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I'm getting pretty frustrated with my nexus 7 because I'm getting horribly low Quadrant scores. I tried messing around and putting custom kernels on it but when I compared the scores to the thread I was reading, I couldn't even get the stock scores mentioned in the thread with a overclocked custom kernel.
I'm getting a total of 3412 on my Nexus 7 on my stock kernel on the stock rooted/unlocked bootloader 4.2.1. I wiped the device, reinstalled the 4.2.1 stock backup, and then installed quadrant and ran it so there shouldn't be background processes problems. This pisses me off because on the Jay's Buttery Tweaks, he got 4875 on his stock kernel/stock ROM. Somethings wrong there. What would cause such a horrible score?
The first thing you need to know about quadrant scores is................they are decieving, and usually bloated. If your N7 preforms well during use, then your good. Also, if they were that important, all rom and kernel developers would post them with their releases. They dont for a reason.
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snowman4839 said:
I'm getting pretty frustrated with my nexus 7 because I'm getting horribly low Quadrant scores. I tried messing around and putting custom kernels on it but when I compared the scores to the thread I was reading, I couldn't even get the stock scores mentioned in the thread with a overclocked custom kernel.
I'm getting a total of 3412 on my Nexus 7 on my stock kernel on the stock rooted/unlocked bootloader 4.2.1. I wiped the device, reinstalled the 4.2.1 stock backup, and then installed quadrant and ran it so there shouldn't be background processes problems. This pisses me off because on the Jay's Buttery Tweaks, he got 4875 on his stock kernel/stock ROM. Somethings wrong there. What would cause such a horrible score?
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Honestly, who cares? Is your nexus laggy? Are you having trouble doing what you want to do? If not then screw it, you're fine. Why is everyone obsessed with idiotic scores and benchmarks? The girls won't sleep with you cuz your Quadrant was over 9000!
Quadrant has never given the Tegra3 Chip really good scores for some reason? Almost all other benchmarking apps like Antutu, CFBench, Vellemo, Smart-bench, and many others will give 3 phones that I have, that are very close in specs a much closer comparison. I don't know why it is but Quadrant has never benched any of my Tegra3 devices high.
And was stated above go by how it feels in real life usage, is it snappy and smooth don't go specifically by benchmarks all the time they can sometimes give you an idea, but they are not tell you real world usage. For example my moms Samsung Transform Ultra with Android 2.3 and a 1GHz single-core Snapdragon is still really snappy. Its hard to believe that it is almost as fast as some of my quad core newer devices.
I got 2883 on my bone stock while playing the walking dead...
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Why do you care about benchmark scores? They really really don't matter. What matters is how it performs during usage. Nothing else. You can have awesome scores, yet have the device lag during normal use.
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Alright well that was with the motley kernel and I'm not sure what was up but it felt pretty smooth with the motley kernel but gave me those terrible scores. Performance in GTA3 was a decent amount better than stock.
Then I restored the stock rom and installed M kernel and trickster Mod and after that because the benchmarks were just pissing me off. Overclocked to 1.6Ghz and did some SD modifications and jesus christ everything is buttery smooth, fast loading, gta3 runs awesome, and I can get a like 6200 score in quadrant and 15397 on AnTuTu. Probably the fastest anrdoid device I've ever used.
I just confuses the crap out of me because I get pretty crappy graphics scores and changing the GPU clock and raising the GPU voltage doesn't change the GPU score on either benchmark.
Can someone tell me what the LP core is and why my GPU scores won't change?
I disagree, respectfully of course. Benchmarks like the Quadrant are useful standard tools to measure the performance of these devices. While they are not perfect, they point out potential weaknesses in our phones and tablets and whatnot.
Compared to stock Nexus 7, the iPad mini runs much more smoothly and yet is underpowered spec-wise. Still the mini puts up a better benchmark score than the superior N7.
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quadrant doesn't matter, but it can be useful for developers or just for the fun of it. first off, most people don't bench correctly. you want the CPU to be at the highest CPU speed at all times, quadrant doesn't put enough stress on the device to allow that, so the CPU will scale. if it scales, you don't know the actual CPU speed that its testing. you want to set the CPU speed at the highest speed, and you want to set the lowest CPU speed as the highest speed also. also, for higher scores, you'd need to disable fsync, and turn off tegra hot plug(and enable all four cores). sdcard tweaks wont help you, neither will jays buttery tweaks. also, overclocking the GPU wont help since we are limited in fps.
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I disagree, respectfully of course. Benchmarks like the Quadrant are useful standard tools to measure the performance of these devices. While they are not perfect, they point out potential weaknesses in our phones and tablets and whatnot.
Compared to stock Nexus 7, the iPad mini runs much more smoothly and yet is underpowered spec-wise. Still the mini puts up a better benchmark score than the superior N7.
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where does the iPad mini show better benchmarks?
Well I've tried like 4 or 5 different kernels and m-kernel is the best. Only one that can score 15,000 on Antutu.
Can anyone riddle me why no matter what I change the gpu max frequency or voltages to, my 2d and 3d graphics are always the same?
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Well I've tried like 4 or 5 different kernels and m-kernel is the best. Only one that can score 15,000 on Antutu.
Can anyone riddle me why no matter what I change the gpu max frequency or voltages to, my 2d and 3d graphics are always the same?
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those benchmarks arent gpu benchmarks, especially quadrant. we are limited to 59/60 fps no matter what gpu you use. for gpu try basemark es2.0 taiji, gpu mark, or the windmill benchmark.
trinity kernel quadrant and antutu..
Jesus christ. Those are great results. What settings are you using? I installed trinity on a fresh restore of 4.2.1 and used Trickster Mod and System Tuner to set it to 1.7Ghz, performance, deadline, 1024 cache, zRAM enabled, fsync disabled, with stock voltages but I got barely over 5000.
I'm getting 6135 on the beefed up M-kernel. You get a decent amount higher in CPU, memory, and I/O, but your 2D score triples mine. 3D is the same.
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Jesus christ. Those are great results. What settings are you using? I installed trinity on a fresh restore of 4.2.1 and used Trickster Mod and System Tuner to set it to 1.7Ghz, performance, deadline, 1024 cache, zRAM enabled, fsync disabled, with stock voltages but I got barely over 5000.
I'm getting 6135 on the beefed up M-kernel. You get a decent amount higher in CPU, memory, and I/O, but your 2D score triples mine. 3D is the same.
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bench at 1700mhz high/1700mhz low. turn off tegra hotplug and enable all 4 cores(i dont know if trickster has that option, trinity kernel toolbox does), turn off fsync. trinity doent include zram, so you couldnt of used it. zram has nothing to do for performance anyways and doesnt help you with anything else. zram gives a little more ram for devices that are low ram to begin with. the n7 isnt low ram. plus, with zram, itll get slower after a few hours after bootup. i use ondemand/deadline btw. and, go into the devices main settings, developer options, and enable force gpu rendering. that raise your 2d score. i also bet that you are getting caught in the thermal throttle, which lowers your cpu speed when your device gets hot.
alright cool thanks for the info. I'll add in those settings minus the hotplug fix andsee what that does when I get.back. I know thermal throttling lowers scores. I've been doing tests recently on a bag of ice. the cpu stays plenty cool
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I'm getting pretty frustrated with my nexus 7 because I'm getting horribly low Quadrant scores. I tried messing around and putting custom kernels on it but when I compared the scores to the thread I was reading, I couldn't even get the stock scores mentioned in the thread with a overclocked custom kernel.
I'm getting a total of 3412 on my Nexus 7 on my stock kernel on the stock rooted/unlocked bootloader 4.2.1. I wiped the device, reinstalled the 4.2.1 stock backup, and then installed quadrant and ran it so there shouldn't be background processes problems. This pisses me off because on the Jay's Buttery Tweaks, he got 4875 on his stock kernel/stock ROM. Somethings wrong there. What would cause such a horrible score?
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WOW 3412 QS... Then if I show you this you will be pissed.
Full untouched Stock FL04 JB 4.1.2 SGSII E4GT. QS 4348
Quadrant Score are not important. If it performs well who cares about a QS.
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Omar04 said:
WOW 3412 QS... Then if I show you this you will be pissed.
Full untouched Stock FL04 JB 4.1.2 SGSII E4GT. QS 4348
Quadrant Score are not important. If it performs well who cares about a QS.
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Edited to delete comment as I was an idiot and did not read the above post fully before I opened my trap.
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jamesc760 said:
I disagree, respectfully of course. Benchmarks like the Quadrant are useful standard tools to measure the performance of these devices. While they are not perfect, they point out potential weaknesses in our phones and tablets and whatnot.
Compared to stock Nexus 7, the iPad mini runs much more smoothly and yet is underpowered spec-wise. Still the mini puts up a better benchmark score than the superior N7.
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I disagree with that. Just by clearing up RAM and turning off Processes that were not being used just sitting in RAM, maybe 30 or 40MB, waiting to be used my score went up over 200 points. If the benchmark was accurate then that would not have actually made any difference as it would have cleared out any unused processes itself before running.
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snowman4839 said:
Jesus christ. Those are great results. What settings are you using? I installed trinity on a fresh restore of 4.2.1 and used Trickster Mod and System Tuner to set it to 1.7Ghz, performance, deadline, 1024 cache, zRAM enabled, fsync disabled, with stock voltages but I got barely over 5000.
I'm getting 6135 on the beefed up M-kernel. You get a decent amount higher in CPU, memory, and I/O, but your 2D score triples mine. 3D is the same.
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Wow. Really? Ive gotten 5900 with just 1.4GHz, GPU 2d rendering and clearing out some RAM, fsync disabled running M-Kernel a23.
Ok so I've been tweaking my phone, doing everything in my knowledge to make it faster. I am using the stock rom with faux123 mako jb enhanced stock 422-r2. So my first benchmark on Antutu i got 18003. re-ran the same benchmark again with the same tweaks and got 14206 and thought it was anomaly so i ran it one more time and got 16142. I went back and re tweaked everything and my scores were every were, even in quadrant. the ranges were between 14200-16800. I haven't been able to get it back to 18003, maybe because i did it on a cold boob. but, the scores shouldn't be all over the place compared to benchmarking I've done on other phones. Any ideas on this and or fix it?
Your phone is throttling. Your first benchmark will normally be your fastest. I that's how it was for me anyways.
I've also had the same experience. It is certainly due to throttling.
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Welcome to thermal throttling. I recommend a ROM with the Bionic patches (there is an otherwise 'stock' AOSP ROM with these in the dev section, I'm not a stock ROM user so I haven't any experience with it) and you should notice AnTuTu scores going up to 20k+ and a noticeable boost to actual usage. If your device will under volt well (most will do at least -100mV AFAIK) you may mitigate the throttling to some extent without compromising stability however I don't recommend disabling the thermal protection as is possible in some kernels due to the red light death issue. Throttling is only really noticeable when you benchmark back-to-back. It's not a massive issue in most real-world use. I suspect it will become more and more noticeable on newer devices as device manufacturers and SoC designers are forever scrambling to provide the best performance within the thermal constraints of a smartphone. As idle and low load consumption goes down with new processes, full load GPU and CPU thermals are forever increasing!
PA tweak improves benchmarks
I have to agree with you on this. The stock gave me an score of 17K (antutu). stability curve was all over the place in stock. switching to PA did not help much either, the scored went down to around 14K. yesterday i got an update from PA and flashing that gave me a boost of 18991. some good tweaks from PA i guess.
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Ok so I've been tweaking my phone, doing everything in my knowledge to make it faster. I am using the stock rom with faux123 mako jb enhanced stock 422-r2. So my first benchmark on Antutu i got 18003. re-ran the same benchmark again with the same tweaks and got 14206 and thought it was anomaly so i ran it one more time and got 16142. I went back and re tweaked everything and my scores were every were, even in quadrant. the ranges were between 14200-16800. I haven't been able to get it back to 18003, maybe because i did it on a cold boob. but, the scores shouldn't be all over the place compared to benchmarking I've done on other phones. Any ideas on this and or fix it?
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Lmao cold boob!
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MrKickstand said:
Ok so I've been tweaking my phone, doing everything in my knowledge to make it faster.
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You are making faster a device which already is one of the FASTEST devices on this planet?
maybe because i did it on a cold boob
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LOL:laugh:
See if it's a governor problem, set it to performance and see if it levels out. GPU scores on antutu vary by @ 1000 marks, so take that into account too.
Okay, heres the deal, When I first got my Nexus I used to get benchmark scores of the range 17-18k in Antutu, but recently, since I've tried benchmarking, I've been getting scores of only 10k, on Paranoid android 3.15, PAC, and Xylon ROMs, all with the franco kernel r134. So today I decided to flash a stock, deodexed rom, my benchmarks improved, but only by about 4k, I'm getting about 14k consistently. When I checked benchmark threads people have been getting 18-19k on stock ROMs, any suggestions on how to get that kind of performance on my Nexus?
Probably not what you want to hear but my suggestion is to stop caring so much about what numbers some app spews out and just look at how well your phone performs in day-to-day usage. If I somehow managed to get a score of 20K on my HD2, that wouldn't make it a better phone in any way.
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Okay, heres the deal, When I first got my Nexus I used to get benchmark scores of the range 17-18k in Antutu, but recently, since I've tried benchmarking, I've been getting scores of only 10k, on Paranoid android 3.15, PAC, and Xylon ROMs, all with the franco kernel r134. So today I decided to flash a stock, deodexed rom, my benchmarks improved, but only by about 4k, I'm getting about 14k consistently. When I checked benchmark threads people have been getting 18-19k on stock ROMs, any suggestions on how to get that kind of performance on my Nexus?
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youre probably just getting heat throttled or you are doing something wrong.
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Probably not what you want to hear but my suggestion is to stop caring so much about what numbers some app spews out and just look at how well your phone performs in day-to-day usage. If I somehow managed to get a score of 20K on my HD2, that wouldn't make it a better phone in any way.
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True, but it's just annoying to see that it used to give better results about a month ago and now they are pretty crappy. I mean, even after overclocking to 1700 I couldn't get it to go over 12k.
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youre probably just getting heat throttled or you are doing something wrong.
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It was just a little warm at the end of the test, not much, all the settings were default, and I had killed all the apps before running the test.
Try rasabear ROM.. Let the phone cool off and run it.. Should get 17+
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I was wondering why the LG G2 scored lower in pretty much every single GPU benchmark compared to other phones with the Snapdragon 800? Is it something related to the GRAM?
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I was wondering why the LG G2 scored lower in pretty much every single GPU benchmark compared to other phones with the Snapdragon 800? Is it something related to the GRAM?
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I believe LG has made less memory available to the GPU than others, i.e. Sony. There maybe a mod at some point to change the balance, as this is probably a kernel thing.
since we are on the subject of kernels... if anyone cares to chime in... or point me to the right direction..
I did some experimenting today with stock and woots kernel..diff govs, temps, settings, etc..
The best speeds out of antutu I could get was 28500 with woots kernel... But yet I see everywhere with these phones getting 30-35000+...
What am I missing?
I ended up using interactive for my gov, bumped up the temps to 90/100 just to get 28000+
Using stock kernel and woots kernel using stock settings and on multiple roms I could never break 27500+ mostly got in the 22000 range.. I would also wait 15 minutes per benchmark to ensure my phone was cool...
Using carbon rom + woots kernel with interactive goc and temps bumped 90/100 can I only get 28000+...
kinda feeling bamboozeled! Did antutu put out an update that makes these achieve less benchmark numbers?
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since we are on the subject of kernels... if anyone cares to chime in... or point me to the right direction..
I did some experimenting today with stock and woots kernel..diff govs, temps, settings, etc..
The best speeds out of antutu I could get was 28500 with woots kernel... But yet I see everywhere with these phones getting 30-35000+...
What am I missing?
I ended up using interactive for my gov, bumped up the temps to 90/100 just to get 28000+
Using stock kernel and woots kernel using stock settings and on multiple roms I could never break 27500+ mostly got in the 22000 range.. I would also wait 15 minutes per benchmark to ensure my phone was cool...
Using carbon rom + woots kernel with interactive goc and temps bumped 90/100 can I only get 28000+...
kinda feeling bamboozeled! Did antutu put out an update that makes these achieve less benchmark numbers?
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Huh are you running CM? if so that can be your problem... on my stock Telus G2 i get 35-36k antutu constantly. Any LG ROM gets me between 35-37k. With Woots kernel and stock frequencies for CPU and GPU (GPU overclock reduces benchmarks quite a lot) i still get between 35-37k for my phone
edit: just saw you are running carbon ROM... that is most likely the problem... I used another CM based ROM and could not go past 30k
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Huh are you running CM? if so that can be your problem... on my stock Telus G2 i get 35-36k antutu constantly. Any LG ROM gets me between 35-37k. With Woots kernel and stock frequencies for CPU and GPU (GPU overclock reduces benchmarks quite a lot) i still get between 35-37k for my phone
edit: just saw you are running carbon ROM... that is most likely the problem... I used another CM based ROM and could not go past 30k
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any stock lg roms you recommend, or do you mean flashing back to stock stock?
and thank you for the reply ! =D
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any stock lg roms you recommend, or do you mean flashing back to stock stock?
and thank you for the reply ! =D
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I'm running my stock stock rom :laugh: I've rooted it and removed a lot of bloatware. All other custom ROMs are similar IMHO. Same performance but with different themes and stuff.
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I'm running my stock stock rom :laugh: I've rooted it and removed a lot of bloatware. All other custom ROMs are similar IMHO. Same performance but with different themes and stuff.
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welll shiiiiieeeeeet. Will have to try a couple stock roms out and see whats up.. thank you again =D saved me lotsa hair pulling =]
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welll shiiiiieeeeeet. Will have to try a couple stock roms out and see whats up.. thank you again =D saved me lotsa hair pulling =]
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Haha no problem here's one of my scores i just got on Antutu
So my girlfriend just got a brand new g2 verizon, put antutu on it first thing, no roms, no updates, nodda.. got a 33,000 score. I just scored 30500 on my carbon rom with woots b2 verizon kernel intelliplug on, 90/100 temps, interactive gov, 1500 read ahead,
Seems like we are getting closer!!
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Was just reading up that antutu cant be trusted for the g2 for benchmarking.
Going to redo them with 3dmark on my gfs new stock phone and my rom'd phone and post up shortly..
It just means stock is the best
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Haha no problem here's one of my scores i just got on Antutu
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why im getting low benchmark in the stock G2 rom 33000 only then 31000 now 22000 .. is there a way to overclock ?
and amazing spider-man 2 lag on my G2
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why im getting low benchmark in the stock G2 rom 33000 only then 31000 now 22000 .. is there a way to overclock ?
and amazing spider-man 2 lag on my G2
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I guess you are running Kitkat on your G2 right?
Idk what they did with this Stupid KK Update because it made the Phone Significantly slower
I got over 36k Antutu Score on the unmodded Out of the Box JB 4.2.2 rom and the Phone was Extremely Snappy and everything ran Smooth
Now since i use KK Roms (Stock,Modded ones etc) I get Lags nearly Everywhere
Even with a OC to 2,8ghz only up to 29k Antutu scores Blablabla
UI Redraws are also present..
The most annoying thing is that i get lags especially in games (Real Racing 3 and even some 2D games)
My D802 doesnt gets Hot or something but it really makes me Mad
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I dont blame the Great Dev's i am sure LG messed up something
Skolotaie said:
I guess you are running Kitkat on your G2 right?
Idk what they did with this Stupid KK Update because it made the Phone Significantly slower
I got over 36k Antutu Score on the unmodded Out of the Box JB 4.2.2 rom and the Phone was Extremely Snappy and everything ran Smooth
Now since i use KK Roms (Stock,Modded ones etc) I get Lags nearly Everywhere
Even with a OC to 2,8ghz only up to 29k Antutu scores Blablabla
UI Redraws are also present..
The most annoying thing is that i get lags especially in games (Real Racing 3 and even some 2D games)
My D802 doesnt gets Hot or something but it really makes me Mad
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I dont blame the Great Dev's i am sure LG messed up something
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yes i'm running kitkat ... and now im using cloudyflex rom ... the camera is cool now .. slow motion , magic foucs and 2160p video
LG g2 D802 android 4.4.2
LG g2 D802 android 4.4.2
Hi guy,
My device is LG G2 Korean F320 which is correctly running on RR 5.8.3 ( Nougat 7.1.2 ) and my phone scores 50904 on Benchmark. What do you guy think about it?
Hey Guys,
ive tested my LG G2 with Stock KitKat on it with Antutu and 3DMark. The results was really OK.
31.000 points in Antutu and about 15.000 points in 3DMark.
Now im running PardusHD-Rom, by the way its an awesome Rom, runs really smooth, fast and stable.
But the Benching Results are really bad, i know that benching ist not the real, but im asking why this happens:
With the Pardus HD Rom and the integrated Kernel i get about 16000 points in Antutu and 12000 points in 3DMark.
Anyone know why this is and how it could be fixed?
The fix is to stop eating your time on benchmarks and use your device, their pointless and a waste of time
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I know what you mean, and the rom & kernel works fine but there must be a reason why for example in antutu the last scene runs with 35fps with this rom & kernel, and with more then 50fps with stock?!
I dont matter the result points, i just want to test if the apps and games are working fast like stock, with same fps.
Is there maybe another way to test that?
Hey Fellas,
i fugured out what the reason for the bad results is: The governor in the Kernel.
It was set to ondemand, this is why the rom&kernel worked fine but the results in benching apps wasnt good.
Tried it with governor setting hyper and a little oc and see there,
Now i know that everything is ok with soft and hardware, now i will go and deinstall the benching software and get back to ondemand.
2 Thumbs up for the PardusHD Rom and the D... Kernel that comes with it.