nova Launcher has an identical gesture/setup. [ which I'm using in same way with the "Screen Off" app since the phone auto locks when the screen goes blank. ]
I have experienced the inconsistency with dt2w. I kept deactivating/activating it and it's been working adequately (~60% of the time, still sucky but much better than before). Like others have said, it works much better if the phone is sitting on a desk as opposed to attempting it while in your hand. I really hope the reliability of dt2w gets improved in the next OTA update.
Using Nova and a double tap gesture that activates a screen lock app works perfectly for me.
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I have experienced the inconsistency with dt2w. I kept deactivating/activating it and it's been working adequately (~60% of the time, still sucky but much better than before). Like others have said, it works much better if the phone is sitting on a desk as opposed to attempting it while in your hand. I really hope the reliability of dt2w gets improved in the next OTA update.
Using Nova and a double tap gesture that activates a screen lock app works perfectly for me.
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Same here, NOVA launcher premium
My dt2w works flawlessly to turn screen off. It only works 50% of the time to get it on.
maddog497 said:
My dt2w works flawlessly to turn screen off. It only works 50% of the time to get it on.
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Exactly the same situation here.
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Exactly the same situation here.
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I'm spoiled with the G3 and the Zenfone 2. They both work flawlessly.
Hopefully this gets fixed in an update.
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Thank you very much dude, I'm hoping to root ASAP still haven't found a reliable way to. I wish this device had a bit more ram but pretty good so far. I hate not being rooted just because I can erase anything on the external SD and hopefully with a custom Tom the screen Issues with the phone not waking gets fixed
You don't have to be rooted to delete files on the external drive. There's a thread here that covers that. I'll post the link when I'm on the PC.
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You don't have to be rooted to delete files on the external drive. There's a thread here that covers that. I'll post the link when I'm on the PC.
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Sorry it took so long fopr me to get back here to post the link. I had PC issues and had to install Windows and then the hardware drivers for the AMD card gave me a fight. But you prolly already found the thread but the thread is below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/help/install-to-sd-card-root-access-t3119374
New discovery
Some of you may have already discovered this - but this is certainly new for me. What I am noticing about the double-tap-to-wake - is that it always works - BUT - what is happening is that often it is slow - and I mean really really slow sometimes. Most of us would perceive that as not working - and try it again. And double-tap, on top of double-tap just makes matters worse. What I did was - tried double-tapping once - and when the screen did not come back on, just let it be for about 10+ ( probably more than that at times ) seconds - and it eventually came back on. Even under normal circumstances, the screen wakeup is slow . It looks like sometimes it just takes forever, creating the impression that it is not working. I am not trying to suggest that we can say that this behavior qualifies as 'working' - but at least we know what exactly the problem is.
I hope Alcatel pushes a fix for this. Till that time - I will have to continue to rely on single-tap to wake ( aka the power button ) if double tap to wake does not work.
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Some of you may have already discovered this - but this is certainly new for me. What I am noticing about the double-tap-to-wake - is that it always works - BUT - what is happening is that often it is slow - and I mean really really slow sometimes. Most of us would perceive that as not working - and try it again. And double-tap, on top of double-tap just makes matters worse. What I did was - tried double-tapping once - and when the screen did not come back on, just let it be for about 10+ ( probably more than that at times ) seconds - and it eventually came back on. Even under normal circumstances, the screen wakeup is slow . It looks like sometimes it just takes forever, creating the impression that it is not working. I am not trying to suggest that we can say that this behavior qualifies as 'working' - but at least we know what exactly the problem is.
I hope Alcatel pushes a fix for this. Till that time - I will have to continue to rely on single-tap to wake ( aka the power button ) if double tap to wake does not work.
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I have tried waiting for the screen without it coming on. Putting it on the desk and trying it and leaving it there, with no response. After a reset or disabling then enabling the function would work for a brief while. After that nothing seemed to help. If I used the power button to activate the screen and then try the DTTW, it would work but as soon as the phone went idol, so did the DTTW. As much as I liked the phone for the most part, I was not prepared to go past my return date without even one update coming from Alcatel.
maddog497 said:
I have tried waiting for the screen without it coming on. Putting it on the desk and trying it and leaving it there, with no response. After a reset or disabling then enabling the function would work for a brief while. After that nothing seemed to help. If I used the power button to activate the screen and then try the DTTW, it would work but as soon as the phone went idol, so did the DTTW. As much as I liked the phone for the most part, I was not prepared to go past my return date without even one update coming from Alcatel.
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Since the time I arrived at this theory, I have tested it again and again - and I can confirm that it is always doing it. You just have to be really really patient to see this in action. Forget what I said about 10 seconds ; sometimes you have to wait for more than a minute. It is weird - you double tap - then just stare at the phone for ages and suddenly out of nowhere the screen lights up.
If D2W is important for you , then my discovery does nothing for you - It is still broken. So you did the right thing in returning it. As far as updates go, again if that is important for you, then you did the right thing. Honestly I do not expect many ( if at all ) updates from TCL. From what I understand, they do not have the kind of software development infrastructure that Asus does . And that is evident from the extent of skinning that Asus did on top of Lollipop whereas the Idol3 was mostly a stock experience. IMHO - right now - more than updates from TCL, we need root , so that developers can do their own thing with the phone.
I have since installed a proximity sensor based wave-to-unlock app. Not only does it work very well, it also allows me to lock the screen back, from the lock-screen itself, something that is missing in the default D2W setup. The only downside is the additional power consumption by the proximity sensor. Since it is supposed to use only 3 mA , I am hoping it is not going to be too bad, but I will watch out for it. If the battery performance does not degrade too much, then I think I can kiss D2W goodbye.
I sent an email to Altatel Tech Support about a week ago and asked them if they are aware of the DTTW issues and working on a fix. I received a reply stating that they are aware and are working on an update. My guess is that they will try to combine multiple fixes into a single update. It may take a little longer and it is too bad that Alcatel is not better at communicating with its customers. It would make no sense for Alcatel to ignore all of the customer complaints here, on Amazon, and in various reviews and do nothing. They are spending cash marketing this phone and they must be smart enough to know that their sales will tank if they ignore the issues.
Hey guys, just thought I'd let you know of a solution that appears to fix the double tap to wake issue everyone is having. Like most of you, I've been annoyed that this only works like 50% of the time. I've noticed in the G4 forums of people having issues with their double tap to wake not working as well also (only 80% of the time, still much better than idol 3). One of their fixes is to download SGS Screen Booster from the Play Store. Using the Super Optimized preset, I can say that double tap to wake works 10 out of 10 times in my testing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.shop4apps.touchscreenbooster.com&hl=en
japhule said:
Hey guys, just thought I'd let you know of a solution that appears to fix the double tap to wake issue everyone is having. Like most of you, I've been annoyed that this only works like 50% of the time. I've noticed in the G4 forums of people having issues with their double tap to wake not working as well also (only 80% of the time, still much better than idol 3). One of their fixes is to download SGS Screen Booster from the Play Store. Using the Super Optimized preset, I can say that double tap to wake works 10 out of 10 times in my testing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.shop4apps.touchscreenbooster.com&hl=en
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I tried this app and it seems to improve lag time when you open an app too! Great find!
OTA
An official OTA update has just been announced to fix the DTTW
Borghi said:
I tried this app and it seems to improve lag time when you open an app too! Great find!
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Hi,
After Oreo update, I noticed the following in the quick settings: before the update when clicking once for example on the WiFi toggle, it opened a secondary panel always inside the same place; now it just turns off/on the WiFi. This issue is not related to Android Oreo itself because Google Pixel phones work well. It's OxygenOS-related.
It seems we are loosing functionalities now...
sergio_sant said:
Hi,
After Oreo update, I noticed the following in the quick settings: before the update when clicking once for example on the WiFi toggle, it opened a secondary panel always inside the same place; now it just turns off/on the WiFi. This issue is not related to Android Oreo itself because Google Pixel phones work well. It's OxygenOS-related.
It seems we are loosing functionalities now...
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You mean instead of showing you available networks now it switches the WiFi on/off?
Gaurav.Stallion said:
You mean instead of showing you available networks now it switches the WiFi on/off?
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I think this is what he meant because I have this behavior too. It's switching features on or off instead of showing additional options as it was on Nougat. I don't know if this is OOS "feature" or not.
lukjok said:
I think this is what he meant because I have this behavior too. It's switching features on or off instead of showing additional options as it was on Nougat. I don't know if this is OOS "feature" or not.
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It's there in most custom ROMs, most likely a feature. I've been waiting for it in an OOTB ROM.
I must say, I do definitely miss this. I have a wifi repeater in my house and have to often quickly change the wifi network. Sure, it adds a couple of extra seconds - not the end of the world. But, it's the same for WIFI and Bluetooth ( I use lots of Bluetooth devices too). I hope this gets added back in a future update.
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I must say, I do definitely miss this. I have a wifi repeater in my house and have to often quickly change the wifi network. Sure, it adds a couple of extra seconds - not the end of the world. But, it's the same for WIFI and Bluetooth ( I use lots of Bluetooth devices too). I hope this gets added back in a future update.
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Doesn't this what you want happen when you hold an icon?
Pshemo__ said:
Doesn't this what you want happen when you hold an icon?
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Before it was single press in the fully open quick settings to change your wifi network without launching into the Settings UI. Now, it toggles if you press with it semi-open and fully open, and long-press opens the UI. Personally, I preferred it the way before, but I'm sure this is entirely subjective.
That's not the most annoying thing anyway, the folder layout on the stock launcher I just can't get used to. (I know that's been present for a while now, but I refrained from updating the launcher until this update forced it)