Idk if this is something new but I just noticed it while I'm at my wife's house she lives in a 2g area I'm able to talk and surf at the same time is this something new with 4.3 or has this always been able to happen? Anybody have this happen I thought u had to be on at least 3g to do that
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I'd like to know that too. I have mine for 2 months now and I never had a good time on edge/2g. Lucky me that I live and work where 3g is ok, but sometimes the signal just disappears and I remember that my last phone (a Lumia 800) did work its 2g at those areas. Even at 3g if I turn "use 2g only" it never seems to work.
BTW, I'm still on stock 4.2.2 w/Franco.
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I'm stock 4.3
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If I'm reading this (wikipedia entry) correctly, then it sounds like older cell phones were Class B GPRS devices (as this was the network available at the time, and a cheaper option than Class A). I believe Class B means the device can be connected to GSM (voice/SMS) and GPRS(data) services at the same time, but can only use 1 at a time.
Today's devices such as the Nexus 4 are considered Class A devices, whereby they can be connected to GSM and GPRS services at the same time, and use both simultaneously. This is when they are in 2G mode; in 3G+ mode, the 3GPP specs support DTM (reference above).
Here's the GPRS Class details in case your more interested - link to wikipedia
I also made a post recently about the Nexus 4 reverting to the 2G radio pretty quickly when 3G signal was lost, and how the 0.84 radio that comes with stock 4.3 seems to be more robust.
Have a good one!
I'm on 4.2.2 still stock and unrooted. I just noticed the same thing about a day or two ago when my wife called me. I just happened to look at my phone, i think to look at the time or something, and i noticed it still had the data connected while on the call. I was on H connection though. I didn't try to see if i can surf the web or something, maybe next time.
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It's always been like that. You're just now noticing
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I'm with t-mobile and i always have my connection on 3G but only when i use the internet shows h ans 2 bars. Can someone confirm if their nexus 4 does the same out is just that mine is defective
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The nexus 4 only switches to HSPA when you use the Internet, in order to save battery.
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The nexus 4 only switches to HSPA when you use the Internet, in order to save battery.
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Majorly annoying feature...it should at least give a 5 second window before switching back. Latency is ridiculous with the constant handover
Ditto bro, super annoying feature
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Sometimes, it doesn't switch to HSPA+ and the bar stays on 3G when I use the internet, but when it does I don't get any connection.
I don't get anything over "E" either when I force 2G in the settings.
Because of this, I only have access to T-Mobile 4G but nothing else. I would like to use their 3G or even edge when I am traveling in the rural areas and there is no HSPA+ available. Does anyone else have this problem?
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Majorly annoying feature...it should at least give a 5 second window before switching back. Latency is ridiculous with the constant handover
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Ditto bro, super annoying feature
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This is how the technology works.
Is there anything not complained about on this forum?
Would you guys boo Santa too?
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Shows H for me all the time, I'm on straight talk tmo though so that might have something to do with it.
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I don't get anything over "E" either when I force 2G in the settings.
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I don't get it? Why do you expect to get anything over E when you force 2G?
You realize Edge is 2G right?
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The nexus 4 only switches to HSPA when you use the Internet, in order to save battery.
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Or maybe its a tmobile thing to save bandwidth
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Or maybe its a tmobile thing to save bandwidth
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Happens on AT&T too.
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I don't get it? Why do you expect to get anything over E when you force 2G?
You realize Edge is 2G right?
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Its as a test to see if I will get data over anything but 4G, since 3G (UMTS:3) yields no connection whatsoever. And by forcing 2G (yes I know is edge, duh) I wanted to see if it was only a 3G issue. But obviously its not, since it doesn't get anything either. Not even 0.01 Mbps.
Btw forcing 2G gives me EDGE, thus showing an E symbol. That's why I expected to get something over E when I force 2G
EDIT: nvm, got speeds over 2G (E). 0.12 up, 0.06 down
3G still having issues
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Might be because u using a mvno carrier?
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Its as a test to see if I will get data over anything but 4G, since 3G (UMTS:3) yields no connection whatsoever. And by forcing 2G (yes I know is edge, duh) I wanted to see if it was only a 3G issue. But obviously its not, since it doesn't get anything either. Not even 0.01 Mbps.
Btw forcing 2G gives me EDGE, thus showing an E symbol. That's why I expected to get something over E when I force 2G
EDIT: nvm, got speeds over 2G (E). 0.12 up, 0.06 down
3G still having issues
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See your word choice can be taken two ways. By "over E" you meant data being transmitted. I took it as you were expecting something more than E.
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This is how the technology works.
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In that case they need to fix the technology. That's how it works you know...things get better by patching bugs and fixing anomalies. If it's causing unexpected negative outcomes to the user, it behooves the manufacturer to fix it. I'm not really sure why I even bother replying to you, if you can't figure out why things should be tweaked and settings changed, you're at the wrong site bro.
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In that case they need to fix the technology. That's how it works you know...things get better by patching bugs and fixing anomalies. If it's causing unexpected negative outcomes to the user, it behooves the manufacturer to fix it. I'm not really sure why I even bother replying to you, if you can't figure out why things should be tweaked and settings changed, you're at the wrong site bro.
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OK.... bro.
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i'm having issues with no connection for a long time when I open up a game or something. I'd have to wait about 5 seconds or longer for it to connect. Therefore, when I open a game such as Wordfeud, it will say error, no connection, pause, then open the game up. Is there any way to change this? I don't mind a hit on battery since I have an external I carry with me. Thank you in advance.
Would it be normal to bounce back and forth between all three, Edge, 3g and HSPA?
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Would it be normal to bounce back and forth between all three, Edge, 3g and HSPA?
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You must have really crappy signal then for it to be going between 2G and 3G. Between 3G and HSPA isn't a big deal because that's by design as was said. Having active connection to the towers only ties up the limited number of channels on a tower plus kills your battery faster. If everyone held open channels on the towers, calls would be failing since they had no channels to connect to. I think it's something like 256 channels per tower or something. That's why tower density is important in big cities.
I'm on AT&T MVNO though and my phone stays on H the whole time (not dropping back to 3G). I've had that issue with my SGS2 and newer radios for it but the older ones would always fall back to 3G. There is a momentary lag when the device renegotiates a channel with the tower but in general it shouldn't take that long, maybe 3-5 seconds from complete idle. There's a half-way stage called DCH (or is it ACH) where it can jump back to actively sending data in 1/2 second but it only stays that way if the timeout of 7 seconds doesn't expire (if the tower you are connected to support Fast Dormancy it does 7 seconds, if not i think it's 30 seconds).
Yeah, it looks like I've got really terrible signal strength at my house, but still manage to pull 5mb down. My signal strength is around 100 at best. The only time it was punting me down to 2g was when I was first activating, but that hasn't happened again. Maybe it was just a new setup type of issue, and like all of us, one little thing goes wrong and I think the sky is falling.
It's normal for it to switch from 3g to hspa
Hey guys, long time lurker infrequent poster. I recently got my nexus (loving it by the way) but there is 1 thing that I have noticed that kind of bugs me. Noticed everytime I'm connected to my data connection my signal bars go down considerably. (No data i get full bars 95%of the time, with hspa or hspa+ im lucky to get even 1) This will happen whether i disable my data in the settings, or connect to wifi.
I am kind of new to the whole unlocked device idea having to add the APN settings and what not, and I definitely did not have this problem with my last two devices. (Galaxy S i9000, Galaxy Nexus) if anyone has some insight that'd be great, I'm going to head down to my carrier store tomorrow, to see if they might be able to help me ( chances are probably not they're pretty useless)
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Hey guys, long time lurker infrequent poster. I recently got my nexus (loving it by the way) but there is 1 thing that I have noticed that kind of bugs me. Noticed everytime I'm connected to my data connection my signal bars go down considerably. (No data i get full bars 95%of the time, with hspa or hspa+ im lucky to get even 1) This will happen whether i disable my data in the settings, or connect to wifi.
I am kind of new to the whole unlocked device idea having to add the APN settings and what not, and I definitely did not have this problem with my last two devices. (Galaxy S i9000, Galaxy Nexus) if anyone has some insight that'd be great, I'm going to head down to my carrier store tomorrow, to see if they might be able to help me ( chances are probably not they're pretty useless)
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Are you using a new carrier, for you? T-mobile maybe? Are you indoors?
The nexus 4 generally has very good reception, unless their is so,ethi g wrong with the device.
If your a new t-mobile customer building penetration can be low compared to other carriers.
Outside, inside, happens everywhere. And I'm on Bell. Same plan, same carrier as my last two phones.
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I noticed some issues as well, but only on custom ROMs. My only conclusion is that it was something with the APN. I googled and found some APN settings to try, which has really helped me. For me, it was mostly with 3g to hspa switching, it'd toggle back and forth and would time data out. Since I've changed those, works much better. I'm on T-Mobile though.
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What exactly did you change? That sounds exactly like what happens to me.
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Why does my phone show full signal yet all apps that use mobile data either run shockingly slow or not at all!! My steam app is constantly reconnecting yet signal is constant! In BBS it's showing i have good signal for a matter of minutes and is mostly showing poor or unknown signal nearly the whole time the phone is on!
My set up is the latest AOKP rom and faux's kernel
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Why does my phone show full signal yet all apps that use mobile data either run shockingly slow or not at all!! My steam app is constantly reconnecting yet signal is constant! In BBS it's showing i have good signal for a matter of minutes and is mostly showing poor or unknown signal nearly the whole time the phone is on!
My set up is the latest AOKP rom and faux's kernel
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Could be you only have full bars of 2G data speed. You are either being throttled for excessive use from your carrier or your carrier only has 2G speeds where you live. Where I work the entire county only has 2G Edge speeds from AT&T even though their coverage map shows 3G for the area. Check your data type and speeds with an app like Network Signal info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.android.telnet&hl=en
Happens to me a lot as well. I show full 4g and yet everything times out and wont load because data is so slow. I'm also in a good coverage area where i get 12-14 Mbps speed with other phones and when this one is acting normal.
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The towers you are connecting to are probably overloaded. Thin of them as a wireless access point at your house with 1 internet line. If too many connect to and use that line, the connection gets slower. Would be nice if cell providers posted tower stats in your area. Would save a lot of angry calls
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The towers you are connecting to are probably overloaded. Thin of them as a wireless access point at your house with 1 internet line. If too many connect to and use that line, the connection gets slower. Would be nice if cell providers posted tower stats in your area. Would save a lot of angry calls
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I think in my situation it is not this. My wife has an HTC one s and my brother a sgs2 and they will have great data speed while i have dead slow even though we are on the same carrier and in the same room.
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Got the same problem
My pbone is acting wired showing full signal but no traffic gets through
Also sometimes the signal just greys out and i dont get any connection until switching flightmode and back
Im at aokp to... Maybe its relaxed to the rom
Im on Stock kernel
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Got the same problem
My pbone is acting wired showing full signal but no traffic gets through
Also sometimes the signal just greys out and i dont get any connection until switching flightmode and back
Im at aokp to... Maybe its relaxed to the rom
Im on Stock kernel
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Happened to me on stock, cm, aokp, and now pa. I don't know what it is. I just hope an update will fix it.
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Glad im not the only one suffering.. I didnt really have the problem on stock so much.. just since unlocking and flashing new roms.
To the person who mentioned carrier throttling, its certainly not that as one minute i'll get full speed and the next (youtube for example) will just stop and start saying no signal retry and then if i turn the phone off and back on again it will work. How can a carrier throttle you when you only have a 2Gb usage limit and then they charge you afterwards that makes no sense.
Also its not a 2G problem as Signal checker shows 3G and also now EE all around my area. Besides my wife's S3 on the same network is getting full speeds where im not or anything even though im apparently at full strength H
I hope this gets sorted soon as its also affecting calls.. I'll have what looks like full signal while playing a game then suddenly a text to say someone tried ringing me like 3 minutes before!!
probably switching from HSDPA to HSPA+.
did you notice a H on top of your signal bar, that switches to H+ when the lag is over?
I have had this problem for a long time, since I got my Galaxy Nexus and now again on my Nexus 4, and finally got so fed up that I have been testing it all day and getting screenshots ready to make my own post about this so I am pretty relieved to see this post!
I live in Philadelphia and use T-Mobile. I have had T-Mobile here for years and never had this problem before. When they upgraded to 3G I had amazing speed boosts and when they did HSPA+ it got even better but that was on a G1/G2. On my Nexus phones the internet is damn near unusable in center city but what is so odd about it is that in my Google searches about the problem I can only seem to find posts raving about T-Mobile in the city and how Philly keeps getting improvements including the new improved 1900Mhz HSPA+42 but I have never even seen my Nexus 4 on the +42 network the best it goes to is +15 and even that makes no difference because the internet is so slow and unrelaible that unless I am on Wifi, my phone just sits in my pocket useless.
I'm really at my wits end about this and no one, Google or T-Mobile seems to take responsibility or have any advice on how to fix it except the pointless factory reset.
I've seen a brief mention on XDA about a fast.tmobile.com APN and I changed to that and I'd like to imagine that it showed some type of improvements but certainly not with data speeds/latency/integrity of connection. If anything, it may have improved signal 'strength' (used lightly because regardless of what my strength is listed as the connection sucks.
To be clear, I am connected to HSPA and HSPA+ when the connection is being used, like it should, but these are the best speeds I managed to get throughout the day today as I moved around campus trying different spots.
Please, someone have advice!!
Could it be kennel related? Did you guys try just being on stock ROM?
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Could it be kennel related? Did you guys try just being on stock ROM?
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I am using the stock kernel, stock radio although not the stock ROM. I am pretty sure I had this problem before I rooted (I say pretty sure to be conservative with my answer since I am not 100% sure but I am definitely 90%)
Is anyone confident about their knowledge regarding APN settings? I have seen like 15 different configurations for T-Mobile's APN and have no idea which one to try and would prefer not to just go through them one by one -- I've got things to do!
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Could it be kennel related? Did you guys try just being on stock ROM?
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Again.. I'm pretty sure i didn't have this problem while on stock but i could be wrong. My GNex was exactly the same. And I'm on orange UK so completely different network to the T-Mobile USA so surely can't be random that we're both having the same problems
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I had the same slowness over cellular, 9kbps or so. I changed APN's, rebooted and just got 2463kbps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1791526
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I had the same slowness over cellular, 9kbps or so. I changed APN's, rebooted and just got 2463kbps.
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Will this only work for at&t users though?
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I'm on stock 4.2.1. Phone is rooted and boot loader unlocked. For about two days now I'm having signal drops from 4bars, then greyed out 4 bars and jumps between H to 3G. Settings for LTE revert to WCDMA every time I lose reception. Also dialer crashes/ force closes if I have an incoming call and sends all calls to voicemail. I can dial out but at the end of my calls when I go to hang up I see the popup that phone process crashed.
My carrier is Bell Canada and the phone worked fine for about 10 days before this started happening.
Any tips or advice to help me out is appreciated. Thanks.
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Has anyone on T-Mobile been able to do this at full download speeds? If I Wi-Fi tether my N4 to my laptop or old HTC Vivid, I have no problems. When I tether it to my N10, speed drops to around 500K, regardless of the area I'm in (H, H+, G4). The same thing happens when tethering via bluetooth. Since the N10 had no problem with full bandwidth on my home network via Wi-Fi, I can figure out why the two Nexus devices don't cooperate. They're both running JB 4.2.2 (AOKP M2). Any ideas?
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i have the same problem. i also have a nexus 4 on tmobile and it switches from H+ to H to E and rotates between them and i cant even load a youtube video
It might just be you and me, buddy, cuz I been searching for days and can't find anyone else who has this problem, much less a fix. T-Mobile support finally threw their hands up, basically saying, since they don't carry the N10, good luck with your search. Lol.
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Does anyone have a problem with their signal strength....mine will show 4g in an LTE area....it will switch back and forth from LTE to 4g constantly...sometimes the signal strength would be so low, that web pages wont even open for a min or two....I am using a sim adapter to use my sim card from my iphone 5, instead of using the new sim....I switch back and forth between my iphone and note, so I don't want to use another sim...does that cause problems?
Are you in Australia?
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My note 3's signal is stronger than original note.
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I was getting great 4G connection before this last update and now it's using the highest signal like 2g most of the time.
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Mine is rubbish
Well the actual signal strength is fine when its working, but it has real trouble re-connecting to my network (3, UK) after going out of range.
It sits on the 'emergency calls only' mode for ages, and requires a reboot, after which it immediately connects to my correct network.
Its made slightly better by manually selecting '3' as the network operator, but I have to reboot several times a day to keep connected.
Im planning on going to Car Phone Warehouse tomorrow for a chat about it...
George
ripnetuk: Just as a suggestion:
My NexusS tends to not to reestablish the data connection after a weak signal period. I can fix that by switching to airplane mode and back. (Rebooting takes ages with that phone).
Hi,
Id established that sometimes putting airplane mode on and off fixes it, but it often didnt. A reboot /always/ reconnected to the three network.
I took it back today, and Carphonewarehouse swapped it for a new unit, no questions asked, so im gonna give it a go for a while before thinking its fixed.
I did get my highest ever speed test result with the new phone tho - over 15 megs... ive never seen over 12 before, so hopefully its got a good antenna on it
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Swapped for another unit and it's all working properly now so it was a lemon device causing it..
Phew!
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I compared reception and signal between my Note 3 and HTC ONE in Hong Kong. I found that the HTC ONE and the older LTE Model of the Note 2 got better reception/signal when compared to my new Samsung Note 3
How long did you have your phone before you changed it for a new one?
I am having the same problem as well, also having camera troubles as well... Sounds like I have a lemon as well..
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about 15 days...
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