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Android 2.3.3!!!

Here is the link:
http://android-developers.blogspot....id+Developers+Blog)&utm_content=Google+Reader
Looks exciting!!

mmanjj said:
Here is the link:
http://android-developers.blogspot....id+Developers+Blog)&utm_content=Google+Reader
Looks exciting!!
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Very cool! More NFC functionality is awesome, IMO! Thanks for posting man!

Now where's the manual download link

Too bad it doesn't include the Random Reboot fix, as that (IMO) is a much more needed update. *smh*
http://androidandme.com/2011/02/pho...s-new-nfc-features-random-reboot-bug-remains/

how come i didnt get the update???

Same as before; roll-out is staggered so not everyone will auto-download it on day-1. Could try calling *#*#checkin#*#* & see if that kicks it in... didn't for me though. Hence the hope someone posts the file so it can be manually installed

Noone has it yet, be patient
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this update doesn't really give any benefit to the users right?

looking forward to the OTA update

Excited about NFC, but far more disappointed by lack of major bug fixes.

More locales inside? Any one knows something about this?
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2012iawait said:
this update doesn't really give any benefit to the users right?
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Not unless you really love NFC.

thommcg said:
Not unless you really love NFC.
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disagree. This will allow users to share contact info directly from phone to phone. it will also allow you to write to NFC tags which can be very cool. So for example, I have a watch I wear that is a NFC tag with 4k of memory. With the new release I can write change the content of what is on that tag. Right now I keep it as my contact info.

Who said major bugs won't be fixed? Clearly google decided to showcase 2.3.3 because of the NFC thing. Fixed bugs has never been showcased in change logs by google. So there is still hope!!!

I once had the idea of using NFC as input for password, like an electronic key. This will allow greater convenience once device level encryption is supported. I hope this can be realized some day.

SupaDupaFly24 said:
Who said major bugs won't be fixed? Clearly google decided to showcase 2.3.3 because of the NFC thing. Fixed bugs has never been showcased in change logs by google. So there is still hope!!!
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Yeah, the idea of true changelogs is apparently alien to Google's Android team.

zorak950 said:
Yeah, the idea of true changelogs is apparently alien to Google's Android team.
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Hehe they take their cues from Team Douche I'm sure there will be more fixes and alterations than that post implied so I wouldn't be too worried about it not stating specifically what is changing.

Si_NZ said:
I once had the idea of using NFC as input for password, like an electronic key. This will allow greater convenience once device level encryption is supported. I hope this can be realized some day.
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The hardware supports it. NFC with a secure element provides a new level of security. Just needs to be implemented in items. they already have house locks and car door locks that use this type of system. Just need PCs to adopt it too.

thepro8 said:
The hardware supports it. NFC with a secure element provides a new level of security. Just needs to be implemented in items. they already have house locks and car door locks that use this type of system. Just need PCs to adopt it too.
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My understanding is that technology uses RFID not NFC.

Will this install on a stock, rooted ROM on a custom kernel?
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No Movies for Rooted XOOMs?? Devs unite!

Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.

gdogmcstyles said:
Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.
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I feel ya bro, and I'm pretty sure the devs are already looking into it. Since it is a DRM authorization issue, it is probably going to be a pretty good hack to get around it.

I'm confused by 2 things on this topic:
1) why does it matter if its rooted or not?
I would assume the answers is because root would allow us some magical privledge of copying a cache and possibly extracting video and then redistributing.
2) how the frig can it tell?
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that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play

Kcarpenter said:
2) how the frig can it tell?
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My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).

Well instead of listening I tried it as well with The Green Hornet and couldn't download it. Kept getting error but these developers will come up with the answers they have been nothing short of amazing when it comes to the Moto Xoom
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kcrudup said:
My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).
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Assuming scenario 2, wouldn't Super User prompt for permissions? I would think its likely.
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This is the same with the blockbuster app on the Atrix. I can set SU to block requests from the app, but as long as I'm running rooted, it refuses to play (and tells you when you launch the app).
I don't understand the difference between this and running Itunes or Netflix on a "rooted" (admin capable) PC. Why is the phone different?

This is not development. Moved to general.

theimpaler747 said:
This is not development. Moved to general.
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Your forum, you run it your way, just a question.
With all due respect, couldn't OP remain if modified to [REQUEST] since it's a dev request? General is so filled with crap I think this may get lost. :/

bishop72 said:
that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play
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So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.

It isn't very surprising to hear. None of the major studios will allow media to be downloaded without some form of restrictive DRM and root access probably violates their policies.

rebill said:
So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.
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? I saw the movie link in Web version of Market.

Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.

cur8or said:
Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.
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Would make more sense for it to check if you're rooted before the transaction goes through.

Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.

Strange, I have unlocked and rooted Nexus One and could play any Netflix video in official Netflix app, so DRM works on rooted system. So may be it's problem with something else?

If you order thru your web browser by going to the web based android market and play it thru your web browser it works.

Thanks for the tip on the browser market thing it works
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nbajwill55 said:
Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.
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Lol you're an idiot. It isn't googles fault they had to do this. If you were selling movies and wanted to make some money, would you want them to be distributed for free without your permission? I think not...

About to purchase a used Galaxy S I9000

Sirs,
How are you all doing? this is my very first post and I decided to ride dirty with the android OS finally (I'm late..) Originally coming from that dead Symbian OS environment.. I love customization and everything related to tinkering the phones hardware and software..
So now I am about to buy a used galaxy S I9000, I just want to know what are the things to look for this used android unit? I can see it's just slightly used so what will I look for aside from the outside appearance? How about in the software itself?
I only know that the phone is on GB 2.3.3 I think and it has like a custom way of killing apps, launching..really it's my first time on android and I need professional advises and this is the best site to ask from, I know.
Jesse

Check usb connection and it powers on and gets signal ..... Duplicate thread
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as expected, so if this is a duplucate thread, could you please give a me a link to this thread sir? I already read the guidelines, rules, and regulations but I just want to ask from a personal standpoint and I expect this forum to be the best and expert in this Android revolution..

Someone else opened the same.thread
Just make sure usb is secure, make sure it boots ok and speaker is ok.
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alright alright gotcha!

How do you want to use your phone?
In my opinion, this device is a disappointment for normal,everyday basic use.
If you really want android ride on SGS, keep yourself ready for be here on xda regularly for help (you tasted it already)and hacks,be ready to root your phone and be ready to reboot your phone n number of times(sometime it does auto ) and be ready to get a mixed feeling,sometime it makes you happy and sometimes you would like to throw it away.
Its my opinion based on use, not intended for anything else.
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GreenSGS said:
How do you want to use your phone?
In my opinion, this device is a disappointment for normal,everyday basic use.
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Unless you're installing the latest beta ROMs or custom ROMs, this phone is actually very stable and reliable for day to day use. And the UI is fast and responsive enough on 2.3.3. In any case, in terms of reliability and speed, the SGS is miles ahead of any Symbian device.

Wtf???
Mate. He said he likes to customize.
I have nothing but good things to say about my phone. Gps is accurate and always has been. I knocked back an sgs2 upgrade to wait for next nexus.
Check pixels and speaker.
Check Gps accuracy in maps.
Usb connects and check for 3 button combo to recovery/download mode.
Good luck and enjoy.
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Guys,
My use of phone dialer,messaging and call logs comes under basic use.
And dialer lags, contacts gives message 'no additional info available' and then shows number.no matter which rom you use.
Even dialer removed from memory.
I have 2 phones in house one running stock 2.3.3 and one 2.3.5 so I am not imagining anything.
Dont reboot phone for a week and see what happens.
If it was all that good, all the ram tweaks,kernel tweaks,optimization tweaks, wouldn't even exists.
If your expr. & opinion differs post it.
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wow thanks! a lot of tips already! my appreciation to you guys,
well i want my phone for calls, sms, internet, productive apps,some graphically good games?, storage for photos(bought a 16GB microSD yesterday for this phone, excited am I?) videos-movies perhaps? some noobie photography (BTW I love that touch to focus feature!)
I guess I'm more into content, really LOL
Again thanks!
PS how to enter to download mode?

I'll try first dealing with the stock roms, is there any 2.3.7 GB for galaxy cause I see it everywhere along with the CM7? is that an official firmware or CM7 based on that OEM firmware? maybe when I want more, that's the time I'll do a CM7 flash..what about skype video calling or google talk? is it good in this phone?

GreenSGS said:
How do you want to use your phone?
In my opinion, this device is a disappointment for normal,everyday basic use.
If you really want android ride on SGS, keep yourself ready for be here on xda regularly for help (you tasted it already)and hacks,be ready to root your phone and be ready to reboot your phone n number of times(sometime it does auto ) and be ready to get a mixed feeling,sometime it makes you happy and sometimes you would like to throw it away.
Its my opinion based on use, not intended for anything else.
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Trollollololol - back under your bridge fellow.

"Do not feed the trolls"- epic quote
I will be using this phone for everyday use, k?

Another important thing to look for: if it enters Download Mode [Vol Down + Home + Power]
If not, it can be fixed, but it involves a little risk. This would be the only risky thing you'll do software wise, after your Download Mode works, it's very hard to brick the phone.

jcagara08 said:
I'll try first dealing with the stock roms, is there any 2.3.7 GB for galaxy cause I see it everywhere along with the CM7? is that an official firmware or CM7 based on that OEM firmware? maybe when I want more, that's the time I'll do a CM7 flash..what about skype video calling or google talk? is it good in this phone?
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2.3.7 was a Nexus upgrade that added things like NFC, which most phones do not have the hardware to support this. CM7 uses Nexus source code. I don't believe anything helpful for you was added/changed.
And try not to believe the crap these people are spewing. My contacts, diallers, and whatever else that guy was rambling about are just fine. And obviously that is not a problem across all ROMs, considering most ROMs use different apps (for example, Samsung apps aren't run on AOSP ROMs—and I haven't seen this problem on either).
Good luck! It's an exciting phone.

wow, thanks to all of your advices dudes! what would be a good protector for this phone aside from the screen guards?

Nexus 7 3G (HSPA+) - Phone Capable?

Please stay on topic - asking just about the phone capability please.
I have spent an hour searching the web and no thread indicates whether it is data only or also voice/phone capable.
I know that we can pull a phone application, but the question is if the modem is phone capable or not.
If you answer please link to your source, or share how you know.
I think for many if this is also a phone (and not just a VOIP sub-par option) it could go head to head with a Note2, with a reduced budget.
Thanks.

Even i am looking for this questions answer but not getting proper answer..Its not confirmed yet abt voice calls/sms

Add one more to the list of people who would like to know the answer to that question. I'd like to upgrade my Galaxy S, which is getting a bit long in the tooth, and I wouldn't mind to loose the back camera (I seldom use it anyway, plus I actually have a digital Point-and-shoot). Also, since I don't make that many calls, a small, cheap tablet makes total sense for me...
My guess is that, if the Nexus 7 with 3G is anything like the original Galaxy Tab (probably one of the original Android Tablets) on that department, then voice is a given. But you never know if the modem is crippled in any way...
Also, since we're on this topic, any news if the launch date is global, or only for the US? And if the 3G will be Europe-friendly, for that matter?
Miguel

I have used Line 2 on mine, so I don't see why it wouldn't work.

Interested in knowing too.

Interesting topic..i've plan to upgrade my n7 to n10 or n7 3g..
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This is exactly what I would like to know. Is there hardware that needs to the N7 to make it 3g capable or will Google send and an update to current N7 owners?
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blacktrump1974 said:
Is there hardware that needs to the N7 to make it 3g capable or will Google send and an update to current N7 owners?
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As far as I know, currently shipping N7s completely lack any kind of 3G-capable hardware. It's simply not installed, period. And, since that hardware it's a tiny chip with even tinier contact points that needs to be soldered at manufacturing time (not to mention the rest of the supporting hardware, including the antenna, and already supposing the PCB actually has the required traces in place, which may or may not be the case), then ANY currently N7s being sold will never be 3G capable by themselves. Unless someone develops some kind of dongle to be added, though I don't even know if that's possible...
So, unless I'm terribly wrong, to get an N7 with 3G, you'll need a new one.
Now, one question that popped into my mind in the meanwhile. There was at least one review that took the N7 apart that found out the PCB for the N7 actually has a mounting area for a back camera, and probably all the PCB traces are in place, too. At the time, the reviewer said it could have been a leftover from the design phase, or something that had to be cut back due to the target cost. With these new SKUs popping up, do you think Google will eventually throw the back camera in at some point?
Miguel

i,ve asked google customer support several days ago on this same question but not yet get an answer. one thing i,m certain is that this all depends on the modem.that is, the modem may be data connection capable only, or may also be capable for making voice calls.
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decemberpei said:
i,ve asked google customer support several days ago on this same question but not yet get an answer.
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...

any news regarding that? i really want to know!

zorgblaubaer said:
any news regarding that? i really want to know!
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My guess is, unless someone can get their hands on one of them before November 13th, we'll have to wait until at least then to get this question answered.
Also, a bit OT, but does anyone know launch dates for all countries? It would suck so much to have to cross the border just to get my hands on one... Right now, you can only get the 32GB Nexus 7 in Portugal (we completely skipped the 8GB and 16GB versions, they were never even available, though the good news is that we got the 32GB version along with the US), though only through retail (no Play Store for anything other than apps).

__Miguel_ said:
How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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I can't remember very clearly . i just playing around at android.com looking for some customer support page,where i could ask questions via email since i am not at us. i finally made it at some page like 'my order'. i filled in some personal info,and managed to sent out my question to google. the 'order id' field was not required, but after that i was not able to find the page anymore. the support pages really sucks. just toooooo much links and i keep jumping everywhere and finally get lost,
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If its no voice calls then i will not buy i guess,better i will buy galaxy tab 2 but NoT sure but on gsmarena.com they mentioned that ONLY DATA,NO VOICE CALLS on uppar side of specs.

I have been trying to find the answer to this question as well without any luck. Would be nice to get this confirmed or denied in a official way but i guess we wont know untill nov 13th

__Miguel_ said:
How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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here the response from google customer support: The Nexus 7 3G version currently does not have a built-in phone app, so it will not be capable of making any phone calls. It has 3G data connectivity and Wifi as of now and currently may be used with any carrier that supports GSM/UMTS/HSPA+.
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decemberpei said:
here the response from google customer support: The Nexus 7 3G version currently does not have a built-in phone app, so it will not be capable of making any phone calls. It has 3G data connectivity and Wifi as of now and currently may be used with any carrier that supports GSM/UMTS/HSPA+.
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Still can't find anything besides a "send feedback" link over at Android.com. I think you were extremely lucky
Anyway, that reply might be a good thing after all: we all know the phone app is disabled for the N7, it has been said before. However, as someone also already mentioned, it's usually possible for people to enable that app, even if you need a custom ROM for it. So, assuming the whole "does not have a built-in phone app" thing only means "we didn't enable voice capabilities because, frankly, it would cannibalize our other offerings, but the underlying hardware is perfectly capable of doing that" (not that you would actually hear anyone from Google saying that, or have them write that down... lol), we'll be golden.
Is any way you can reply to that e-mail and specifically ask which is the baseband/chipset they will be using for the data capabilities? If we had that tidbit of information, we should be able to know if voice could be unlocked or not...
What a way to start my day, with a hopeful news... Nice!

__Miguel_ said:
Still can't find anything besides a "send feedback" link over at Android.com. I think you were extremely lucky
Anyway, that reply might be a good thing after all: we all know the phone app is disabled for the N7, it has been said before. However, as someone also already mentioned, it's usually possible for people to enable that app, even if you need a custom ROM for it. So, assuming the whole "does not have a built-in phone app" thing only means "we didn't enable voice capabilities because, frankly, it would cannibalize our other offerings, but the underlying hardware is perfectly capable of doing that" (not that you would actually hear anyone from Google saying that, or have them write that down... lol), we'll be golden.
Is any way you can reply to that e-mail and specifically ask which is the baseband/chipset they will be using for the data capabilities? If we had that tidbit of information, we should be able to know if voice could be unlocked or not...
What a way to start my day, with a hopeful news... Nice!
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i reply the customer support's email with another question but they didn't give me the direct answer!
my qusetion was:
"thanks for your kindly help. would you tell we if the hardware modem itself supports voice calls? as you know,in android,a 3rd party phone app could take the work of the built-in phone app. so lack of built-in phone app really doesn't matter much. eager for your reply and thanks again!"
their response:
" The N7 3G version can be used for Voice over IP calls, such as Skype, or Google Voice, etc but you will not be able to use the tablet as a phone. Hope that helps."
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decemberpei said:
their response:
" The N7 3G version can be used for Voice over IP calls, such as Skype, or Google Voice, etc but you will not be able to use the tablet as a phone. Hope that helps."
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I think that kind of confirms where the blogsphere is currently on this topic.
No cell for us

__Miguel_ said:
How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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Apparently you did not look that hard..
Google Contact Page
Device Support Number 1-855-836-3987
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I think that kind of confirms where the blogsphere is currently on this topic.
No cell for us
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Technically No...
It doesn't answer whether or not the modem(radio) inside the device has been limited (hardware wise) to only a Data connection.
The N7 runs the tablet version of Android, which means the Phone Feature (dialer, etc) has been removed.
The phone dialer you see on some tablets, are custom to that manufacturer, not added by Google.
What we need to know is if the Hardware part of the N7 will allow for a Voice connection to be made. If so, then the Software part can be added back in. Which I'm sure if the hardware needed is there, then the many geniuses here on XDA will quickly make the Dialer appear
And I might be completely mistaken here, but SMS should be possible since its Technically Data, and only requires a Phone Number to route the messages. If SMS is possible, I would be happy with just that, as I do not use voice (if I needed to, I have a cell for that, which I pay an extreme amount for, but only make on average 2 calls a month) - But this would also require the SMS app be added back into the N7 firmware.
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I think it all come down to Waiting... Waiting for the device to be release, and someone taking it apart to see what its capable of.
Since Google employees people in their service department that are not completely "Tech" savvy, I don't think we can take any answer they give as fact.
I called them the other day, and asked about the Modem/Radio within the Nexus 7 3G.. and The CSR answer was "No you can not plug a Phone Cord or Ethernet cable into the device, and if you want to listen to the radio you must download a 3rd Party App or Try our Google Music service, but it's not a radio" - Couldn't help but laugh uncontrollably for 10min straight.

To root or not to root? What are the pros and cons of rooting?

Im thinking of rooting my note 3 (sm-n900) and installing CM 12.1. The main reason to do this is to eliminate the bloatware, increase the speed, get the latest updated (improvements, updates, security fixes, etc). By doing this, I will loose some cool features I love (like the smart stay, s view cover, S pen features, etc). So, what do you think? To root or not to root?

I can't possibly think of a day without an unrooted phone!
At the same time I can't possibly think about putting CM or anything like that anywhere near my phone.
Hope you get what I am trying to say.

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Im thinking of rooting my note 3 (sm-n900) and installing CM 12.1. The main reason to do this is to eliminate the bloatware, increase the speed, get the latest updated (improvements, updates, security fixes, etc). By doing this, I will loose some cool features I love (like the smart stay, s view cover, S pen features, etc). So, what do you think? To root or not to root?
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Tell me how it goes if you go through with it because I'm unsure about doing myself.
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devilsdouble said:
I can't possibly think of a day without an unrooted phone!
At the same time I can't possibly think about putting CM or anything like that anywhere near my phone.
Hope you get what I am trying to say.
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Sorry... why don't you like CM?

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Sorry... why don't you like CM?
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Multiple reasons, really don't want to type a long list, don't have time.
If you are into that sort of stuffs then why don't you try and let us know. I hate it, doesn't mean you would too.
But a FACT won't change, we are not using some crappy old device where the official support is ended and we are stuck with Jelly Bean or something. I prefer stability and a fully featured ROM more than any buggy nonsense. However there are people who don't listen to songs, take pictures or videos or talk on a mobile phone, for them display, sound those don't matter, only if Facebook opens with some decreased animation times they are happy, but I am so fortunate to be not one of them, if you get what I am saying.

devilsdouble said:
Multiple reasons, really don't want to type a long list, don't have time.
If you are into that sort of stuffs then why don't you try and let us know. I hate it, doesn't mean you would too.
But a FACT won't change, we are not using some crappy old device where the official support is ended and we are stuck with Jelly Bean or something. I prefer stability and a fully featured ROM more than any buggy nonsense. However there are people who don't listen to songs, take pictures or videos or talk on a mobile phone, for them display, sound those don't matter, only if Facebook opens with some decreased animation times they are happy, but I am so fortunate to be not one of them, if you get what I am saying.
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Great... Now I got what you are saying! And I agree! But I use the phone a lot specially for work and use less for facebook, photos, etc. Since I use it a lot I need more speed and don't like samsung apps getting in my way like the s planner (Can't uninstall it and install google calendar). I also need the latest updated on my phone because I think they have the latest security fixes and bug fixes. Usually when I face a bug, I need to wait for months to or nearly an year to receive a fix with the stock rom. And I like to see how vanilla Android feels like. So If I make up my mind (hard ) I'll try and let you know.
By the way. Can we trust the roms in `sammobile`? They say those are the original stock roms? If I fail, I can use that to revert back right?

dracinn said:
Tell me how it goes if you go through with it because I'm unsure about doing myself.
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Sure I will let you know if I manage to make up my mind to do it. Still it's 50 - 50

THpubs said:
By the way. Can we trust the roms in `sammobile`? They say those are the original stock roms? If I fail, I can use that to revert back right?
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Oh yes, sure, you can trust sammobile.com absolutely.
One more thing, you can uninstall any app you want, just install Root Uninstaller. I have uninstalled ****e apps like S Voice, Trip Advisor, Google Books etc. and all those apps I don't need.

devilsdouble said:
Oh yes, sure, you can trust sammobile.com absolutely.
One more thing, you can uninstall any app you want, just install Root Uninstaller. I have uninstalled ****e apps like S Voice, Trip Advisor, Google Books etc. and all those apps I don't need.
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Cool! But one more thing... how does they get the original firmware if samsung doesn't offer it on their site?
Hehe great thanks!
<Mod Edit> I like to have different view points!

THpubs said:
Cool! But one more thing... how does they get the original firmware if samsung doesn't offer it on their site?
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Umm, probably sammobile.com is Samsung's site? Can't say really
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devilsdouble said:
Umm, probably sammobile.com is Samsung's site? Can't say really
I am not fighting with anyone dude, fighting only happens between two matured people :laugh: I simply am stating a FACT.
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Hehe cool! Thanks!

Thread Cleaned. Stay on topic. Like OP said, everyone has their own view points AS WELL AS ways to use their phone. Rule 2.3 requires you to show respects to fellow members
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing and this does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is unacceptable. Treat new members in the manner in which you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instructions when you can, showing them respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
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Just because someone likes the convenience and familiarity of Stock Touchwiz does not mean they are wrong. Also Just because phone is rooted does not mean custom recovery and Custom roms HAVE to be installed. Its all about individual preferences.
On the other hand, please do understand, this site is about Development and FOR DEVELOPERS. If you think certain rom has issues, then either fix it yourself since the code is already published. Or raise it to the Developers attention with clearly identified Logcats or bug reports. Blanket statements do not help.
If the argument continues, I will close the thread.