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HTC One X and Galaxy 3 comparison thread

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25893455&postcount=10
"Advantages of the S3 over the One X (international version):
Better SoC, also quad core but the HK-MG technology means significantly battery saving Vs NVIDIAs solution
Better GPU
Better battery capacity
Battery removable
Micro SD slot with exFAT compatibility
Likely much better sound quality given Wolfson DAC (I have the One X now and it's sound is passable, not a patch on the S1 I used to own)
Better GPS with GLONASS
Much better video capture (stills quality still unknown, but GSMarena preview makes me tend to think the S3 will best the One X there)
It hardly boils down to design and TW Vs Sense (S3 loses on both counts, but since most here won't use the stock launcher regardless the second point counts for a lot less than it will for the general consumer)."

DocRambone said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25893455&postcount=10
"Advantages of the S3 over the One X (international version):
Better SoC, also quad core but the HK-MG technology means significantly battery saving Vs NVIDIAs solution
Better GPU
Better battery capacity
Battery removable
Micro SD slot with exFAT compatibility
Likely much better sound quality given Wolfson DAC (I have the One X now and it's sound is passable, not a patch on the S1 I used to own)
Better GPS with GLONASS
Much better video capture (stills quality still unknown, but GSMarena preview makes me tend to think the S3 will best the One X there)
It hardly boils down to design and TW Vs Sense (S3 loses on both counts, but since most here won't use the stock launcher regardless the second point counts for a lot less than it will for the general consumer)."
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Design and TW vs Sense are both subjective. Some will find the S3 design and TW more to their liking

HOX
- unibody build, nice design, feels great in the hand and very premium.
- companion core is amazing for standby time
- screen is one of the best if not IPS displays I've used, great all around
- better battery life if web browsing due to LCD
- camera hardware is good
- software in general isn't the best yet, falls behind Samsung by a good margin as usual
- some quality control issues being sorted out especially with displays
- tegra zone if ur into that
Both
- Quad-core is overkill, newer architecture would be best. Was hoping for the dual-core Exynos based off 28nm to be in SGS3. S4 Krait looks like the way to go for now in terms of performance and battery savings.
SGS3
- exynos 4 is faster as well as gpu
- software hardware integration is one of the best
- samoled hd has best blacks and vivid though oversatturated colors, Samsung tweaked it better supposedly
- pentile is still a bit noticeable, not a dealbreaker
- still using plastic and definitely feels "cheaper"
- sd support, removable bigger battery
- IMO the design is ugly, especially the back. The white color looks okay.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Both phones are much more comparable than Sgs2 and sensation. They trade blows and comes down to what you want.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759.php
HTC One X over Samsung Galaxy S III
Impressive polycarbonate unibody
Brighter IPS LCD2 screen with a full set of subpixels
Beats Audio
Already on the market
Likely a bit cheaper
Samsung Galaxy S III over HTC One X
Bigger screen - 4.8" over 4.7"
Higher display contrast and better sunlight legibility
More storage options - 16/32/64GB + microSD over non-expandable 32GB
S Voice natural language commands and dictation
S Beam for easy and fast file transfers
User-accessible 2100mAh battery over non-removable 1800mAh battery
1.9MP front-facing camera with Smart Stay
+ Better sound quality
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If your showing gsm arena like everyone else theyre not a good source and their test is outdated.
Look for anandtech with their updated software. The international one x gets 7 hours of 3g web browsing. S4 one x get over 9 hrs of 3g web browsing, over 5 hrs with lte.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Chillz88 said:
Typical comparison from an htc fanboy regretting his buy.. looK At the words 'definitely' 'ugly'.. i bet you are regretting your buy looking at the amount you troll here and how hard you try to keep up with your posts telling htc is good and blah... lol.. i did like the htc one x but people like you make me wonder if i might later be in denial mode like you later....seriously isnt there enough development in the htc forums to keep you busy..
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People like you make me lose faith in mankind. Where in my posts does it make me look like a fanboy. I've had the past 3 samsungs and loved them.
I said clearly in the post IMO capitalized the design is ugly. Obv everyone won't feel the same.
Im making valid scientific comparisons and based off me having had the galaxy nexus and galaxy s II as well as original galaxy s. I thought I hit all the right points. Samsung software and soc is better, HTC software sucks. Does that sound like a fanboy?
Take your ignorant bashing posts elsewhere.
Have you held and compare the one x with something like the galaxy nexus. Don't tell me the galaxy nexus feels more high quality because even though its great, plastic is plastic and doesnt feel as nice.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Should we add comparisons to the Evo 4G LTE in this thread? because that phone will be much closer to the GS3 US release - both will have the same cpu, same size battery and sdcard, so the only difference will be the screen, software and chassis - and even the chassis is probably going to be different.

Yawn. Anyone got anything new for the table?
Sent from my LG-P920 using xda premium

Posted this in a different S3 vs HOX thread, I'll just drop it off here
I honestly don't think the HTC phones in general look that cool. Maybe it's just me, but none of them really stand out to me, they all seem weird :/ I think people just think they're nice looking, because that's what they're told and that's what everyone's lead to believe by the company. If you've never seen a smartphone in your life and someone handed you the one X and the S3, I think people would probably think the S3 is a nicer looking phone. I mean, everyone seems to think the iPhone 4s is the nicest looking thing out there, but it's not. My initial reaction when I very first saw it was 'That thing is ugly'. It's going backwards, phones should be getting softer corners, everything lately has been rounded. The 4S has some weird boxy shape to it, yet after a week or so the general consensus is that it's the best looking phone out there. Why? Because it's an iPhone. I think the same goes for HTC, I've seen their production video for the HOX, I'm aware of the work they put into designing it, and I appreciate that. But personally, I really don't think it's a great looking phone, it's weird. Especially when phones have a white back and a black front, it doesn't look professional to me. It looks as if the company got cheap and decided to switch out the plastic on the back instead of making an entirely new phone; again, my reaction when I saw the dnifferent Razr color variants that all still had a black front, I was like 'That looks stupid?'. I really just think that the S3 is a better looking phone. And in general HTC has too many bugs with their products on ship, both hardware and software wise, I think everyone can agree on that. But even disregarding that, I really don't like Sense either. it's snazzy looking sure, but it's a memory hog and HTC phones are notoriously slow because of it. Not to mention development is difficult. I've never understood the hate for TouchWiz, it might not look as nice as some other launchers and Android UI variations out there, but it sure as hell offers the best performance. I've never used a phone as smooth as the S1 and the S2, ever. In fact they run smoother than the Galaxy does ICS, and I'm speaking from experience and many other sources. That's what rooting is for though, just install a theme and keep the speed plus that comes with TW.
Maybe other people agree with me, maybe they don't. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine. And someone might get really worked up over this post because they disagree with everything I'm saying. But that's my opinion, feel free to discuss

pewpewbangbang said:
If your showing gsm arena like everyone else theyre not a good source and their test is outdated.
Look for anandtech with their updated software. The international one x gets 7 hours of 3g web browsing. S4 one x get over 9 hrs of 3g web browsing, over 5 hrs with lte.
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GSMarena is way more accurate in terms of battery comparison.
I get around 4 hour using my HTC One X browsing with around 10% juice left. So its pretty accurate.

pewpewbangbang said:
People like you make me lose faith in mankind. Where in my posts does it make me look like a fanboy. I've had the past 3 samsungs and loved them.
I said clearly in the post IMO capitalized the design is ugly. Obv everyone won't feel the same.
Im making valid scientific comparisons and based off me having had the galaxy nexus and galaxy s II as well as original galaxy s. I thought I hit all the right points. Samsung software and soc is better, HTC software sucks. Does that sound like a fanboy?
Take your ignorant bashing posts elsewhere.
Have you held and compare the one x with something like the galaxy nexus. Don't tell me the galaxy nexus feels more high quality because even though its great, plastic is plastic and doesnt feel as nice.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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I remember getting a similar answer from you in a different thread, it's just weird to see you being so active on a forum for a phone that you see as inferior, or at least not to your liking... I didn't mean to be a jerk back then but some of your phrasing really sounds like you are making yourself feel better over your purchase. For example: "exynos 4 is faster as well as gpu, but not a humongous difference, nothing noticeable both are more than fast enough for anything out" Why explain? it's faster period. Even the dual core of the S2 is more than enough for pretty much everything on the market so why do you have to downplay it by adding stuff like that?
Both phones are great and have their pros and cons we all know that but right now, the still unoptimized S3 which is not even yet released wins most if not all "hands on" reviews. So it is almost certainly the better phone. The screen is a matter of taste. I prefer AMOLED and I'm saying that as an intermediate photographer... I have my dedicated equipment for "natural" colours and such and I see no use for it on a phone and multimedia device. As far as multimedia goes it looks FAR better on an AMOLED screen for the blacks alone. Not to mention it has a far superior battery life when it comes to that.
HTC seems to aim at the hip, young and "cool" audience where as the galaxy series seems to aim more at the matured audience IMO. Beats audio by "Dr. Dre" and Sense as an indication for that... I can't stand the looks of sense and while TouchWiz will not win any beauty contest it still looks more grown up to me, especially those small changes they did in the app drawer etc.

MultiLockOn said:
Posted this in a different S3 vs HOX thread, I'll just drop it off here
I honestly don't think the HTC phones in general look that cool. Maybe it's just me, but none of them really stand out to me, they all seem weird :/ I think people just think they're nice looking, because that's what they're told and that's what everyone's lead to believe by the company. If you've never seen a smartphone in your life and someone handed you the one X and the S3, I think people would probably think the S3 is a nicer looking phone. I mean, everyone seems to think the iPhone 4s is the nicest looking thing out there, but it's not. My initial reaction when I very first saw it was 'That thing is ugly'. It's going backwards, phones should be getting softer corners, everything lately has been rounded. The 4S has some weird boxy shape to it, yet after a week or so the general consensus is that it's the best looking phone out there. Why? Because it's an iPhone. I think the same goes for HTC, I've seen their production video for the HOX, I'm aware of the work they put into designing it, and I appreciate that. But personally, I really don't think it's a great looking phone, it's weird. Especially when phones have a white back and a black front, it doesn't look professional to me. It looks as if the company got cheap and decided to switch out the plastic on the back instead of making an entirely new phone; again, my reaction when I saw the dnifferent Razr color variants that all still had a black front, I was like 'That looks stupid?'. I really just think that the S3 is a better looking phone. And in general HTC has too many bugs with their products on ship, both hardware and software wise, I think everyone can agree on that. But even disregarding that, I really don't like Sense either. it's snazzy looking sure, but it's a memory hog and HTC phones are notoriously slow because of it. Not to mention development is difficult. I've never understood the hate for TouchWiz, it might not look as nice as some other launchers and Android UI variations out there, but it sure as hell offers the best performance. I've never used a phone as smooth as the S1 and the S2, ever. In fact they run smoother than the Galaxy does ICS, and I'm speaking from experience and many other sources. That's what rooting is for though, just install a theme and keep the speed plus that comes with TW.
Maybe other people agree with me, maybe they don't. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine. And someone might get really worked up over this post because they disagree with everything I'm saying. But that's my opinion, feel free to discuss
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Your comment is kind of hard to read, but I'd have to say I'd be surprised if 8-9 out of 10 people didn't prefer the hox design. Not only the general shape, but the feel, the way front facing camera and sensors are integrated into a nice looking design etc. I really can't see why samsung made the sgs3 look so messy, particularly with placement of flash, sensors etc.
Sense is a memory hog, but it looks good, with nice widgets etc, is user friendly, and htc have listened to feedback by slimming it down.
As you say, for most people on here the phone will be rooted and sense/TouchWiz isn't an issue.....although I do like being able to choose between sense/de-sensed/miui/vanilla android/CM9 ROMs.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

MultiLockOn said:
And someone might get really worked up over this post because they disagree with everything I'm saying. But that's my opinion, feel free to discuss
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As long as you don't try to make your personal opinion out to be what everyone else should be thinking and imply that they're somehow not quite right in the head for disagreeing with you, have at it. Your opinion's no more valid or invalid than anyone else’s.
LCD vs. AMOLED, PenTile vs. non-PenTile, design, feel, and build materials are all subjective and therefore can't be right or wrong. Things like fixed storage and non-replaceable batteries aren't debatable. However whether they're important to everyone equally is.
There’s “right” and then there’s “general consensus.” From the amount of commentary regarding the SGS3’s design both here and in the press the general consensus is that it’s not universally appealing. Even the GSMArena review which has now become the penultimate validation of the SGS3's supremacy commented on it. Personally, I’m getting a SGS3 in spite of its looks; not because of them.

pewpewbangbang said:
If your showing gsm arena like everyone else theyre not a good source and their test is outdated.
Look for anandtech with their updated software. The international one x gets 7 hours of 3g web browsing. S4 one x get over 9 hrs of 3g web browsing, over 5 hrs with lte.
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tests are always a point in time capture of things and it is imho just right to compare both devices with stock configuration. you could always argue "but if i do this and that my device is faster/better" but that is not the point.
if you tell someone who wants to decide between a volkswagen golf and a honda civic that the volkswagen golf is faster, just because you have the GTI version or did something to the engine to make it faster will not really help the guy trying to compare the two cars. of course you could apply an update for the htc one x and than gain an advantage, but now samsung users could say "but if you install the latest samsung rom you again get better results" and so on. there are many many many devices that never see an update at all, because their owners are either afraid of OTA-messages telling them to update or they simply do not install the manufacturer update software on their PC. to get back to the car analogy, if you tell the guy to get a volkswagen golf, because it's faster and the guy does it and ends up being disappointed with slower car because he thought it was faster as is and not with tweaks/tuning you are to blame.
i could again argue that my galaxy s II is faster than the htc one x because i get higher scores in some due to the uber-cool minimalistic rom i installed. should i tell anybody now to buy the galaxy s2 because its better than the htc one x ?
it is remarkable how much time htc one-x users spend here in a "foreign" forum to flame against the samsung galaxy s3. seriously, if i had a htc one x i would by happy with it and if i am content with the situation i enjoy it and feel no need to visit forums of other devices to tell them that my device is superior.
this really looks like a case of cognitive dissonance where you try to construct a "version" of reality where the purchase of the htc one x against waiting for the galaxy s3 makes sense.

Chillz88 said:
Typical comparison from an htc fanboy regretting his buy.. looK At the words 'definitely' 'ugly'.. i bet you are regretting your buy looking at the amount you troll here and how hard you try to keep up with your posts telling htc is good and blah... lol.. i did like the htc one x but people like you make me wonder if i might later be in denial mode like you later....seriously isnt there enough development in the htc forums to keep you busy..
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Why do you get so upset and feel that he's regretting his buy? It looks to me that he's pointing out his opinion quite respectfully. Ugly isn't how i'd describe it but to me it looks plain, it looks like a samsung, but i'll still buy it. The thread title will lure one x owners here, can you not see that? I hope the sgs3 lives up to your expectations and has no launch issues as yourself and the other members that struggle to deal with differing opinions will struggle to deal with the sniggers from the one x owners.
The sgs3 forum is the place to be if you want a comparison thread between one x and sgs3, its almost as if some people are trying to justify choosing the samsung after it failed to live up to hype by bashing the one x.

For American Variants on Sprint:
HTC EVO 4G LTE:
-Dedicated Camera Button
-Kickstand
-Available in your hands May 18th
SGS3 - Sprint Variant(Assumptions):
-+100mAH battery size
-Removable battery
Tossup:
Screen size
Screen tech (Pentile vs LCD)
Sense vs TW
Build Quality (HTC One X > SGS3, but EVO varies from it for better or for worse)
Sound Quality (If the DaC is based on the SoC, should be very similar)
Processor
GPU

And release date of GS3 in the US is unknown - it could be delayed months. Also there is a good chance the phone we get won't have a physical home button (at least with Sprint).

1orka said:
Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post:
"No, I met the controlled environment where they had the phones take photos of photo comparison.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?...&idPhone3=3621
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?...&idPhone3=3621
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?...&idPhone3=3621
It is no coincidence that that noise in all the other images remain. The noise is only more evident in these comparisons. Scroll all along the pictures to see what I'm talking about.
Taking pictures of my dogs with my HOX I can actually notice a noise on them, and zooming in it is more evident.
Look around the brown, you see a noise.
What you say might be true, I honestly won't know till I get my SGS3 and do my own comparisons on a daily basis and choose between the One X and SGS3."
I do see noise but it's also a lot brigher
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3...w=759&idPage=5
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3...w=759&idPage=5
And again, there is blue tint on SGS3 sample.
And i'm not interested at looking at grey charts and some crappy quality posters, if i already have real life photo samples, including those taken in controlled environment, where i clearly see who the winner is, sorry..
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So what you are saying here is that you are not interested in anything that doesn't support your argument but only interested in things that support your argument?

Basil3 said:
Your comment is kind of hard to read, but I'd have to say I'd be surprised if 8-9 out of 10 people didn't prefer the hox design. Not only the general shape, but the feel
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here comes the first flaw in your theory. so you say people would prefer the htc one x because of the feel, even though you did not ever touch the galaxy s3...
Basil3 said:
, the way front facing camera and sensors are integrated into a nice looking design etc. I really can't see why samsung made the sgs3 look so messy, particularly with placement of flash, sensors etc.
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how a symmetric order of flash, camera lense, loudspeaker grill is perceived as "messy" can only be explained by the math teacher that probably gave you low grades in geometry.
in general i like very much that samsung did take a further step with touchwiz to improve the user experience in a way that will omit the need to root the phone for user interface tweaks. just think of how they integrated what jkay added with the scrollable notification bar shortcuts... very nice i gotta say

HTC One vs Galaxy S4 (undecided)

So it's time for a new phone for me from the Evo 3D. I keep phones for 2 years and I choose phones based upon specs and what I like (didn't get the 3D for the 3D).
I am asking for the best attempt for non bias opinions for which would be the best phone to own for 2 more years.
I would have gotten the Galaxy S4 if it came with the 8 core but since it comes with a quad core at 1.8Ghz over the HTC One's 1.7 that is no longer and issue. With Kernels and OC I'm sure they will both be very stable at 2Ghz which is plenty fast for a phone.
My biggest concerns are the Camera, the sound, screen quality, size and customization.
Camera:
So far I am loving the HTC One's low light camera. If I want a high MP camera then I will use a camera but most of the time I want to take a picture with my phone and it turns out bad it is in low light. So I like to give the +1 to HTC One on camera plus the Zoe feature seems very nice and useful. I will have to wait to see how the two compare and I hope the Galaxy S4 has some samples after it gets announced.
Sound:
I like the amplified speakers on the HTC One, though It doesn't mean the Galaxy S4 isn't going to sound nice. I havn't heard anything about the speakers on the Galaxy S4 so I need to know more about this one to make a decision on which gets the +1.
Screen Quality:
This is a tough one for me, both are probably spectacular and screen size isn't what chooses the +1 on this one for me. I like the quality of the picture more. If anyone sees some good info on this plz post when it comes available.
Size:
I could never own a phone as big as the Note 2. It just isn't pocket friendly and I don't want anything that big. It's great for those who want to mix a tablet with a phone and size isn't an issue, but for me it has to be pocket friendly and not pocket filling. I havn't seen dimensions of the Galaxy S4 on this so I can't decide until that information comes available so please post when available. But from reviews the HTC One looks like it's a good size in the hands.
Customization:
This one is big since It's very fun to do and worth doing. The battery is an issue for me atm because I wouldn't know what to do when it freezes unless there's a reset button that acts like a battery pull (then it's important to how I get to it. If it requires a pin then I have to think how often will I be able to take a pin out and reset it) . For me I don't have to replace batteries in my phone and technology in batteries is increasing and they should last 2 years unless your eating you battery up 2-3 times a day. Mine has always lasted me the day because when it's low I just limit myself.
The SD card isn't really a problem for me because I only own a 32GB version SD card and I will just use it as a USB if I were to get the HTC One or pop it in the Galaxy S4 if I were to get that one. 32GB is plenty for me as I have an IPod for music and don't need a ton of movies on my phone. One of the things the S4 is big about is the scrolling feature, but I'm not sure that is important to me. I also don't care for the new sense and it's focus being live feeds.
If anyone has any input on the categories please let me know. I usually get phones for my parents when I get one for myself too. So far I am leaning towards the HTC One which is why I came here. I just need to know more before I can decide.

Fairly sure comparison threads
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How can you decide between something that has not been released yet???

Against rules to compare, thread will be closed as soon as a moderator sees it
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Obviously the best thing to do is wait until the S4 announcement. Read reviews for both phones but don't take them as gospel. Read around for other impressions, watch some videos and if possible see if there are any demo units near you that you can try out.
Otherwise look at both specs and see whats more important for you?
Higher MP camera, removable large battery, MicroSD slot, RGB notification led, 5 inch OLED display? - Go for S4
Better build quality and looks, better low light camera, HTC Sense and Zoe, superior audio output, 4.7 SuperLCD 3 with higher PPI - Go for HTC One.
I have ordered the HTC One, but if the S4 announcement is good and meets what I want then I will definitely be looking to get that.

Yeah you have to wait 2 more days and the s4 will be announced, then you will know the official spec of the s4 which i doubt would be much better than HTC one

NiCk.JaY said:
Against rules to compare, thread will be closed as soon as a moderator sees it
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When did it become against rules to compare phones based upon one persons needs and that person asks the community for assistance. I know XDA has changed from what made XDA the place to be, but seriously can't see it being that bad.

toxicfumes22 said:
When did it become against rules to compare phones based upon one persons needs and that person asks the community for assistance. I know XDA has changed from what made XDA the place to be, but seriously can't see it being that bad.
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Sorry, but this fires up the brand bashers and instead of any real help, you'll get only fanboy trolling. This is why it is against the rules
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Please read the rules. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158159
As a comparison thread isn't device-specific by definition, it cant stay on a device forum.
You could make such a thread in Android General if you so wish.
Thread closed.

HTC ONE vc SGS IV

Hello XDA,
I'm currently looking into getting the HTC ONE or SGS IV.
Im really stuck on which phone to get at the moment, they are both obviously amazing phone's.
I would like to have a phone that will get android updates so 4.3 and 5.0.
I would like the phone to be "future proof" is either phone more so over the other?
At the moment I'm more inclined to get the SGS IV at the moment but a lot of people on here have said some amazing thing's about the phone. I love the good build quality and front facing audio. But the SGS IV has a slightly bigger screen and slightly more development potential (CM10 etc)
What do you think XDA, as I havent many good comparisons yet (apart from the camera)
Jonny

Finally the first thread about this discussion! Leggo!

mettleh3d said:
Finally the first thread about this discussion! Leggo!
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very helpful :good:

mettleh3d said:
Finally the first thread about this discussion! Leggo!
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The Initial things I have found for good comparison.
HTC ONE Pro's:
Build Quality
Audio
Camera (low light) (normal light debatable)
SGS IV Pro's:
Replaceable battery (extra sd slot)
Bigger screen (preference)
"sammy features" you can use gloves, multitasking
4.2.2. (HTC ONE 4.2.2 soon)
Up for grabs -
Battery life (SGS IV 8 core may take this one, normal quad core may be close)
Screen
development (roms etc)
Add-ons (cases etc)
(please tell me what to add or move)

jonnyaztec said:
Hello XDA,
I'm currently looking into getting the HTC ONE or SGS IV.
Im really stuck on which phone to get at the moment, they are both obviously amazing phone's.
I would like to have a phone that will get android updates so 4.3 and 5.0.
I would like the phone to be "future proof" is either phone more so over the other?
At the moment I'm more inclined to get the SGS IV at the moment but a lot of people on here have said some amazing thing's about the phone. I love the good build quality and front facing audio. But the SGS IV has a slightly bigger screen and slightly more development potential (CM10 etc)
What do you think XDA, as I havent many good comparisons yet (apart from the camera)
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I dont think there is such thing as future proof phone nowdays... unless you are talking about immediate future
In terms of specs the two are practically identical. Processor difference is minimal.
Screen size difference is also minimal in terms of practical use. I've had 5" and 4.7" before and I can say that in reality its no difference.
Two factors I would consider are:
- Build quality - SGS has never been about build quality and unless really taken care of its body takes a beating quite easily. HTC One is a winner
- Battery - WIth a non replacable battery in HTC One after a year once the battery weakens you cannot change it. Stuck with it.
So overall, you have to sacrifice one way or another.
To me the premium look/feel of HTC wins any time of the day... but thats me

Both phones will get Key Lime Pie. I can assure you.

Don't mean to be 'that' guy but I'm pretty sure VS threads aren't allowed. No doubt this thread will be closed by mods very soon.
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The War Horse said:
Don't mean to be that guy but I'm pretty sure VS threads aren't allowed. No doubt this thread will be closed by mods very soon.
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Although I have named it a VS Thread my idea is to try and provoke some talks of people to see what is good about the HTC, for people on the fence. There is not really many threads about this, the reviews are not out yet. How are people meant to know what to buy/pre-order? (like my situation it's good to discuss both phones) if that is against the rule , i understand close this puppy down!
Jonny

This will get closed. Its against this forums rules and only leads to insults there are never any good civilized discussions about it.

There are literally tons of threads about what's good about the HTC One. These sort of threads only end up in a flame war with fanboys of HTC and Samsung kicking off with each other.
Have a good look through the threads. Hamdir's sticky mega thread has more then enough info in it to decide of you want it or not.
Then there's the photo threads and there are tons of video reviews. Not to mention reviews and feedback from owners of the phone.
If this isn't a VS thread then you have been quite lazy and not read anything else here as there's been enough for everyone else to decide from.
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Record-breaking display responsiveness (touch latency) on the M8 ahead of Z2 and S5

Microsoft explained that high performance touch performance is becoming increasingly key aspect of a mobile device's user experience.
Microsoft report on Display latency
Apparently the HTC One's diplay latency is record breaking - measured at 46ms, ahead of other 2014 flagship smartphones, in particular well ahead of the S5 and Z2.
Source: Lesnumeriques.fr
It is not at the 1-20ms recommended by Microsoft but it is a great step forward considering the fact that 2014 smartphones barely go below 70ms. The previous record was held by the Note 3 with 67ms.
Here is the 2014 smartphone ranking:
HTC One M8: 46ms
Note 3: 67ms
Asus Padfone: 73ms
iPhone 5S: 75ms (same as iPhone 5)
Nexus 5 : 75ms
S5: 91ms (165ms with activated air view and deactivated "increased sensibility")
Z2 100ms (glove mode)
LG G2: 110ms
Note: the fastest tablet has 54ms (IPad Mini Retina)
Here is an overview for older devices:
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It will be interesting to track the performance of other devices: S5, Z2, etc...
Source
Lesnumeriques.fr
Here are touch latencies for tablets:
Source: appglimpse.com

That might explain my love in as to why I love this phone.
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600+delay how can you possibly use a device like that
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batna.antab said:
600+delay how can you possibly use a device like that, hat
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Yes 0,6 sec but that's only one device. Thinking about it even 170 ms is a lot. Almost one 1/5th of a second...

Arthur Hucksake said:
That might explain my love in as to why I love thThat's one.
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Yes I think this plays an important role in the perceived snapiness of a device . that's also probably why I wasn't so impressed with the LG G2.

wow i am actually surprised that the Xperia Z does extremely well in this regard.

Hellscythe said:
wow i am actually surprised that the Xperia Z does extremely well in this regard.
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Would be interesting to see how the display on the Z2 compares

This is an incredibly important aspect of every phone that people shouldn't ignore like they seem to. Touch latency is one of the many reasons why iPhones have always seemed so snappy. Now that HTC has even surpassed Apple, it shows that, while Android has been relatively smooth for a while, with proper touch latency it can blow you away. Good job HTC and, yes, I did notice.

I have a hard time trusting that chart, I'm not anti Samsung or anything (in fact I love them) but there is no way in hell the s3 tested faster than the HTC One. Or any Samsung phone for that matter, the delay in touch responsiveness has always been my biggest gripe with Sammy products.
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Guys as per forum rules, please keep the discussions device specific. Comparing phones against each other in a general way is against forum rules. If this keeps happening I will close the thread.

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I think this is one aspect of a phone where you need reference benchmark to put it into perspective. As long as the information is quantitative and not subjective, I think it serves the purpose of information HTC One M8 potential purchasers about how the device stands in the market.
Posts in other threads compare camera picture quality and benchmark results, which are much more controversial. I think as long as the comparison is factual,specific and quantified it does not fall into the "degenerative" opinion-based topic, which attracts haters and trolls, and I think that's the spirit of the rule to prevent that.

puremind said:
I think this is one aspect of a phone where you need reference benchmark to put it into perspective. As long as the information is quantitative and not subjective, I think it serves the purpose of information HTC One M8 potential purchasers about how the device stands in the market.
Posts in other threads compare camera picture quality and benchmark results, which are much more controversial. I think as long as the comparison is factual,specific and quantified it does not fall into the "degenerative" opinion-based topic, which attracts haters and trolls, and I think that's the spirit of the rule to prevent that.
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Why is ghost ruining the party on every thread

Is the latency the same on the GPE? Any way to find that out?
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puremind said:
I think this is one aspect of a phone where you need reference benchmark to put it into perspective. As long as the information is quantitative and not subjective, I think it serves the purpose of information HTC One M8 potential purchasers about how the device stands in the market.
Posts in other threads compare camera picture quality and benchmark results, which are much more controversial. I think as long as the comparison is factual,specific and quantified it does not fall into the "degenerative" opinion-based topic, which attracts haters and trolls, and I think that's the spirit of the rule to prevent that.
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I must agree with you and disagree with the moderator that threatened to close the thread. I've been on XDA for a long time and threads like this that contain information that is not widely available need to contain data about other devices to give the data recorded for the M8 something else to compare it to. If we had the touch latency data for the M8 listed and no latency data for other devices then this thread would not be as informative.
Mod, please do your best to weigh the background information required to properly convey a data set (so long as it's not illegal/warez related) against the rules of XDA. Sometimes they need to be bent just a wee bit to convey certain information more completely to the layperson.

batna.antab said:
600+delay how can you possibly use a device like that
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puremind said:
Yes 0,6 sec but that's only one device. Thinking about it even 170 ms is a lot. Almost one 1/5th of a second...
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I wondered that myself: what sort of a P.O.S. is that machine? On one hand, we're all so used to more-or-less 'immediate' response from our phones/computers/etc. that I'm sure anywhere else 600ms wouldn't bother us (vending machines, for example), but on the other hand when in comparison to other well-known hardware I'm sure we'd feel completely pissed off using the JMI whatever-it's-called.

Love to know why the Nexus 5 and any GPE doesn't make it to that graph... wonder why...

DeathmonkeyGTX said:
I must agree with you and disagree with the moderator that threatened to close the thread. I've been on XDA for a long time and threads like this that contain information that is not widely available need to contain data about other devices to give the data recorded for the M8 something else to compare it to. If we had the touch latency data for the M8 listed and no latency data for other devices then this thread would not be as informative.
Mod, please do your best to weigh the background information required to properly convey a data set (so long as it's not illegal/warez related) against the rules of XDA. Sometimes they need to be bent just a wee bit to convey certain information more completely to the layperson.
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Putting in my +1 for this opinion as well. Given that this is the "general" board, it makes sense to discuss comparisons to other devices so long as messages remain on-topic to the top-level device. Messages forked off discussing only the GS5 vs Note3 would obviously be grounds for deletion.
With that out of the way, I brought up this touch response information to a developer I know who does a lot of work with both Android and iOS. His thoughts were, yea, the faster touch responsiveness of the M8 is nice, it's really nothing to get excited about. The numbers being reported about touch response time are just that; touch response time. What we need to be concerned about is application and overall response time rather than just touch.
Sure, touch is important since it's the first step in that overall equation, but while your input signal to the M8 device might be recorded by the touch sensor just that split second faster than other devices, it still loses the race in terms of application responsiveness. If an app on the M8 (or any Android device for that matter) takes 250ms to open (ballpark), that's still slower than iOS. Granted, iOS plays small tricks to hide the time it takes to launch some apps, but in general, the platform is still faster in terms of overall responsiveness and that feeling of snappiness.
Playing with the Sprint version of the One (M8) the other night, I really couldn't tell much of a difference at all in terms of overall response time between the M8 and M7 they had on display. The M8 actually felt only marginally faster than my current Evo3D.

onesolo said:
Love to know why the Nexus 5 and any GPE doesn't make it to that graph... wonder why...
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I was thinking the same thing. First two devices I looked for (besides the M8) was the Nexus 5 and the iPad Air.
Seems like this chart is slightly outdated.

rotchcrocket04 said:
I was thinking the same thing. First two devices I looked for (besides the M8) was the Nexus 5 and the iPad Air.
Seems like this chart is slightly outdated.
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The source web site is linked. They do this test in every review so anyone can look up their favorite device. I looked this up for you:
Nexus 5 : 75ms
IPad Mini Retina: 54ms
iPad Air: 58ms

puremind said:
The source web site is linked. They do this test in every review so anyone can look up their favorite device. I looked this up for you:
Nexus 5 : 75ms
IPad Mini Retina: 54ms
iPad Air: 58ms
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I should have clicked the source, thank you for providing that. Really interesting to see how responsive these new displays are.

Has anyone here gone from a Z2 to an M8?

Hi all,
I'm thinking about doing the reverse of this title and going from an m8 to a Z2 as the camera is quite frankly pants. However I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has moved from a Z2 to an M8 and what your reasons were.
TIA

jimxms said:
Hi all,
I'm thinking about doing the reverse of this title and going from an m8 to a Z2 as the camera is quite frankly pants. However I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has moved from a Z2 to an M8 and what your reasons were.
TIA
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Won't get a lot of replies on here Moderator will close this thread soon enough, comparison threads between devices aren't allowed

BerndM14 said:
Won't get a lot of replies on here Moderator will close this thread soon enough, comparison threads between devices aren't allowed
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Seriously? I can understand that between roms as its likely to upset devs, but manu's should have a thicker skin than that lol.

Well in an HTC forum, you'll get people in favor of HTC. In the Sony forum the reverse...Need to find a neutral ground/forum to ask.
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gustav30 said:
Well in an HTC forum, you'll get people in favor of HTC. In the Sony forum the reverse...Need to find a neutral ground/forum to ask.
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Some people who have owned both must be capable of a balanced assessment surely? My main concerns are over build quality and stability what with the rest of the phone specs being extremely similar.
I just don't want to sell my M8 in order to get a Z2 (for the better camera) , but then end up with shoddily put together phone with lots of glitches.

Yeah, the General section should be ok I suppose.
I think the reason they don't allow it is because it usually turns out into a flame war of some sorts lol

I'm on the fence, but I read in the z2 forum that the mics are not that good during video recording...like clipping during loud noise. M8 mics excel in that area.
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If the z2 was more accessible I may try it. Till than m8. Sony is in the same boat HTC was last year. A great product with no sales or marketing. And not available on most carriers
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jimxms said:
I'm thinking about doing the reverse of this title and going from an m8 to a Z2 as the camera is quite frankly pants. However I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has moved from a Z2 to an M8 and what your reasons were.
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It was the reverse for me too. I've had the 64GB version of the original HTC One (m7) from AT&T for a year, then briefly upgraded to the m8 once it came out this spring. I quickly returned it however, and have since gotten a Z2 which is now my primary phone.
Between the 3 devices, each one has some advantages over the others. These are:
HTC One (m7) over HTC One (m8)
Optical Image Stabilization.
micro-SIM
(up to) 64GB of storage built-in. This is both a pro and a con:
One problem with external µSD cards is that starting with Android 4.4, applications can no longer write to folders outside of its own data folder, so applications like BitTorrent Sync will not be able to work. This is not an issue on internal storage.
On the other hand, with the M8 or the Z2, you can now use 128GB cards for more than twice the storage; and with the proper fix (NetApp SDFix from the Play store) you can eliminate the previous issue
HTC One (m7 and m8) over Xperia Z2
Zoe! If you capture a lot of moving objects (overactive kids etc), this is invaluable to help you capture the "best" (and most blur-free) shot.
Better email reader, better email + calendar widgets/shortcuts. I especially like the mailbox-specific "shortcut" icons on the desktop with an unread mail counter, bringing you straight to that account's inbox (or any other folder), as well as the 1x4 calendar widget. Corresponding icons/widgets on the Sony Xperia's are more klunky. (The minimum size for the native calendar widget is 2x4, and 3rd party widgets don't work so well).
More active developer community -- more hacks, more custom ROMs. In particular I found the tweak to disable Exchange security on the m7 email reader quite useful - there does not seem to be a similar hack available for the Z2. (Because of this and the previous point, on the Z2, I'm now using the "Nine" mail reader for my work mail; this allows "application level" security at least).
Blinkfeed. Sony "Socialife" falls a bit short. I have not tried Flipboard (Don't like that I have to register for that, too) - still looking for a good news/social media aggregator.
More ergonomic, especially for single handed use.
More accessible µUSB/charging port. With the Z2, you either have to deal with the side flaps covering the ports, or else use the included magnetic charging dock and/or a Z2-specific charging cradle or receiver for your car. Neither cradle works if your Z2 is dressed up in a case.
I didn't much care for the Duo camera. This was the main reason I got the m8 in the first place, especially for the "background blur" feature. It fell quite short of my expectations, and was not really worth the loss of the OIS from the m7. Hence, returned.
Z2 over HTC One (m7 and m8)
Better camera. Not so much because of the extra megapixels (images from the Z2 are a bit noisy at the pixel level, and don't really have a lot more detail than the HTC one), but because of better color balance, less susceptibility to overexposure, blooming and white-outs. HTC do have a point with regards to the theory behind their "ultra-pixels" - if only that theory were applied well in practice.
Bigger screen - still extraordinary crisp!
Noise cancelling headphones included. This is great when on a noisy train (as I am to/from work every day) -- I often wear them even if I'm not listening to anything.
Better built-in keyboard (though I install "Swype" from the App store in any case).
Speakers are great on all these devices. That is, the original HTC One's are a bit weaker after a firmware upgrade sometime back, but with custom firmware you can get the original sound volumes reinstated; hardware-wise it has the loudest and cleanest speakers of the 3.
Hope This Helps...

Both device and ROM comparison threads are not allowed due to flame wars, but the answer above this one is very in depth and should suffice so I'm closing this thread. For more information about device comparisons, please see this post by @wildstang83 which includes a link to the only approved device comparison thread.
Thanks,
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