To those of us who like to store hundreds and hundreds of full album MP3's encoded at FLAC would love to have more phone storage.
With the NOTE being such a large phone, I sure hope Samsung designs the NOTE III or IV to have "normal" SD Card capability. Not Micro. Since the normal (or next size up) cards have twice the storage capacity.
Whacha think?
Don't bother responding unless you're one of the folks who are NOT into using the Cloud and NEED massive storage space. :good:
CZ Eddie said:
To those of us who like to store hundreds and hundreds of full album MP3's encoded at FLAC would love to have more phone storage.
With the NOTE being such a large phone, I sure hope Samsung designs the NOTE III or IV to have "normal" SD Card capability. Not Micro. Since the normal (or next size up) cards have twice the storage capacity.
Whacha think?
Don't bother responding unless you're one of the folks who are NOT into using the Cloud and NEED massive storage space. :good:
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While it would be nice to have more internal memory, you can put in a 64 GB microSD and it will likely be read (the Note 2 can already read them). MP3's don't necessarily have to reside in internal memory, so why not just use a 64GB micro-SD instead? ;The price is down to under $50 if you shop around.
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CZ Eddie said:
To those of us who like to store hundreds and hundreds of full album MP3's encoded at FLAC would love to have more phone storage.
With the NOTE being such a large phone, I sure hope Samsung designs the NOTE III or IV to have "normal" SD Card capability. Not Micro. Since the normal (or next size up) cards have twice the storage capacity.
Whacha think?
Don't bother responding unless you're one of the folks who are NOT into using the Cloud and NEED massive storage space. :good:
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won't happen !!! by the way Samsung has invented a technique which will allow sdcard to be as large as 128GB or more...and faster than current technologies..maybe wait for Samsung S 5 and Note IV maybe..I doubt if note 3 would come with it
http://bgr.com/2013/08/06/samsung-3d-vertical-nan-flash/
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CZ Eddie said:
With the NOTE being such a large phone...
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...that shares many components and design concepts with other Samsung phones.
Why would a bigger SD card physically have any impact on what can be read by the phone? Samsung's devices support exFAT and a 64GB max SD card. It's not the micro (vs. standard) SD card that's imposing that limitation. Some other manufacturer's devices don't support exFAT at all and can only handle a max 32GB micro SD card.
Okay, if you don't UNDERSTAND the reason behind my thread, then don't come in here and waste time. Thanks.
iCurmudgeon said:
why not just use a 64GB micro-SD instead? ;The price is down to under $50 if you shop around.
mudge
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I make a post about wanting more storage and you suggest a 64GB card? lol
I already have one. But I can't fit my whole music collection on it. Even at 240kbps VBR.
I would ideally like to have about 500GB so I can carry ALL of my favorite music.
dead soul said:
won't happen !!! by the way Samsung has invented a technique which will allow sdcard to be as large as 128GB or more...and faster than current technologies..maybe wait for Samsung S 5 and Note IV maybe..I doubt if note 3 would come with it
http://bgr.com/2013/08/06/samsung-3d-vertical-nan-flash/
Yeah, 128GB is coming next year from more than just Samsung.
Too little, too late IMO.
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BarryH_GEG said:
...that shares many components and design concepts with other Samsung phones.
Why would a bigger SD card physically have any impact on what can be read by the phone? Samsung's devices support exFAT and a 64GB max SD card. It's not the micro (vs. standard) SD card that's imposing that limitation. Some other manufacturer's devices don't support exFAT at all and can only handle a max 32GB micro SD card.
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I don't understand your point(s).
CZ Eddie said:
Okay, if you don't UNDERSTAND the reason behind my thread, then don't come in here and waste time. Thanks. I make a post about wanting more storage and you suggest a 64GB card? lol. I already have one. But I can't fit my whole music collection on it. Even at 240kbps VBR.
I would ideally like to have about 500GB so I can carry ALL of my favorite music.
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For that, you'll probably need otg. Meaning a short cable or adapter with micro USB male at one end and female USB at the other end and that will give you the ability to connect a 512GB USB to your phone!
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CZ Eddie said:
Okay, if you don't UNDERSTAND the reason behind my thread, then don't come in here and waste time. Thanks.
I make a post about wanting more storage and you suggest a 64GB card? lol
I already have one. But I can't fit my whole music collection on it. Even at 240kbps VBR.
I would ideally like to have about 500GB so I can carry ALL of my favorite music.
I don't understand your point(s).
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Dude that is crazy. Wanting to 500gigs. Even if I had that much music I would carry it on a 512gig sdd or HDD. The note 2 has otg so it is easy to swap info as needed. I carry drivers and other miscellaneous because I do free troubleshooting and fixing old people's computers. I would to have 128 or even 256 SD cards but I wouldnt mind a 64gb note3 with 64gig micro SD. That would be great and less compromising.
CZ Eddie said:
I make a post about wanting more storage and you suggest a 64GB card? lol
I already have one. But I can't fit my whole music collection on it. Even at 240kbps VBR.
I would ideally like to have about 500GB so I can carry ALL of my favorite music.
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I am 100% with you although it's not just music I would fill 500GB with.
I have a 500GB SSD on my laptop and ideally I would be able to carry ALL OF MY FILES on my smartphone. Android, unlike the other toy mobile OSes, can do practically the same things a regular PC does and the Note II's display is big enough (still small for me though) to ENABLE taking advantage of all of the Android's capabilities.
Plus, there always are Allshare Cast, HDMI out, BT keyboard and mouse and USB OTG. In a pinch, Android smartphones can perfectly act as PC replacements (god I love this stuff and god I hate the guts of crap like iOS and other such dog sh*t!). I travel a lot and live abroad for several weeks at a time, on shorter stays I am not even carrying my laptop anymore.
I am one of those who always buy the biggest internal storage variant and the biggest external memory card which fits, at the moment I have a 16GB Note II with a 64GB Samsung UHS-1 card, if 64GB or 32GB Note IIs were sold in Europe I would have gladly paid for the biggest internal storage option available (plus, of course, the biggest fitting memory card).
The cloud is GREAT but ONLY for backups and quick syncing of SMALL files across different devices. Using it in place of local storage is for non-powerusers...
I hate it so much when I am out and about and I need some less-used file which I am not keeping on my Note (for lack of space...) and I have to retrieve it via Samsung Link (which, BTW, itself is awesome).
As for your idea of using full sized SDs, I would be all for it especially since I advocate 6"/6.3" smartphones and we are saving "so much space" with "wonderful ideas" like micro and nano SIMs (...) so I believe they would fit but that's not going to happen. We are going to have to wait for the normal evolution of micro-SDs' capacity.
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I am 100% with you although it's not just music I would fill 500GB with.
I have a 500GB SSD on my laptop and ideally I would be able to carry ALL OF MY FILES on my smartphone. Android, unlike the other toy mobile OSes, can do practically the same things a regular PC does and the Note II's display is big enough (still small for me though) to ENABLE taking advantage of all of the Android's capabilities.
Plus, there always are Allshare Cast, HDMI out, BT keyboard and mouse and USB OTG. In a pinch, Android smartphones can perfectly act as PC replacements (god I love this stuff and god I hate the guts of crap like iOS and other such dog sh*t!). I travel a lot and live abroad for several weeks at a time, on shorter stays I am not even carrying my laptop anymore.
I am one of those who always buy the biggest internal storage variant and the biggest external memory card which fits, at the moment I have a 16GB Note II with a 64GB Samsung UHS-1 card, if 64GB or 32GB Note IIs were sold in Europe I would have gladly paid for the biggest internal storage option available (plus, of course, the biggest fitting memory card).
The cloud is GREAT but ONLY for backups and quick syncing of SMALL files across different devices. Using it in place of local storage is for non-powerusers...
I hate it so much when I am out and about and I need some less-used file which I am not keeping on my Note (for lack of space...) and I have to retrieve it via Samsung Link (which, BTW, itself is awesome).
As for your idea of using full sized SDs, I would be all for it especially since I advocate 6"/6.3" smartphones and we are saving "so much space" with "wonderful ideas" like micro and nano SIMs (...) so I believe they would fit but that's not going to happen. We are going to have to wait for the normal evolution of micro-SDs' capacity.
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even if the capacityfor 500GB was available I think there would be battery concerns as would chew more power !!
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CZ Eddie said:
To those of us who like to store hundreds and hundreds of full album MP3's encoded at FLAC would love to have more phone storage.
With the NOTE being such a large phone, I sure hope Samsung designs the NOTE III or IV to have "normal" SD Card capability. Not Micro. Since the normal (or next size up) cards have twice the storage capacity.
Whacha think?
Don't bother responding unless you're one of the folks who are NOT into using the Cloud and NEED massive storage space. :good:
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Maybe you should ask Sammy to make a note with multiple compact flash slots so you can put twice the storage capacity.
For me 64gb is enough. I just hope they skip 16gb models. To small for for my needs.
I don't do cloud computing because I don't have internet access everywhere.
Anyways I also heard and read about a person who modified his note 2 to have 288gb
CZ Eddie said:
Okay, if you don't UNDERSTAND the reason behind my thread, then don't come in here and waste time. Thanks.
I make a post about wanting more storage and you suggest a 64GB card? lol
I already have one. But I can't fit my whole music collection on it. Even at 240kbps VBR.
I would ideally like to have about 500GB so I can carry ALL of my favorite music.
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So get yourself a 1-terabyte Seagate Wireless Plus drive and use that (or stick it to the back of your phone). 802.11g/n, 1TB capacity, rechargeable battery and, best of all it can act as a bridge to your regular wi-fi router so you don't have to keep switching access points. Comes with a USB 3.0 adapter so you can load up your music fast. Android app available at the Play Store (some people seem to think it's Apple only. It isn't).
jetbruceli said:
Maybe you should ask Sammy to make a note with multiple compact flash slots so you can put twice the storage capacity. For me 64gb is enough. I just hope they skip 16gb models. To small for for my needs.
I don't do cloud computing because I don't have internet access everywhere. Anyways I also heard and read about a person who modified his note 2 to have 288gb
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Modified to 288GB? Where & how? --- Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire (cm10.2) using xda premium
iCurmudgeon said:
So get yourself a 1-terabyte Seagate Wireless Plus drive and use that (or stick it to the back of your phone). 802.11g/n, 1TB capacity, rechargeable battery and, best of all it can act as a bridge to your regular wi-fi router so you don't have to keep switching access points. Comes with a USB 3.0 adapter so you can load up your music fast. Android app available at the Play Store (some people seem to think it's Apple only. It isn't).
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Good find there.
You get a terabyte of storage for less than the cost of a 256 gb sd card.
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Modified to 288GB? Where & how? --- Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire (cm10.2) using xda premium
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239413&highlight=288gb+note+2
There you go. Guy did some neat modding honestly. Bit expensive for my tastes. I think I'd just get a portable wireless drive and save time and money.
CZ Eddie said:
To those of us who like to store hundreds and hundreds of full album MP3's encoded at FLAC would love to have more phone storage.
With the NOTE being such a large phone, I sure hope Samsung designs the NOTE III or IV to have "normal" SD Card capability. Not Micro. Since the normal (or next size up) cards have twice the storage capacity.
Whacha think?
Don't bother responding unless you're one of the folks who are NOT into using the Cloud and NEED massive storage space. :good:
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What kind of thread is this really? From the title, it sounds like you have already established that the note 3 doesn't support "normal sd card" and then you say I hope it'll have normal sd card..... Makes a lot of sense.
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What kind of thread is this really? From the title, it sounds like you have already established that the note 3 doesn't support "normal sd card" and then you say I hope it'll have normal sd card..... Makes a lot of sense.
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No kidding, Sherlock!
Exactly!
And no, I'm simply wishing it would have normal SD card capability.
And hopefully, somehow, Samsung will take notice of my request or someone else's and implement massive storage into the Note IV.
It's far too late for the Note III, and possibly too late for the IV as well. These things are already being designed well before the previous version is even released.
USB-OTG... a great solution for keeping your storage in a particular location. Not much good if I want to suddenly have access to all my storage when I'm at a friends house though.
Pshhh to most of the other posters. Only one or two get it on this thread so far.
I'm not a newb. I know what my CURRENT options are.
This thread is about hoping for future, BETTER options as far as storage goes.
And yes, multiple MicroSD cards in one phone would be a suitable alternative.
Better yet, multiple normal SD cards would be even better.
BarryH_GEG said:
...that shares many components and design concepts with other Samsung phones.
Why would a bigger SD card physically have any impact on what can be read by the phone? Samsung's devices support exFAT and a 64GB max SD card. It's not the micro (vs. standard) SD card that's imposing that limitation. Some other manufacturer's devices don't support exFAT at all and can only handle a max 32GB micro SD card.
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The 64GB "limit" doesn't actually exist. It's just that there are no larger capacity cards. If you align the pins or use a correct adapter you can use a 128GB card without any problems.
OP, I hope you're actually ripping the FLACs from a CD or getting them ripped, converting MP3s to FLAC won't do you any good.
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CZ Eddie said:
No kidding, Sherlock!
Exactly!
And no, I'm simply wishing it would have normal SD card capability.
And hopefully, somehow, Samsung will take notice of my request or someone else's and implement massive storage into the Note IV.
It's far too late for the Note III, and possibly too late for the IV as well. These things are already being designed well before the previous version is even released.
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I'm sure Sammy would do it, but at what cost? The unlocked model of the Note 2 is already north of $600 ... even with carrier subsidies a phone with what you want would cost at least that, probably $2000 unlocked. All the fun and games that would make it possible just isn't worth it to me. No smartphone is.
mudge
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I'm sure Sammy would do it, but at what cost? The unlocked model of the Note 2 is already north of $600 ... even with carrier subsidies a phone with what you want would cost at least that, probably $2000 unlocked.
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$1400 more for a SD card slot compared to microSD card slot... sounds legit
A better solution would be a phone with 2 microsd slots. Wouldn't cost a small fortune.
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My original question:
Anyone know how is this SD card support on Xoom?
I meant, is it micro SD card, mini or full size?
Is there any hardware slot?
Or is it via USB port?
I don't recall there is hardware slot there to insert SD card when I saw all those "hands on".
Answer from Motorola support can be seen from my update here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11546402&postcount=19
gogol said:
Anyone know how is this SD card support on Xoom?
I meant, is it micro SD card, mini or full size?
Is there any hardware slot?
Or is it via USB port?
I don't recall there is hardware slot there to insert SD card when I saw all those "hands on".
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All legit androids use microSD, as does the XOOM.
I don't know what you mean by hardware slot.
USB Port? Are you asking how the microSD slot interfaces with the device? Your question is good, because I too have been wondering where the SD Card goes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motor...ardware-upgrade-4g-software-patch-microsd-use
I am not seeing any mention of SD card slot in the specs or in the user manual. Am I missing it somewhere?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...rice/1946179.p?id=1218305636450&skuId=1946179
There is a microsd slot at the top of the device. I think i remember seeing it in a hands on video
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There is a microsd slot at the top of the device. I think i remember seeing it in a hands on video
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I saw it in a video but it was not the same model. It had a different color for the back. But it is odd that on Best Buy site the specs show NO for sd slot and no mention of it on Motorola site or user manual. Not sure why this is a big secret since it is a big deal and in fact, deal breaker for me if it is not there.
keitht said:
I saw it in a video but it was not the same model. It had a different color for the back. But it is odd that on Best Buy site the specs show NO for sd slot and no mention of it on Motorola site or user manual. Not sure why this is a big secret since it is a big deal and in fact, deal breaker for me if it is not there.
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I think I remember hearing somewhere around CES that the SD card slot didn't work and was going to be activated by a later patch. What's up with the Xoom being shipped with all kinds of missing functionality?
The BGR hands-on with the Xoom this week mentions the microSD slot is on the top of the device, along with the headphone jack and SIM slot (if applicable). There is a microSD slot on the device. It's been mentioned several times that it will require a software update from Moto to activate it - it's not clear whether that's a Google issue or a Motorola issue. There has been some speculation that it was because Android 3.0 didn't yet support SD cards at the time the Xoom was being demo'd.
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The BGR hands-on with the Xoom this week mentions the microSD slot is on the top of the device, along with the headphone jack and SIM slot (if applicable). There is a microSD slot on the device. It's been mentioned several times that it will require a software update from Moto to activate it - it's not clear whether that's a Google issue or a Motorola issue. There has been some speculation that it was because Android 3.0 didn't yet support SD cards at the time the Xoom was being demo'd.
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Perhaps that is why it is not mentioned in any of the official specs. Pretty lame for a $800 device. So I wonder if the slot is there, when it will actually work? Very sloppy.
on page 10 of the manual theres a reference to microsd card. as for where it is i remember seeing it on the top of the xoom during hands on videos.
socomdark said:
on page 10 of the manual theres a reference to microsd card. as for where it is i remember seeing it on the top of the xoom during hands on videos.
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Thanks, I missed that:
"Tips & tricks
• Photos and videos are stored on your micro SD
memory card."
I just hope it actually works without waiting for an update. It is odd that Best Buy specs for the device do not mention an SD slot even exists.
Yes. Support WILL come. I would love to know how they are having trouble with something so basic. Based on the Viewsonic G-Tablet labeling internal memory as SD 1 and the SD card as SD 2.. perhaps they are working on a more fluid integration of it. As long as they let me put the 50,000 apps I plan to install on the internal memory similar to App2SD I'm happy for now.
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Perhaps that is why it is not mentioned in any of the official specs. Pretty lame for a $800 device. So I wonder if the slot is there, when it will actually work? Very sloppy.
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I'm not bashing the iPad, but do the expensive iPad WiFi+3G versions support microSD? No, they don't. MicroSD support will come, likely shortly after launch, and 32GB of storage will be enough to tide people over until it does. I'm not worried about it.
dwboston said:
I'm not bashing the iPad, but do the expensive iPad WiFi+3G versions support microSD? No, they don't. MicroSD support will come, likely shortly after launch, and 32GB of storage will be enough to tide people over until it does. I'm not worried about it.
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I don't understand this comparison. If Apple had a MicroSD card on the device, it would most definitely work out of the box.
dwboston said:
I'm not bashing the iPad, but do the expensive iPad WiFi+3G versions support microSD? No, they don't. MicroSD support will come, likely shortly after launch, and 32GB of storage will be enough to tide people over until it does. I'm not worried about it.
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An interesting point. iPad doesn't have the functionality at all and never will based on current devices. You have to decide how much space you want at release, which I find annoying as I always bought the cheapest device.
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I don't understand this comparison. If Apple had a MicroSD card on the device, it would most definitely work out of the box.
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On one hand, I agree, Apple never releases a device unfinished. On the other hand, they accomplish this by taking a long time for a device to come to market, and they are always behind in both specs and features.
Apple has proven the merit of a wholly controlled ecosystem that lends to a more solid device. Many people don't care about specs and advanced features.
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An interesting point. iPad doesn't have the functionality at all and never will based on current devices. You have to decide how much space you want at release, which I find annoying as I always bought the cheapest device.
On one hand, I agree, Apple never releases a device unfinished. On the other hand, they accomplish this by taking a long time for a device to come to market, and they are always behind in both specs and features.
Apple has proven the merit of a wholly controlled ecosystem that lends to a more solid device. Many people don't care about specs and advanced features.
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Apple does take their time and won't rush to just release a product.
I am sure motorola will have a patch ready to go soon if not already. they may have already gotten it done and put on the device.
Being an early adopter of gadgets I understand that sometimes the first release can be a little buggy.
However it bugs me that Motorola did not clarify these issues. No flash and no SD support out of the gate is something that should have been clarified to everyone. I have followed pretty closely the last month and did not realize either of these issues until today.
Having the promise of working features after day 1 is not always a lock as my Galaxy S phone was promised to have an update for flash support and an update to fix the GPS issue yet that has never happened.
i am still buying one on Thursday but will be deciding on the 29th day if I feel I can trust Motorola.
MOTO just wanted to wear the hat of "first to market a honeycomb tablet". Its a race for that hat, with solid patches coming down the pipe pretty quickly.
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An interesting point. iPad doesn't have the functionality at all and never will based on current devices. You have to decide how much space you want at release, which I find annoying as I always bought the cheapest device.
On one hand, I agree, Apple never releases a device unfinished. On the other hand, they accomplish this by taking a long time for a device to come to market, and they are always behind in both specs and features.
Apple has proven the merit of a wholly controlled ecosystem that lends to a more solid device. Many people don't care about specs and advanced features.
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Not sure why we are talking about the Ianything.. But Cut and Paste wasn't initially supported ... enough said.
This has been answered by the Motorola supports:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45325?tstart=0
DansDroid wrote:
Yes Sir, received it today. Here are my readings with all of my apps and settings automatically transferred over. Total internal storage is 28.78gb., 698 mb. media, 518 mb. applications and 27.60 gb. available. There is an external sliding door for the external microSD card and SIM tray that will allow for the Verizon 4G LTE card when both are available in a future software upgrade. The external microSD card, when enabled, will support up to 32 gb., as I had thought. --- Dan
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So, apparently, this could be something NEW to Android.
There is only 1 single partition for all apps, media, files, etc.
That's good!
I think I talked about this in a different thread, but the reason for the delay in sd card support is because the sd card will not be mounted/unmounted whenever you plug it into the pc. Which I would prefer. Having my sd card mount and unmount every time I plug it into the pc is annoying.
This is the reason for the delay. Rebuilding the wheel takes some time.
On Digitimes "Samsung reportedly to phase out from microSD card market" as you can see it is being reported that Samsung plans to phase out microSD cards http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130507PD224.html. Also, consider if they go the way of Amazon, Nexus and the rest with no microSD cards--no way for users to warehouse their own data. Therefore requiring an internet connection to access your own data, then there will be few products out there with microSD cards and the storage you buy will be all you have unless you want to store your information on remote servers "cloud" to be accessed only if you have a web connection.
To voice your opinion about microSD cards you can email [email protected] and input. The more people who input on wanting them to continue to use microSD cards/slots in their future products the better chance they will keep the technology. I know this is a matter of choice and everyone feels differently about it, but, if you value having microSD please contact Samsung.
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On Digitimes "Samsung reportedly to phase out from microSD card market" as you can see it is being reported that Samsung plans to phase out microSD cards http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130507PD224.html. Also, consider if they go the way of Amazon, Nexus and the rest with no microSD cards--no way for users to warehouse their own data. Therefore requiring an internet connection to access your own data, then there will be few products out there with microSD cards and the storage you buy will be all you have unless you want to store your information on remote servers "cloud" to be accessed only if you have a web connection.
To voice your opinion about microSD cards you can email [email protected] and input. The more people who input on wanting them to continue to use microSD cards/slots in their future products the better chance they will keep the technology. I know this is a matter of choice and everyone feels differently about it, but, if you value having microSD please contact Samsung.
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If there do not provide what I would consider ample storage I would just move to another manufactures device that did or still used external storage.
To be clear, though, the article is not about Samsung discontinuing microSD support on its devices. It does not address that.
The article says that Samsung is going to stop making microSD cards. I don't know that I've bought Samsung flash in a microsd package - I may have, but there will continue to be other vendors.
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To be clear, though, the article is not about Samsung discontinuing microSD support on its devices. It does not address that.
The article says that Samsung is going to stop making microSD cards. I don't know that I've bought Samsung flash in a microsd package - I may have, but there will continue to be other vendors.
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So you think they will provide microSD card slots so users can continue to use them & buy (give money to) another vendor? Not sure whether they will or not but we can input if we appreciate having microSD capability by letting them know instead of waiting to see what they do.
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So you think they will provide microSD card slots so users can continue to use them & buy (give money to) another vendor? Not sure whether they will or not but we can input if we appreciate having microSD capability by letting them know instead of waiting to see what they do.
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I guess they will stop making phone with microusb and there are people out here buying micro usb cables from other vendors.
aalupatti said:
I guess they will stop making phone with microusb and there are people out here buying micro usb cables from other vendors.
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Not saying that either but best to be safe than sorry. Lot easier to install a custom rom from a external SD then using your laptop to always side-load them.
edirector said:
So you think they will provide microSD card slots so users can continue to use them & buy (give money to) another vendor? Not sure whether they will or not but we can input if we appreciate having microSD capability by letting them know instead of waiting to see what they do.
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This has little or no bearing on removable MicroSD support on Samsung devices. They probably don't make batteries, yet they still make phones that use batteries (and therefore "giving money to another vendor").
The computer memory market in general is incredibly competitive, and not horribly profitable. I didn't even know Samsung made MicroSD cards to begin with. Maybe its just me, but they never seemed like a big player in the memory market (like SanDisk, Kingston, etc.), so its not surprising to see them exit it.
Yes, there is some trend to embedded memory on tablets and phones (at least on iPhones, HTC, and some other brands). But as long as there is some demand for removable MicroSD support, Samsung will probbaly continue to offer it. They seem to be carving a niche for themselves in the mobile market, by offering features lacked by other brands.
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edirector said:
Lot easier to install a custom rom from a external SD then using your laptop to always side-load them.
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Its ridiculously easy to load a ROM onto embedded memory by mounting USB, either via recovery or just in the Android OS itself. Not any more complicated than loading a ROM onto a removable MicroSD card using a card reader.
I use the Samsung "Pro" microSD cards and prefer them over the Sandisk, but it seems that Samsung hasn't really been very aggressive in marketing these products. As far as other Samsung memory products, their 830- & 840-Series SSD drives are tops. I prefer them over the Crucial and Sandisk SDDs as well. I think Samsung makes the bulk of their memory profits from large OEM contracts for on-board memory, such as for Apple iPhone, etc.
As far as Samsung eliminating the mSD card slot on their future devices, that would certainly be a bummer IMO, but only time will tell if this becomes a reality.
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I use the Samsung "Pro" microSD cards and prefer them over the Sandisk, but it seems that Samsung hasn't really been very aggressive in marketing these products. As far as other Samsung memory products, their 830- & 840-Series SSD drives are tops. I prefer them over the Crucial and Sandisk SDDs as well. I think Samsung makes the bulk of their memory profits from large OEM contracts for on-board memory, such as for Apple iPhone, etc.
As far as Samsung eliminating the mSD card slot on their future devices, that would certainly be a bummer IMO, but only time will tell if this becomes a reality.
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Samsung responded to my email. They said they are researching the source of that article statement and that it would be something they would announce to customers. They, of course, appreciated the input and forwarded the inquiry to the appropriate department for clarity. So writing does help and they did respond. One thing it did, was let them know someone appreciated having microSD cards & slots.
Is it in the works? I really want a 64GB version. 32GB is not enough for me. Keep running out of space.
Also:
I'm pissed off that Google intentionally kept us from upgrading, doing the same shady crap Apple does, exploiting consumers and stealing from them with the business model. by intentionally not adding expandable storage and charging more for higher memory.
I'm disappointed that Galaxy Tab 7 still isn't close to the performance of Nexus 7. (dual core, etc.) I would gladly pay more for a device which had the same performance and looks of Nexus 7 but with external SDXC slot.
Your posting in the wrong section. Should be in qa.
Also most likely no ones gonna know ...
And yeah it sucks there isn't a micro SD slot. But for the price we pay for the device we can't really complain
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Your posting in the wrong section. Should be in qa.
Also most likely no ones gonna know ...
And yeah it sucks there isn't a micro SD slot. But for the price we pay for the device we can't really complain.
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Thanks for the tip, didn't know about that section.
As for complaining, I can complain from an ethical standpoint.
Don't really think I would consider that unethical.
More memory = higher cost for manufacture.
Same thing as buying a 500gb hard drive vs 1 tb.
Also you can use a flash drive with an adapter
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Don't really think I would consider that unethical.
More memory = higher cost for manufacture.
Same thing as buying a 500gb hard drive vs 1 tb.
Also you can use a flash drive with an adapter
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Not true.
More memory does Not = higher cost for manufacturer.
Put in 16GB and add an SD card slot. Then consumers can decide if they want to buy extra memory which is MUCH CHEAPER than the "upgrade" to the 32GB closed device.
Didn't you know this?
Google has no justification except Apple's - intentional consumer exploitation to make a profit.
The logic that Google has a 0-profit margin is irrelevant. Because if they were really not trying to make a profit, then they'd let us upgrade to as much storage as we want.
I don't think so about a 64gb version. The Nexus supports USB thumb drives using OTG cable. They make OTG microUSB-microSD adapters.
Google is pushing their cloud storage services so a 64gb would not be in their best interest.
Plus what do you need 64gb of data for use at all times? You don't need to carry a whole movie or music collection everywhere you go. If you're going on a trip then throw what you need on there. I have never gotten a low storage message on 32gb.
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I don't think so about a 64gb version. The Nexus supports USB thumb drives using OTG cable. They make OTG microUSB-microSD adapters.
Google is pushing their cloud storage services so a 64gb would not be in their best interest.
Plus what do you need 64gb of data for use at all times? You don't need to carry a whole movie or music collection everywhere you go. If you're going on a trip then throw what you need on there. I have never gotten a low storage message on 32gb.
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First off, I'm NEVER buying cloud. EVER. I'm not even going to get into my reasons for this.
Second, USB is not practical. Then you've got this thing hanging off the end. We don't want that.
Third, ideally I'd like to have my full ebook and audiobook collection as well as music collection and videos too available on my device. I can connect to my home PC filesystem when at home, but when I'm away I don't want to have to stream data over a network. I want the data on my device.
By the way, SDXC supports up to 2TB SD cards. Obviously 2TB SD is not out yet, but it has the upwards capability.
I get low storage on my 32GB daily. I started getting it shortly after buying the device. Because I do tons of stuff and have TONS of data that I WANT on my device. It's what I want, you can't argue with what I want.
I would like terabytes worth, but since that's not possible I at least want to be able to CHOOSE if I want to upgrade the device to the maximum memory possible - which by the way is currently a 256GB SD card.
In 2009, almost 5 years ago now, Wired talked about how 2TB micro SDXC card is coming soon. So it's on the horizon.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/01/two-terabyte-sd/
In this video of the Mobile World Congress 2009, the manufacturer talks about how "2TB micro SD could be about 5 years to come out". That was in 2009. 5 years from 2009 is 2014.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJAlbPBOsNo
What do you mean "buying cloud"?
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First off, I'm NEVER buying cloud. EVER. I'm not even going to get into my reasons for this.
Second, USB is not practical. Then you've got this thing hanging off the end. We don't want that.
Third, ideally I'd like to have my full ebook and audiobook collection as well as music collection and videos too available on my device. I can connect to my home PC filesystem when at home, but when I'm away I don't want to have to stream data over a network. I want the data on my device.
By the way, SDXC supports up to 2TB SD cards. Obviously 2TB SD is not out yet, but it has the upwards capability.
I get low storage on my 32GB daily. I started getting it shortly after buying the device. Because I do tons of stuff and have TONS of data that I WANT on my device. It's what I want, you can't argue with what I want.
I would like terabytes worth, but since that's not possible I at least want to be able to CHOOSE if I want to upgrade the device to the maximum memory possible - which by the way is currently a 256GB SD card.
In 2009, almost 5 years ago now, Wired talked about how 2TB micro SDXC card is coming soon. So it's on the horizon.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/01/two-terabyte-sd/
In this video of the Mobile World Congress 2009, the manufacturer talks about how "2TB micro SD could be about 5 years to come out". That was in 2009. 5 years from 2009 is 2014.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJAlbPBOsNo
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If what you want is more storage, and you are not willing to argue what you want, I guess I have only one question for you.
Why did you buy a 32GB tablet, knowing full well that it has no removable storage and you refuse to use cloud storage? You knew it wouldn't be enough storage yet you bought it knowing this and then complain. I don't get it, unless I'm missing something.
I could be wrong, but I think Google or Asus would have to pay some type of licensing fee if they wanted to include a microsd card slot. I think that was their reasoning for not having it and the cloud of course.
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Maybe instead of spending your time complaining you can learn to mod the device. Someone modded a GS3 to hold 128gb or something like that.
Oh wait I know what your reply will be... "But it's MY money and I should be able to spend it to buy what I WANT."
I'm just letting you know that you sound like a spoiled kid. You are entitled to your opinion and whatever but idk if you're using your time wisely.
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Is it in the works? I really want a 64GB version. 32GB is not enough for me. Keep running out of space.
Also:
I'm pissed off that Google intentionally kept us from upgrading, doing the same shady crap Apple does, exploiting consumers and stealing from them with the business model. by intentionally not adding expandable storage and charging more for higher memory.
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At least included left USB-OTG support.
Get a meenova if you want some unobtrusive sdcard expansion.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andyfei/mini-microsd-reader-for-android-smartphones-and-ta
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I don't think so about a 64gb version. The Nexus supports USB thumb drives using OTG cable. They make OTG microUSB-microSD adapters.
Google is pushing their cloud storage services so a 64gb would not be in their best interest.
Plus what do you need 64gb of data for use at all times? You don't need to carry a whole movie or music collection everywhere you go. If you're going on a trip then throw what you need on there. I have never gotten a low storage message on 32gb.
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OTG isn't working on Android 4.3, it's a bug (reported by Nexus Media Importer), but it works fine in recovery.
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I don't think so about a 64gb version. The Nexus supports USB thumb drives using OTG cable. They make OTG microUSB-microSD adapters.
Google is pushing their cloud storage services so a 64gb would not be in their best interest.
Plus what do you need 64gb of data for use at all times? You don't need to carry a whole movie or music collection everywhere you go. If you're going on a trip then throw what you need on there. I have never gotten a low storage message on 32gb.
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Bro, FHD takes space. I'm with OP. I am having to transcode my BD rips to get more than 3 to fit. What if those aren't the three I end up wanting to watch while on travel?
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Hm, sounds like your needs are not met with the device you have. So, Why not research and get a device that fits your needs?
1. Your needs are that you need to store all of your ebooks, audio books, etc without putting it on cloud.
2. You realized that 32gb is not enough storage, and currently there are no plans for Google to come out with 64gb version of nexus 7. (at least that I know of)
3. You do not want an OTG cable and something hanging from the device.
4. I think it may be in your best interest to find another device that fits your needs or, make modification to your current device as some of the other members mentioned.
Good luck.
There's a microSD reader in the works that's barely larger than the card itself. That should suffice anyone. I however also agree that not offering a card slot is greedy on Google's part. Hell I'd would have still bought the 32G version if it had an expansion slot and probably stuck a 64G card in the slot. Of course I'm a storage whore.
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There's a microSD reader in the works that's barely larger than the card itself. That should suffice anyone. I however also agree that not offering a card slot is greedy on Google's part. Hell I'd would have still bought the 32G version if it had an expansion slot and probably stuck a 64G card in the slot. Of course I'm a storage whore.
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http://androidandme.com/thread/kickstarter-usb-otg-microsd-reader-2-days-left/
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OTG isn't working on Android 4.3, it's a bug (reported by Nexus Media Importer), but it works fine in recovery.
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I don't think it was that OTG isn't working but the android functionality used by Nexus Media Importer to get notified and mount the drive wasn't working.
The kernel support for OTG must be working because stickmount works.
NMI uses Android level access so doesn't need root. Stickmount uses lower level access so it needs root.
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OTG isn't working on Android 4.3, it's a bug (reported by Nexus Media Importer), but it works fine in recovery.
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Then please explain to me how I was and am able to access and view all files from my flash drive via USB OTG.
It seems to me that OP has a completely unabashed and irrational sense of entitlement that clouds his ability to censor his posts to intellectual or relevant topics.
Hopefully he will read this thread in a couple of days and feel shame and embarrassment with the way he flaunts his self serving arrogance.
Imho.
sfhub said:
I don't think it was that OTG isn't working but the android functionality used by Nexus Media Importer to get notified and mount the drive wasn't working.
The kernel support for OTG must be working because stickmount works.
NMI uses Android level access so doesn't need root. Stickmount uses lower level access so it needs root.
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It was my fault, I use stickmount too, but it was due to my micro USB micro SD card reader couldn't read my 64gb SD card but my 32gb worked fine.
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Then please explain to me how I was and am able to access and view all files from my flash drive via USB OTG.
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Someone sounds mad.
I've seen a few threads talking about it but i have to rant...in light of recent rumors about the note 5 s design i just cant contain it anymore...
I don't understand how or why Samsung could lose the SD card slot from the note line. I know their new ufs storage is fast but its absolutely no replacement for swappable sd storage. There's also otg support for flash drives but that's hardly as convenient.
I've seen the out lash from current note owners and unless Samsung is trying to capture a completely different customer base (which i suppose they maybe trying for apple users) i feel they've made or making a big mistake. By what I've seen they could easily lose half of the note line fans. They have to read the forums they have to know peoples opinions, how or why ????;!!!!! Would they do this. The note series has a very strong following in my opinion and it seems the phone has always been a productivity machine aimed at a different group of users mainly power users or professionals it seems to me this is completely counter productive on Samsung's
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All i can say is i love my note 4 and was really looking forward to the device the note 5 could be i have a feeling its going to be very disappointing.
Glad i got one before the line was ruined by corporate blindness... Sorry i had to rant i know how others feel generally but sound off let Samsung know we
DISAPPROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well they could add the SD card slot like HTC did with the HTC One Max. It doesn't have a removable battery but it does have a removable back and you have access to the SD card slot.
"Screws up the Note line"? Get over it. There will be a 128gb option for all your storage needs and if you reeeeeeeealy need to transfer files quickly (or whatever you're doing) simply use OTG. Sd cards suck and are unreliable. Good riddance. And good riddance to the removable back as well.
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"Screws up the Note line"? Get over it. There will be a 128gb option for all your storage needs and if you reeeeeeeealy need to transfer files quickly (or whatever you're doing) simply use OTG. Sd cards suck and are unreliable. Good riddance. And good riddance to the removable back as well.
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Out of curiosity which micro sdxc cards have you used, and found to be inadequate?
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Out of curiosity which micro sdxc cards have you used, and found to be inadequate?
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Many different brands, all class 10. Have had random failures that needed reformats.
I've never had an sd card fail on me in a decade of using them, do you guys buy the 10$ 64gb cards or something?
-Sent from my 128gb iPad that's full and annoying me
If all of your cards crap out on you and get corrupted, it's either user error or else you're buying crappy cards. I've only had 2 cards fail on me since the early 2000s, both of them sandisk class 10s which are known for failure. Switched to a Samsung card and I've had no problems.
Sealed battery & no card slot is a dealbreaker for me., if I wanted a damn iPhone I would have bought one. Removing features is a downgrade, not an improvement. Yes I'm sure they will have a 128gb note 5, for the low cost of only $1000 or so! No thanks. I'll be keeping my Note 4 until an actual upgrade comes out.
I think we (me included) keep thinking the users here (xda) are the majority in the Android world. We are, by far, the minority. What we want is not even close to being considered when Sammy develops a phone. They have extremely educated individuals heading their research and development. They know what people want and they know what people need. What they are putting out is exactly what the majority wants and needs. Removable battery? Not needed. SD card? Not needed. Just my 2 cents
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Sealed battery & no card slot is a dealbreaker for me., if I wanted a damn iPhone I would have bought one. Removing features is a downgrade, not an improvement. Yes I'm sure they will have a 128gb note 5, for the low cost of only $1000 or so! No thanks. I'll be keeping my Note 4 until an actual upgrade comes out.
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Well then sounds like the Note 5 isn't for you. Stick with the Note 4 while the rest of us enjoy it. So if they add 10 features to the Note 5 but only remove 2 (removable battery, sd card) the phone is still a failure? Is that how you always do math or? And you calling a Note an iPhone is absolutely ridiculous. There is almost no comparison between a Note and an iPhone. The stylus and multi window puts the Note into another category.
Please give me one real world example of why a removable battery and SD card is necessary. I need to see this logic first hand.
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"Screws up the Note line"? Get over it. There will be a 128gb option for all your storage needs and if you reeeeeeeealy need to transfer files quickly (or whatever you're doing) simply use OTG. Sd cards suck and are unreliable. Good riddance. And good riddance to the removable back as well.
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between internal storage, internal app storage and all of the media files and work files I have on my Note 4 I would easily eat up 128 GB internal storage. I right now I have 32 GB internal and 128 GB exSD. I have 7gb free internally and about 20 GB free on the exSD.
It's not like the hardware for an exSD reader is expensive or anything, I do get why they wouldn't include one. Not to mention I have 3 Android devices and do not want to have to duplicate my exam files onto all three of them. It's much easier just to swap out the exam card.
What is even more perplexing is that in Android M the exam card gains back all of the original functionality and even gets new features, like storage merge, and hot swap.
It's funny to me that Samsung is doing away with the exam right as Google is about to launch a Nexus device with an exam slot.
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between internal storage, internal app storage and all of the media files and work files I have on my Note 4 I would easily eat up 128 GB internal storage. I right now I have 32 GB internal and 128 GB exSD. I have 7gb free internally and about 20 GB free on the exSD.
It's not like the hardware for an exSD reader is expensive or anything, I do get why they wouldn't include one. Not to mention I have 3 Android devices and do not want to have to duplicate my exam files onto all three of them. It's much easier just to swap out the exam card.
What is even more perplexing is that in Android M the exam card gains back all of the original functionality and even gets new features, like storage merge, and hot swap.
It's funny to me that Samsung is doing away with the exam right as Google is about to launch a Nexus device with an exam slot.
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Sounds to me like you need to maybe only carry around 14 of your favorite HD movies instead of all 22 of your favorite movies. I mean seriously 128gb of files on a phone is a little absurd. I don't care what kind of information it is. Consolidate or start storing stuff on a hard drive at home. This does not justify the whole SD card debate.
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Sounds to me like you need to maybe only carry around 14 of your favorite HD movies instead of all 22 of your favorite movies. I mean seriously 128gb of files on a phone is a little absurd. I don't care what kind of information it is. Consolidate or start storing stuff on a hard drive at home. This does not justify the whole SD card debate.
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I have 1 500 GB HD and 3 240 GB SSD's full on my PC at home. It's actually not any movies on my phone. I use Plex as a media server for my home computer so all of the movies are on there.
I will admit there is 50 GB of music on my phone, but the largest amount of storage is related to my work. The files and scripts I work with off my phone are huge. 128gb internally just wouldn't be enough.
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I have 1 500 GB HD and 3 240 GB SSD's full on my PC at home. It's actually not any movies on my phone. I use Plex as a media server for my home computer so all of the movies are on there.
I will admit there is 50 GB of music on my phone, but the largest amount of storage is related to my work. The files and scripts I work with off my phone are huge. 128gb internally just wouldn't be enough.
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Get a huge usb stick or flash drive instead of trying to make your phone do that job for you. You seriously get to work, power down your phone, pull the back of your phone off, pull the battery out, pull the sd card out, put it into the computer, transfer eight thousand files onto the sd card, wait 25 minutes for that to happen while your phone is not functioning, then take the sd card out of the computer, put it back in your phone, put the battery back in your phone, put the back cover back on (making sure to check it twice to be sure all the edges are snapped down), and then wait for your phone to boot up? You do this each day? I hate your life. Figure something else out.
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Get a huge usb stick or flash drive instead of trying to make your phone do that job for you. You seriously get to work, power down your phone, pull the back of your phone off, pull the battery out, pull the sd card out, put it into the computer, transfer eight thousand files onto the sd card, wait 25 minutes for that to happen while your phone is not functioning, then take the sd card out of the computer, put it back in your phone, put the battery back in your phone, put the back cover back on (making sure to check it twice to be sure all the edges are snapped down), and then wait for your phone to boot up? You do this each day? I hate your life. Figure something else out.
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I work remotely and manage a huge system for a fortune 100 company. I need to have the files with me so if I need to pull any of them up at any time, whereever I am, I have them. I also run a virtual machine on my phone so I can run the programs and scripts I have stored on exam card. If I need a bigger screen I do power down and pull the exam out and put it in my tablet, but I haven't touched a desktop PC for work purposes in a long while.
The world of "going into the office" and "transferring files" to and from a phone is dying. I haven't had a desk at an office in almost 3 years.
Yesterday I worked from my boat.
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I work remotely and manage a huge system for a fortune 100 company. I need to have the files with me so if I need to pull any of them up at any time, whereever I am, I have them. I also run a virtual machine on my phone so I can run the programs and scripts I have stored on exam card. If I need a bigger screen I do power down and pull the exam out and put it in my tablet, but I haven't touched a desktop PC for work purposes in a long while.
The world of "going into the office" and "transferring files" to and from a phone is dying. I haven't had a desk at an office in almost 3 years.
Yesterday I worked from my boat.
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ShrekOpher said:
I work remotely and manage a huge system for a fortune 100 company. I need to have the files with me so if I need to pull any of them up at any time, whereever I am, I have them. I also run a virtual machine on my phone so I can run the programs and scripts I have stored on exam card. If I need a bigger screen I do power down and pull the exam out and put it in my tablet, but I haven't touched a desktop PC for work purposes in a long while.
The world of "going into the office" and "transferring files" to and from a phone is dying. I haven't had a desk at an office in almost 3 years.
Yesterday I worked from my boat.
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BUT your type still only makes up .05% of their market.
ShrekOpher said:
I work remotely and manage a huge system for a fortune 100 company. I need to have the files with me so if I need to pull any of them up at any time, whereever I am, I have them. I also run a virtual machine on my phone so I can run the programs and scripts I have stored on exam card. If I need a bigger screen I do power down and pull the exam out and put it in my tablet, but I haven't touched a desktop PC for work purposes in a long while.
The world of "going into the office" and "transferring files" to and from a phone is dying. I haven't had a desk at an office in almost 3 years.
Yesterday I worked from my boat.
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Sounds like Samsung should keep the SD card around for the 3 people in the United States who will use their phone like you do lol
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Sounds like Samsung should keep the SD card around for the 3 people in the United States who will use their phone like you do lol
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It is a growing market segment though, unlike the iphone ish market which is completely saturated. Every month more people use there phones like I do.
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I'll say this for you people losing your minds (again, didn't we beat this horse to death twice when the S6 was announced) over batteries and SD cards, you need to realize giving your VERY SPECIFIC situation as to why you think Samsung's decision are bad, comes off as very egocentric.
I am one of those (apparently few?) that have never stuck an SDcard into their Note 4, never had to pull the battery and yatta yatta yatta, but I still get why you would want those things.
Problem is we can't even have a debate when the only real discussion points include very specific scenarios that in no reality should influence a company's design decisions.
Ultimately this isn't an arranged marriage. This isn't a family member, a pet. This is a souless mobile conglomerate, and they are in the business of selling phones. Not caring about the individual needs of a few Android elitists on XDA..
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It is a growing market segment though, unlike the iphone ish market which is completely saturated. Every month more people use there phones like I do.
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It's actually shrinking because the trend of the market has been to increase internal memory. If you remember, tons of phone early on REQUIRED SD cards because there was no internal user memory
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Look at development for the s6/s6edge. They might as well merge the forum for the absolute lack of development that's allowed with Samsungs new chips. I'm a member of xda for a reason. I'm keeping my note4. Note 5 means that roms become themes. I'm str8 on that
I'm a humble warehouse manager and many inventory programs allow offline snapshots of the databases for remote use. Multiple images of tens of thousands of parts with consignment and routing data take up over 80 gb. My technicians carry hd searchable schematics for thousands of components with dozens of configurations, giving them preloaded sd cards is a easy solution to making sure they can look up any part of the various wind turbine models you find in Wyoming where there's no data coverage. From other warehouses we pass off schematics for oil rig equipment in the same fashion which is also serviced where the cloud doesn't reach, construction friends keep hd cad schematics of dozens of projects on their phones so they can always double check notes anywhere. The sd card/removable battery market segment is very much alive in the form of hundreds of thousands of technicians and contractors keeping up with rapidly changing technology and information services who depend on their trusty companion device to always have the answer.
Such a huge disappointment to me personally....Samsung is apparently not allowing adoptable storage, meaning that everyone in Europe will be stuck with 32 gb minus whatever is reserved for the OS. I am still at a loss as to how Samsung came up with the brilliant idea to have only 32 gb models available.
It seems that the same also goes for the new LG G5.
Well, I was very close to buying my first ever Samsung phone....
It might have to do with the ufs storage being so fast that sticking a cheap/slow sd card will hamper loading times with apps that are installed on it . Thats my guess at least.
Something like this will probably work. I would bet this technique will work fine on the s7 with either no or minor modifications.
https://reddit.com/r/lgg4/comments/3z1bfi/enable_adoptable_storage_on_your_lg_g4_stock_no/
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I think it's a good idea. Store your media in microSD, let UFS handle apps. There is a good write-up here to understand the concept.
http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-adoptable-storage
Adoptable storage is really only useful for two things:
- An SD card placed in a phone or tablet and never to be removed
- A USB storage device attached to your Android TV box, and never to be removed.
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That means your microSD is NOT removeable while using adopotable storage option.
If you try to remove it, things go haywire.
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There's also the bit about how SD cards have a limited number of times they can be read from and written to. Using an SD card the "normal" way means failures are uncommon. When you start caching data and reading and writing at a rate higher than a card was designed to handle, problems can arise.
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I personally prefer it split. The default folder structure is a complete mess and its such a pain having to find my documents, music, camera folders etc when they are all mixed in with junk folders so its much better to have them stored separately on the sd card. I just wish that Chrome would add the option of changing the default download location.
NYanakiev1 said:
Such a huge disappointment to me personally....Samsung is apparently not allowing adoptable storage, meaning that everyone in Europe will be stuck with 32 gb minus whatever is reserved for the OS. I am still at a loss as to how Samsung came up with the brilliant idea to have only 32 gb models available.
It seems that the same also goes for the new LG G5.
Well, I was very close to buying my first ever Samsung phone....
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Same here, I was going to pre-order one with 64gb or 128gb but only 32gb available; what a disappointment. I don't like to use micro SD card. I'm not getting one for that reason.
I'm holding out for a 64gb model. 32gb just isnt enough,
This won't affect me, since I don't game, my 16gb S4 already has enough OS/app storage, & I use my 128gb SD as static music storage. However, I agree that this option should be present for people who have different usage patterns than mine, especially since Sandisk just released super fast SD cards. Even better would be 64/128gb built-in to make the point moot for just about anyone.
Dwayne01 said:
I'm holding out for a 64gb model. 32gb just isnt enough,
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Well if you're in the states you won't be getting a 64GB version lol so I would suggest getting an SD card so you can start enjoying this beautiful phone
I too am disappointed with no 64gb option. Unreal. Freaking kids that complained got what they want. Now i personally will not buy it because I'm forced to use slow ass sd card. Stupid. So stupid. No one realizes that ufs is stupid faster then the best sd cards except for the diehards.
v2.2v said:
Well if you're in the states you won't be getting a 64GB version lol so I would suggest getting an SD card so you can start enjoying this beautiful phone
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I'm in the UK, so there is still hope
Samsung's explanation seems kinda dumb, they could have just added that option in Developer settings or something.
I wonder if this is something that could be enacted in a custom ROM.
I guess I understand the disappointment but 32 gig is plenty of room especially if ya pack all pictures and music off the side.
It will be yet a better reason to root and free up bloat of space is an issue??
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Samsung's explanation seems kinda dumb, they could have just added that option in Developer settings or something.
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No, it's quiet brillant from both LG and Samsung.
Phone are not made for people in XDA. My friends (some of who work in IT or other engineers) don't even know or care about 'Developer Settings'. My parents know nothing more than taking photos on defualt settings, listening music, messages etc., Do you think these people will have any idea about adoptable storage?
Samsung doesn't care about XDA people, and rightly so. You don't run a trillion dollar business based on whims of XDA folks. What's best for common man is what's their aim. And I applaud them for thinking beyond geek mentality. Same goes for LG.
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No, it's quiet brillant from both LG and Samsung.
Phone are not made for people in XDA. My friends (some of who work in IT or other engineers) don't even know or care about 'Developer Settings'. My parents know nothing more than taking photos on defualt settings, listening music, messages etc., Do you think these people will have any idea about adoptable storage?
Samsung doesn't care about XDA people, and rightly so. You don't run a trillion dollar business based on whims of XDA folks. What's best for common man is what's their aim. And I applaud them for thinking beyond geek mentality. Same goes for LG.
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I understand and kind of agree with this, but by this same reasoning, they should never have brought back the idea of expandable memory in the first place.
Virtually all of the people you refer to as not needing, caring about, or even necessarily understanding the idea of adoptable storage are not much more likely to need, care about, or understand the idea of portable storage either.
And yet, here we are with the SD card slot re-added to the 2016 models. Samsung must have been responding to a minority of their consumers complaining about loss of expandable storage or they would never have done this.
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I understand and kind of agree with this, but by this same reasoning, they should never have brought back the idea of expandable memory in the first place.
Virtually all of the people you refer to as not needing, caring about, or even necessarily understanding the idea of adoptable storage are not much more likely to need, care about, or understand the idea of portable storage either.
And yet, here we are with the SD card slot re-added to the 2016 models. Samsung must have been responding to a minority of their consumers complaining about loss of expandable storage or they would never have done this.
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The idea remains the same as with the GS5, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Expandable =/= adoptable.
Once a storage device is adopted, it becomes part of the system and is no longer removable. Sure you can physically remove it, but you'll be prompted to put it back while apps and services crash on your phone or tablet. It's adopted — taken in and loved by the system, and made part of the whole.
This means Adoptable storage is really only useful for two things:
An SD card placed in a phone or tablet and never to be removed
A USB storage device attached to your Android TV box, and never to be removed.
When you insert an SD card into the HTC One A9 (the only device I've been able to try it on because Google hates SD cards) you have the choice of using it as a Portable device or an Internal device if you go to reformat it. If you choose Portable, it acts like any other SD card and you can take it out and swap it between devices at your leisure.
If you choose Internal, things change. The device is formatted as a local, 128-bit AES encrypted EXT4 drive and mounted as part of the system. It's then set as the preferred storage, and you're prompted to move data over. Newly generated data is placed on the adopted storage by default.
If you try to remove it, things go haywire.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-adoptable-storage
dandroid13 said:
The idea remains the same as with the GS5, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Expandable =/= adoptable.
http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-adoptable-storage
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Previous post to mine said no adoptable storage on s7 because the great majority of buyers wouldn't understand or care about it.
I was pointing out (or trying to, at least) that if that was the reason that adoptable storage was not included in the s7's version of MM, Samsung probably wouldn't have resurrected the SD slot at all, since the same logic would apply (i.e. the vast majority of buyers for a huge, huge seller like a Samsung flagship probably won't bother using the SD slot even for its remaining use as portable storage).
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Previous post to mine said no adoptable storage on s7 because the great majority of buyers wouldn't understand or care about it.
I was pointing out (or trying to, at least) that if that was the reason that adoptable storage was not included in the s7's version of MM, Samsung probably wouldn't have resurrected the SD slot at all, since the same logic would apply (vast majority of buyers for a huge, huge seller like a Samsung flagship won't bother using the SD slot even for its remaining use as portable storage).
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Well, without adoptable you can put it in and forget, no need to care about formatting and losing your data. It would create more confusion.
Adoptable Storage is fine for $100 phones sold in emerging markets because their internals are slow performance wise. For a flagship all its storage will perform at the lowest common denominator which is the speed capabilities of the external SD card. LG and Samsung's choice makes sense. Use the slower less reliable storage for big ass video, RAW, and FLAC files and the faster storage for everything else. Their approach also lets media be shared via the external SD being removable which is impossible with Adoptable Storage. Just because Google puts something out doesn't make it good. As for performance, I can't remember any long threads saying using external storage to play files was ever a problem performance wise.
And for those with the bucks your worries about slow external storage can be solved...
https://www.sandisk.com/about/media...-card-featuring-worlds-fastest-transfer-speed