Should I upgrade to 4.3? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I upgraded back when 4.3 first came out and I didn't like it. Two main reasons were that flash absolutely wouldn't work even with adobe flash installed and stock browser installed. I know flash isn't officially supported in jellybean but it works almost flawlessly on 4.2.2 with the right browsers. Couldn't get it working at all on 4.3 and there are a few content sites out there that I enjoy where flash is still required unfortunately. Hopefully flash will eventually be completely consumed by html5. The other main reason was that I couldn't get any type of adblock to function on 4.3 where as on 4.2.2 it works fine. I would like to take advantage of the supposed stability that 4.3 offers but I don't think its worth the cost of having no flash. I guess I could live with having to see adds. Does anyone know if there is a way to get flash working on 4.3?
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If i knew that i wouldn't get anything noticable with 4.3 like it is, i would never update to 4.3
4.2.2 worked awesome, but with 4.3 i have some micro lags in some areas.
Btw, "adaway" works great on rooted 4.3, try it.

nikola1970 said:
If i knew that i wouldn't get anything noticable with 4.3 like it is, i would never update to 4.3
4.2.2 worked awesome, but with 4.3 i have some micro lags in some areas.
Btw, "adaway" works great on rooted 4.3, try it.
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So are you saying you like 4.3 or you dislike it compared to 4.2.2? Thanks for the heads up on adaway.
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They always say: "If it ain't broken, don't fix it", and because you seemed to be completely happy with 4.2.2, you can better stick with it.
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nikola1970 said:
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Btw, "adaway" works great on rooted 4.3, try it.
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Where can one find a safe download source for adaway these days?

Try this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190753
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Flash did not work for me either on 4.3, until I updated the bootloader to 4.23. After this, I installed the latest flash apk and it has worked flawlessly with Dolphin browser since.
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Is their anyone here not gonna jump into 4.3 yet?

Judging from the board their really isnt much of a need to atleast not until the OTA update comes out or when custom roms and kernels come out for 4.3.. I mean battery life on 4.3 has been hit or miss, Rooting 4.3 is still buggy and may not work right?
I'll get it when my phones finally get the OTA I can wait to root if need be. Just as I can wait for custom roms and kernels too.
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You can use OTA rootkeeper if u dont want to lose your root
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n205des said:
You can use OTA rootkeeper if u dont want to lose your root
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doesnt work with 4.3
I'm trying to keep lte I tried 4.3 but couldn't get lte working until there's an all in one zip I can flash I'm hanging back
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I am waiting for the CM 10.2 merge to complete and to see what they come up with as a solution for the whole nosuid issue on the system partition.
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Sherrillface said:
I'm trying to keep lte I tried 4.3 but couldn't get lte working until there's an all in one zip I can flash I'm hanging back
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just flash the .33/.83 hybrid radio, download the network app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mangelow.network), select lte/gsm (auto), change your apn from epc.tmobile.com to fast.t-mobile.com and enjoy.
I actually jumped on it right away, but evidently my favorite app (Podkicker Pro) needs tweeking to be compatible with it because it keeps crashing every time i open it. I went back to 4.2.2 for now but once Podkicker is updated, then I'll jump back onto 4.3. My only regret is that I'll miss the original gtalk app. So far, I am NOT a fan of Hangouts.
Chainfire's SU for the SGS4 works on our N4s. He posted it on his Google+ page. It is also referenced in the 4.3 OTA thread.
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ph37rd said:
Chainfire's SU for the SGS4 works on our N4s. He posted it on his Google+ page. It is also referenced in the 4.3 OTA thread.
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What do i do if i get this message in cmd? says that it is not recognized as a internal or external command, operable program or batch file
Im on windows 8
Yep, I'm going to wait. I put the factory image on my Nexus 7, but I'm going to wait for Cyanogenmod to release a 4.3 build for the Nexus 4.
Waiting for mbq's BBQ ROM so I'll be waiting for the betas.
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Waiting for Halo + 4.3.
I'm not going to complain about it though in the thread because I want them to take there time and do it right.
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I got the ota link from here and haven't looked back since. I didn't have 4g for all of 20 hours and now I am on some pure Aosp goodness from Jarjar124. No complaints from me even though I thought it would kill me to be on vanilla'sh ROMs.
Going to wait till the JellyBeer ROM updates
I jumped. I'll install PA4.3 when its dropped tho. But I really like 4.3 Improvement all around.
Waiting for PA...
Can't help with the fact that I have to sacrifice so many features from custom ROM and kernel for the "upgrade". The android version can wait.
nevermind I was gonna do it but my drivers are messed up or its windows 8 fault but cmd doesnt recognize my Nexus 4 so I'll just wait for the POT update. screw it
I am waiting for Paranoid Android to upgrade to 4.3
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Just bought a Nexus 4 and I got some questions!

Actually, I didn't just bought it. I originally bought 2 Nexus 4 at launch. One was for my dad and one is for me. I didn't opened mine until now, which is many months after launch.
I don't know which version of Android is on my phone, but I think it's probably 4.1. I know about the LTE hack and how it was disabled in 4.2. Now that Android 4.3 is out, how can I update to 4.3, but still keep LTE as an option? I prefer stock Android, but a friend is telling me to install Cyanogen Mod. Won't that require a root and is Cyanogen using Android 4.3 yet?
Anyways, my main priority is to update to Android 4.3 while keeping LTE if possible. How can I do that? Thanks!
Nexus 4 comes stock with 4.2. You can use LTE but you'll have to flash a zip file that will enable it. Yes I believe CM has a 4.3 build already.
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Thibaultvw said:
Nexus 4 comes stock with 4.2. You can use LTE but you'll have to flash a zip file that will enable it. Yes I believe CM has a 4.3 build already.
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Will I need to root my phone to enable it? I thought there's also some sort of key command to activate LTE?
Regardless, if I upgrade to Android 4.3 right now, is there a way to enable LTE or you don't recommend me to do any sort of updates until I have sort out the LTE issues? I'm just afraid that after upgrading to 4.3, I won't have any recourse to go back and get things right.
lsquare said:
Will I need to root my phone to enable it? I thought there's also some sort of key command to activate LTE?
Regardless, if I upgrade to Android 4.3 right now, is there a way to enable LTE or you don't recommend me to do any sort of updates until I have sort out the LTE issues? I'm just afraid that after upgrading to 4.3, I won't have any recourse to go back and get things right.
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You will have to flash a custom recovery which isnt that hard. There are a lot of guides out there that will certainly help! Yesterday I came across this vid and he explains it very well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywaMf29yExQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Hit thanks if I helped
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Thibaultvw said:
You will have to flash a custom recovery which isnt that hard. There are a lot of guides out there that will certainly help! Yesterday I came across this vid and he explains it very well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywaMf29yExQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Hit thanks if I helped
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So I can flash a custom recovery after upgrading to Android 4.3 right?
lsquare said:
So I can flash a custom recovery after upgrading to Android 4.3 right?
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Yes! I had all these questions myself a few days ago, because I used a toolkit in the past, but actually it isnt hard to do it urself.
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(Q) to people who stay on stock and don't root..

Don't take this offensively... But I want to ask people who don't root their Nexus 7, why don't you? It seems like people who aren't rooted are running into problems more than the people who are rooted.
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Even though I have all my phone rooted I never considered rooting the tablet. It runs stable enough, is a nexus device so will be updated to the latest android version which the hardware supports and most importantly Sky Go doesn't work reliably on rooted devices
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d3xp2pc said:
Even though I have all my phone rooted I never considered rooting the tablet. It runs stable enough, is a nexus device so will be updated to the latest android version which the hardware supports and most importantly Sky Go doesn't work reliably on rooted devices
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My example of the tablet not running reliably is the EMMC slow down because fstrim wasn't enabled until 4.3 by default. While rooted, you had the option of manually running fstrim or using an app to do it. Though Sky Go seems like a reason I'd stay away from rooting. Some apps even bar you from using them. I'd probably using OTA Root Keeper and temporarily disable root.
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TheLastSidekick said:
My example of the tablet not running reliably is the EMMC slow down because fstrim wasn't enabled until 4.3 by default. While rooted, you had the option of manually running fstrim or using an app to do it. Though Sky Go seems like a reason I'd stay away from rooting. Some apps even bar you from using them. I'd probably using OTA Root Keeper and temporarily disable root.
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I've never really experienced any slowdown, but strangely enough I was watching an xda video this morning about something related. I have tried OTA Root Keeper and similar apps and Sky Go seemed to detect them. Only way I found to do it was to as you say temp unroot, uninstall super user app etc. Found it too much of a pain.
If I did start experiencing issues like slowdowns etc, I wouldn't hesitate to root. One thing I am missing is per app DPI settings from PA.
https://twitter.com/d3xp2pc
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d3xp2pc said:
I've never really experienced any slowdown, but strangely enough I was watching an xda video this morning about something related. I have tried OTA Root Keeper and similar apps and Sky Go seemed to detect them. Only way I found to do it was to as you say temp unroot, uninstall super user app etc. Found it too much of a pain.
If I did start experiencing issues like slowdowns etc, I wouldn't hesitate to root. One thing I am missing is per app DPI settings from PA.
https://twitter.com/d3xp2pc
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Nandroid your stock setup, and go back to PA buddy lol. I'm sure there's a way around Sky Go and someone else has had the same problem.
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Might be my project for tomorrow lol
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d3xp2pc said:
Might be my project for tomorrow lol
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Here, maybe try this for bypassing those pesky I have root problems.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amphoras.hidemyroot
Edit : may not work if you are on 4.3 unfortunately.
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TheLastSidekick said:
Here, maybe try this for bypassing those pesky I have root problems.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amphoras.hidemyroot
Edit : may not work if you are on 4.3 unfortunately.
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I did actually use this and it did work on 4.2.2
Only problem is you have to re-authenticate all your root apps. Not a big issue, I suggested to the author that before uninstalling the root app it backed up the data then restored it on reinstalling.
https://twitter.com/d3xp2pc
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What about using multi-ROM to dual boot a rooted ROM and a bone stock ROM? It would be the best of both worlds and you'd only need a simple reboot to switch back and forth.
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Nexus 7 WiFi 4.4.2 update

Hey, i just received 4.4.2 update prompt, if someone explains me how, i will upload it for you
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Umm what? You want to know what?
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How to extract the zip
Edit: where can i find it inside the root of my tablet?
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Even i got an update notification for 4.4.2 ...and its only 1.7MB in size...don't think it has much changes
Nevermind here it is
https://mega.co.nz/#!eIJCQSaA!Ynecn2b0ddpIlE6JEAQy-VuJNAzyjdpuwioEVJzGjdI
(KOT49H)
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i haven't even seen 4.4.1 update notification on my Nexus 7 2013 wifi yet, let alone 4.4.2.
Here is it, i think it downloaded 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 at the same time
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New Adreno driver?
4.4.2 installed
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Has been published ota link on g+, androidcentral account
I'm too lazy to backup & unroot & back to stock to get 1.7mb of OTA... Should I just ignore this one?
It seems to be trivial enough.. 1.7mb?
sky417 said:
I'm too lazy to backup & unroot & back to stock to get 1.7mb of OTA... Should I just ignore this one?
It seems to be trivial enough.. 1.7mb?
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I am, At least until I see reports of the N7 shooting flames out of its tail pipes and burning rubber from the new update.
4.4.2 alraedy?
I just got 4.4.2 update download as well, didn't even receive the 4.4.1 notice yet. Won't install for now, will wait for Franco kernel to be updated as well as bionic/dalvik patches.
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Reverted to KOT49E binaries, installed OTA for KOT49H, rebooted, reinstalled bionic binaries. all is well with ART n bionic on 4.4.2
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Reverted to KOT49E binaries, installed OTA for KOT49H, rebooted, reinstalled bionic binaries. all is well with ART n bionic on 4.4.2
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Haven't even gotten 4.4.1 yet, still on 4.4. What's the speed of this rolling out. I know it's based on serial numbers, but folks already getting 4.4.2 while some of us haven't even gotten 4.4.1.
Has anyone tried OTA Survival Mode yet with recent (1.55 and above if I am correct) SuperSu Pro? I read about succesful updates from 4.3 to 4.4 and 4.4 to 4.4.1 with our device while keeping root, but also about soft-bricked devices. Would make life easier if it works because I have stock recovery and wouldn't need to temporaryly adb load TWRP via Usb every time after OTA to reroot.
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i haven't even seen 4.4.1 update notification on my Nexus 7 2013 wifi yet, let alone 4.4.2.
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I never saw 4.4.1 but 4.4.2 is installing right now. First I was aware that there was a 4.4.2.
I got it OTA. No difference at all. Except the keyboard noise now sounds like a kids toy.
Edit: After using it a bit I think video performance is a lot better, seems more stable. And YouTube now works properly for me.
just got mine it was 58mb
(i didn't receive the 4.4.1 ota update)

N7105 4.3 upgrade UK users

Has anyone updated to 4.3 official using any of the roms from sammobile? I see the nordic countries 4.3 is available, I normally use either this, the German or Swedish version, I've even used a Hong Kong one before now lol, but with the recent changes Sammy have made regarding knox and location lock etc, I'm a bit dubious to upgrade.
They normally just work, just checking this is still the case before I end up with an expensive paperweight.
There is a thread somewhere by chainfire with a fix to sammys region lock. The lion rom is pretty much stock with nox removed, you just have to use devil's kernel for wifi
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Cheers mate but need to stay unrooted for the main apps I use.
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I have flashed mine to the nordic contries im in uk and everything works great yes it has knox but I have had no problem rooting or installing custom roms. Im on the new skynote 4.3 note 3 edition and its the best rom I have used so far
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Cheers mate. I flashed it the other day haven't got around to posting an update yet.
Yes it has knox, but I'm not going to be rooting this device because I use it for sky and a few other apps that require unrooted.
Impressions are good so far. Everything is smooth and all my apps are working as they were before, including the sky sports app which got an update recently to work with 4.3.
One thing to note though, if you use allshare cast dongle. It has a problem working with 4.3 devices that have been updated. So if you run into this issue the fix is to do a factory reset.
There is a workaround for rooted devices on here, it's in the S4 section.
A bit of a pain having to reset I know but seems to be the only solution for unrooted devices that run into it.
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Riki1kenobi said:
Cheers mate. I flashed it the other day haven't got around to posting an update yet.
Yes it has knox, but I'm not going to be rooting this device because I use it for sky and a few other apps that require unrooted.
Impressions are good so far. Everything is smooth and all my apps are working as they were before, including the sky sports app which got an update recently to work with 4.3.
One thing to note though, if you use allshare cast dongle. It has a problem working with 4.3 devices that have been updated. So if you run into this issue the fix is to do a factory reset.
There is a workaround for rooted devices on here, it's in the S4 section.
A bit of a pain having to reset I know but seems to be the only solution for unrooted devices that run into it.
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Hi mate
I'm also using the sky go app, and on stock 4.1 I've just been using ota rootkeeper to toggle root when needed. I really need root for the viper audio mod.
I'm just wondering which 4.3 ROM you've got it to work on? With 4.1.2 it NEEDS to be stock ROM and kernel for sky go to work. If I upgrade I want to get a ROM without knox, but any custom ROM won't work.
Please let me know as right I'm sticking to 4.1.2.
Thanks
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There weren't any custom rom's available for the 7105 that were stock with knox/location lock removed when I last checked (may be different now?). I just used the nordic rom from sammobile.
If there's none available I think you'll need to wait for a dev to rip the rom and remove knox if you don't want it. Unless you have the time and skills to diy I got the skills but not the time, unfortunately
As I said, I'm not bothered about knox at the moment. I was more bothered by location lock, but I've not had any issue so far.
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Lion Rom is stock deknoxed non region locked deodexed. I'm running it now it's goid
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fade2black101 said:
Hi mate
I'm also using the sky go app, and on stock 4.1 I've just been using ota rootkeeper to toggle root when needed. I really need root for the viper audio mod.
I'm just wondering which 4.3 ROM you've got it to work on? With 4.1.2 it NEEDS to be stock ROM and kernel for sky go to work. If I upgrade I want to get a ROM without knox, but any custom ROM won't work.
Please let me know as right I'm sticking to 4.1.2.
Thanks
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I don't know if this will work on skygo as I don't have sky but its worth a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
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sawdoctor said:
I don't know if this will work on skygo as I don't have sky but its worth a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
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Thanks for the tip mate
Will give it a go when I'm back from work and let you know
Why not just flash the bootloader from DN3 it works with all the official roms and is knox free?
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Why not just flash the bootloader from DN3 it works with all the official roms and is knox free?
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Yeah I will probably do that at some point.
I'm assuming I can restore my nandroid backup to 4.1.2 if I'm not happy?
The xposed mod unfortunately didn't work... Thanks anyway
Some apps are funny as to what they decide is a security risk. Sky are so far up Apple's arse they tend to look for anything that's NOT as the manufacturer released as a security issue. It's actually bollocks but try telling them that.
My other Note 2 is rooted and running 4.3 without all the bs. But most of the apps I need simply won't install/run due to idiotic requirements of the app provider. Hence why I have a 2nd note 2 which has been rooted but I had to unroot and reset the flash counter to get these apps to work. Guess Sammy aren't too fussed, they did get 2 sales from me lol
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