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Epic Keyboard Misses Keys

Hello guys!
Just got my Epic a few weeks ago to replace the old Moment.
Unfortunately.. I like everything about the phone except the main reason I got it over the Evo.. the keyboard. It seems to drop keys a lot, and I know for a fact I pressed them.
For example I can open up a text and type "lalalalalalalalalalalala" and it will drop a l or a or two. It's extremely annoying, the main reason I opted for the keyboard was for good accuracy when replying to emails for work..
As anyone else experienced this issue? Is this a software glitch or is hardware related? If this is a hardware problem.. I will be trading in for the Evo since I'm still within my 30 days.... not to mention the much better support Evo has for updates.. oh and my Network Based Location doesn't work.. wth really? So no location based app can find me with the real gps off. Why couldn't it of been HTC Epic 4g..
Anyways any input on the hardware keyboard would be greatly appreciated.

Sadly, this is a issue with the Epic's keyboard.
All of the Epic's i've played with have this problem, and I think its a combination of hardware and software.
Typing very quickly will cause it to lag and skip a few letters. You have to slow down about 2seconds and it will be fine.

Yeah, I was in the IRC talking to some people and it came off that its a known issue, happens in recovery to (although not quite as bad).. must be a hardware issue.. very disappointing considering the selling point to this phone over the evo is the keyboard mainly.
Does the keyboard have a buffer setting in the kernel somewhere? Maybe a seasoned developer would know haha, my gut tells me this is a buffer issue, you type to fast the buffer will fill up, and a letter or two will drop. Seems logical..

Is it possible that it doesnt deal with "multi touch" well. I know thats a soft keyboard term but typing to fast on the hard keyboard could surface issues if you have not fully depressed the previous key when typing fast???
Just a thought

mikeschevelle said:
Is it possible that it doesnt deal with "multi touch" well. I know thats a soft keyboard term but typing to fast on the hard keyboard could surface issues if you have not fully depressed the previous key when typing fast???
Just a thought
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IF I hit the A and S key at the same time it properly puts in "as"..when I slide "asdfghjkl" it misses a few characters..its not too big of an issue for me as I don't type that fast but there is definitely something :/
Out of curiosity I also tested the same thing on an Samsung Intercept..and Intercept is not effected..

Seems like my keyboard has gotten worse over time. I can't type a word without missing a letter. Really annoying.

I have the same problem with mine. I figured it's a hardware issue and not really so much an issue with lag. I can hit a key and it just won't show up period so that's not lag.

I'm glad I don't type that fast.

It does it to me whether typing fast or not. Every time I send a text I allot myself time for corrections because I know every time it misses 1-2 letters. It's pretty annoying. Not only that but i'm constantly getting unsent txt errors with this phone...never had that problem before.

Ever since ditching Swype for Ultra keyboard I haven't had this problem. I have it enabled so that its auto correct system works for the physical keyboard as well.

I've also had this problem. Very annoying especially being a fast typer. I feel like it is mostly a software issue too. It would be nice to have one of the great developers here take a look into it. This is my biggest problem with the epic.

Yeah it is particularly sad, especially considering that phones like the G1, Motorolas Devour & Cliq (*Puke, my old phone*) as well as other mid-range phones could type flawlessly. Yet one of the best phones in the world IMHO and you can't even type as fast as you'd like.
I'd also like to start a bounty for this soon, I'd be glad to donate to any developer that tracked down the issue and abolished it. (Unless its a hardware issue, in which case were just screwed.)

I am starting to get it as well. Seems to be a known issue but very annoying. If it gets any worse I am just going to get a single piece phone case and say goodbye to the keyboard forever. Sucks to say it but there is no point in using a keyboard that is inaccurate to the point that I need to go back and correct things when I know I typed it correctly the first time

Could it have anything to do with the fact that our keyboards can handle multiple key presses at once? No other phone I have ever had could handle pressing multiple keys at the same time. It might just be an issue of not fully letting go of the previous key when the next key is hit. Or there might be a small delay after a keypress where the phone is waiting to see if another key is going to be pressed in combination to alter the consequences of said key press.

Yeah I noticed I need to slow down. I come from the touch pro 2s sick keyboard.
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Gotta say I was having the same problem... then someone here said to try ultra keyboard... and for some reason it has stopped missing the keys.. so I do believe it is more of a software problem. I am on the 24 hour trial and so far it works.
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I personally believe this is a software buffer issue with this particular keyboard.
Every physical keyboard needs a buffer, even on your PC. I think if we could increase the buffer on our Epic's keyboard driver which is built into the kernel we could alleviate this problem.
If a actual Dev would be willing to check it out that would be awesome! Not sure if Froyo still has this problem.
I agree with the disappointment... my Moment never missed a beat texting with the keyboard or writing an email, my Epic with all of its potential drops the ball in this department currently.
I hope it can be fixed. And no the solution is NOT to type slower..

I disabled the swype keyboard and it seems to have helped the issue. Maybe its just me? I am running the normal android on screen keyboard with swype unchecked in my settings

muyoso said:
Could it have anything to do with the fact that our keyboards can handle multiple key presses at once? No other phone I have ever had could handle pressing multiple keys at the same time. It might just be an issue of not fully letting go of the previous key when the next key is hit. Or there might be a small delay after a keypress where the phone is waiting to see if another key is going to be pressed in combination to alter the consequences of said key press.
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no its not the problem..I did a test by pressing both "a" and "s" key at same time and it registered as "as"..if that was the problem it wouldn't have registered that
Bigjim1488 said:
I disabled the swype keyboard and it seems to have helped the issue. Maybe its just me? I am running the normal android on screen keyboard with swype unchecked in my settings
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I just disabled swype and did the "asdfghjkl" test and it worked flawlessly...I then re-enabled swype and it still worked fine :/ (running the dj29 froyo rom)..we may need more testing into this I guess?

Bigjim1488 said:
I disabled the swype keyboard and it seems to have helped the issue. Maybe its just me? I am running the normal android on screen keyboard with swype unchecked in my settings
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Sometimes I use swype whenever I need to type a short message. It's the best of both worlds. Sad if you need to disable one of the features just to get the keyboard to work properly.
EDIT: Look at the fail rate when typing ab for a solid minute on my KB:
Abababababababababaababababababababababababaabababababababababababababababababababbaababaababababababababababababababababababaabababababababababbabababbababbabababababbabaababaabbababaababababababababababababababababababbaabababababababaababababaababababaabababababababaabababababababababababaabababababababaababababaababababababababaabababababababababababababbabababababababababababababababababaababababb
This is with swype disabled.

Keyboard Issues...Just me?

In the past few days, my keyboard has been acting up. I've been using Smart Keyboard pro since the day I got my phone and LOVED it, but for the past few days, it's been acting the bollix. Basically, I could be pressing the delete button for maybe 4 or 5 times, and it would enter 2 z's and delete 3 charachters?
I thought that it might just be the keyboard, so I switched to the default one, and it did happen, but not as much. I have just installed the Gingerbread Keyboard from the market, and it seems to be working ok, but it's still annoying. Anyone else had any problems with their keyboard entering random letters?

Nhialor said:
In the past few days, my keyboard has been acting up. I've been using Smart Keyboard pro since the day I got my phone and LOVED it, but for the past few days, it's been acting the bollix. Basically, I could be pressing the delete button for maybe 4 or 5 times, and it would enter 2 z's and delete 3 charachters?
I thought that it might just be the keyboard, so I switched to the default one, and it did happen, but not as much. I have just installed the Gingerbread Keyboard from the market, and it seems to be working ok, but it's still annoying. Anyone else had any problems with their keyboard entering random letters?
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Mine always put full stops outta nowhere its.like.its gone nuts or something..
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Nhialor said:
In the past few days, my keyboard has been acting up. I've been using Smart Keyboard pro since the day I got my phone and LOVED it, but for the past few days, it's been acting the bollix. Basically, I could be pressing the delete button for maybe 4 or 5 times, and it would enter 2 z's and delete 3 charachters?
I thought that it might just be the keyboard, so I switched to the default one, and it did happen, but not as much. I have just installed the Gingerbread Keyboard from the market, and it seems to be working ok, but it's still annoying. Anyone else had any problems with their keyboard entering random letters?
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Try removing the factory installed screen protector... it does wonders for touch sensitivity and brightness of the screen. I highly recommend it.

Frogybloop said:
Try removing the factory installed screen protector... it does wonders for touch sensitivity and brightness of the screen. I highly recommend it.
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already done that

I too have had this problem twice now.
The first fix was to install Gingerbread Keyboard and it seemed to fix.
Then i had the same problem again (If i pressed "p" it would also press "t" and pressing "delete" would also press "c") and fixed it by cleaning the screen with a wet wipe.
The problem for me when it happens is basically when you press the right hand side of the screen in landscape mode, it also think you are pressing the middle of the screen at the same time.
Its only happened twice so im not all that bothered.
Try cleaning the screen with wet wipe and see if it fixes.

I've been using swype...and as cool and innovative as it is...I'm always having to double our triple check my text msgs and posts...lately I've been having to correct my corrections..its a bit ridiculous so I'm trying to get into the habit if reading what I type every few words..
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I just posted a thread about a multitouch issue on the xperia play. I think it may be causing your problems. It may not make sense what I am saying right now but if you read my thread it might make sense.
Basically when you are typing fast you will definitely have 2 touch points on the keyboard. and the Xperia Play is counting more than 2 touch points. So your third touch maybe registered as a 3rd finger.
Here is my post if you want to take a look

OK. I've just cleaned the screen with a wet wipe. I'm going to post this message and leave it if it makes any incorrect entries.
Seems to have worked. I will now try landscape orientation.
OK, so portrait seems to have worked well enough. I'm trying out the landscape input now. Seems to be working. I was kinda worried about this problem, but cleaning the screen seems to have sorted it out.
Also, I have installed swype, but I do not really like it. Its awkward. I used to love it on my WinMo 6.1 phone (Omnia) however, I do not feel that i should be restricted to what keyboard I can use because of the phone not responding to input properly.
Back to portrait, OK. Seems to have worked. Nope, its doing it again now. Dunno why?
Stress
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I have a question.
Is this problem consistent like it happens every single time or does it come and go?
I personally use swype and I love it. I have not had this problem yet.

It's not a software problem, it is hardware.
When mine has had the problem, it does it on stock keyboard, chinese keyboard and gingerbread keyboard.
Basically, for me, when i touch the furthermost right hand side of the screen in landscape mode, it also registers as touching in the middle of the screen too.

Well it only started happening in the past few days. I'm gonna reflash back to 2.3.3 stock and see does that fix the issues. If not what's everyone's suggestions?
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RacecarBMW said:
I just posted a thread about a multitouch issue on the xperia play. I think it may be causing your problems. It may not make sense what I am saying right now but if you read my thread it might make sense.
Basically when you are typing fast you will definitely have 2 touch points on the keyboard. and the Xperia Play is counting more than 2 touch points. So your third touch maybe registered as a 3rd finger.
Here is my post if you want to take a look
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Tried to replicate this problem using the stock keyboard, and couldn't get the problem to happen.

So i'm not the only one who is having this problem?

dsswoosh said:
Tried to replicate this problem using the stock keyboard, and couldn't get the problem to happen.
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Well that was just my theory to the OP. The multitouch problem does exist but I thought the problems with the OP's keyboard was related to this. Turns out its not.

I flashed CM7 and haven't experienced this problem yet, but I'm sure I will at some stage... *sigh*

typing too fast; keystrokes not registering

hey guys
does anyone else have a problem with their atrix, where if you type extremely fast (2-3 char per second), the atrix does not register the key?
i'm not talking about they normal keyboard lag (type and then then 3-4 sec later it shows up on the screen, got rid of that by turning off haptic feedback), my issue is that when I type fast, i can see the popup for a key, but it won't register on the screen.
for example, if i type happy, i would see the popup on the keyboard for each individual letter (H A P P Y), but it would only register H P P Y, almost like the multitouch isn't working properly.
the effect is very pronounced on aftermarket keyboards (i've tried a lot, ICS, GO, swiftkey), and they are all WORSE than the stock keyboard. the simplest fix is to type slowly, but that just ruins my train of thought.
can anyone help?

rp_guy said:
hey guys
does anyone else have a problem with their atrix, where if you type extremely fast (2-3 char per second), the atrix does not register the key?
i'm not talking about they normal keyboard lag (type and then then 3-4 sec later it shows up on the screen, got rid of that by turning off haptic feedback), my issue is that when I type fast, i can see the popup for a key, but it won't register on the screen.
for example, if i type happy, i would see the popup on the keyboard for each individual letter (H A P P Y), but it would only register H P P Y, almost like the multitouch isn't working properly.
the effect is very pronounced on aftermarket keyboards (i've tried a lot, ICS, GO, swiftkey), and they are all WORSE than the stock keyboard. the simplest fix is to type slowly, but that just ruins my train of thought.
can anyone help?
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yeah I noticed this too, it seems like the multitouch doesn't work properly. What ROM are you using? I'm on WetDream 1.2 still. I don't know why it's this way but it makes me very sad. It's very annoying. Anyone else have this?

I have this problem as well. I went on a rampage downloading a million different keyboards, but to no avail.

I have the same problem. Could it be the digitizer?

Are you guys running any CM9 ROM? If so, that's your problem. Since these ROMs are using older drivers that are not made for ICS, you are going to face these problems until Motorola....more like MotoLOLa....releases the ICS drivers later this year.
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TheMan0790 said:
Are you guys running any CM9 ROM? If so, that's your problem. Since these ROMs are using older drivers that are not made for ICS, you are going to face these problems until Motorola....more like MotoLOLa....releases the ICS drivers later this year.
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I accidentally hit the "thanks" button when I meant to hit "quote" but anyways, I'm using cm7 and this problem happens on every different rom that I have tried. I have never had so much problems with a new phone before that I'm starting to think that motorola can't even make phones that work anymore.

Yes I believe the problem is poor implementation from Motorola.
IF you use the stock keyboard (the multittouch one) this problem goes away. Just figured this out this morning.
I am using a blur based stock rom (one of nottach's) so I still have that keyboard available. I think this will be enough to keep me on stock based roms or at least roms that will have that keyboard.

Atrix_Owner said:
I accidentally hit the "thanks" button when I meant to hit "quote" but anyways, I'm using cm7 and this problem happens on every different rom that I have tried. I have never had so much problems with a new phone before that I'm starting to think that motorola can't even make phones that work anymore.
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That is very weird. When I was using CM7, I never faced any keyboard issues. It kills me that the Atrix's worst keyboard, IMO, was when I was using stock GB. Absolutely the worst thing ever.
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bump for more attention.

I've always had this issue on every ROM with every keyboard I've ever used including the stock Motorola one. I just chalked it up to the multitouch not working since it doesn't seem to work correctly for anything.
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I've only ever had this problem with the stock ICS keyboard on a CM9/ICS Rom, the 'solution' was to disable either the keyboard's or android's spelling correction. Can't say I've know exactly what's causing it on anything else, I'm afraid.

Bluetooth Keyboard Woes

Being a longtime reader of the forums, I figured I should finally post. What better subject for that foray than my personal frustrations? I wasn't sure if I should put this in Android general or this board.
Some time ago I purchased a MoKo Bluetooth keyboard case (look it up, because I'm not allowed to post links) for my Nexus 10 after doing a spot of research and hearing some good things, even here on XDA. Upon receiving it, I encountered severe problems, and after far too much troubleshooting and research, I still am: I cannot for the life of me get the thing to pair with my Nexus 10, or my S II, or my friend's S II. The only time it connected successfully was when my Nexus 10 somehow mistook it for a game controller. It was fully functional, but prone to bugging out. I had the keyboard replaced, wondering if I'd just received a faulty item, but I'm still experiencing the exact same issues: whenever I try pairing, the passkey prompt appears for a varying amount of time before vanishing with the error message "failed to pair with Bluetooth Keyboard because of an incorrect PIN or passkey." Sometimes it also just says "failed to communicate with Bluetooth Keyboard." It happens regardless of input, so even if I do manage to type the passkey and hit enter, it doesn't matter.
I have tried helper apps on the market, but none have worked, not that I expected them to: the N10 supports HID natively from what I understand.
My Nexus 10 is fully updated and rooted, stock ROM, Franco kernel. My S II is running the latest CM 10.1 nightly. My friend's S II is on an earlier version of Jelly Bean from her carrier.
I'm pretty fed up. Can anybody help shed some light on what's going on? Is this a common Android issue, or is this just a horrible product?

Hamish GJP said:
Being a longtime reader of the forums, I figured I should finally post. What better subject for that foray than my personal frustrations? I wasn't sure if I should put this in Android general or this board.
Some time ago I purchased a MoKo Bluetooth keyboard case (look it up, because I'm not allowed to post links) for my Nexus 10 after doing a spot of research and hearing some good things, even here on XDA. Upon receiving it, I encountered severe problems, and after far too much troubleshooting and research, I still am: I cannot for the life of me get the thing to pair with my Nexus 10, or my S II, or my friend's S II. The only time it connected successfully was when my Nexus 10 somehow mistook it for a game controller. It was fully functional, but prone to bugging out. I had the keyboard replaced, wondering if I'd just received a faulty item, but I'm still experiencing the exact same issues: whenever I try pairing, the passkey prompt appears for a varying amount of time before vanishing with the error message "failed to pair with Bluetooth Keyboard because of an incorrect PIN or passkey." Sometimes it also just says "failed to communicate with Bluetooth Keyboard." It happens regardless of input, so even if I do manage to type the passkey and hit enter, it doesn't matter.
I have tried helper apps on the market, but none have worked, not that I expected them to: the N10 supports HID natively from what I understand.
My Nexus 10 is fully updated and rooted, stock ROM, Franco kernel. My S II is running the latest CM 10.1 nightly. My friend's S II is on an earlier version of Jelly Bean from her carrier.
I'm pretty fed up. Can anybody help shed some light on what's going on? Is this a common Android issue, or is this just a horrible product?
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Have you tried a different kernel?
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I just tried KTManta. Same result. I'll try the stock kernel later on.

Same issue "Please Help"
I am having the same issue with the error before being able to put the code in with my Poetic bluetooth keyboard. I am rooted. I have not made any changes like add kernals or roms and on 4.3. This keyboard hase worked when I first got it and stopped a while after. I thought rooting would fix this issue but obviously not. This is the one http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Removable-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Function/dp/B00AG0D61O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377744986&sr=8-1&keywords=poetic+bluetooth+keyboard+nexus+10 Someone please help me out. Oh by the way, I have had this keyboard replaced and still the same issue.

lalaa said:
I am having the same issue with the error before being able to put the code in with my Poetic bluetooth keyboard. I am rooted. I have not made any changes like add kernals or roms and on 4.3. This keyboard hase worked when I first got it and stopped a while after. I thought rooting would fix this issue but obviously not. This is the one (lol im new). Someone please help me out. Oh by the way, I have had this keyboard replaced and still the same issue.
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That keyboard, while sold under a different name, seems to be exactly the same as mine. I've tried two of these keyboards, and both experienced the same issue. I purchased an Acer keyboard some time ago, which worked immediately.
I'd demand a refund straight away.

lalaa said:
I am having the same issue with the error before being able to put the code in with my Poetic bluetooth keyboard. I am rooted. I have not made any changes like add kernals or roms and on 4.3. This keyboard hase worked when I first got it and stopped a while after. I thought rooting would fix this issue but obviously not. This is the one http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Remova...1&keywords=poetic+bluetooth+keyboard+nexus+10 Someone please help me out. Oh by the way, I have had this keyboard replaced and still the same issue.
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I have exactly the same keyboard as you, when it doesn't want to work I turn it off, unpair the keyboard, hold the Bluetooth button while turning it on, then I simply try to pair again. I am using Android 4.3 Rooted as well .
Good luck,
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[Q] Nexus Player remote LED constantly flashing

I was using my nexus player a little while ago with the remote that came with it when it suddenly stopped working and now the LED light constantly flashes. I have taken the batteries out and put them back in, still the same result. anybody have an idea what that means? maybe indication the batteries are dying?

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I was using my nexus player a little while ago with the remote that came with it when it suddenly stopped working and now the LED light constantly flashes. I have taken the batteries out and put them back in, still the same result. anybody have an idea what that means? maybe indication the batteries are dying?
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For whatever reason your remote lost sync with the NP. If you go to settings near the bottom, you can re-sync the remote in accessories, I believe (not in front of the player at the moment). If your remote is listed there already you can remove it then redo it. This will require pressing the Home and Back buttons at the same time to put the remote in discoverable mode.

Elrondolio said:
For whatever reason your remote lost sync with the NP. If you go to settings near the bottom, you can re-sync the remote in accessories, I believe (not in front of the player at the moment). If your remote is listed there already you can remove it then redo it. This will require pressing the Home and Back buttons at the same time to put the remote in discoverable mode.
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Ah yes! Thank you! I did not even think about that!

This has happened to me multiple times. It is annoying. I wonder is anyone else is experiencing this.

It might be possible you hit the Home+Back buttons at the same time, putting the remote in discovery mode.
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I'm having the same issues listed. I've tried several times repairing. I have been using the Android TV remote app on my phone in place when it happens. Thankfully DroidMote server just updated to support the Nexus Player and works awesome! You have to be rooted but it makes the Nexus Player so much easier to manage with the option for trackpad/gamepad/remote all in one.
EDIT: I've also tried pairing a bluetooth mouse but haven't had success. Maybe it has something to do with the mouse I have. I bought it in Japan and it's an Elecom brand.

Pedro2NR said:
This has happened to me multiple times. It is annoying. I wonder is anyone else is experiencing this.
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This happens to me quite regularly (every week or two). Luckily I have my phone setup as a backup remote, so I can fairly easily re-pair it, but it really makes the Nexus Player seem very much like a beta-quality release.

Seems that this is more that just a coincidence. Still no fix.

HelixOne said:
This happens to me quite regularly (every week or two). Luckily I have my phone setup as a backup remote, so I can fairly easily re-pair it, but it really makes the Nexus Player seem very much like a beta-quality release.
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Me too. Every 2-3 weeks I should re-peir Nexus Player remote.