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[Q] Possible To Restore Apps, Without Titanium???

Hello everyone,
I'm not the type of person to ask for the answer and get the quick way out...I like to try and research, read and read more before asking for help.
Here is the problem:
Before I flashed my phone...I plugged in the usb and copied all folders and files on the SD card to a folder on my pc, just incase.
Then I followed the instruction to install a custom rom...I used Iced Glacier. I rebooted the phone and the Iced rom worked...after checking out the phone, to see what the Iced rom was all about, I realized I didnt use Ti to make a backup of all apps.
Here is the question:
Can I use the folders/files I copied to the pc, to add the apps back to the phone?
Thanks in advance for any help,
BK

Short answer is no...
If you had backup enabled with Google, your apps should auto install when you log into the market. Most of your data will be lost though...
Did you make a nandroid backup of your ROM? If you did, you could now backup your new install, restore your old system backup, use Titanium to backup everything from your old system backup, then switch back to your new install and use Titanium to restore everything...?
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First I want to thank you for taking out the time. I truly appreciate the help.
I read and re-read what you wrote...I kinda of understand but am not sure if the correct steps to take. When you get a chance, can you please try and explain further.
Thanks so much,
BK

What he is asking is did you make a backup of your stock rom before flashing ice-glacier? If so just go back into rom manager and restore your backup. After restoring, personally i prefer my backup root, because it backs up everything texts, bookmarks ect qnd it is one click for that stuff and one click for all your apps with their data instead of clicking once for each app. After doing your backup reflash I-G and redownload my backup root, run it and everything will be there

That's exactly what I meant...
Also, Titanium has a batch option in the menu, so you can one click backup and restore with Titanium also (you have to have the paid version for it to be effective, though)...
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thanks for the info...but have another question related to this.
I did make a backup before flashing...but here is the problems I'm trying to understand.
From what Im trying to gather about using custom roms, is that it does not install any bloatware.
So, if that is true and I use a app like backup root...will this just install every single app that was on the phone.
Im just trying to wrap my brain around this, sorry if it is very newbish
BK

fst2011 said:
From what Im trying to gather about using custom roms, is that it does not install any bloatware.
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Depends on your definition of "bloat". Every ROM contains a collection of system applications.
Keep in mind. Nandroid backups are standalone system images. Titanium Backup and MyBackup and all the other Android apps that do backups are individual application backups. They often can do bulk restores, but that is not always desired or necessary.
You will find you will want both types of backup: Nandroid, and application.

You can also selectively backup and restore apps, so you get to chose what stays, and what goes...
Play around with Titanium and My Backup, and see what they are capable of...
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copying data with Titanium Backup

Hi,
Is it possible to restore data and-or- applications with Titanium Backup?
I have made backups of my HTC Desire HD applications and would like to restore them on my Galaxy S II .
Thanks
Daniel

Danielfr said:
Hi,
Is it possible to restore data and-or- applications with Titanium Backup?
I have made backups of my HTC Desire HD applications and would like to restore them on my Galaxy S II .
Thanks
Daniel
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In theory it shouldn't be a problem although bear in mind that you will need to have root access and superuser before you can use Titanium on your SGS2

I have just backed up all my apps from my HTC Hero.
Currently downloading all my SMS with SMS Backup + but after that's done I'll be attempting to restore some apps. will let you know how it goes

Backup GS2

Hi guys,
I want to back up contacts, sms and apps with there data. Backup and restore be simple
Is there any solution to do this with out rooting?

I think you might need to root for a full backup of all your data. But if you want to backup only contacts and smses, there are apps for that. Alternatively you might be able to save into your SIM card.
Rooting allows greater access to system files so as to do a full backup, with nandroid or titanium.
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darylimjz said:
I think you might need to root for a full backup of all your data. But if you want to backup only contacts and smses, there are apps for that. Alternatively you might be able to save into your SIM card.
Rooting allows greater access to system files so as to do a full backup, with nandroid or titanium.
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Or just a simple backe up through kies, could you tell me more detail daryl the main different or example after root to had the full access since i didnt root yet.
Thanks
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sunny_ag said:
Hi guys,
I want to back up contacts, sms and apps with there data. Backup and restore be simple
Is there any solution to do this with out rooting?
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Rooting your phone is the best way to back up apps n data using any of these apps
1. My backup pro
2.titanium backup
For SMS backup use Backup n restore SMS app
For contact best thing to do is Google sync it
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Different Backup Methods

I was hoping to learn the differences between certain backup methods. The most common i saw is via recovery (in my case twrp), via titanium backup and another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
First, in terms of "backup coverage" how do they compare to one another? Secondly, which among the three would most put ur phone back the way it was before u wipe or factory reset it
I hope you could input your opinions on this and suggestions.
Thanks in advance!
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A backup through recovery is a called a nandroid. This backs up everything on your phone including your ROM, kernel, apps, settings, etc. This will allow you to restore back to the previous state of your phone after doing a full wipe.
Titanium backup only backs up your apps and app data. This is useful when you want to switch ROMs and restore your apps in the new ROM.
Usually when switching ROMs I first use titanium backup, then I create a nandroid backup, and finally I flash the ROM. If I like the ROM I use titanium to restore the apps that I previously backed up, and if I don't like the ROM I restore my nandroid
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Doing a backup with twrp, cwm or thru adb (nandroid backups) are basically image files of your phone at any given moment in time. If you restore one of these backups your restoring your phone to exactly how it was at that moment in time. Titanium backup and Helium backup just backup cached data at that particular moment in time. Using these apps will only restore the data you specified when you did the backup and nothing else. Say you borked an install of a ROM, Titanium backup would be of no use in getting your phone working again as it only has data and not a system image. You would need the images backed up by twrp to get the phone working again then you could use the titanium backups to restore any newer data saved if say you used an old twrp backup.

whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!

vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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With the pro version u can run a batch backup of all apps.
To do this open the app, press the menu button in the top tight corner, and select Batch.
Then choose Backup all user apps. From there you can select/deselect apps. When you are done choosing the apps that you would like to backup, click on the green check mark in the top right corner to start the backup.

vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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I stopped using Titanium and switched to Helium a while back and can't really remember how Ti works exactly. I do know you should never restore system apps data just user apps data so I don't even bother backing up systems apps. I think with Ti I would just do an initial backup of all user data and apps and then periodically do a backup of newer user data and apps, or something to that effect in the menu. I do like Helium better as its interface is better, never could figure out how to backup or restore sms, call logs and the dictionary using Ti. Helium is much more straight forward and simpler (not as many options) and it does backups on a set schedule to my box account. I'm sure you can do all that with Ti too it was just not a very clean app.

thanks again for the replies..
@ chromium96
i think it is the same as clicking the box with check icon beside the menu, it brings me to the page the same as where you are leading me to but in just one click. Though im not so sure if it is really the same one.
I did a backup now but made a user app + system data.
kzoodroid mentioned not to backup system. Should I really not backup the system? Im quite confused with the terminologies of TI coz it says backup "user apps". Does this only refer to the apps and not the settings or data in my phone? does the backup "system data" refer to the settings and other data on my phone? if I choose only backup "user apps", would this only backup the apps and nothing else?
@ kzoodroid
could you explain further why I should never backup systems apps?
Lastly, is Helium really better than TI? or it depends on user preference?
Thanks again!

there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom

stremax said:
there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom
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Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?

vinz_bangiz said:
Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?
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right man,
only back-up user apps and data, if you like you can also back-up call log and messages, I usually do this, so when I flash a new rom I usually restore apps +apps data, messages and call log via Tb

vinz_bangiz said:
another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
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I found the ADB backup doesn't work as well as the other methods. I found some apps didn't seem to get backed up, and at least one didn't work after restoring (though this could be because I used Titanium Backup to restore the app from the ADB backup file).

Omega v6 to V11, restore problem

Hi guys,
Today I updated my Note 3 from Omega V6 to V11, I got it wrong a couple times so had to full wipe twice or so and restart the process.
Beforehand I had done a titanium backup, cwm backup. I copied them onto my lappy, with the efs backup also.
Once I had Omega v11 installed I booted into cwm and tried to restore from my backup, this sent me into a bootloop so I started the process again. This time I tried restoring from titanium backup and it did a great job, but my picture gallery is missing alot of photos and photos I had in hide it pro are gone.
I tried restoring hide it pro and gallery in titanium backup as a single restore task/job and still didn't do the trick.
I'm guessing the reason why I go into a bootloop when I tried to restore from cwm is because my backup was from 4.3 and now I'm on 4.4.2?
Is that right?
The day before I actually went from v5 to v6 so maybe that's why my hide pro files are gone? because omega installed it again?
After I had installed v6 I deleted my v5 backup files and made new ones.
Unfortunately I didn't check my files after installing v6 and I deleted my old backups without thinking, so I'm not sure if they were there after a v6 install.
I know I should have done a manual backup, lesson learnt, I had alot of sentimental photos I was meant to share but hadn't gotten around to it yet..
Is there anyway I can get my files back? Or anyway I can restore from my cwm backup?
Thank you.

Go into titanium backup but mind that you will need the pro edition as long as i can remember,press menu key and see under special backup and restore
Extract from Nandroid Backup .
CLICK that and choose the backup you did using cwm and find your desire app
I hope this works for you . I hate it when VAULT or such apps loose your pics when you upgrade the app itself

fahadali2315 said:
Go into titanium backup but mind that you will need the pro edition as long as i can remember,press menu key and see under special backup and restore
Extract from Nandroid Backup .
CLICK that and choose the backup you did using cwm and find your desire app
I hope this works for you . I hate it when VAULT or such apps loose your pics when you upgrade the app itself
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Thank you very much, I will give this a go, fortunately I do have the pro version. Thank you again for your quick reply. :good:

michstarr said:
Thank you very much, I will give this a go, fortunately I do have the pro version. Thank you again for your quick reply. :good:
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No problem mate do lemme know how it goes
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fahadali2315 said:
No problem mate do lemme know how it goes
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Unfortunately that didn't work, I'm assuming the pictures were deleted from when I went from v5 to v6. Going to try and recover my deleted backups from my MacBook. Thank you again for you help, will report back if successful!

michstarr said:
Unfortunately that didn't work, I'm assuming the pictures were deleted from when I went from v5 to v6. Going to try and recover my deleted backups from my MacBook. Thank you again for you help, will report back if successful!
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You are welcome
But rather that saying thanks you can hit the thanks button cheers
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fahadali2315 said:
You are welcome
But rather that saying thanks you can hit the thanks button cheers
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Took me a while but I found the thanks button haha, I wasn't logged in..
Several data recovery apps later could not recover my previous backup, lesson learnt.
Thank you anyway, I appreciate you help. :highfive:

michstarr said:
Took me a while but I found the thanks button haha, I wasn't logged in..
Several data recovery apps later could not recover my previous backup, lesson learnt.
Thank you anyway, I appreciate you help. :highfive:
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not sure if this is the same problem that you have but it looks like my phone internal wipes each time I upgrade the Omega ROM where it takes out the internal.

Maybe teaching the 'sucking eggs' thing here but it isn't just a case of the apps are looking at internal memory instead of over on your extSDcard is it? Titanium and many other apps need to be told to save/restore to/from the extSDcard.- maybe it's all sitting there waiting for you to point the apps to the right place?

Journyman16 said:
Maybe teaching the 'sucking eggs' thing here but it isn't just a case of the apps are looking at internal memory instead of over on your extSDcard is it? Titanium and many other apps need to be told to save/restore to/from the extSDcard.- maybe it's all sitting there waiting for you to point the apps to the right place?
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Thank you for reply, I just checked and there was no titanium backup on my extSDcard, it was on the internal and that's where I copied it from to my mac Thanks anyway!

One more thing guys, I was just browsing through es file explorer and noticed my downloads folder is gone. Does titanium or cwm backup, backup folders? I just tried restoring "Downloads" in titanium backup and extracting from nandroid, and still no Downloads folder in my directory Just wondering maybe if the files are named something else?
Otherwise it was erased when I went from v5 to v6 and backed up the newly erased and clean v6 files, not realising my files are gone.
Thanks