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I don't like TouchWiz, like most I thing its a bad copy of iOS.
Can we completely remove TouchWiz? I understand that if I install LauncherPro touchwiz il still work in the background...if we root SGS can we remove touchwiz? if yes how can we remove it?
Not unless if you root your phone, and not until a stock android ROM is available for Galaxy S.
I want to root my SGS but after I root the sgs how can I remove touchwiz?
deadmau said:
I want to root my SGS but after I root the sgs how can I remove touchwiz?
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snapper.fishes said:
not until a stock android ROM is available for Galaxy S.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but...
Parts of i9000's applications/services rely on code that exist in the TouchWiz package. Until a stock android ROM is released that can replace these code parts entirely removing TouchWiz won't be possible (without breaking your phone, that is).
steffe.jst said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but...
Parts of i9000's applications/services rely on code that exist in the TouchWiz package. Until a stock android ROM is released that can replace these code parts entirely removing TouchWiz won't be possible (without breaking your phone, that is).
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I might just confuse the issue, by "stock" I read "vanilla" (I know how to root, but definitely don't know the lingo). I also assume that some functions he'd be ok with staying similar, like how the ROM communicates with the phone's radio and makes calls. The available ROMs should definitely accomplish this, even if leaving some of the functionality untouched.
I don't know all the ROMs available, and know even less about the underlying functionality save but 1 or 2. And, specific to how I might be confusing "stock" with "vanilla" but he didn't specifically ask for Vanilla, so wouldn't he just need a ROM that isn't TouchWiz UI to accomplish his main goal? He's definitely trying to eliminate at least some, if not most or all, of the wasted background software functions that his phone is currently doing if he uses an "overlay UI" (sorry again for lack of terminology). And maybe I haven't helped anyone even point him in the right direction.
alovell83 said:
I might just confuse the issue, by "stock" I read "vanilla" (I know how to root, but definitely don't know the lingo). I also assume that some functions he'd be ok with staying similar, like how the ROM communicates with the phone's radio and makes calls. The available ROMs should definitely accomplish this, even if leaving some of the functionality untouched.
I don't know all the ROMs available, and know even less about the underlying functionality save but 1 or 2. And, specific to how I might be confusing "stock" with "vanilla" but he didn't specifically ask for Vanilla, so wouldn't he just need a ROM that isn't TouchWiz UI to accomplish his main goal? He's definitely trying to eliminate at least some, if not most or all, of the wasted background software functions that his phone is currently doing if he uses an "overlay UI" (sorry again for lack of terminology). And maybe I haven't helped anyone even point him in the right direction.
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I'm no master of the details, but the way I write stock could indeed be considered vanilla. Basically, stock would be Android 2.1 without any kind of third party Launcher, ie Nexus One style.
The way I've come to understand it is that the "launchers" that come with phones (Sense, TouchWiz) are not only Launchers but also provide a layer to communicate with the hardware.
It should be possible to replace this with custom roms, or in some way replace that layer of communication. But until this is done it won't be possible to simply remove TouchWiz entirely.
There also doesn't seem to be that many ROMs that officially support i9000 yet, though I haven't really looked too deeply.
deadmau said:
Hello
I don't like TouchWiz, like most I thing its a bad copy of iOS.
Can we completely remove TouchWiz? I understand that if I install LauncherPro touchwiz il still work in the background...if we root SGS can we remove touchwiz? if yes how can we remove it?
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I've just installed LauncherPro, using Home Switcher to select LauncherPro as default, the TouchWiz Start process doesn't seem to launch at boot. Seems perfectly okay to me.
MoWa22 said:
I've just installed LauncherPro, using Home Switcher to select LauncherPro as default, the TouchWiz Start process doesn't seem to launch at boot. Seems perfectly okay to me.
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You're just not seeing it, in more than one sense of the word. It's still consuming memory, which, I'll assume, is the OPs concern. We all would like a bit more memory with a bit less bloat.
The best way to test is, don't use LauncherPro, check your memory with all the tasks killed. Then, reboot with your typically setting with LauncherPro and Home Switcher, your available memory will be lower by about 20mb (I know not much, but we are probably trying to eliminate more than 20MB of wasted memory by eliminating a lot of the bloat TW might be adding.
http://briefmobile.com/how-to-disable-touchwiz-epic-4g
I have the vibrant and wish I could do this. For people that try it, does it make the epic faster?
From what I understand about Android, this will not disable TouchWiz. What you are doing is simply changing the action of the home key. It will still be loaded into memory. It's a nice option, some people might prefer the stock android UI.
I believe installing 3rd party launchers like ADW.Launcher would do the same thing.
The mere fact that TW is not showing can be defined as disabled, no?
TW is just a skinned UI over the Android framework.
Correct, Android should automatically kill that UI after a while of no usage and no longer load it
Question??
Question once its rooted. Are u able to remove touch wiz all together rather then swapping the interface?
davidrules7778 said:
Question once its rooted. Are u able to remove touch wiz all together rather then swapping the interface?
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I don't know much about TW but im sure some ROM's will surface with TW removed
I went ahead and tried it out. When I went to the stock interface, I found several widgets that I had deleted still there. I went ahead and "trashed" all the widgets on the default UI. Then I went back to using Samsung's interface. Don't know if that saved me any memory or not...but it sure sounded good at the moment.
Ps. don't mean to hijack the thread... it seems relevant I guess.
Hi friends.
I've been mooving around so many roms and now I finally know, that stock and stock like roms (IN MY CASE) will always end up messed up and laggy and buggy and unstable and and and...
So now I stick with MIUI, which in fact satisfies me. Except the notion, that I really like the messaging, and moreover contact book that go with the stock.
They have some really nice UI features that I love.
So the bottom line: Is there a way, I could extract those apps from Stock and install into MIUI?
If so, then how?
Installing is easy. Harder is extracting.
Any hints?
You can extract it from any CWM ROM based on Stock, but I do not think it will work -> missing Samsung frameworks, libs, etc.
Oh, that easy. Will give a try.
Yeah,I know that it will probably fail
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I'd be very interested to know if you had any success with this. I've just flashed CM9RC2 and loving it, but I'm finding the dialler, contacts and calender apps to be a real let-down compared to the stock Samsung ones (so much so I might have to go back to stock ROM)
No-one has ported them - they 100% work.
I too miss these features (and the music player) enough that I went back to stock roms.
Business Calendar
Xing Player
Free @ g.play
In the Theme & App session there is a MMS.apk modify that look very similar to Samsung default version.
*sorry, wrong post*
A genuine question - we get 4.4.2 so whats so great ?
Looking at wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Android_4.1_Jelly_Bean_.28API_level_16.29 I'm seeing some optimisation, camera UI and multi-user profiles, sure also less susceptible to viruses but did I miss anything major ? Am I wrong to think that the biggest change might be whatever Samsung add on the top ?
Here's a list of what changed on the note 2 with 4.3 now our device is very similar to the note 2 and there will be even more features/fixes added with 4.4.2.
- GALAXY GEAR Support
- TRIM Support (Makes the device much faster)
- Samsung KNOX
- Samsung Wallet (Pre-loaded)
- ANT+ Support
- Improved TouchWiz Launcher (Much less launcher redraws and less lag)
- Better RAM management
- Core UI elements updated to the ones on the Galaxy S4 (Galaxy S4′s theme all over)
- New Samsung Keyboard
- GPU drivers have been updated (Higher GPU benchmark scores)
- New Lockscreen: Multiple Widgets, improved ripple effect than Android 4.1.2, ability to change clock size and set a personal message
- New screen modes (From S4): Adapt Display and Professional Photo
- Daydream
- Driving mode
- Actionable notifications
- Move-to-SD-card feature
- New Camera mode : Sound and Shot
- New Additions in Notification Centre
- Completely revamped Settings UI (Tabbed interface – Exactly like the Galaxy S4)
- Implementation of Voice controls (Let’s you control various parts of the phone using voice commands – Galaxy S4 feature)
- New Samsung Apps: Browser, Calculator, Clock, Contacts, Gallery, Music
- Full screen Samsung apps
- New S-Voice (from Galaxy S4)
- Samsung Wallet comes pre-loaded
- Minor UI tweaks (Contacts app, Flashlight Widget, dialog boxes etc)
- Android 4.3 features – widget lockscreen, daydream
Trim is already there... But support for smart extension apps - most of them use API-level we don't yet have and that's why those apps wont work on our 4.1.2. Biggest thing is to get the device work with smart accessories well and use the full potential they have.
will all this be available to the wi fi models?
elzeus said:
Here's a list of what changed on the note 2 with 4.3 now our device is very similar to the note 2 and there will be even more features/fixes added with 4.4.2.
- GALAXY GEAR Support
- TRIM Support (Makes the device much faster)
- Samsung KNOX
- Samsung Wallet (Pre-loaded)
- ANT+ Support
- Improved TouchWiz Launcher (Much less launcher redraws and less lag)
- Better RAM management
- Core UI elements updated to the ones on the Galaxy S4 (Galaxy S4′s theme all over)
- New Samsung Keyboard
- GPU drivers have been updated (Higher GPU benchmark scores)
- New Lockscreen: Multiple Widgets, improved ripple effect than Android 4.1.2, ability to change clock size and set a personal message
- New screen modes (From S4): Adapt Display and Professional Photo
- Daydream
- Driving mode
- Actionable notifications
- Move-to-SD-card feature
- New Camera mode : Sound and Shot
- New Additions in Notification Centre
- Completely revamped Settings UI (Tabbed interface – Exactly like the Galaxy S4)
- Implementation of Voice controls (Let’s you control various parts of the phone using voice commands – Galaxy S4 feature)
- New Samsung Apps: Browser, Calculator, Clock, Contacts, Gallery, Music
- Full screen Samsung apps
- New S-Voice (from Galaxy S4)
- Samsung Wallet comes pre-loaded
- Minor UI tweaks (Contacts app, Flashlight Widget, dialog boxes etc)
- Android 4.3 features – widget lockscreen, daydream
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I read that all will be made available thru the different carriers.
Yeah...I noticed a lot of excitement about the 4.4 update. Like some not-so-tech-savvy folks, I'm afraid that updates could break more than they fix. I didn't even upgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2, even though my father really wanted to update it for me - now I won't let him touch it. xD I don't want Samsung to add any new "bloatware" or extra apps I don't want and can't uninstall. I've used my mother's Note 3, and I don't like the different outlay of things. I don't use my tablet as a phone at all, so any updates to do with that are irrelevant to me.
Though my tablet hardly lags, the only benefit I could get from an update is if it made everything run even faster and more smoothly. Oh, and if the notification bar were moved to the top of the screen like on the 2014 Note 10.1, so I don't need to keep accidentally hitting it when I draw. All in all, though, I highly doubt I would install this update even if it became available to me.
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Yeah...I noticed a lot of excitement about the 4.4 update. Like some not-so-tech-savvy folks, I'm afraid that updates could break more than they fix. I didn't even upgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2, even though my father really wanted to update it for me - now I won't let him touch it. xD I don't want Samsung to add any new "bloatware" or extra apps I don't want and can't uninstall. I've used my mother's Note 3, and I don't like the different outlay of things. I don't use my tablet as a phone at all, so any updates to do with that are irrelevant to me.
Though my tablet hardly lags, the only benefit I could get from an update is if it made everything run even faster and more smoothly. Oh, and if the notification bar were moved to the top of the screen like on the 2014 Note 10.1, so I don't need to keep accidentally hitting it when I draw. All in all, though, I highly doubt I would install this update even if it became available to me.
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Ever heard about root? I'm pretty sure that all the "so-tech-savvy-folk" are having root on their tablets, and if not, they don't complain about bloatwares or other things. With the right apps, you can uninstall all these apps, install tweaks or other superb apps like Adblocker or something. You can even change the notification bar if you want. A new update is always good and I think everyone should have the opportunity to test it. And if you don't like it, there is still a chance to go back to 4.1.1 or an older firmware. And please don't tell me this all is complicated, there are a lot of great tutorials here on xda and a great community who are ready to help anyone.
I'm really impatient for this update and I will welcome all of samsung's bloatware with little friend titanium backup ^^
Simply the fact 4.4 finally adds some proper support for printers is reason enough for me to stick to cm-11, even though tethering does not work in the current build for my LTE note.
I might go back to stock once Samsung releases this, so I can have everything working again without losing the new features.
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Ever heard about root? I'm pretty sure that all the "so-tech-savvy-folk" are having root on their tablets, and if not, they don't complain about bloatwares or other things. With the right apps, you can uninstall all these apps, install tweaks or other superb apps like Adblocker or something. You can even change the notification bar if you want. A new update is always good and I think everyone should have the opportunity to test it. And if you don't like it, there is still a chance to go back to 4.1.1 or an older firmware. And please don't tell me this all is complicated, there are a lot of great tutorials here on xda and a great community who are ready to help anyone.
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I've heard about root, but no, I like my device the way it is. I didn't complain about having bloatware now, only that I was afraid there would be bloatware AFTER the update, like I heard some people had extra apps installed on their devices after an update that they said didn't change much else. Thank you for being informative, however.
Also, I never said nor was it ever my intention to imply that other people shouldn't have the opportunity to test it. In fact, I think it's great that folks are getting what they've wanted for so long. I was merely expressing my opinion about not wanting updates, which I have as much right to state as anyone who does want their updates.
Exactly what I did when I bought two of these (2012 version) sometime ago. I rooted mine and with Titanium I froze all the bloatware apps. You don't need to be rooted to disable bloatware... Just go to your application manager and disable your apps from there. You should be able to disable most of them. Probably all bloatware, but I don't do it that way so I can't confirm. Still, I always root just because I like installing Titanium, Root Explorer, Xposed Installer, AdAway, etc. Also install a custom recovery so I can backup my image and be able to restore if anything happens.
The device has been rock solid since I got it and I use it daily. The only way I wouldn't upgrade to KitKat is if it came with a locked bootloader. Even then that wouldn't exactly be a showstopper as i don't really play with custom kernels on it. I save that for other devices and computers I use and own. I also wouldn't necessarily expect that on a Wifi only device.
Sent from my Galaxy S4
The biggest thing for me is native apps 2 sd support. I have my 16gb tablet loaded with apps using the storage swap script however it's not perfect as those who use it know, at some point you get a low space warning even when you have plenty of space left. I hope this would no longer be an issue when not running this script.
If you don't care about the update, then don't update the tablet, simple as that. On the other hand, I'm very excited. A lot of things have changed with android between 4.1 and 4.4 and it's a much smoother experience.
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lost disk space fix
PsycloneTW said:
The biggest thing for me is native apps 2 sd support. I have my 16gb tablet loaded with apps using the storage swap script however it's not perfect as those who use it know, at some point you get a low space warning even when you have plenty of space left. I hope this would no longer be an issue when not running this script.
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First sorry for off topic. but this should help you
The low disk usage warning can be fixed..
download a app called disk usage from play store. It will show you Exactly where your data has gone. The data (GHOSTE DATA) is likely a app you use a LOT. look for cache files that are large.
Once you find the app with large amounts of cache. Go to settings / Applications/ FIND THE APP That is the issue. Clear its cache files as needed.
GOOGLE + Seems to be the one that Gives us the most troubles.. But its a app we use a lot. others like maps facebook apps and so on can do the same..
Good Luck.. :good:
MissStreelight said:
Yeah...I noticed a lot of excitement about the 4.4 update. Like some not-so-tech-savvy folks, I'm afraid that updates could break more than they fix. I didn't even upgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2, even though my father really wanted to update it for me - now I won't let him touch it. xD I don't want Samsung to add any new "bloatware" or extra apps I don't want and can't uninstall. I've used my mother's Note 3, and I don't like the different outlay of things. I don't use my tablet as a phone at all, so any updates to do with that are irrelevant to me.
Though my tablet hardly lags, the only benefit I could get from an update is if it made everything run even faster and more smoothly. Oh, and if the notification bar were moved to the top of the screen like on the 2014 Note 10.1, so I don't need to keep accidentally hitting it when I draw. All in all, though, I highly doubt I would install this update even if it became available to me.
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A custom rom with supercharge scripts would give you all the smoothie goodness you ever wanted. And you can put it on stock too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18703418&postcount=5021
good luck!
Android KitKat was a pretty hecking good android version and it's such a distant memory. Someone should make a GSI of android KitKat to get nostalgia on times when we weren't depressed bois looking at memes. Tell me you didn't like the little house in the navigation bar and the light grey tone of the settings menu.
Run it in a VM
Treble is supported since Android 8.0. We cant make a GSI of android versions lower than 8.0
Useless thread.
Maybe, but a KitKat theme and icon set would be eminently do-able.
I actually did some testing of Trying to boot an android image in a VM, Ive tried an x86 cm14 image in limbo_x86, got to the bootloader then nothing, I've got limbo (non x86) installed, but just need to find an arm android image to see if it will boot, if anyone has a link to one, it can't be a GSI though, needs to be a bootable iso
Twisted Prime said:
Android KitKat was a pretty hecking good android version and it's such a distant memory. Someone should make a GSI of android KitKat to get nostalgia on times when we weren't depressed bois looking at memes. Tell me you didn't like the little house in the navigation bar and the light grey tone of the settings menu.
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You cant run an android version which is older as the android version as the device was released.
matze19999 said:
You cant run an android version which is older as the android version as the device was released.
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You actually can. I managed to successfully boot 7.0 on a phone that was running 7.1 out of the box ?. Or even lollipop on MM device although everything was constantly crashing.
But booting KitKat on Oreo device etc. Not gonna happen. We would need probably a lot of kernel changes and new vendor made specifically for KitKat.
And don't forget that only Oreo has GSI support. Adding it to KitKat would require millions of lines of code changes. And even if some Dev wanted to do that.. he wouldn't be able to do it by himself.
There are more reasons why it won't happen but yeah.
I'd love to see it too and sometimes I work on porting some older apps to newest Android versions. If You PM me on Telegram, I can send You Android Donut (I think) Settings app that works (60-70%) even on Android P
I could even probably release a hybrid rom that would contain most Android 1.x apps and it would be based on Phh rom so that it would work on most devices. But there would be things that would most likely never work.
Those are:
System UI
Settings would be kinda broken.
And lots of other bugs that would annoy an average user.
What should work:
Settings(basic functionality + UI)
1.x Apps like camera, calendar, calculator, browser etc
Ringtones
Wallpaper
Maybe launcher
Themed Status bar and navigation bar with some old icons
Maybe system in general could be themed slightly to look more old.
Old Android Market and old YouTube etc but they could be buggy because of server changes etc.
I think I'll try it tomorrow just for fun and will post screens to my group.
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You actually can. I managed to successfully boot 7.0 on a phone that was running 7.1 out of the box . Or even lollipop on MM device although everything was constantly crashing.
But booting KitKat on Oreo device etc. Not gonna happen. We would need probably a lot of kernel changes and new vendor made specifically for KitKat.
And don't forget that only Oreo has GSI support. Adding it to KitKat would require millions of lines of code changes. And even if some Dev wanted to do that.. he wouldn't be able to do it by himself.
There are more reasons why it won't happen but yeah.
I'd love to see it too and sometimes I work on porting some older apps to newest Android versions. If You PM me on Telegram, I can send You Android Donut (I think) Settings app that works (60-70%) even on Android P
I could even probably release a hybrid rom that would contain most Android 1.x apps and it would be based on Phh rom so that it would work on most devices. But there would be things that would most likely never work.
Those are:
System UI
Settings would be kinda broken.
And lots of other bugs that would annoy an average user.
What should work:
Settings(basic functionality + UI)
1.x Apps like camera, calendar, calculator, browser etc
Ringtones
Wallpaper
Maybe launcher
Themed Status bar and navigation bar with some old icons
Maybe system in general could be themed slightly to look more old.
Old Android Market and old YouTube etc but they could be buggy because of server changes etc.
I think I'll try it tomorrow just for fun and will post screens to my group.
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1.x GSI
dylanneve1 said:
1.x GSI
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Hybrid 1.x GSI.
But hey! Every Dev project is a fun project!
Edit: 1.6 was kinda buggy and boring so I decided to make a "Hybrid KitKat GSI" If anyone's interested, check my group for screenshots .
Edit2: Posted an early alpha in my group. (Not going to post it on XDA just to avoid breaking rules, if there are any)
ProtoDeVNan0 said:
Hybrid 1.x GSI.
But hey! Every Dev project is a fun project!
Edit: 1.6 was kinda buggy and boring so I decided to make a "Hybrid KitKat GSI" If anyone's interested, check my group for screenshots .
Edit2: Posted an early alpha in my group. (Not going to post it on XDA just to avoid breaking rules, if there are any)
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Link?
MAME Arcade said:
Link?
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XDA doesn't allow posting Telegram links anymore. So just find one of my rom threads and it hopefully still contains a link to my group. But I think that we can get best kitkat experience by buying some older phone for cheap. KitKat launcher doesn't even support 19:9 aspect ratio so it looks kinda ugly on some devices. I know it would be cool to run KitKat on latest smartphones but Android has changed so much that even theming it to look like KitKat is pretty difficult. And some images need resizing cause they were designed to work on let's say 720p screens and lower. So when You use them on 1080p or 1440p device, icons look tiny.
You could probably create AVD with KitKat, install VNC on it and stream it to Your smartphone.
Twisted Prime said:
Android KitKat was a pretty hecking good android version and it's such a distant memory. Someone should make a GSI of android KitKat to get nostalgia on times when we weren't depressed bois looking at memes. Tell me you didn't like the little house in the navigation bar and the light grey tone of the settings menu.
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I SUPPORT UR iDEA!
btw,i miss the xperia's UI of ICS 4.0.4
ProtoDeVNan0 said:
You actually can. I managed to successfully boot 7.0 on a phone that was running 7.1 out of the box . Or even lollipop on MM device although everything was constantly crashing.
But booting KitKat on Oreo device etc. Not gonna happen. We would need probably a lot of kernel changes and new vendor made specifically for KitKat.
And don't forget that only Oreo has GSI support. Adding it to KitKat would require millions of lines of code changes. And even if some Dev wanted to do that.. he wouldn't be able to do it by himself.
There are more reasons why it won't happen but yeah.
I'd love to see it too and sometimes I work on porting some older apps to newest Android versions. If You PM me on Telegram, I can send You Android Donut (I think) Settings app that works (60-70%) even on Android P
I could even probably release a hybrid rom that would contain most Android 1.x apps and it would be based on Phh rom so that it would work on most devices. But there would be things that would most likely never work.
Those are:
System UI
Settings would be kinda broken.
And lots of other bugs that would annoy an average user.
What should work:
Settings(basic functionality + UI)
1.x Apps like camera, calendar, calculator, browser etc
Ringtones
Wallpaper
Maybe launcher
Themed Status bar and navigation bar with some old icons
Maybe system in general could be themed slightly to look more old.
Old Android Market and old YouTube etc but they could be buggy because of server changes etc.
I think I'll try it tomorrow just for fun and will post screens to my group.
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Wow!
Have u build it?
Btw, i also like this idea!