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Just installed JuiceDefender and I am now getting ALOT better battery life. I also don't think signal effects it because I am in a low signal area. One underneath on the widget is time since last unplugged, and you can see in notifications area the %'age of battery. Have been playing music, browsing internet ect, just using it moderately.
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Best record so far before getting down to 10% battery life is 25 hrs 48 minutes.
Sheeeiit. I'm lucky to get a full 12 hours on a single charge. So far. Only been through three full battery cycles so far.
2 days without problems.
Surfing, calling, WiFi, playing games, camera.
With really heavy usage like massive calling and browsing, it's was drained in one day.
Not long ago, first day low usage (FM radio, a bit od camera usage, couple of calls), lasted three days with 20% left.
nahhh ... i guess u r using a Mugen Power 3200mAh extended battery
otherwise impossible ..
wat firmware, rom, lagfix , progs are u using that gets u near to the end of the second day??
The biggest battery killer is 3G. Turn it off when you don't need it and you'll get quite nice battery life boost even without installing annoyances like Juice Defender. With 3G, my battery lasts hardly a day of light usage. On 2G, I can get two, maybe three days of light usage. Most of the time I don't need the 3G speed anyway, 2G is fast enough for a lot of things.
You might also try deleting battery stats and/or leaving the phone to turn itself off and then letting it charge until it tells you it's fully charged (you may turn it on after you've connected it to the charger, but not before that!). That way you'll calibrate the battery meter to your battery capacity properly, so it won't lie to you.
Oh yeah, and contrary to battery theory and logic, your battery WILL improve quite a bit after a week or two. Three cycles is not enough. Just be patient, give it time.
how do you switch from 3G to 2G? noob here.
Settings, Wireless, Mobile networks, Network mode - GSM only is 2G only. WCDMA is 3G.
Sic_lusifer said:
nahhh ... i guess u r using a Mugen Power 3200mAh extended battery
otherwise impossible ..
wat firmware, rom, lagfix , progs are u using that gets u near to the end of the second day??
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Stock battery, G7.
You can see in my signature which ROM I am using, it's stock JG5 with no lagfix.
First couple of days since I bought it, I was very disappointed about battery life (previous HTC Touch HD lasted 2-3 days).
I came so far that I set wallpaper to black and even then it didn't last much more than one day. After some time battery life extended and it became quite better, even with Nexus live wallpaper.
3G is OFF in my case, I am mostly on WiFi when I need connection, but GPRS / EDGE are always ON.
I use 3g and battery is ok unless I play games.easily last 2 or 3 days on standby with a few short call s
1h Or 2 With games lol
I have quite bad 3G reception at home, living out of town.
At work it's ok, but I rarely need 3G so there's no problem.
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The biggest battery killer is 3G. Turn it off when you don't need it and you'll get quite nice battery life boost even without installing annoyances like Juice Defender. With 3G, my battery lasts hardly a day of light usage. On 2G, I can get two, maybe three days of light usage. Most of the time I don't need the 3G speed anyway, 2G is fast enough for a lot of things.
You might also try deleting battery stats and/or leaving the phone to turn itself off and then letting it charge until it tells you it's fully charged (you may turn it on after you've connected it to the charger, but not before that!). That way you'll calibrate the battery meter to your battery capacity properly, so it won't lie to you.
Oh yeah, and contrary to battery theory and logic, your battery WILL improve quite a bit after a week or two. Three cycles is not enough. Just be patient, give it time.
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Part of this depends on how your carrier acts. If I turn off 3G it means I can't use data, I can't sync etc. Sync & applications launching and background data is a bigger battery drain...multiples higher than 3G in my guess. EDITAccording to GSM arena, my 2G/3G talk time was way off, but I think their data is old. I'll remove it for now and replace it with "Up to 750 h (2G) / Up to 576 h (3G)"...it's not sooo much the network as what is going on when you might be connected to that network.
edit 2 GSM arena seems to have the most recent info, I thought they were approximating this from their test units.
Just fyi for those unaware.... Bell is a 3G only network, nationwide. You can't disable 3g on Bell and still have data.
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I'm also using Juicedeffender and my battery live improved a lot. Now I can run the phone 24-30h without charging.
I am posting for a friend that has a SNS. The couple of days he has been draining the battery in about 6 hrs. I looked at the battery usage and it said that the display was at 60% and the graph shows a constant fail of power. I checked and he has the screen set to auto brightness and the screen times out at one minute. The only other thing that I cna think of is that he has poor cell coverage but we are using wifi in that location which his phone is connected to. I understand that poor cell coverage causes power drains but with the major of his data going through the wifi one would think that the cell power drain would be minuscule. Thanks in advance.
It depends on how weak. Data is not going to route over the cellular network, but it will try to maintain a connection for things like calls. Thus the phone will attempt to maintain a connection to the tower unless airplane mode is enabled or the cellular radio is otherwise disabled.
If the signal is really weak then the gain is going to be automatically adjusted to try to boost the signal - this is going to cause an increase in power used, sometimes substantially. If you spend most of the day in this situation then you don't have many options currently if you want to receive calls on the phone (you could look at a SIP solution).
If you don't care about receiving calls just turn on airplane mode and then toggle wifi on.
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I am posting for a friend that has a SNS. The couple of days he has been draining the battery in about 6 hrs. I looked at the battery usage and it said that the display was at 60% and the graph shows a constant fail of power. I checked and he has the screen set to auto brightness and the screen times out at one minute. The only other thing that I cna think of is that he has poor cell coverage but we are using wifi in that location which his phone is connected to. I understand that poor cell coverage causes power drains but with the major of his data going through the wifi one would think that the cell power drain would be minuscule. Thanks in advance.
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You need to provide screen on time and awake time. If he just got the phone and is using it a lot.... well then six hours is not bad for an android phone.
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You need to provide screen on time and awake time. If he just got the phone and is using it a lot.... well then six hours is not bad for an android phone.
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Not really. Maybe 6 hours continuous use, something like 3 hours display at 20-50% and 3 hours talk time; that would be normal. But 6 hours low-medium use points out that something is indeed wrong.
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Not really. Maybe 6 hours continuous use, something like 3 hours display at 20-50% and 3 hours talk time; that would be normal. But 6 hours low-medium use points out that something is indeed wrong.
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But like I said we don't know if it was normal or heavy use without screen on time and awake time.
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I am posting for a friend that has a SNS. The couple of days he has been draining the battery in about 6 hrs. I looked at the battery usage and it said that the display was at 60% and the graph shows a constant fail of power.
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60% display means the phone was on and actively used for over 3 hours. That's a fair bit but isn't too much really, but it depends on what else is running durng that time. As mentioned, awake time is also important because it means the phone is actively working at something even though the screen is off. He may have a rogue app that he installed sucking power. Or simply leaving the web browser on a webpage with a regular refresh cycle will cause the browser to continue to run in the background keeping the phone awake while the screen is off. I've gotten in the habit of going back to the google home page when I'm done browsing to make sure it's on a "dead" page.
Anywho, more details are needed to figure it out. Just saying it's only using 60% display isn't enough to find out why the phone only lasts 6 hours. Mine lasts between 24-48 hours depending on usage from heavy to moderate. With light usage I figure the battery would last 3-4 days, but I'm not that light of a user and I generally top up every night anyway as it's better to top up a Li-Ion battery than let it run down all the time.
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Set the Phone to GSM Auto (PRL)
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My Nexus S on Rogers was already on that setting out of the box. I'm curious, what does that do?
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60% display means the phone was on and actively used for over 3 hours.
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Huh???
When it says "What's been using the battery" and it says "Display........ 60%"
that just means that the display is responsible of 60% of the battery drain that has occurred since last boot.
For example, if you were at 100%, then turned your phone on for 5 minutes and scrolled back and forth on homescreens, lets say your batter went down to 95%. Well, if 2.5% of that 5% loss is from display, and 2.5% is from Android System, then when you check the battery screen it's going to say "What's been using the batter?"....... Display - 50%; Android system - 50%.
If you did the same thing for 4 hours, and the battery drained down to 20%, you might still see...... Display 50%, Android system - 50%.
In other words, the % has nothing to do with how long the phone has been on.
also if screen on time is 3 to 4 hours, yes the battery will be very low by then.
Thank you all for the advice. As I said this is my friends phone. i don't see him using it a lot we are both programmers so we use a computer for most everything, and we have both our phones on wifi because of the terrible cell signal. I will ask him to try and keep up with everything he does to see his use patterns to see how much he is really using the phone. I will post later on what apps are running and his amount of use. The main reason I am not sure is because this has just started happening with in the last week. We have been in the same location for 6 months and it has just now become a problem.
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My Nexus S on Rogers was already on that setting out of the box. I'm curious, what does that do?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675136
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675136
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Hmm...ok that kinda helps, but it doesn't really explain what's happening when it uses that setting. I know that PRL means preferred roaming list, and GSM Auto means it selects automatically, but how it selects and why it uses less battery is what I want to know.
I always wondered why some SGS3 users seemed to have great battery life and others didn't then I found out why for myself. I had my S3 for maybe 5 days then managed to crack the screen from a short fall (the screen is really too delicate) so had it replaced through my insurance. I returned the broken device but kept the accessories including the battery of which I now have two...yeah! The battery from the replacement device always drained entirely too much on standby time and gave me roughly 12 hours on moderate use. The original battery routinely gave me 17+ hours on moderate and had exceptional standby time. I subsequently returned to using my original battery and enjoying great battery life on my replacement phone.
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I always wondered why some SGS3 users seemed to have great battery life and others didn't then I found out why for myself. I had my S3 for maybe 5 days then managed to crack the screen from a short fall (the screen is really too delicate) so had it replaced through my insurance. I returned the broken device but kept the accessories including the battery of which I now have two...yeah! The battery from the replacement device always drained entirely too much on standby time and gave me roughly 12 hours on moderate use. The original battery routinely gave me 17+ hours on moderate and had exceptional standby time. I subsequently returned to using my original battery and enjoying great battery life on my replacement phone.
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ya i'm with you there cause a lot of people complain about battery life but mine seems to be great yes i can drop my phone from 80-60% in 2 to 3 hours but thats extremely heavy use where if i don't use my phone at all i find i will go through about 20% of the battery for the full day and that is with light use as well
Mainly due to signal if your in an area where your signal is bad, your phone constantly polling for signal if you use WiFi the whole time then yes you would get long battery life. That's why I don't trust any screen shot in "post your battery life" with WiFi signal. I use my phone as it comes with my plan, I don't constantly seek out WiFi spot to hook up to. It's dangerous for security reason and defeat the whole purpose of owning smart phone with data plan. If you can't afford a data plan than don't get a smart phone.
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I can't figure out the battery on this thing.
Some days I get excellent battery. Some days it will drain on standby. I unplugged it last night at 100%. I woke up this morning and it's completely dead.
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Oh well. Then posting battery life is irrelevant.
That's not necessarily true I use Wi-Fi a lot and I have 10gbs of data I only do this at home mind you cause my internet speed is a lot faster but still
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So since my battery life sucks, i should ask samsung for a replacement untill i am satisfied with battery life?
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Here are my screen shots. This is with wap.cingular apn, cpu sleeper, rooted stock rom, juice defender ultimate, battery fully charged and discharged more than 10 times, 4g on the entire screen on time, settings optimized, gestures off, battery saving mode off, gps on, web browsing most of the time, 2 push mail accounts, 1 mail syncs every hour, brightness at 35-40%, and all bloatware disabled, anything else, just ask me. Anyone with knowledge on this please let me know if this is acceptable, or ill go get a replacement unit tomorrow. This is an ATT unit.
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That's not necessarily true I use Wi-Fi a lot and I have 10gbs of data I only do this at home mind you cause my internet speed is a lot faster but still
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thats understandable but some people go out constantly looking for a place with wifi so they can get online.
Ya I see your point and I agree if you can't afford a data plan then don't get a smart phone is not worth it even 512mb plan is okay if you know how much use you are getting out of the
you don't need to buy a new phone just try and get a different battery as much as a pain in the ass as that may seem but usually that's the cause of the problem not the phone itself
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Juice defender kills batteries more than it helps I strongly recommend you stop using it. Battery saving maps don't typically work because it uses a lot of energy to re enable 3g/4g/lte and to turn them off. I disable everything I don't use. Have Bluetooth in everyday all day, GPS, and sync. I have about 60 apps.
Today I'm at 62% with 1 hour 10 mins of screen time. 8tracks for 30 minutes. And about a half hiur of calls. Not bad battery life IMO. I browse tapatalk a lot on various forums.
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agreed, ever since ics i've stopped using battery apps
I'm ordering a new battery and hoping it's going to be the fix...
Ya if I'm not using my data I turn it off but I'm at 54% and I've been on the net a lot and Wi-Fi tethered for 2 hours.... I love this phone
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My phone is stock. GPS, gesters and location are enabled. 4g LTE blazing... I can push this thing 24 hours. My 2 exchange accounts are push from [email protected] to 8P .. I have 5 google accounts on push as well
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So would the solution be going back to att and asking for a new battery? I've had the phone for about 3-4 days so im still under that 30 day warranty thing.
I have 2 batteries and 1 does seem to last longer than the other. Ima test this a few more days.
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So would the solution be going back to att and asking for a new battery? I've had the phone for about 3-4 days so im still under that 30 day warranty thing.
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Shouldn't matter about 30 day warranty, manufacturer warranty SHOULD get u a new battery beyond those 30 days. Anyone else had any luck exchange battery this way?? Also once exchanged was the battery better??
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Proof of battery life
Approximately 30 mins of call time and 2 hours of talk time... 44 hours later my phone was about ready to die! Clearly this was light to moderate use but this gives me great hope that I should be able to last more than the 12 hours I was getting on my other battery with moderate usage. I credit the longevity to the use of CPU tuner, Juice Defender, the build in power saving mode (everything checked except CPU), and applying the cell standby tweak (though its utility is debatable).
Just switched from my 2 yrs old iPhone 4 to this latest nexus 4. I noticed the standby mode is drain the battery much more significant than my old iPhone 4..
14% drop in less than 2hrs off the plug and only about 22 main of screen time. Is this normal? GPS off, WiFi off since I left my house, just a few minutes after unplug from the main.
Is this normal?
No. That does not seem normal. It may be a service running in the background not allowing the phone to sleep properly. You should be able to use the battery usage display to try track down what it is
Good luck
Rellikzephyr
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That is actually normal. Use deep sleep battery saver or turn mobile data off when not using your phone. It empties my battery really quick too.
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it depends. some days i am able to get 65% after 16 hours of little usage everything still turned on and some days the battery loses charge very quickly in standby if i am in an area going in and out of reception as it struggles to get bars. just check the battery stats and if maps is using a lot of battery then i would recommend turning off location reporting. also, you can try juicedefender to automatically turn off connectivity when the screen is off but it can be kind of annoying but it works well
Keep in mind, the display area of the Nexus 4 is 72.37% larger than an iPhone 4.
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it depends. some days i am able to get 65% after 16 hours of little usage everything still turned on and some days the battery loses charge very quickly in standby if i am in an area going in and out of reception as it struggles to get bars. just check the battery stats and if maps is using a lot of battery then i would recommend turning off location reporting. also, you can try juicedefender to automatically turn off connectivity when the screen is off but it can be kind of annoying but it works well
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Um... that's a bit annoying. I have already turned off GPS (location service). I would expect this late 2012 phone to be at least at par with my 2+ years old iPhone 4 in terms of battery. But now, the 2 year plus Crapple phone seems to be winning the race.
Really love all of the Nexus 4, just that the battery life is putting me a bit off... ;-(
It's a manufacturer's defect with some Nexus 4s that prevents the OS from going into deep sleep mode. I know this because I've had 12 separate Nexus 4s in my possession now. A good unit will remain at 100% for 3+ hours of nothing but deep sleep with the exception of turning on the screen a few times to check battery percentage. A bad unit will drain 20+% in the same time.
The good news is I hear a fix is on its way from Google.
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Um... that's a bit annoying. I have already turned off GPS (location service). I would expect this late 2012 phone to be at least at par with my 2+ years old iPhone 4 in terms of battery. But now, the 2 year plus Crapple phone seems to be winning the race.
Really love all of the Nexus 4, just that the battery life is putting me a bit off... ;-(
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This looks pretty normal.
At best on mobile data you can expect about 10% battery drain per 25-30min of screen on time.
With WiFi, 35-40min of screen on time per 10% battery.
That's been my experience at least.
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It's a manufacturer's defect with some Nexus 4s that prevents the OS from going into deep sleep mode. I know this because I've had 12 separate Nexus 4s in my possession now. A good unit will remain at 100% for 3+ hours of nothing but deep sleep with the exception of turning on the screen a few times to check battery percentage. A bad unit will drain 20+% in the same time.
The good news is I hear a fix is on its way from Google.
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Do you mean that Google is putting together a software fix?? that mean it's a software glitch? but why would you have different battery drainage experience if all those hardware are running same software?
But if it is hardware defect of manufacturer, how can a Google fix it with an update?
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Just switched from my 2 yrs old iPhone 4 to this latest nexus 4. I noticed the standby mode is drain the battery much more significant than my old iPhone 4..
14% drop in less than 2hrs off the plug and only about 22 main of screen time. Is this normal? GPS off, WiFi off since I left my house, just a few minutes after unplug from the main.
Is this normal?
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OP, your battery drain is normal unfortunately. This phone doesn't do well when the screen is on, while on 3G. Most people can get 3-4 hours of screen on time at best on 3G. You're at 86% after 23 minutes, which equates to about 2.74 hours of screen on time. Unfortunately that's probably pretty accurate. Especially if your brightness is higher than 10%. My Galaxy Nexus used to do a little bit better, and reportedly the S3 does a lot better on 3G.
Not H or 3G data but, impressive nevertheless. Root & unlock your phone, flash rasbean (rom) & matr1x (kernel) and enjoy the benefits.
Also, put phone on 2g if you don't surf the web. Much easier on the battery.
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It's a manufacturer's defect with some Nexus 4s that prevents the OS from going into deep sleep mode. I know this because I've had 12 separate Nexus 4s in my possession now. A good unit will remain at 100% for 3+ hours of nothing but deep sleep with the exception of turning on the screen a few times to check battery percentage. A bad unit will drain 20+% in the same time.
The good news is I hear a fix is on its way from Google.
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This might be the dumbest thing I have read on these forums.
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This might be the dumbest thing I have read on these forums.
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::thumbsup::
The fix part is mere hearsay but here's to hoping for the folk stuck with this terrible flaw.
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Not H or 3G data but, impressive nevertheless. Root & unlock your phone, flash rasbean (rom) & matr1x (kernel) and enjoy the benefits.
Also, put phone on 2g if you don't surf the web. Much easier on the battery.
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Have you tried franco kernel? Is Matr1X better than that?
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Have you tried franco kernel? Is Matr1X better than that?
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No, not yet. Will do soon though. Matr1x is insane though, give it a spin!
I've had this phone for around week (off craigslist so it's been broken in) and I can't seem to get any sort of good battery life from this device. I mean yeah it's ok, max I've gotten is 2.5 hours sot with 10-12 hr standby.
This screen is from today so far. I'm already down to 40% and not even at 2 hrs sot yet. What's going on? I've tried Franco's kernel, fauxs kernel, and now I'm on matr1x kernel. (all with undervolting) I've tried carbon, stock, and now I'm on rasenjb.
I don't think I'll ever get to these 5 and 6 hour sot times with a day and a half of standby everyone is getting.. I bought this device because of how good the battery life I saw everyone was getting and it's been a big disappointment so far. I've tried almost everything and that's why I made this thread. Does anyone have any suggestions?
That's because everyone liked to install custom kernels, underclock, never use their phone like a normal phone and then claim 5 hours SOT which is total BS.
Expect 10-12 hours with 3 hours SOT, that's normal. I've gotten way better than that but only when connected to Wifi and almost no actual phone calls. Anytime you're on the cellular network expect 10-12 hours tops
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That's because everyone liked to install custom kernels, underclock, never use their phone like a normal phone and then claim 5 hours SOT which is total BS.
Expect 10-12 hours with 3 hours SOT, that's normal. I've gotten way better than that but only when connected to Wifi and almost no actual phone calls. Anytime you're on the cellular network expect 10-12 hours tops
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I've seen a lot of screen shots with 4hrs + though. I guess it's only achievable on WiFi. I'm on HSPA+ for 8 hours of the day and then I come home and there's WiFi. So I'm guessing data is draining my battery throughout the day like a hog. Maybe I'll try out that screen off 2G mod that I saw. Thanks for your input!
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6 hours+ sot easy....
google now off
low brightness
nfc etc off (go through all settings and turn all unecessary crap off)
double check settings/google/accountname.gmail .. make sure music sync is off/unticked
use wifi only or 2g if you must (set 2g only anyway even when on wifi, stops the phone switching towers all the time)
use custom kernel and undervolt (optional) ..most come standard with a bit of undevolt already
don't have lots of apps syncing all the time.. facebook ect
use aosp browser or similar and not chrome
don't use live wallpapers
don't play heavy games , use mostly for messaging and browsing
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6 hours+ sot easy....
google now off
low brightness
nfc etc off (go through all settings and turn all unecessary crap off)
double check settings/google/accountname.gmail .. make sure music sync is off/unticked
use wifi only or 2g if you must (set 2g only anyway even when on wifi, stops the phone switching towers all the time)
use custom kernel and undervolt (optional) ..most come standard with a bit of undevolt already
don't have lots of apps syncing all the time.. facebook ect
use aosp browser or similar and not chrome
don't use live wallpapers
don't play heavy games , use mostly for messaging and browsing
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Might as well buy a Nokia 1611 then
Might have to see how PA is on battery life..
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That's because everyone liked to install custom kernels, underclock, never use their phone like a normal phone and then claim 5 hours SOT which is total BS.
Expect 10-12 hours with 3 hours SOT, that's normal. I've gotten way better than that but only when connected to Wifi and almost no actual phone calls. Anytime you're on the cellular network expect 10-12 hours tops
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Don't be hating because you are in a poor signal area. I get 6hrs sot on wifi and at least 4hrs on hspa+. If you are in an area that is a weaker signal, like 3g and edge with only one bar, sot will be less. I am stock rooted, including kernel. If a person doesn't use the phone the battery will last a long time, but the sot will also be low. For example, 24hrs of battery life with only one hour of sot pretty much means the phone was just laying there and barely used. On the other hand, 10hrs of battery life with 5hrs of screen time means the phone was used much and faired good. Apart from sot, cell signal is the biggest battery drainer. When I go to my sis-in-laws, which is a very weak area, my battery steadily drains with my phone just in my pocket. *edit* I should also note, when at home on wifi, I'm also on my Microcell, so I always have a strong signal.
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I usually get between 2.5 and 3.5 hours screen on time. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. You can use better battery stats to diagnose and try to kill unnecessary wakelocks. And yes you can under clock and sacrifice functionality, but rest assured 5-6 hours sot is not typical, even if some people can achieve it on a regular basis.
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Don't be hating because you are in a poor signal area. I get 6hrs sot on wifi and at least 4hrs on hspa+. If you are in an area that is a weaker signal, like 3g and edge with only one bar, sot will be less. I am stock rooted, including kernel. If a person doesn't use the phone the battery will last a long time, but the sot will also be low. For example, 24hrs of battery life with only one hour of sot pretty much means the phone was just laying there and barely used. On the other hand, 10hrs of battery life with 5hrs of screen time means the phone was used much and faired good. Apart from sot, cell signal is the biggest battery drainer. When I go to my sis-in-laws, which is a very weak area, my battery steadily drains with my phone just in my pocket. *edit* I should also note, when at home on wifi, I'm also on my Microcell, so I always have a strong signal.
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Nobody's hating. But somebody IS lying.
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Nobody's hating. But somebody IS lying.
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Are you referring to me? Lying about what? You don't think I can get 6hrs sot on wifi and my microcell. You don't think I can get 4hrs sot on mobile data cellular signal? Those figures are fairly common and I have posted screen shots before. Or maybe you don't believe that a poor signal will drain battery more? Do some research. http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=2817363
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Signal
Yeah! Its true. Poor signal make your phone drain more battery.
If in your carrier the 2G signal is better than 3G. Set the phone to use only 2G network. (GSM)
Put this in the phone app: *#*#4636#*#* and see the difference.
fernandezhjr said:
Are you referring to me? Lying about what? You don't think I can get 6hrs sot on wifi and my microcell. You don't think I can get 4hrs sot on mobile data cellular signal? Those figures are fairly common and I have posted screen shots before. Or maybe you don't believe that a poor signal will drain battery more? Do some research. http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=2817363
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You're not talking about real world usage. Nobody uses their phone like that. It's people like you that come into threads where regular users with genuine concerns and questions get ridiculed by some guy who has his "phone" set up like some friggin science project talking about 5-6 hours SOT.
Google Search: Nexus 4 poor battery life
About 12,600,000 results (0.19 seconds)
Google Search: Galaxy S3 poor battery life
About 6,310,000 results(0.24 seconds)
^that's half of the results and the S3 has been out way longer with millions more users/owners
Obviously the Nexus 4 has a sub-par battery for today's standards. Case closed.
I answered his question with real life facts, and you're in here spinning fairy tales feeding a delusion that he can go about using his phone like a normal person and get 5-6 hours SOT.
So yeah, you're lying IMO.
Having a poor signal doesn't cut SOT by 4 hours.
Yes, I forget, I'm not using my phone in the real world when I'm working on my science project. Lol. Sorry buddy, but I did unlock my bootloader and root in order to transfer app data from my previous phone, but I am running the stock rom, even odexed version, and stock kernel. I have syncing, nfc, wifi, and gps always enabled. The only thing I don't keep on is Google Now because I don't use it. If you bothered to look closely at the screen shots, you would see the constant strong signal due to my Microcell. When on a weaker cellular signal, it cuts into my sot. I use a Microcell because without it, I get a really crummy signal, so I know firsthand what battery drain is like. And as I stated, on cellular only, I get 4-5hrs screen time, worse if I'm in a really poor location. Idk where you get this 4hr difference from.
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I usually get around 3.5 - 4 on Franco m2 and carbon Rom browsing the internet on WiFi. No other weird settings, all sync on. It's closer to about 3 doing the same on mobile data. Playing games will toast my battery. I'm still plenty satisfied with my battery life.
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username8611 said:
I usually get around 3.5 - 4 on Franco m2 and carbon Rom browsing the internet on WiFi. No other weird settings, all sync on. It's closer to about 3 doing the same on mobile data. Playing games will toast my battery. I'm still plenty satisfied with my battery life.
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Also, watch your background apps, Facebook and Google maps have caused battery drain for some people.
username8611 said:
I usually get around 3.5 - 4 on Franco m2 and carbon Rom browsing the internet on WiFi. No other weird settings, all sync on. It's closer to about 3 doing the same on mobile data. Playing games will toast my battery. I'm still plenty satisfied with my battery life.
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Also, watch your background apps, Facebook and Google maps have caused battery drain for some people.
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I uninstalled facebook. Also Google maps, Google search and most of the other common battery drainers are on greenify. I've come to the conclusion that my mobile data radio is the biggest drainer. Would upgrading my radio offer a more efficient battery life? (I've never upgraded a radio on any of my devices before)
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I uninstalled facebook. Also Google maps, Google search and most of the other common battery drainers are on greenify. I've come to the conclusion that my mobile data radio is the biggest drainer. Would upgrading my radio offer a more efficient battery life? (I've never upgraded a radio on any of my devices before)
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It probably is low signal strength killing your battery, I should have thrown in the fact that 90% of the time I have full signal. Flashing a radio is no biggie, just dont be stupid about it and kill power halfway through the flash. No need to wipe anything either. I think i saw some recovery flashable ones around here, but i like to use fastboot whenever possible. .48 is the latest official radio, with .54 coming from an international white n4. I'm on .48 and holding off until .54 becomes official before deciding to test it out, since .48 is golden for me. Test all of them, older doesnt mean worse and some people have better luck with the older radios.
It may not be relevant to your experience, but I was disappointed initially in N4's battery life too. Even after dialing down most automatic syncing, being very conservative with screen brightness, and other standard measures.
I installed wake lock detector. In my case, Dropbox was at the top of the list, with an inordinate # of system wake ups.
Turned out a copy of Dropbox on another machine on the same network was, with the 'LAN Sync' option enabled by default, sending out gobs of wake-on-lan packets and was waking up the N4 very often; something that would happen even without Dropbox on the N4, presumably.
Disabling Dropbox's LAN sync seemed to bump my battery life ~20-30%.
Google told me 10 - 12 hours continuous useage. I haven't had anything like that from mine.
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It probably is low signal strength killing your battery, I should have thrown in the fact that 90% of the time I have full signal. Flashing a radio is no biggie, just dont be stupid about it and kill power halfway through the flash. No need to wipe anything either. I think i saw some recovery flashable ones around here, but i like to use fastboot whenever possible. .48 is the latest official radio, with .54 coming from an international white n4. I'm on .48 and holding off until .54 becomes official before deciding to test it out, since .48 is golden for me. Test all of them, older doesnt mean worse and some people have better luck with the older radios.
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Thanks for the info! How do I check which radio version I have?
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Why are you fairies arguing?
I got my n4 yesterday and battery seems decent. I was listening to spotify while driving and spent about 1.5 hours in the gym listening to it as well. Also throughout the day was messaging, Facebook, twitter etc. Not heavily, but every once in a while. I'm satisfied.
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