Stock 4.3 without gapps? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys was just wondering if theres any images of the stock 4.3 rom without gapps. I only use play store everything else like G+, Hangouts, Google Books, Music, Magazines, Chrome, Keep, Maps etc i dont use so was wondering if theres a stock image about without the gapps to save me uninstalling the apps each time. If not is it best just to remove them from system/apps or just use Titanium and uninstall, cheers.

No, and you're actually better off freezing those apps rather than uninstalling. The end result of both is exactly the same, but you at least have the option of defrosting them later down the road.

Ah thanks and yea its probs for the best could always unfreeze if i run into problems. Is disabling them the same as freezing them with titanium?.

Seanus86 said:
Ah thanks and yea its probs for the best could always unfreeze if i run into problems. Is disabling them the same as freezing them with titanium?.
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For all practical intents and purposes, yes. I've personally never had problems flat out uninstalling the apps, but if you ever want to take an OTA, it'll cause a realm of hurt.

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[Q] Restore bundled apps?

So naturally one of the first things I did with my new G2 was to root it, since I have a few favorite apps that require root.
Then I did something stupid: I told Titanium Backup to "Integrate updates of system apps into ROM" - hey, it always worked great with my DesireHD running JellyTime. Well, didn't work so well in this case, leading to many of the "bundled" apps simply disappearing, and others (particularly Google apps) crashing.
Most of the Google apps I fixed by simply uninstalling them using TiBkup, then reinstalling from Play... but one it particular I really liked, that I can't find anywhere else, was the bundled "Photo Album" app - like Gallery, but better. Still trying to figure out a way to get this back, short of re-flashing the stock ROM.
I tried doing a full backup of ALL apps in TiBkup, then uninstalling the Photo Album from there (which SAID it worked), then restoring it from backup... but no go. And of course, this isn't an app that's available in Play.
Any other suggestion (other than re-flashing) to get this and others back to where they were? Is there a list of all the bundled apps that came with this phone?
What about reflashing gapps?
GApps isn't really the problem - SOME of the Google apps had issues, but those I could uninstall and then reinstall from the Play Store. It's the Photo Albums app that I'd really like back, and it doesn't appear to be on the Play Store at all. What I need is another G2 that I can export an .apk of the missing apps (or at least of the ones I liked)...
Soundy106 said:
GApps isn't really the problem - SOME of the Google apps had issues, but those I could uninstall and then reinstall from the Play Store. It's the Photo Albums app that I'd really like back, and it doesn't appear to be on the Play Store at all. What I need is another G2 that I can export an .apk of the missing apps (or at least of the ones I liked)...
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Here is a link the LG apps themselves from the G2. You can download, unzip and install the apks you want.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx8G-Ji7ejK9T1hvcVJPOFNnZTg/edit
Jimi Mack said:
Here is a link the LG apps themselves from the G2. You can download, unzip and install the apks you want.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx8G-Ji7ejK9T1hvcVJPOFNnZTg/edit
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Awesome, exactly what I was looking for... unfortunately install fails on any of them I tried. Tried launching the APKs from both Root Browser and ES Browser, same thing. "Unknown sources" is checked...
Is there a log somewhere that might show me what's going on?
I guess worst case, I have to back everything up and re-flash the stock rom...
Are you running the stock rom or another rom?
Stock - only got the thing a couple weeks ago. I probably wouldn't really worry about it, but there were a couple of the bundled apps I really liked that I want to get back.
And honestly, I've looked at a couple of the other ROMs listed here and considered it, but unlike the bloated nonSense on my old HTC, I really like a lot of the stock LG functionality... and of course, I'm worried that some of the stock apps I like might not work on a custom ROM.

deleting unwanted stuf or bloatware?

hello!
i 'd like to know if there is a list of safe to remove or freeze apps or android services we don't need or don't harm the device.
Yes. Several threads. Use search button and don't post question here.
I use this trick. Install titanium backup and try freezing things. If you're like me, you use all of Google's apps, so really have no need for things like LG's web browser, email, file browser, etc. These are all safe to get rid of, but just to be safe, use the "freeze" button in titanium. If, after a while, everything seems to be OK, go ahead and delete the frozen stuff. This way you're not screwed if you accidentally get rid of something important
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Disable apps or delete them with any root manager ?

Is it better to just disable system apps or fully delete them ?
Robi959 said:
Is it better to just disable system apps or fully delete them ?
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There is ABSOLUTELY zero reason to touch any apps in /system, period. Ever. If you do, it will break OTAs, if you delete the wrong thing you'll have to reflash the ROM to recover, etc.
Settings-Apps->All, look for the ones you want to disable, do it there. If you can't disable them there, use pm disable com.app.name. If somehow you disable something critical, you can always factory reset to go back to normal.
If you touch /system, factory reset won't un-break what you did.
I use System app remover (ROOT) to delete system apps.
I always delete apps I dont use and want by deleting them from /system/app and /system/priv-app and I never had any problem or issue with it.
Also, currently, I use CloudyStock so I dont worry about OTA incompatibility.
More better is to disable or freeze unused apps. Why to delete? If you delete any essentially app from system your phone can be damaged.
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Yes i think same maybe is better just disable apps. They will not work and that is it. Maybe phone when we delete some app trying to find that app and just cause problems. With disable is more secure..
I always delete what I don't want from my phone rather than simply disabling the apps. Of course, I've been tinkering with my phones for years, so I know what I'm doing. I also don't take OTA updates, so ruining the ability to do so is not a concern for me.
Vlad Paul said:
More better is to disable or freeze unused apps. Why to delete? If you delete any essentially app from system your phone can be damaged.
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Why yes, deleting stuff like Chrome, Google+, Maps or any other app that can be downloaded from the Play Store will certainly damage the phone.
robogo1982 said:
Why yes, deleting stuff like Chrome, Google+, Maps or any other app that can be downloaded from the Play Store will certainly damage the phone.
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Chrome, Maps, Google + is not esentialy apps. Dont be ironic, try to be helpfull or keep thread clean
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Questions about removing Google apps

I'm planning to root my Huawei P8 Lite and remove all Google apps. I have some questions about this.
Since I will be using the stock ROM which was designed to be used with Google apps, what are the implications of removing them?
For example, there are some entries in settings that concern Google apps (keyboard, location, search, etc.). What will happen to those after I remove all Google apps?
I have never used stock ROM without Google apps so far, only CyanogenMod without Google apps on my old phone.
Also, what would be the best way to remove Google apps? I have have one way (olivier-m on GitHubGist, can't post a link), but it seems that this list is for ICS and JB. Is that list valid for Lollipop?
Thanks for help.
You need to root and get a root unistaller.
ward0 said:
You need to root and get a root unistaller.
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Yes, but how will that affect functionality of the phone?
If you don't want Google Apps, by an iPhone.
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bujamin said:
Yes, but how will that affect functionality of the phone?
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Obviously you will have to find a way to get your apps and updates. Further you should ensure that you have a different keyboard than the google one activated prior to deletion as well as a browser besides chrome etc.
Also make sure to always do a full backup before trying stuff like this. If it shouldn't work you can still ask us for further advice and reflash your backup.
PCSE said:
Obviously you will have to find a way to get your apps and updates. Further you should ensure that you have a different keyboard than the google one activated prior to deletion as well as a browser besides chrome etc.
Also make sure to always do a full backup before trying stuff like this. If it shouldn't work you can still ask us for further advice and reflash your backup.
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I already have all the alternative apps ready, I've been using F-Droid on my old phone for the last 2 years so that part is taken care of.
Thanks for the tip about the keyboard, I didn't know that. And of course, I will do a backup before trying anything.
headnotfound said:
If you don't want Google Apps, by an iPhone.
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Thank you, your contribution to this thread is invaluable.
bujamin said:
I already have all the alternative apps ready, I've been using F-Droid on my old phone for the last 2 years so that part is taken care of.
Thanks for the tip about the keyboard, I didn't know that. And of course, I will do a backup before trying anything.
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It'd be cool if you could keep us up to date on your experiences, since I'm personally interested in this matter.
Nothing bad would happen. I personally keep only Play Store and Google Play Services. I don't need other Google crap such as News Stand, Play Books, Play Music, Gmail, Drive, Youtube and especially Play Movies, Hangouts and Photos. I keep Play Store to buy apps basically and Play Services for in game achievements
PCSE said:
It'd be cool if you could keep us up to date on your experiences, since I'm personally interested in this matter.
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I will. My plan is to backup, root, uninstall Gapps and replace them with F-Droid + open source alternatives. I'm very busy though so it might take few days, just so you know.
Update: I gave up from removing Gapps for time being because I wasn't able to successfully root my phone. I will probably wait until the end of the year until there are more options available (rooting and ROMs). Until then, I disabled Gapps and I'm using alternatives from F-Droid.
mfbcool said:
Nothing bad would happen. I personally keep only Play Store and Google Play Services. I don't need other Google crap such as News Stand, Play Books, Play Music, Gmail, Drive, Youtube and especially Play Movies, Hangouts and Photos. I keep Play Store to buy apps basically and Play Services for in game achievements
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I hope you're right. Of course, I'll make a backup just in case.
I have finally rooted my P8lite and went on a quest of removing Google apps and other bloatware. I removed every app with Google in its name and soft bricked my phone. Luckily I managed to restore it and now I'm trying again, more carefully.
I will consult these lists:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487073
http://blog.burrowsapps.com/2014/03/what-android-apps-are-safe-to-remove.html
http://androidforums.com/threads/bo...-de-bloat-your-boost-mobile-galaxy-s3.778877/
However, I would like input from someone knowledgeable on this subject because these lists are either not completely up-to-date not specifically for Huawei.
bujamin said:
However, I would like input from someone knowledgeable on this subject because these lists are either not completely up-to-date not specifically for Huawei.
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I rooted my phone and removed a lot of (system) apps and bloatware. I didn't make a list of all the apps I removed, but I can advice you to install Link2SD app and use the "Freeze" function for apps that you're unsure if they can be deleted. If you freeze the app and there's no strange behavior, it's probably safe to remove...
Hi Please help me, my google play store does not want to download anything, i tried factory restart and clearing the cache and clearing the data, but still not luck.
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Stock ROM without Google?

Hi,
I'm looking for a stock ROM without any Google apps or services.
I want to test the phone without Google and see if it is usable.
Is there a script I can use to remove all Google files from the phone?
Thanks
halifage said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a stock ROM without any Google apps or services.
I want to test the phone without Google and see if it is usable.
Is there a script I can use to remove all Google files from the phone?
Thanks
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Are you aware of it? You can't use the same apps with the same behavior as before. It's not a big deal. messenger apps for example uses google play services for instant messaging. Many other apps are unreliable without play services.
But you need to root your stock rom and can freeze Google play services(only this one is enough for first testing). It's the main service/app that's needed for every other Google service/app/connection.
strongst said:
Are you aware of it? You can't use the same apps with the same behavior as before. It's not a big deal. messenger apps for example uses google play services for instant messaging. Many other apps are unreliable without play services.
But you need to root your stock rom and can freeze Google play services(only this one is enough for first testing). It's the main service/app that's needed for every other Google service/app/connection.
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vielen Dank
I am fully aware of the repercussions. I want to dive in and delete the files, not just freeze them.
I've used the terminal debloater as suggested by @rajatgupta1998 but it doesn't offer the option to delete lib, jar, xml and other files.
At least i don't get the black screen after deleting, which is better than all scripts i flashed so far.
You could try NanoDroid, but make a backup before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928
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You could try NanoDroid, but make a backup before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928
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vielen Dank,
But i'm not actually looking install microG or any other form of GApps.
I just want to delete the ones that come with the stock ROM to have a Google-free stock ROM.
It seems certain files (like Google Services Framework) cause the phone to be stuck at black screen during boot.
halifage said:
vielen Dank,
But i'm not actually looking install microG or any other form of GApps.
I just want to delete the ones that come with the stock ROM to have a Google-free stock ROM.
It seems certain files (like Google Services Framework) cause the phone to be stuck at black screen during boot.
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As I wrote before, you can do the following on stock rom: just freeze/delete Google play services app and you cut every Google communications. You can't execute play store, YouTube, drive, accounts or whatever Google app. You'll see no Google play services wakelock anymore. If framework files are there after that doesn't matter.
strongst said:
As I wrote before, you can do the following on stock rom: just freeze/delete Google play services app and you cut every Google communications. You can't execute play store, YouTube, drive, accounts or whatever Google app. You'll see no Google play services wakelock anymore. If framework files are there after that doesn't matter.
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Thanks.
Looks like my only option so far.
halifage said:
Thanks.
Looks like my only option so far.
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Just do this test and see if it's suitable for your purposes
strongst said:
Just do this test and see if it's suitable for your purposes
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Testing now.
@strongst It's actually kinda like having the best of both worlds. It turns out some apps that required the maps API still works, including Maps (from Google).
The added bonus is that is can switch play services on at will.
I just deleted Google apps that i don't use.
Phone has been working without any issues at all. I have very few apps (whatsapp, automateIt, etc). i use xperia keyboard, FOSS apps like new pipe (for youtube), Dnotes (for keep), yalp store (for playe store).
Battery life and SOT have almost doubled.

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