How do they get these? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, like a lot of people, I keep my passwords, I.e. bank account, credit card, etc... on my phone in Keeper. I installed androidlost to wipe my phone clean if I ever lose it or it gets stolen. But here's my question: if my phone gets stolen, chances are that the average Joe will find it and try to access the information on the device itself. So, how does the average person get around the keypad lock pin and access the password protected Keeper app? I know there are different ways to access info like through email. But I don't understand how they crack the N4.

I heard by laying it for some minutes in the freezer then they can read it out with a device.
And yes I'm serious .
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failly said:
I heard by laying it for some minutes in the freezer then they can read it out with a device.
And yes I'm serious .
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That is how you do investigations in case you have to access an encrypted environment and you suppose the keys are stored in ram.
I do not know about keeper, but if you use Keepassdroid or similar apps just make sure they auto unmount after a short delay so people without che correct passphrase and encryption keys are unable to access thir content

Easy! Don't put important information in your phone. Put it in SD card; cut small part of your body; hide the SD card in it ?
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Encryption.... Does it slow down the phone?

I'm thinking about it as I got my old phone stolen and was stupid enough to not have any security apps and such so that was a loss. So now I'm deciding if I should. Does this slow down my phone?
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Oathkeeper1212 said:
I'm thinking about it as I got my old phone stolen and was stupid enough to not have any security apps and such so that was a loss. So now I'm deciding if I should. Does this slow down my phone?
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Apparently
https://plus.google.com/100189201683309462509/posts/9oAtcFrudJ4
There are other articles if you search google for "does encryption slow down android"
I'm curious to know how much of a performance hit the nexus 4 will take after encryption.... But I'm not testing that loll
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I'm interested on trying this
I have a friend who encrypted his Nexus 4 and he says there is no noticeable slow down
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Vanhoud said:
I have a friend who encrypted his Nexus 4 and he says there is no noticeable slow down
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OK I'm going to do it!
If I copy/paste to a PC my encrypted nexus 4 phone (to unencrypt it with a master reset)... Will I have some problems?
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thesebastian said:
OK I'm going to do it!
If I copy/paste to a PC my encrypted nexus 4 phone (to unencrypt it with a master reset)... Will I have some problems?
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You mean like transferring files? There should be no problem
The encryption is more for protection against someone finding your phone when it's turned off. When you turn the phone on you are required to put a pin number in before it can even boot. One you have entered this you should be able to do anything a non encrypted phone can do
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Vanhoud said:
You mean like transferring files? There should be no problem
The encryption is more for protection against someone finding your phone when it's turned off. When you turn the phone on you are required to put a pin number in before it can even boot. One you have entered this you should be able to do anything a non encrypted phone can do
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I'm actually having a lot of problems with 4.2 to Copy internal memory to my PC (using this "MTP" option).
this is off-topic:
For instance, now i have like 40 items on internal memory (40 folders) i'm trying to copy all of them (except sdcard folder) and when the copy/paste is finished, only half of them are passed to my PC. I'm started having this kind of problems in 4.2.X
So i wanted to know if encryption will make all this even more...problematic.
thesebastian said:
I'm actually having a lot of problems with 4.2 to Copy internal memory to my PC (using this "MTP" option).
this is off-topic:
For instance, now i have like 40 items on internal memory (40 folders) i'm trying to copy all of them (except sdcard folder) and when the copy/paste is finished, only half of them are passed to my PC. I'm started having this kind of problems in 4.2.X
So i wanted to know if encryption will make all this even more...problematic.
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Well im not sure about this because i can copy all files just fine...
Vanhoud said:
Well im not sure about this because i can copy all files just fine...
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Tried with OS X too, and had the same problem....(too much time calculating the estimated time or preparing to copy...but when it starts..it only copies a few folderss).
I'm going to try to copy/paste with 4 selections of 10 items (folders) instead of one of 40 that always fails. As far as i see...the "android/data" folder is one of the main problems here.
After doing this...i'll try to encrypt my phone.
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I failed you...i won't try this...because another thing ( i didnt know ) just appeared...
The reason: After encryption i won't be able to user Pattern Unlock. Only PIN or PASSWORD unlock.
http://nerdland.net/unstumping-the-internet/pattern-unlock-after-android-full-device-encryption/
Phone Encryption
Oathkeeper1212 said:
I'm thinking about it as I got my old phone stolen and was stupid enough to not have any security apps and such so that was a loss. So now I'm deciding if I should. Does this slow down my phone?
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There are security options available that shouldn't slow down your phone... I use TrustChip to secure my phone, and TrustCall along with it to encrypt my calls, or if I am sending a file for work. I don't need to be logged into a server to use it, so it doesn't drain the battery or slow down my phone.
SteveDecker said:
There are security options available that shouldn't slow down your phone... I use TrustChip to secure my phone, and TrustCall along with it to encrypt my calls, or if I am sending a file for work. I don't need to be logged into a server to use it, so it doesn't drain the battery or slow down my phone.
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I usually just use AirDroid instead of MTP, since wifi transfering seems faster than USB when using it as a MTP device, I kind of miss the old USB mounting style, least could be read/written directly.

Broken phone

Dropped my phone this week, and even though I have a flip case it landed open and face down (sods law), resulting in the screen being smashed and completely unresponsive.
Kind of hoping that the insurer can repair it. Not a big deal as 99% of data on the phone is held in the cloud. The big annoyance for me is if I have to get a new phone I have to start all of my games again from the start. I wish Google would fix this where all app data is genuinely backed up to the cloud, but they don't seem to be in a hurry to do this.
Without rooting are there any apps out there that can do this? Think I know the answer already but just thought I would put it out here.
In the mean time I'm rocking a Nokia 1650
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wilfmoralee said:
Dropped my phone this week, and even though I have a flip case it landed open and face down (sods law), resulting in the screen being smashed and completely unresponsive.
Kind of hoping that the insurer can repair it. Not a big deal as 99% of data on the phone is held in the cloud. The big annoyance for me is if I have to get a new phone I have to start all of my games again from the start. I wish Google would fix this where all app data is genuinely backed up to the cloud, but they don't seem to be in a hurry to do this.
Without rooting are there any apps out there that can do this? Think I know the answer already but just thought I would put it out here.
In the mean time I'm rocking a Nokia 1650
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You need it rooted to gain access to the root partition of the phone, where all the app data is stored. I do not think you can backup any app data without root. You could unlock the bootloader and root it, backup the app data you need, then un-root and re-lock the loader if you're that much against rooting it.
wilfmoralee said:
Dropped my phone this week, and even though I have a flip case it landed open and face down (sods law), resulting in the screen being smashed and completely unresponsive.
Kind of hoping that the insurer can repair it. Not a big deal as 99% of data on the phone is held in the cloud. The big annoyance for me is if I have to get a new phone I have to start all of my games again from the start. I wish Google would fix this where all app data is genuinely backed up to the cloud, but they don't seem to be in a hurry to do this.
Without rooting are there any apps out there that can do this? Think I know the answer already but just thought I would put it out here.
In the mean time I'm rocking a Nokia 1650
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Root makes life so much easier and pleasant mate
You can read data without root, I think?
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I think you can use carbon back up by koush without being rooted. It basically does an adb backup which you can do with out being rooted
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Will give carbon a look when I get my nexus 4 back.
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Left my Note 2 in a taxi, bye bye $700

I don't normally screw up but a few days ago I did it big time. Long story short, I left my Note 2 in a taxi and I have no ability of getting a hold of the driver since I cannot recollect what company I used or what his licence plate was (you guessed it, I was intoxicated).
I did have Samsung Remote Controls installed on my phone but unfortunately I wasn't online when I left it. I had both wifi and data turned off. I also had a screen lock so the would-be thief would not be able to activate internet without first factory resetting everything.
I also tried calling the phone multiple times to no avail because it has been turned off. Is there any way for me to recover the phone or at least wipe it completely? I had an SD card on there with mildly sensitive information, I should have encrypted but did not.
Any ideas for how to wipe/find/recover/block/brick/self-detonate the phone would be greatly appreciated!
Im affraid its gone
as you say it would be factory reset so you cant even remotely install anything. its a real shame.
Google also dont track anything so best you can hope is IMEI to network and police. but chances are it will go abroad
I'm in Thailand and my carrier doesn't block IMEI's for some reason. I also had a 32 gig SD card in there from Sandisk, epic fail!!!! :crying:
The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is so great that you should pass the greatness of it forward.
did you set up your samsung account on it? the chances are bad but you should try locating it from here
Even though its too late now. Few things You Can learn from this . 1. Use the Cerbus APP its Much better than and theft APP as it Can survive A full Wipe . Also, always Keep your internet on
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^^ With Cerbrus you could actually turn on your data remotly via SMS.
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^^ With Cerbrus you could actually turn on your data remotly via SMS.
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Wow ! Didnt know that good to know
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Android Lost is the best app I have found for the purposes you need...
Sorry ....! For ur loss wish u got avast antivirus would had tracked last location...with antitheft ...I track my girls phone in india....if guy nt that smart for g note 2 ..after reset its imbeded
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What a bummer... maybe it might be returned to you ?
Not sure if that will help but on the GN2 under settings > security you have an option called find my mobile Web page. If you login with ur samsung acc, you would be able to locate ur phone and do few other stuff.
GL :thumbup:
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Sorry for the loss
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lookout.labs.planb
Have you tried plan b from lookout labs? If he hasn't wiped your phone you should be able to relocate the phone regardless if gps or wifi is off.
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App recommendations for tracking and remote wipe

I ran into a problem last week where my girlfriend got her phone stolen. We promptly called AT&T and had them shut it off but it got me thinking about security and recovery apps. The problem was, she didn't have any screen lock set and now whoever had the phone had full access to her private photos and text messages.
I had played around with some "track your phone" apps a few years ago but it was mostly for the fun factor. Now I'm looking for some recommendations from you guys. I know there are a million apps out there that do what I'm trying to do but I want to know what you guys use and trust.
I need the following features.
1. Phone tracking - I'd like to be able to get on either a website or another Android phone (my phone) and pinpoint where the phone currently is. This is important for lost phones and stolen phones.
2. Remote Wipe - If the phone is stolen or unrecoverable, I want the ability to remotely wipe the phone or factory reset it. I don't want anyone getting my personal stuff.
I've heard Lookout a good program but the price is a little high and I believe it's a yearly charge.
3CX has a device manager that looks promising and it's free for up to 5 phones.
Please respond and let me know what your personal experience has been with any of these programs. Hopefully I'll never have to use it but I'd like to have something just in case.
Ceberus is great. Check it out on Google pay. Free for 7 days then a one time fee of around 4 bucks. You can use it on any of your devices without paying again. Also if you have root you can prevent it from being uninstalled with a factory reset.
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another vote for Cerberus here.
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3thd recommendation here, Cerberus
Cerberus or AndroidLost. Both are great. Personally I prefer AL though.
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AndroidLost (Also free)
Cerberus all the way.
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Lookout Mobile Security.
Cerebrus ftw
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Seekdroid?
Cerberus app using since 2 year very use full easy to use.
i use avast and love it
cerebus had free sign ups. best app so far.

Stolen phone security?

Hey guys, my question here is that I rooted my phone, got a custom recovery, running a custom ROM and I'm using a pin code request at the lock screen. The thing is if someone stole my phone.... They can delete the data on the phone from the recovery by turning it off and pressing down + power to enter recovery and viola! They have a new phone.... How can I prevent this from happening and make sure the pin stays no matter what?
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Write down your imei code in a safe place so that you can give it to the police and your phone company if your phone is stolen. In some countries the service providers will ban phones with imei registered as stolen. However, this only work for the country you live in. In other words, if the thief sells your phone oversea it can still be used.
Regarding factory restore and deleting all your data, I am afraid there is very little you can do to stop the thief. You can use a boot up password, but there are probably ways to circumvent it, especially on a rooted and bootloader unlocked phone. Most security measures are aimed at stopping thieves from accessing your personal data stored on the phone, so they are not too concerned about thieves wiping the phone data. In fact, most security services offer ways to remotely wipe your phone.
Once they have your phone, your only concern is keeping your personal info secure. You're not getting the phone back either way.
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True true thank you for trying to help but my point was for thieves not to have that enjoyment that they stole a phone and its useable..... So I can't put a lock for the bootloader menu... Thanx again for your help guys
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In future get "trickster mod donate" you can lock the bootloader with it, without wiping the phone and unlock it. If the phones locked with a pin they can't get to your information and you could put other measures on
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howard bamber said:
In future get "trickster mod donate" you can lock the bootloader with it, without wiping the phone and unlock it. If the phones locked with a pin they can't get to your information and you could put other measures on
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Thanx dude!!!
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