adb backup w/out root - Nexus 7 (2013) General

Anyone tried and confirmed working the old adb backup method that doesn't require root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
Was hoping to use this method to backup before unlocking. I got into the usual problem of not wanting to unlock right away (in case issues etc.) then once I was comfortable with the unit too lazy to want to set up all up again from scratch....

Use helium. Backup each app individually. There are some apps that will Bork restore.
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bummer screw that for a joke then LOL
it will be awhile before I unlock as I'm waiting for the next OTA to deal with the multitouch/gps etc. (hopefully!) I'm hoping it includes some firmware fixes too that we may not be able to flash like a normal ROM.

wintermute000 said:
it will be awhile before I unlock as I'm waiting for the next OTA to deal with the multitouch/gps etc. (hopefully!) I'm hoping it includes some firmware fixes too that we may not be able to flash like a normal ROM.
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Unlocking doesn't prevent you from getting the OTAs.
If you want root to be compatible with OTAs, see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339

yeah I know that, I know I can reflash stock recovery and unroot etc. just too lazy to be bothered setting up all my apps losing saves etc. at this point short of mucking around with carbon. TBH if the multitouch issue is fixed or at least toned down there's not a lot of incentive to root for me aside from adblock.
I've got a hunch that the next OTA will involve firmware etc. so just reluctant to tinker until the stock base is 100%. Its not directly applicable as its a Nexus but in the past some other components e.g. HTC hboot, Moto (forgot the name) would get in the way of OTA if you unlocked the BL early.

wintermute000 said:
yeah I know that, I know I can reflash stock recovery and unroot etc.
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My point is you don't need to unroot nor flash stock recovery (though it is safest to flash stock recovery)
The JSS15J OTA update will flash fine with root and twrp with just the small fix I referenced.
wintermute000 said:
I've got a hunch that the next OTA will involve firmware etc. so just reluctant to tinker until the stock base is 100%. Its not directly applicable as its a Nexus but in the past some other components e.g. HTC hboot, Moto (forgot the name) would get in the way of OTA if you unlocked the BL early.
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JSS15J already included firmware updates, it updated aboot, sbl, tz, and rpm. Bootloader went from 3.05 to 3.14 and it flashed ok with root and twrp (though again, personally I suggest using stock recovery)
Also you don't need to install twrp persistently to root. I just boot into twrp one-time by using fastboot boot twrp.img to install the root files and leave stock recovery on the tablet.
With the one simple fix referenced above, you can have stock recovery, root, and be totally compatible with future OTAs, no need to revert anything. Of course after the OTA is successful, just re-run the SuperSU zip and the fix to set yourself up with root and await the next OTA.
On this nexus, you need to unlock even to do the official factory restore google published. The official images don't come with signatures.

To answer the question re adb bu, yes it works just fine.
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Will custom recovery prevent ota updates?

First let me apologise if this is in the wrong section. I could not decide if this was the best place for it or q a&a. As the title sais. If i flash twrp will it prevent me from receiving ota updates from Google. I have an HTC sensation XE and if i flash a custom recovery i know from past experience that it prevents ota updates. This nexus 7 however is my first "Google" device you could call it and as such i do not know that.
Can any one inform me on this issue. Also if it will an ota cause loss of root on this nexus like it did on my smartphone or will it stay? If it is gone i suppose it will simply be a matter of using chainfires root tool again when it gets updated for it.
Thanks in advance.
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Q&A would be the best place for the post, but I can offer some insight. Any time you flash a custom rom you will forfeit the option of an ota update from your carrier or Google. This doesn't affect your play store apps as they will update when needed. The information that gets sent to your carrier identifies it as being non-official software so only a few custom ROMs that are well maintained will point the ota updates to its own servers. If you wish to receive official ota updates you should perform a nandroid backup of your stock rom to have a restore point for when a new release comes out. Aside from that, you would have to flash everything back to stock (probably stock recovery too) in order to be seen by the carrier as an eligible device.
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Who said anything about flashing a custom rom. I know i didn't. Sorry but that reply is no insight at all. I asked if flashing twrp a custom recovery would prevent ota updates like on my phone. Nothing else. I did not say one word about custom recovery.
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Ch3vr0n said:
Who said anything about flashing a custom rom. I know i didn't. Sorry but that reply is no insight at all. I asked if flashing twrp a custom recovery would prevent ota updates like on my phone. Nothing else. I did not say one word about custom recovery.
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If you install a custom recovery like twrp, you wouldn't be able to install an OTA from Google. You need stock recovery for OTAs.
now that's more of an answer i was hoping to get, can some other users confirm this? I suppose i'll lose root aswell but i imagine that would simply be a case of waiting for an updated root tool then. Say i do flash a recovery, does google have a page where you can manually download the update files to flash? But that would probably cause a lose of root as well but the custom recovery would remain intact, correct?
Ch3vr0n said:
now that's more of an answer i was hoping to get, can some other users confirm this? I suppose i'll lose root aswell but i imagine that would simply be a case of waiting for an updated root tool then. Say i do flash a recovery, does google have a page where you can manually download the update files to flash? But that would probably cause a lose of root as well but the custom recovery would remain intact, correct?
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This has already been brought up many times e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404833
I thought as much. I'll stick with stock recovery then until i need a custom recovery for some specific reason. For now root access is enough. And if an ota comes out and i lose recovery well I'll just wait for chainfire to update his root tool
i received the jss15j -> jsl36c update on my razorg with twrp recovery installed.
after the update stock recovery was back.
you can boot every recovery or kernel image without flashing it using fastboot:
fastboot boot nameofrecovery.img
I think you can have your cake and eat it too.
Instead of "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" to flash the custom recovery, you can "fastboot boot recovery.img".
Every time you want the custom recovery, use fastboot boot command on the pc. This way you can make nandroid backups and flash superSU to root. But, you will not be replacing the stock recovery.
I did this on my HTC phone, when I wanted to remain stock, rooted, yet able to receive OTA updates.
HowardZ said:
I think you can have your cake and eat it too.
Instead of "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" to flash the custom recovery, you can "fastboot boot recovery.img".
Every time you want the custom recovery, use fastboot boot command on the pc. This way you can make nandroid backups and flash superSU to root. But, you will not be replacing the stock recovery.
I did this on my HTC phone, when I wanted to remain stock, rooted, yet able to receive OTA updates.
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Good to know.
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I've taken OTAs using custom recoveries before on any number of devices. If you're not careful you can lose your recovery and have to reflash again, but sometimes you don't even lose that.
Well, there might be complications installing an OTA with custom recovery if it comes with a newer bootloader version/radio. Sometimes it works, but there were also reported problems.
Well i just had an ota update to jss15r and lost root as kinda expected. Now ill just have to find out if rerunning the root tool will be enough. Since it is already OEM unlocked i suppose i can simply modify that bat file and remove that line and run it again?

Issue updating to Android 5.0

I get this error while trying to attempt to update to the latest android 5.0 in twrp...
while installing the new zip file it says:
package expects build fingerprint of google/mantaray/manta: 4.4.4/ktu84p/1227136: user/release-keys or google/mantaray/manta:5.0/LRX21P/1570855:user/release-keys; this device has google/mantaray/manta:4.3/JWR66V/737497:user/release-keys
but my nexus 10 is already on 4.4.4
Your build.prop isn't standard, get the original one, or just use the factory image to update.
Rusty! said:
Your build.prop isn't standard, get the original one, or just use the factory image to update.
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what i need to install to correct his to the correct build.prop of 4.4.4?
ps. my last 4.4.4 was updated directly OTA..
Just download the 5.0 factory image, remove -w from the flash-all script and it will update you. Less dicking around that way.
inspiron41 said:
I get this error while trying to attempt to update to the latest android 5.0 in twrp...
while installing the new zip file it says:
package expects build fingerprint of google/mantaray/manta: 4.4.4/ktu84p/1227136: user/release-keys or google/mantaray/manta:5.0/LRX21P/1570855:user/release-keys; this device has google/mantaray/manta:4.3/JWR66V/737497:user/release-keys
but my nexus 10 is already on 4.4.4
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Exactly the same here when flashing OTA via TWRP.
The build.prop file hasn't been modified as far as I know.
Where/how to get the file please?
CBers said:
Exactly the same here when flashing OTA via TWRP.
The build.prop file hasn't been modified as far as I know.
Where/how to get the file please?
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I found the best way around this is to install the factory nexus 10 lollipop version. It's actually quite easy or even easier than the OTA method. Just make sure you delete the -w from the .bat file to keep all your data. It worked perfectly for me.
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inspiron41 said:
I found the best way around this is to install the factory nexus 10 lollipop version. It's actually quite easy or even easier than the OTA method. Just make sure you delete the -w from the .bat file to keep all your data. It worked perfectly for me.
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Thanks inspiron41 - I'll give it a go at the weekend.
Which file is the -w in please?
CBers said:
Thanks inspiron41 - I'll give it a go at the weekend.
Which file is the -w in please?
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Go to this website:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...riants-of-nexus-7-2012-and-2013-and-nexus-10/
It has detail instruction and jump down to step 3 regarding to -w
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I was having the same issue as the OP. So after reading this thread, I've performed the following:
Downloaded Android 5.0 factory image from: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Followed the instructions at this site, AND MADE SURE TO REMOVE '-w' AS INSTRUCTED, TO PRESERVE DATA: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...riants-of-nexus-7-2012-and-2013-and-nexus-10/
It was pretty easy. I've been waiting about 30 minutes looking at the boot graphic. Hope it turns out OK. But it is easier than playing with the OTA.
After being stuck in a bootloop, I had to factory reset and now all is well.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
After being stuck in a bootloop, I had to factory reset and now all is well.
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...i've been having the same issue since the 5.0.0 update.
I even had to perform a total wipe to get 5.0.0 onto my N10, and even after that I still have a bad signature on my tablet. Now the problem is back installing 5.0.2 OTA, and I do not want to wipe everything again. So please where is that build.prop file, and how do I fix it? or rather, what the eff has gone wrong here, why, and who's responsible for unbreaking it?
[Lemmy] said:
...i've been having the same issue since the 5.0.0 update.
I even had to perform a total wipe to get 5.0.0 onto my N10, and even after that I still have a bad signature on my tablet. Now the problem is back installing 5.0.2 OTA, and I do not want to wipe everything again. So please where is that build.prop file, and how do I fix it? or rather, what the eff has gone wrong here, why, and who's responsible for unbreaking it?
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Yea, I flashed the 5.0.1 factory image later. Now, I tried to flash the 5.0.2 OTA and it said it saw a 5.0.1 signature and was expecting 5.0.1, or something of that sort. It's basically the same issue all over again... No issues flashing 5.0.2 to my kids' N7s that are 100% stock.
My N10 is unlocked and rooted. There must be something in the customizations that cause this issue.
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Yea, I flashed the 5.0.1 factory image later. Now, I tried to flash the 5.0.2 OTA and it said it saw a 5.0.1 signature and was expecting 5.0.1, or something of that sort. It's basically the same issue all over again... No issues flashing 5.0.2 to my kids' N7s that are 100% stock.
My N10 is unlocked and rooted. There must be something in the customizations that cause this issue.
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and again, trying to flash the 5.1 OTA and it says there is a 4.4.2 signature so it wont install... but I have re-flashed the stock image several times by now. I just do not get it.
[Lemmy] said:
and again, trying to flash the 5.1 OTA and it says there is a 4.4.2 signature so it wont install... but I have re-flashed the stock image several times by now. I just do not get it.
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Why not just update using the 5.1 factory image? I run unlocked stock/rooted on my N10, and that's the method I always use to update. Would also do it this way on my N5 and now N6. Just fastboot flash all the images from the factory image manually (READ: EXCEPT USERDATA). You can also skip flashing the recovery if you run a custom recovery. However, for the sake of completion, I include flashing the stock recovery. Then I let it boot up normally. Then I'll boot back into the bootloader and flash TWRP and flash SuperSU. Updating this way is easier for me since I don't have to worry about the OTA failing due to customizations I may have made to the system (especially now with the new way Android updates after 5.0).
I've already had to upgrade my tablet by flashing stock for the last three upgrades, and every single time I ended up havnig to wipe the tablet clean and install and configure everything from scratch. I'm still hoping that at some point I wouldn't have to do that anymore...
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could this all be because my tablet is rooted and has CWM recovery installed?
[Lemmy] said:
I've already had to upgrade my tablet by flashing stock for the last three upgrades, and every single time I ended up havnig to wipe the tablet clean and install and configure everything from scratch. I'm still hoping that at some point I wouldn't have to do that anymore...
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could this all be because my tablet is rooted and has CWM recovery installed?
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That's weird. I can't remember the last time I had issues using the stock images, and most people seem to be okay doing it. How are you flashing it? I follow Method 2 from this OP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008. I just skip the command that flashes userdata, and it always works. I always flash the new cache image because when I would just erase it, it would be forever stuck in the bootanimation.
Before 5.0, being rooted didn't affect upgrading via OTA. Now, however, any little modification to the system (including being rooted) will cause the OTA to fail everytime. Also using a custom recovery like CWM will cause it to fail. So if you really want to go the OTA route, the least you would have to do is completely unroot (inside the SuperSU app itself) and flash the stock recovery. If you've uninstalled any system apps, you have to reinstall them or it will also fail.
charesa39 said:
That's weird. I can't remember the last time I had issues using the stock images, and most people seem to be okay doing it. How are you flashing it? I follow Method 2 from this OP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008. I just skip the command that flashes userdata, and it always works. I always flash the new cache image because when I would just erase it, it would be forever stuck in the bootanimation.
Before 5.0, being rooted didn't affect upgrading via OTA. Now, however, any little modification to the system (including being rooted) will cause the OTA to fail everytime. Also using a custom recovery like CWM will cause it to fail. So if you really want to go the OTA route, the least you would have to do is completely unroot (inside the SuperSU app itself) and flash the stock recovery. If you've uninstalled any system apps, you have to reinstall them or it will also fail.
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My N10 is with stock ROM 5.0.1 and stock recovery but rooted with unlocked bootloader (and custom launcher). I have two questions:
1) I can unroot it through SuperSU. Do I have to switch back to the stock launcher before trying the OTA installation of 5.1?
2) I remember last time I could gain root by simply installing SuperSU. After flashing the 5.1 factory image, can I still get root this same way, or do I have to install, for example, TWRP and then flash SuperSU?
Thanks!
mj56gt said:
My N10 is with stock ROM 5.0.1 and stock recovery but rooted with unlocked bootloader (and custom launcher). I have two questions:
1) I can unroot it through SuperSU. Do I have to switch back to the stock launcher before trying the OTA installation of 5.1?
2) I remember last time I could gain root by simply installing SuperSU. After flashing the 5.1 factory image, can I still get root this same way, or do I have to install, for example, TWRP and then flash SuperSU?
Thanks!
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1) No, you can keep whichever launcher you are using whether it be Trebuchet, Google Now Launcher, Nova, etc. since it's more of just an app and not a system mod.
2) As far as I know (or thought), you've always had to flash SuperSU using a custom recovery unless your ROM already came pre-rooted. In which case, all you would have to do is install SuperSU from the Play Store. But to answer your question, after flashing the factory image, you would have to flash a custom recovery like TWRP and then flash SuperSU using said custom recovery. However, that's not complicated at all. After flashing the factory image, it just takes like another 5 minutes to flash TWRP, boot into it, flash SuperSU, boot into the OS, verify root status, then power off, boot back into the bootloader and flash the stock recovery (if you don't want to keep the custom recovery). While you're at it, after flashing SuperSU, why not flash the Translucent Nav/Status Bar Mod found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771708 provided by @hanspampel. He's done a great service for us. It's the easiest and best mod for the stock N10 right now that restores the translucent decor that Google decided to disable on our device. I flashed it on my N10 after upgrading to 5.1 and it works flawlessly. But that's just a suggestion.
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1) No, you can keep whichever launcher you are using whether it be Trebuchet, Google Now Launcher, Nova, etc. since it's more of just an app and not a system mod.
2) As far as I know (or thought), you've always had to flash SuperSU using a custom recovery unless your ROM already came pre-rooted. In which case, all you would have to do is install SuperSU from the Play Store. But to answer your question, after flashing the factory image, you would have to flash a custom recovery like TWRP and then flash SuperSU using said custom recovery. However, that's not complicated at all. After flashing the factory image, it just takes like another 5 minutes to flash TWRP, boot into it, flash SuperSU, boot into the OS, verify root status, then power off, boot back into the bootloader and flash the stock recovery (if you don't want to keep the custom recovery). While you're at it, after flashing SuperSU, why not flash the Translucent Nav/Status Bar Mod found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771708 provided by @hanspampel. He's done a great service for us. It's the easiest and best mod for the stock N10 right now that restores the translucent decor that Google decided to disable on our device. I flashed it on my N10 after upgrading to 5.1 and it works flawlessly. But that's just a suggestion.
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Thanks a lot for the suggestions! Have a wonderful weekend...
Never mind

Unable to update after root

Hi
I am running on LMY47V, Version 5.1.1.
About 2 days ago i got an update of 20 MB which got downloaded into my device but failing to apply.
Whenever i Click the Restart and Install button the device gets restarted and goes into ClockworkMod Recovery v6.0.4.7 asking to fix the root access which is possibly lost . I tried both the options Yes and No then the device gets started with no update.
Then the same notification comes in asking me to Restart and Apply.
I have rooted and applied CM Recovery recently and this never happened to me before rooting.
It is normal that OTA updates do not work when rooted. There are a few workarounds, but they are not super easy (you can normally install the updates manually using adb-tools if I remember correctly).
adithyagem said:
About 2 days ago i got an update of 20 MB which got downloaded into my device but failing to apply.
I have rooted and applied CM Recovery recently and this never happened to me before rooting.
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Yeah, to use the OTA updates you need to be completely stock. Stock ROM, locked bootloader, no root and stock recovery.
theminikiller said:
Yeah, to use the OTA updates you need to be completely stock. Stock ROM, locked bootloader, no root and stock recovery.
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Bootloader does not have to be locked, but you are correct about everything else.
ariesgodofwar said:
Bootloader does not have to be locked, but you are correct about everything else.
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Oh, that's good to know.
I went through this over the weekend (flashing back to stock in order to get the OTA update).
I cannot say enough good things about this Nexus Root Toolkit by WugFresh: http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
Made it super simple for me to flash back to stock, get that OTA update, and then flash TWRP right back (so that I could enable 4G/LTE again).
Arson Smith said:
I went through this over the weekend (flashing back to stock in order to get the OTA update).
I cannot say enough good things about this Nexus Root Toolkit by WugFresh: http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
Made it super simple for me to flash back to stock, get that OTA update, and then flash TWRP right back (so that I could enable 4G/LTE again).
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I strongly recommend you learn how to use fastboot. You would not have had to flash back to stock to update. You could have flashed the system and boot images and been done with it. NRT is a good tool but you have much more flexibility if you understand what you're doing with fastboot.
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The Easy Way To Get The "Update"

I take no credit for any of this. Monkey saw, monkey did. MAKE SURE YOU FULLY READ THE ORIGINAL POSTS AS THE MONKEY MAY HAVE OMITTED SOMETHING. If you are clueless, not good at following instructions, or apprehensive you might want to pass. If you managed to already get unlocked and TWRPed, I imagine you are good to go. Still, if you break your phone, it's on you.
1. Do a TWRP backup.
2. Flash one of the choices here (READ THE ENTIRE THREAD) :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/development/rom-marshmallow-6-0-september-2016-t3536120
REBOOT.
I went with the Deodexed one. Check out the Mods too. I added Viper.
3. Get Systemless Root back using using the flash-able Script in Post #8 here (READ ALL 1st):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/systemless-root-info-t3373864
3a. Direct Link here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3809946&d=1468261256
REBOOT
I was still stock but Rooted with Xposed and I successfully Dirty Flashed. OP still recommends a CLEAN Install. After running the script, the phone came back looking the same. I did lose my custom Boot Animation and Viper so I re-flashed them. I also flashed the latest SU just to be sure i had the latest. Probably makes no difference.
Build now says MPHS24.49-18-8 and security Patch 09/01/2016.
Be sure and thank the OP's for the flash-able Update and the Systemless script.
THANK YOU OP'S,
Monkey
Except people have to understand... this puts you in a potentially precarious position. Your bootloader, radios, and partition table are all from a previous ROM version, but your system and boot/kernel are from the current release. Meaning your stuck on this or other custom ROMs and cannot go back to "pure" stock, at least until there is official full factory firmware release for the September update.
Not saying this isn't a valid way to do it, but it isn't truly getting the update... not completely, so my advice to others is proceed with caution and know the possible consequences, they may or not matter to you.
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...Meaning your stuck on this or other custom ROMs and cannot go back to "pure" stock, at least until there is official full factory firmware release for the September update.
Not saying this isn't a valid way to do it, but it isn't truly getting the update... not completely, so my advice to others is proceed with caution and know the possible consequences, they may or not matter to you.
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When you say "cannot go back" does something get flagged where a TWRP system wipe and restore of a backup would not work?
G_Man18 said:
When you say "cannot go back" does something get flagged where a TWRP system wipe and restore of a backup would not work?
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No... That's fine. I mean you can't flash the full system image via fastboot.
acejavelin said:
No... That's fine. I mean you can't flash the full system image via fastboot.
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Thanks for the quick response. I am surprised how many people get in trouble when TWRP backups are easy to do and can get you going when you screw up--which does happen to all of us. I post little but do read quite a bit in these forums; most of my questions have already been answered. You say you will nudge people in the right direction, but from what I have seen, no one on here answers as many questions so meticulously as you. Thanks!
acejavelin said:
Except people have to understand... this puts you in a potentially precarious position. Your bootloader, radios, and partition table are all from a previous ROM version, but your system and boot/kernel are from the current release. Meaning your stuck on this or other custom ROMs and cannot go back to "pure" stock, at least until there is official full factory firmware release for the September update.
Not saying this isn't a valid way to do it, but it isn't truly getting the update... not completely, so my advice to others is proceed with caution and know the possible consequences, they may or not matter to you.
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I just received the notification for this update, is it okay to take it, or is it going to cause issues. I am unlocked and rooted currently running MPHS24.49-18-4. I would restore back to a non-rooted TWRP backup of the same build, then flash back the original recovery image, clear cache and dalvik, and finally flash the update.
Will this work and is It okay to update to this build? Thanks.
robn30 said:
I just received the notification for this update, is it okay to take it, or is it going to cause issues. I am unlocked and rooted currently running MPHS24.49-18-4. I would restore back to a non-rooted TWRP backup of the same build, then flash back the original recovery image, clear cache and dalvik, and finally flash the update.
Will this work and is It okay to update to this build? Thanks.
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If you return to stock, meaning the /system and /boot partitions and recovery is stock, it should work... how you get there isn't as important. But you can't just "flash" the OTA zip file, not directly... and I am not positive if the stock recovery supports sideloading official ZIPs or not, but you should be able to accept it and let it apply itself. The lock or unlock state of the bootloader isn't relevant.
So most likely it would work fine... but backup first, just in case something goes wrong.
acejavelin said:
If you return to stock, meaning the /system and /boot partitions and recovery is stock, it should work... how you get there isn't as important. But you can't just "flash" the OTA zip file, not directly... and I am not positive if the stock recovery supports sideloading official ZIPs or not, but you should be able to accept it and let it apply itself. The lock or unlock state of the bootloader isn't relevant.
So most likely it would work fine... but backup first, just in case something goes wrong.
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Backup is running right now, so that will be good to go. With systemless root can I perform a full unroot using SuperSU or is it better to restore the unrooted TWRP backup? Thanks.
robn30 said:
Backup is running right now, so that will be good to go. With systemless root can I perform a full unroot using SuperSU or is it better to restore the unrooted TWRP backup? Thanks.
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If you are rooted, it means you did something with root, right? So unless you are going to undo everything root and then unroot, better to restore the pre-root backup
acejavelin said:
If you are rooted, it means you did something with root, right? So unless you are going to undo everything root and then unroot, better to restore the pre-root backup
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Very good, thanks for the advice. Good thing I made an unrooted backup when I updated to the May Security update. I knew that would come in handy eventually.
robn30 said:
Very good, thanks for the advice. Good thing I made an unrooted backup when I updated to the May Security update. I knew that would come in handy eventually.
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Update went perfectly smooth by restoring back to an unrooted 24.221.4 TWRP backup, then flashing stock recovery, and finally taking the update to 24.221.8. I did perform a wipe off cache and dalvik at least twice during the process.
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robn30 said:
Update went perfectly smooth by restoring back to an unrooted 24.221.4 TWRP backup, then flashing stock recovery, and finally taking the update to 24.221.8. I did perform a wipe off cache and dalvik at least twice during the process.
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Just to be sure. I ran TWRP from Fastboot in ADB as soon as Unlocked and turned the phone on. So you have confirmed I can then flash Stock recovery and take the "full" Update. Mind providing the link to Stock recovery?
Thanks.
schneid said:
Just to be sure. I ran TWRP from Fastboot in ADB as soon as Unlocked and turned the phone on. So you have confirmed I can then flash Stock recovery and take the "full" Update. Mind providing the link to Stock recovery?
Thanks.
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Pretty sure there is a post in here somewhere that has a link to the 24.221.4 recovery, but I just used the one in this full firmware download. Just extracted the recovery.img file only and flash it using fastboot. Here is the link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69103575&postcount=243

[OTA] Marshmallow Build MCG24.251-5-5

Here is the latest OTA. Verizon says it has security (*cough* Sunshine *cough*) patches. I can confirm that it does not re-lock an unlocked bootloader. It's so minor, they just decided to slap an extra -5 on it.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120733909
Do not take this if your bootloader is locked and you'd like to unlock it at some point. If you'd like to unlock it at some point, do it now! What are you waiting for?
You cannot flash this with TWRP.
TheSt33v said:
Do not take this if your bootloader is locked and you'd like to unlock it at some point.
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There, fixed it for you.
Gotta bold the important stuff.
ChazzMatt said:
There, fixed it for you.
Gotta bold the important stuff.
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You're inhibiting natural selection.
TheSt33v said:
Here is the latest OTA. Verizon says it has security (*cough* Sunshine *cough*) patches. I can confirm that it does not re-lock an unlocked bootloader. It's so minor, they just decided to slap an extra -5 on it.
https://mega.nz/#!70Zh1BbS!cC_mZ8xouLVwvMlOZLKW2UyC-JXDS7SdnCjxDoafXbI
Do not take this if your bootloader is locked and you'd like to unlock it at some point. If you'd like to unlock it at some point, do it now! What are you waiting for?
You cannot flash this with TWRP.
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hweew ... new kernel ...
could you upload it?
3Dota said:
hweew ... new kernel ...
could you upload it?
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TWRP flashable, including kernel, version will be up shortly.
TheSt33v said:
TWRP flashable, including kernel, version will be up shortly.
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Any modem updates?
koftheworld said:
Any modem updates?
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Yes. Will also be included in TWRP version.
Yee!
I'm already unlocked on Stock with Stock recovery, and tried taking the OTA, but got an error when it rebooted to install
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mustafu said:
I'm already unlocked on Stock with Stock recovery, and tried taking the OTA, but got an error when it rebooted to install
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Have you done any modifications at all? Even in the past? For example, if you were rooted and then unrooted, if any files were left over from that process, the update will fail. If you had xposed and removed it, same deal. Even if you replaced your emoji file with an updated one, that will also cause it to fail. Did you modify build.prop? Fail.
The only way to be sure that it will pass is to reflash MCG24.251-5 with fastboot before taking the OTA. Or you could always do it the easy way and flash MCG24.251-5-5 with TWRP: https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/rom-mcg24-251-5-5-100-stock-t3565795
I have a "system update paused, waiting for wi-fi" in the status bar. I don't want to take this update - can someone help me remove the notification, and block future updates? I have bl unlocked and rooted...
Tia
I'm running 24.81.5 and just received 24.91.5. Did not install. Unlocked and rooted. If I take this will it fail or cause issues?
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g0ndor said:
I have a "system update paused, waiting for wi-fi" in the status bar. I don't want to take this update - can someone help me remove the notification, and block future updates? I have bl unlocked and rooted...
Tia
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Install titanium backup and freeze the app called Motorola Update Services.
Shtiff1 said:
I'm running 24.81.5 and just received 24.91.5. Did not install. Unlocked and rooted. If I take this will it fail or cause issues?
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It will fail. Any modifications at all (like root or TWRP, for example) will cause the update to fail.
So I'm guessing it's for "security" issues. So I really don't need to take this, because it involves to much crap... Unrooting, cleaning cache, reflashing, having to do the phone over again, etc.... If that is all true, then how can I get rid of the system update?
g0ndor said:
I have a "system update paused, waiting for wi-fi" in the status bar. I don't want to take this update - can someone help me remove the notification, and block future updates? I have bl unlocked and rooted...
Tia
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Download "Disable Service" from the play store
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It will fail. Any modifications at all (like root or TWRP, for example) will cause the update to fail.
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I'm not aware of any modifications, I thought I went back to all stock. Recovery says qe 1/1, is it supposed to be 0/1?
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I'm not aware of any modifications, I thought I went back to all stock. Recovery says qe 1/1, is it supposed to be 0/1?
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If you look at the update script for the OTA, the first two thirds of it are dedicated to checking the system partition (and maybe other partitions. It's a pretty long read and I certainly haven't read all of it) for modifications. If the update is failing, that means it has detected something that does not match what it is checking for. I don't think the qe flag matters, because in the past I'm pretty sure that I've been at 1/1, and after a successful OTA it changes to 0/1.
trial TWRP or temp TWRP custom recovery
trial TWRP or temp TWRP custom recovery
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If you look at the update script for the OTA, the first two thirds of it are dedicated to checking the system partition (and maybe other partitions. It's a pretty long read and I certainly haven't read all of it) for modifications. If the update is failing, that means it has detected something that does not match what it is checking for. I don't think the qe flag matters, because in the past I'm pretty sure that I've been at 1/1, and after a successful OTA it changes to 0/1.
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Don't know if this would help someone install an update like this, but let me throw this out there. There's a way to boot to TWRP custom recovery and use TWRP without installing TWRP. Think of it as "temporary" TWRP.
Thus, you should still be able to flash stuff, including any TWRP-flashable updates, boot logos (to replace the unlocked bootloader warning, SuperSu, etc -- and when you reboot you still have stock recovery.
Now, I don't know why anyone would want to keep stock recovery when TWRP recovery does so much more... But I just recently helped someone with the same suggestion. He wanted to install SuperSu, get root, but keep stock recovery -- for some reason.
Anyway, think of it as "trial TWRP" or "temp TWRP".
I remembered when I made factory images for my Quark, in a variety of states, I used this temporary TWRP trick. I'd almost forgotten about it!
So, seems like you could flash THIS TWRP-flashable version of this update while temporarily booting to TWRP (but not actually installing it), and it wouldn't matter if everything "checked" out or not.
Of course, if you like it, then you can always install it permanently.
For reference, here's the most recent version of TWRP for our phone. (use the one with the most recent post date. @bhb27 updates it fairly often.)
TWRP FOR QUARK
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=39562
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Rahuld107 said:
@ChazzMatt,
Hi, can i root xt1225 using temporary twrp ( one time method). I don't need twrp/custom recovery. Just want root with stock recovery. I am on stock marshmallow, bootloader is unlocked .
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TEMPORARY TWRP
OK, here's another suggestion. There is a way to boot to TWRP to install SuperSu but NOT install TWRP. You will not be flashing TWRP over stock recovery. You will STILL have stock recovery when you reboot. Think of it as "temporary" TWRP.
Put the TWRP file in your ADB folder and use this command. Your phone will boot to TWRP, but it will not be permanently installed. You can then flash SuperSu while booted into the TWRP interface and then reboot back to your system.
fastboot boot file-name.img (whatever your file name of TWRP is.)
Whereas, the command to permanently install TWRP is this:
fastboot flash recovery file-name.img (whatever your file name of TWRP is.)
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Back when I first got this phone -- now over two years ago -- I made a bunch of backups in TWRP and posted the images online in various stages -- pure stock, stock + root, stock + root + TWRP. I made the first two with the "temporary" TWRP. People could flash them and already have root without having TWRP installed.
Moto Maxx - Moto Turbo XT1225 factory images (Mexico | Puerto Rico | India | Brazil)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/moto-maxx-moto-turbo-xt1225-factory-t3078274
1) TWRP BACKUPS which I made in various stages, such as
stock, unrooted
stock + rooted
stock + rooted + permanent TWRP
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See? Even just stock + rooted but with no TWRP. I made that backup with a "temporary" TWRP which did not overwrite the stock recovery.
But they were only for 4.4.4 Kitkat, which came with this phone. After we went to Lollipop, I posted some more images, but just pure factory. Still, the "temporary" TWRP trick is useful.
Is it just me or the Gallery app in 6.0.1 scrolls really slow? Btw i didnt do a clean update from LP in case that could be the reason

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