Aaaargh fecking signal!! - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Why does my phone show full signal yet all apps that use mobile data either run shockingly slow or not at all!! My steam app is constantly reconnecting yet signal is constant! In BBS it's showing i have good signal for a matter of minutes and is mostly showing poor or unknown signal nearly the whole time the phone is on!
My set up is the latest AOKP rom and faux's kernel
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nuclearmonkeyuk said:
Why does my phone show full signal yet all apps that use mobile data either run shockingly slow or not at all!! My steam app is constantly reconnecting yet signal is constant! In BBS it's showing i have good signal for a matter of minutes and is mostly showing poor or unknown signal nearly the whole time the phone is on!
My set up is the latest AOKP rom and faux's kernel
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Could be you only have full bars of 2G data speed. You are either being throttled for excessive use from your carrier or your carrier only has 2G speeds where you live. Where I work the entire county only has 2G Edge speeds from AT&T even though their coverage map shows 3G for the area. Check your data type and speeds with an app like Network Signal info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.android.telnet&hl=en

Happens to me a lot as well. I show full 4g and yet everything times out and wont load because data is so slow. I'm also in a good coverage area where i get 12-14 Mbps speed with other phones and when this one is acting normal.
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The towers you are connecting to are probably overloaded. Thin of them as a wireless access point at your house with 1 internet line. If too many connect to and use that line, the connection gets slower. Would be nice if cell providers posted tower stats in your area. Would save a lot of angry calls

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The towers you are connecting to are probably overloaded. Thin of them as a wireless access point at your house with 1 internet line. If too many connect to and use that line, the connection gets slower. Would be nice if cell providers posted tower stats in your area. Would save a lot of angry calls
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I think in my situation it is not this. My wife has an HTC one s and my brother a sgs2 and they will have great data speed while i have dead slow even though we are on the same carrier and in the same room.
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Got the same problem
My pbone is acting wired showing full signal but no traffic gets through
Also sometimes the signal just greys out and i dont get any connection until switching flightmode and back
Im at aokp to... Maybe its relaxed to the rom
Im on Stock kernel
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MoooN said:
Got the same problem
My pbone is acting wired showing full signal but no traffic gets through
Also sometimes the signal just greys out and i dont get any connection until switching flightmode and back
Im at aokp to... Maybe its relaxed to the rom
Im on Stock kernel
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Happened to me on stock, cm, aokp, and now pa. I don't know what it is. I just hope an update will fix it.
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Glad im not the only one suffering.. I didnt really have the problem on stock so much.. just since unlocking and flashing new roms.
To the person who mentioned carrier throttling, its certainly not that as one minute i'll get full speed and the next (youtube for example) will just stop and start saying no signal retry and then if i turn the phone off and back on again it will work. How can a carrier throttle you when you only have a 2Gb usage limit and then they charge you afterwards that makes no sense.
Also its not a 2G problem as Signal checker shows 3G and also now EE all around my area. Besides my wife's S3 on the same network is getting full speeds where im not or anything even though im apparently at full strength H
I hope this gets sorted soon as its also affecting calls.. I'll have what looks like full signal while playing a game then suddenly a text to say someone tried ringing me like 3 minutes before!!

probably switching from HSDPA to HSPA+.
did you notice a H on top of your signal bar, that switches to H+ when the lag is over?

I have had this problem for a long time, since I got my Galaxy Nexus and now again on my Nexus 4, and finally got so fed up that I have been testing it all day and getting screenshots ready to make my own post about this so I am pretty relieved to see this post!
I live in Philadelphia and use T-Mobile. I have had T-Mobile here for years and never had this problem before. When they upgraded to 3G I had amazing speed boosts and when they did HSPA+ it got even better but that was on a G1/G2. On my Nexus phones the internet is damn near unusable in center city but what is so odd about it is that in my Google searches about the problem I can only seem to find posts raving about T-Mobile in the city and how Philly keeps getting improvements including the new improved 1900Mhz HSPA+42 but I have never even seen my Nexus 4 on the +42 network the best it goes to is +15 and even that makes no difference because the internet is so slow and unrelaible that unless I am on Wifi, my phone just sits in my pocket useless.
I'm really at my wits end about this and no one, Google or T-Mobile seems to take responsibility or have any advice on how to fix it except the pointless factory reset.
I've seen a brief mention on XDA about a fast.tmobile.com APN and I changed to that and I'd like to imagine that it showed some type of improvements but certainly not with data speeds/latency/integrity of connection. If anything, it may have improved signal 'strength' (used lightly because regardless of what my strength is listed as the connection sucks.
To be clear, I am connected to HSPA and HSPA+ when the connection is being used, like it should, but these are the best speeds I managed to get throughout the day today as I moved around campus trying different spots.
Please, someone have advice!!

Could it be kennel related? Did you guys try just being on stock ROM?
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Could it be kennel related? Did you guys try just being on stock ROM?
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I am using the stock kernel, stock radio although not the stock ROM. I am pretty sure I had this problem before I rooted (I say pretty sure to be conservative with my answer since I am not 100% sure but I am definitely 90%)
Is anyone confident about their knowledge regarding APN settings? I have seen like 15 different configurations for T-Mobile's APN and have no idea which one to try and would prefer not to just go through them one by one -- I've got things to do!

ftarules said:
Could it be kennel related? Did you guys try just being on stock ROM?
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Again.. I'm pretty sure i didn't have this problem while on stock but i could be wrong. My GNex was exactly the same. And I'm on orange UK so completely different network to the T-Mobile USA so surely can't be random that we're both having the same problems
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I had the same slowness over cellular, 9kbps or so. I changed APN's, rebooted and just got 2463kbps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1791526

drdjr said:
I had the same slowness over cellular, 9kbps or so. I changed APN's, rebooted and just got 2463kbps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1791526
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Will this only work for at&t users though?
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I'm on stock 4.2.1. Phone is rooted and boot loader unlocked. For about two days now I'm having signal drops from 4bars, then greyed out 4 bars and jumps between H to 3G. Settings for LTE revert to WCDMA every time I lose reception. Also dialer crashes/ force closes if I have an incoming call and sends all calls to voicemail. I can dial out but at the end of my calls when I go to hang up I see the popup that phone process crashed.
My carrier is Bell Canada and the phone worked fine for about 10 days before this started happening.
Any tips or advice to help me out is appreciated. Thanks.
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3g service issues in my area!

Ok so for some reason lately my 3g service seems to be really really slow or not working at all. Gives error when going to the market or using the web.says no service accessible.please try again. What the hell is going on? I live in the renton/kent Washington area. And no I have not reached 5gb cap yet.my month just started. Some times it works and gives me up to 4mb to 6mb speeds if I go to a friends house. But wont work 90% of the time in my area. Use to work great. But now it sucks balls! Thanks for any ideas!
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If you have had good 3g up until now, call TMo. If it is not a currently known service issue, have them open a service ticket. They did it for me (although edge was working) and I was back in business in about 4 days, and they even called me back to make sure everything was cool.
Yea already called them.told me I should upgrade to the Myslide 4g. Lol I just got the Vibrant. Also told me it should be working fine.made a trouble ticket but that was last week.still having major issues with 3g service. Stupid thing is they told me if I added the $15 extra tethering plain.my 3g would be faster.what a load of crap! Lol
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you're not alone, my 3g is gone too though i have a good reception here in my place in the past.
Just ran the Speedtest.net App and only got 0.15kb download speed but got 1.75mg upload speed. That doesn't seem right to me!
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what rom are you running?
i think the vibrant has weak reception in general, mine is always switching between 3g and edge everywhere where my tp2 could hold a 3g connection and sometimes my vibrant will search for a signal where my tp2 would have at least edge.
also the wifi bars will go to 1 or 0 on the vibrant when i am one room over from my router but my tp2 and bb bold will have full bars.
maybe this is caused by the battery saving algorithm?
happened to me the other day in myrtle beach for like 15 minutes i had like crappy 100 kbps download and like 2 mbits upload.
i think some ****er is just hogging all the bandwidth from the tower you are on.
sorry if we cant cuss im new.
Running just the offical ROM with JI6 update. Also Rooted. Starting to get pissed off here.plus GPS is non working taking like 10mins to even find me.and its jumping all over the place on google maps! WTF!! ;(
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I came from the G1 and I noticed the Vibrant doesn't get nearly as good of reception. It was a pretty rare thing to ever be on anything but 3G with the G1 but the Vibrant spends quite a bit of time on Edge. Same locations...
For what it is worth the JK2 modem has given me the best overall performance/battery life. Could be worth a try putting a JK2 ROM on there if you haven't already. But yeah the Vibrant overall doesn't get as good of signal as some other phones.
I've been having reception issues since T-mobile announced Louisvile was live with 4G. getting similar errors saying no service accessible.please try again. or it will just say network error.
Ok so I just installed the lag fix from the market and I got to say wow. Phone is lighting fast and gps seems to be better and 3g. Almost like a new device! Crazy
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you sure the lagfix fixed it? can you run a speedtest?
Yeah all same here. 3g issues for 3 days now, speed test was 67 kbs. Usually 4000 + Idk what's happening but its good to know I'm not alone. This is pissing me off.
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Yea ran new speedtest and got like 1.12mg but probably would be faster if the weather wasn't so crappy outside 60 mph winds!
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Ok just ran the speedtest app again and got 1.98mg download and 2.65mg upload speeds.so seems faster with the lag fix. And gps seems to work better too.
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Also got Quadrant Standard score of 2096 instead of the normal 890! Wow what a difference!
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It won't work that well around the area of Kent, East Hill area.
I am experiencing the same matter as you, and live in about the same area.
From my observation, general east hill area has bad 3G,data packet connection.
I've been having the same problems as u guys. I live in philly, and 3g had always been pretty good. I called tmo and got to upper level tech support, and they said out might be a network merging issue (whatever the hell that is). So, I starting playing around with the settings and I found a short term fix for me. Do this only if u know u have 3g signal, go to wireless and network, then network mode and click wcdma. if u go into edge area u will lose signal completely.
ultraman69 said:
i think the vibrant has weak reception in general, mine is always switching between 3g and edge everywhere where my tp2 could hold a 3g connection and sometimes my vibrant will search for a signal where my tp2 would have at least edge.
also the wifi bars will go to 1 or 0 on the vibrant when i am one room over from my router but my tp2 and bb bold will have full bars.
maybe this is caused by the battery saving algorithm?
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Dude I think you should replace your phone
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Whats up with Tmo network ?

Both of my phones cycle from 3G to EDGE to weak signal.....this is MA in full 3G area
1- Different Modem or Kernel
2- Change ROMS
3- Your phone sucks bawls.
either of those.
xriderx66 said:
1- Different Modem or Kernel
2- Change ROMS
3- Your phone sucks bawls.
either of those.
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I have 2 different phones and it started about 30-40 minutes ago on both
kolyan said:
I have 2 different phones and it started about 30-40 minutes ago on both
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Are both Phones running the same rom, same modems etc?
If yes, then its probably a network issue from TMO themselves, and you should call them to ask them if anything is going on, and if nothing is, they'll either:
1) give you instructions on how to get better signal
2) give you a little modem thing for better signal that you connect on your PC.
i have the little modem thing, its like a little cell tower i was part of the BETA program.
interesting seeing this thread because bout an hour ago I lost my data connection and camt get it back. not this first time this has happened. l
Then for sure its a TMO problem, not yours.
Call them up, ask them whats going on, and get a answer.
It's perfect here in Texas for me.
I had the same problem too, but i went to mobile network via settings and switch network mode to gsm instead of gsm/wdmca or something like that. worked for me.
looks like they fixed it now.....now get all bars
At around 9-10 est I had the same problem. I had full bars but the data was slowed. Its better now though. Maybe some work being done?
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Here the past few days, my data, which is usually around or about 2-3mb down and .6mb up has been at 5.8-6mb down and 1.5-3mb up
I have to set my network settings to wdcma only to avoid constantly switching to edge. I only switch to auto mode when im traveling.
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Here in Puerto Rico it has been hell on all of my family phones.Starting with call not wanting to go out,many times i get a message saying all circuits are busy.And then something incredibly weird,i call some one and all you hear is like a bunch of sound like they are from an old PC dial up modem but not quite in that patter and fast and you hear like some one is breathing at the same time.
Like some estrange sounds use in movies to simulate Alien voices or some sh** like that,i tough it was my phone,i am running Toxic Fire,but my wise have also heard it and his Vibrant isn't rooted and doesn't have any custom rom,and also my friend which is on AT&T hear it when i call it a few days ago.
And yes Data rates had been to low at times.
Im in florida and had some bad reception issues from like 5pmest Friday till 12pmest Saturday. Don't know if its related or not.
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That happened to me three times last week and this week. I had to wipe davike.
kolyan said:
Both of my phones cycle from 3G to EDGE to weak signal.....this is MA in full 3G area
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I'm in mass too, 3g just sucks here they need more towers
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kcp877 said:
I'm in mass too, 3g just sucks here they need more towers
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Its spotty. 3g is fast where I live in Framingham, but I noticed in other areas in Framingham 3g is as slow as EDGE, and some places in Newton and Brookline only have EDGE.....I mean its 4G era and we should have almost 100% 3G coverage by now. I dont see the point moving on to 4G, I would be MUCH more happy with full 3G in MA
It happened to me a few times this week (DC Area) and I thought there was something wrong with my phone. After rebooting my phone for a few times, and playing with network mode, and lastly checking my wife's BB, I realized it must have been T-mobile network.
I've had this problem for a while and finally after numerous calls to T-Mo i figured it out.
I live inbetween a crappy Edge tower apparently in the boonie area about a mile away, and also a 3g tower about the same distance in the other direction in civilization.
It constantly switches on me when i'm at home to whatever it feels like, usually edge... I think just to get under my skin on purpose.
When i finally realized that I went to settings - wireless and network - Mobile networks - Network mode - then put it on WCDMA only. Boom 3g all day.
If you happen to go into an area and you lose service, do the same thing, but instead of selecting WCDMA only, put it on auto and you will be able to use edge service as well again.

Losing signal on my Nexus S

Hey everyone,
I just bought a refurbished Nexus S for $200. I thought it was a pretty good deal. Loving the phone so far. However, last night I lost data services. The signal bars which is normally green was "greyed" out. I tried the web browser, twitter and nothing was working. Eventually I got data back in about 30 mins or so. I didn't think anything of it. Well, it happened again today. Signal bars were greyed out again. I have less than 14 days to return/exchange my device. Should I exchange it? Is this a known issue with the Nexus S? Just an FYI, I have 2 lines and data is working fine on my BlackBerry.
I'm running stock OS, 2.3.6
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Hate to break it to you but one of the few bad things about this phone is its reception. Check what radio version. Your on. If it doesn't say ke1, go on peter alfonsos web site and download the ke1 radio and flash it through cwm. See if that helps.
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I'm assuming that requires me to root the phone? So if I choose not to root my phone I'm going to have this ongoing issue?
rooting and installing this radio won't necessarily help. I have the I9020A with the newest radio and i do have this problem sometimes - I'm losing signal and it recovers in random time. the weirdest thing is that I can find my network when I'm searching manually for networks. You are on rogers (based on your avatar), so i can only guess we have the same model. My brother has the I9020A also, and he has similar yet different problem - when he lost signal due to no reception areas, he has to go into airplane mode and back to normal to recover the signal. he also has the newest radio (UCKF).
You should also notice that rooting your phone will make you lose your warranty, and i guess that also the the right to exchange it.
Yes the model I have is the same as your brother's. I know in general Samsung has bad radios. Is it because it's made by Samsung or is it particular to the Nexus S? I have been reading the same issues with the Galaxy Nexus, so I'm guessing it's Samsung.
I don't plan on rooting it because I know it will void the warranty and I won't be able to return/exchange it.
i have same case , which is , when i am back in my room ,away from streets and lots walls for signal to go through , 3G signal is **** , however, you can switch it to 2G signal in order to no to miss any phone calls and SMSs. but , you Internet speed will greatly reduced ... like max 8 kb/s
RushAOZ said:
Hate to break it to you but one of the few bad things about this phone is its reception. Check what radio version. Your on. If it doesn't say ke1, go on peter alfonsos web site and download the ke1 radio and flash it through cwm. See if that helps.
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how can you recommended a radio for a NS4G when you don't even know what phone he/she has ........
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Rem3Dy said:
how can you recommended a radio for a NS4G when you don't even know what phone he/she has ........
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I'm a she and I have the I9020A.
qtwrk said:
i have same case , which is , when i am back in my room ,away from streets and lots walls for signal to go through , 3G signal is **** , however, you can switch it to 2G signal in order to no to miss any phone calls and SMSs. but , you Internet speed will greatly reduced ... like max 8 kb/s
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You should see if your phone is set to wcdma/gsm mode. My room is a inner room also and when it loses 3g signal, it jumps automatically to gsm mode (internet speed is not an issue, WI-FI FTW ).
Rem3Dy said:
how can you recommended a radio for a NS4G when you don't even know what phone he/she has ........
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Well I do have an ns4g and since these forums aren't seperated by model its easy to see why I would make the wrong recommendation. What are you following me around? Instead of being a troll why don't you post something useful and try and help the op bud.
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What Radio do you currently have?
I usually had this problem and I had to go into mobile network settings, uncheck 'Data Enabled' and select 'Network Operators' until it found my carrier.
Have you tried checking the Airplane mode and disabling again?
If you dial *#*#4636#*#* when this happens and you go into phone information, do you see it connected?

n4 Switching from 3G to HSDPA

I'm with t-mobile and i always have my connection on 3G but only when i use the internet shows h ans 2 bars. Can someone confirm if their nexus 4 does the same out is just that mine is defective
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The nexus 4 only switches to HSPA when you use the Internet, in order to save battery.
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The nexus 4 only switches to HSPA when you use the Internet, in order to save battery.
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Majorly annoying feature...it should at least give a 5 second window before switching back. Latency is ridiculous with the constant handover
Ditto bro, super annoying feature
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Sometimes, it doesn't switch to HSPA+ and the bar stays on 3G when I use the internet, but when it does I don't get any connection.
I don't get anything over "E" either when I force 2G in the settings.
Because of this, I only have access to T-Mobile 4G but nothing else. I would like to use their 3G or even edge when I am traveling in the rural areas and there is no HSPA+ available. Does anyone else have this problem?
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quentin0 said:
Majorly annoying feature...it should at least give a 5 second window before switching back. Latency is ridiculous with the constant handover
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Ditto bro, super annoying feature
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This is how the technology works.
Is there anything not complained about on this forum?
Would you guys boo Santa too?
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Shows H for me all the time, I'm on straight talk tmo though so that might have something to do with it.
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I don't get anything over "E" either when I force 2G in the settings.
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I don't get it? Why do you expect to get anything over E when you force 2G?
You realize Edge is 2G right?
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thacked said:
The nexus 4 only switches to HSPA when you use the Internet, in order to save battery.
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Or maybe its a tmobile thing to save bandwidth
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Or maybe its a tmobile thing to save bandwidth
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Happens on AT&T too.
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joshnichols189 said:
I don't get it? Why do you expect to get anything over E when you force 2G?
You realize Edge is 2G right?
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Its as a test to see if I will get data over anything but 4G, since 3G (UMTS:3) yields no connection whatsoever. And by forcing 2G (yes I know is edge, duh) I wanted to see if it was only a 3G issue. But obviously its not, since it doesn't get anything either. Not even 0.01 Mbps.
Btw forcing 2G gives me EDGE, thus showing an E symbol. That's why I expected to get something over E when I force 2G
EDIT: nvm, got speeds over 2G (E). 0.12 up, 0.06 down
3G still having issues
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Might be because u using a mvno carrier?
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gagdude said:
Its as a test to see if I will get data over anything but 4G, since 3G (UMTS:3) yields no connection whatsoever. And by forcing 2G (yes I know is edge, duh) I wanted to see if it was only a 3G issue. But obviously its not, since it doesn't get anything either. Not even 0.01 Mbps.
Btw forcing 2G gives me EDGE, thus showing an E symbol. That's why I expected to get something over E when I force 2G
EDIT: nvm, got speeds over 2G (E). 0.12 up, 0.06 down
3G still having issues
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See your word choice can be taken two ways. By "over E" you meant data being transmitted. I took it as you were expecting something more than E.
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El Daddy said:
This is how the technology works.
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In that case they need to fix the technology. That's how it works you know...things get better by patching bugs and fixing anomalies. If it's causing unexpected negative outcomes to the user, it behooves the manufacturer to fix it. I'm not really sure why I even bother replying to you, if you can't figure out why things should be tweaked and settings changed, you're at the wrong site bro.
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In that case they need to fix the technology. That's how it works you know...things get better by patching bugs and fixing anomalies. If it's causing unexpected negative outcomes to the user, it behooves the manufacturer to fix it. I'm not really sure why I even bother replying to you, if you can't figure out why things should be tweaked and settings changed, you're at the wrong site bro.
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OK.... bro.
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i'm having issues with no connection for a long time when I open up a game or something. I'd have to wait about 5 seconds or longer for it to connect. Therefore, when I open a game such as Wordfeud, it will say error, no connection, pause, then open the game up. Is there any way to change this? I don't mind a hit on battery since I have an external I carry with me. Thank you in advance.
Would it be normal to bounce back and forth between all three, Edge, 3g and HSPA?
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Would it be normal to bounce back and forth between all three, Edge, 3g and HSPA?
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You must have really crappy signal then for it to be going between 2G and 3G. Between 3G and HSPA isn't a big deal because that's by design as was said. Having active connection to the towers only ties up the limited number of channels on a tower plus kills your battery faster. If everyone held open channels on the towers, calls would be failing since they had no channels to connect to. I think it's something like 256 channels per tower or something. That's why tower density is important in big cities.
I'm on AT&T MVNO though and my phone stays on H the whole time (not dropping back to 3G). I've had that issue with my SGS2 and newer radios for it but the older ones would always fall back to 3G. There is a momentary lag when the device renegotiates a channel with the tower but in general it shouldn't take that long, maybe 3-5 seconds from complete idle. There's a half-way stage called DCH (or is it ACH) where it can jump back to actively sending data in 1/2 second but it only stays that way if the timeout of 7 seconds doesn't expire (if the tower you are connected to support Fast Dormancy it does 7 seconds, if not i think it's 30 seconds).
Yeah, it looks like I've got really terrible signal strength at my house, but still manage to pull 5mb down. My signal strength is around 100 at best. The only time it was punting me down to 2g was when I was first activating, but that hasn't happened again. Maybe it was just a new setup type of issue, and like all of us, one little thing goes wrong and I think the sky is falling.
It's normal for it to switch from 3g to hspa

switching between 3g and hspa?

I'm on T-Mobile and my nexus 4 is constantly switching to hspa only when data is needed. Thats fine and all but data doesnt work when 3g is showing only the "H"... is this normal?
IshTheG said:
I'm on T-Mobile and my nexus 4 is constantly switching to hspa only when data is needed. Thats fine and all but data doesnt work when 3g is showing only the "H"... is this normal?
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Mines doing the same, I called yesterday the rep had me download speed test. I'm getting 16mbs down so I'm definitely getting the right speed in the Chicago area,weird
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Yes, that's normal. Your phone should switch to HSPA when you NEED data, but otherwise, it's going to be on 3G.
Ok this 3g H thing makes better sense now but it seems in my area it takes a while to reconnect the H so the internet works I wish it would just stay on the H full blast as i have it plugged in so don't care about battery.
And I would love to have the option to shut off 2 g, not just 2g only, i but i will figure it out.
Otherwise this phone has a strong signal where i am but i wish it would just stuggle on HSPA+, even if it drops out rather than switch to edge on me.
android88 said:
Yes, that's normal. Your phone should switch to HSPA when you NEED data, but otherwise, it's going to be on 3G.
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Is this a Nexus thing, a tmobile thing or ...??
kelmar13 said:
Is this a Nexus thing, a tmobile thing or ...??
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Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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El Daddy said:
Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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Gotcha! Coming from VZW and my last GSM phone was before LTE/HSPA.
Thx for the info!
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Yes, that's normal. Your phone should switch to HSPA when you NEED data, but otherwise, it's going to be on 3G.
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This is correct. The phone will sit on UMTS until data is actively being transferred.
blendobass said:
Ok this 3g H thing makes better sense now but it seems in my area it takes a while to reconnect the H so the internet works I wish it would just stay on the H full blast as i have it plugged in so don't care about battery.
And I would love to have the option to shut off 2 g, not just 2g only, i but i will figure it out.
Otherwise this phone has a strong signal where i am but i wish it would just stuggle on HSPA+, even if it drops out rather than switch to edge on me.
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No point in turning off 2G as the phone will never use it unless absolutely necessary.
El Daddy said:
Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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This. If you look at a One S it will only ever show "4G" or "2G".
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joshnichols189 said:
This is correct. The phone will sit on UMTS until data is actively being transferred.
No point in turning off 2G as the phone will never use it unless absolutely necessary.
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Where I live there is a pretty crappy signal, on my blackberry, i have it on "3g only" now i get a steady internet but at like 2 bars. I wish I could do this on my nexus so i can tell the phone HSPA+ only, that way it will stay connected to that only, when it lost the signal it does switch over to GSM/EDGE
In other words, at home I have a strong GSM signal and weak HSPA+, it wants to drop to 2 g all the time, that sucks. My blackberry just struggles and keeps reconnecting to the 3 g, this is much better for me.
I just wonder isn't there a way to have all the available radios listed, a app better than "phone info" as it doesn't do this so it is like
GSM/EDGE
3G
HSPA+
UMA
LTE
and you can check a box and you phone stay on that network ?
I notice in a network monitor app that my phone says it uses
WHSPA
UMA
GSM
and
UNKNOWN
so it is flipping threw radios because of the weak signals, maybe the phone is faulty i don't know
When my nexus is on HSPA+, even with no bars it is crazy fast compared to waht i am used to, even if the signal comes and goes it take to long between
changing radios or whatever to get back on the 4g
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kelmar13 said:
Is this a Nexus thing, a tmobile thing or ...??
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El Daddy said:
Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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Not sure about that, but I could be wrong my Nexus One stayed with the HSPA, my SGS2 Did the same thing However, this Nexus 4 toggles a lot back and forth from 3g to HSPA.
Lamar720 said:
Not sure about that, but I could be wrong my Nexus One stayed with the HSPA, my SGS2 Did the same thing However, this Nexus 4 toggles a lot back and forth from 3g to HSPA.
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Every T-Mobile phone I've owned has done this. Including the nexus one.
Initially the nexus one didn't show the change in the status bar. CM added the change and I'm not sure if stock did that later.
The sgs2 doesn't show the change in the status bar. But its happening. T-Mobile just leaves it showing "4G" for marketing and to not confuse people. Because it obviously does. I can't tell ya how many times I have answered this question between the galaxy nexus and nexus 4.
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El Daddy said:
Every T-Mobile phone I've owned has done this. Including the nexus one.
Initially the nexus one didn't show the change in the status bar. CM added the change and I'm not sure if stock did that later.
The sgs2 doesn't show the change in the status bar. But its happening. T-Mobile just leaves it showing "4G" for marketing and to not confuse people. Because it obviously does. I can't tell ya how many times I have answered this question between the galaxy nexus and nexus 4.
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Thanks for the heads up, I guess they need to keep it on 4g for Marketing reasons, I use my phone for Marketing reasons to promote the 4g service but, now that I have a consistent toggle between the 3g and H showing It's not that good of a marketing tool. Sooooo, CM I need a mod lol. Thanks again EL
Lamar720 said:
Thanks for the heads up, I guess they need to keep it on 4g for Marketing reasons, I use my phone for Marketing reasons to promote the 4g service but, now that I have a consistent toggle between the 3g and H showing It's not that good of a marketing tool. Sooooo, CM I need a mod lol. Thanks again EL
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A user created a mod to change the H to 4g. If you are running CM or PA you can use it. Its at the end of the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103171
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A user created a mod to change the H to 4g. If you are running CM or PA you can use it. Its at the end of the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103171
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Cool, the H is fine I just think it shows the toggle to 3g to much. SGS2 never did that.
Lamar720 said:
Cool, the H is fine I just think it shows the toggle to 3g to much. SGS2 never did that.
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Alternatively you can change the 3g icon to an H or 4g as well. Just extract the systemui.apk. copy the H icon and rename it to whatever the 3g icon is called. Wrap the apk back up and push it back.
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This happens to me and it causes a problem. It is a brand new Nexus 4 and I am on Wind Mobile in Canada.
The 3G/H switch actually causes me problems - every time I go to use my phone's data, it takes maybe... 15 seconds and a few attempts before I can get online. It happens every time I go to use my data.
It's extremely annoying as you can imagine - what can I do? Is there any way to force my phone to remain on H all the time?
I am running stock 4.2.2
thanks
bluedot33 said:
This happens to me and it causes a problem. It is a brand new Nexus 4 and I am on Wind Mobile in Canada.
The 3G/H switch actually causes me problems - every time I go to use my phone's data, it takes maybe... 15 seconds and a few attempts before I can get online. It happens every time I go to use my data.
It's extremely annoying as you can imagine - what can I do? Is there any way to force my phone to remain on H all the time?
I am running stock 4.2.2
thanks
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I think I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm with Telus in Canada and I experience the same thing. Except for me the network always sits on HSPA, and when I go to use the data (in any form - IM, reddit, browsing) it switches to HSPA+ before loading the page. And that transition takes several attempts and 15 seconds sometimes. I've been searching for a solution ever since I got this phone. Glad to see it's not just me (or even Telus it seems)...
I used to have an HTC Desire, and the same sim and APN settings on that phone did not have this delay. And the only difference I can think of is that the Desire stays on regular HSPA, whereas the nexus switches to HSPA+ when a data connection is attempted. I have read some posts for Samsung devices that allow you to force it to use only HSPA. It was like typing *#30179# or something and getting a menu, but that combination does nothing on the Nexus4. Will keep searching, collectively I'm sure we can figure this out!
My phone never shows 3G.. only H or E.. goes straight to E from H. Weird.
aka_Telo said:
I think I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm with Telus in Canada and I experience the same thing. Except for me the network always sits on HSPA, and when I go to use the data (in any form - IM, reddit, browsing) it switches to HSPA+ before loading the page. And that transition takes several attempts and 15 seconds sometimes. I've been searching for a solution ever since I got this phone. Glad to see it's not just me (or even Telus it seems)...
I used to have an HTC Desire, and the same sim and APN settings on that phone did not have this delay. And the only difference I can think of is that the Desire stays on regular HSPA, whereas the nexus switches to HSPA+ when a data connection is attempted. I have read some posts for Samsung devices that allow you to force it to use only HSPA. It was like typing *#30179# or something and getting a menu, but that combination does nothing on the Nexus4. Will keep searching, collectively I'm sure we can figure this out!
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OMG I'm so glad I found your posts. I'm on Fido (Montreal) and I'm having the same issues. It takes a while to switch from 3G to H sometimes, and sometimes it just seems to not switch at all! For example, if I'm in WhatsApp and I send a message, sometimes it'll just stay there waiting for a good long time before it's actually sent. It's like the phone doesn't "realize" that there's an app requesting to send/receive data! Super annoying, and definitely an issue that can be reproduced. It happens to me in WhatsApp, Twitter, Facebook and even the Gmail app.
same issue here... it takes almost a min to transition from 3g to H and visversa
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