Touchless Control? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This feature of the Moto X is one I really want. Any chance we can get this working on on N4?

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It's about some kind a chip. Not software.

Kaanu74 said:
It's about some kind a chip. Not software.
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Hmm, I have heard that one before. Remember when Google Now first came out? There will all sorts of rumors that it could only run on certain phones and so forth. Do we have any evidence to point otherwise in this case?

webmaster said:
Hmm, I have heard that one before. Remember when Google Now first came out? There will all sorts of rumors that it could only run on certain phones and so forth. Do we have any evidence to point otherwise in this case?
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I found this one
http://m.androidauthority.com/moto-x-language-processing-chip-238522/
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I'm not a developer but i know enough that its not impossible. It would kill the battery though!
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Given that the MotoX is stock Android with the exception of this feature, I might just get one. I have had the N4 since October (November?) when it first came out.....

Can some1 post it for Nexus 4 ?!
Motorola has made the app available for droids and moto x on Play store ::
See " Touchless Control " on play store ..
or here is the link ... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.audiomonitor
Can some1 port it for our lovely nexus 4 ?!?!

Yes please. That would be epic. The only thing I like about Moto X

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.RSen.OpenMic
This is probably the closest we have to Touchless Controls as of now.

As a proud Nexus 4 owner, running the Nexus 5's Google Experience Launcher, and unrooted, I can categorically declare that the Nexus 5's touchless control with the always on "ok google" hotword detection works flawlessly on the Nexus 4.
You need to make sure you have the GEL apk file installed, and the latest play store update of Google Search.
You need to make sure your voice search settings are set to US English (just like on the N5).
Admittedly, if you, like me, installed the packages from the N5 system dump, you would have found that the hotword worked, but the search would crash.
However that seems to be fixed and working perfectly in the latest Play Store Google Search update, which incorporates the GEL in its code.
So you just need those three requirements I've listed above, and the touchless control ought to work perfectly on the Nexus 4.
Well, it is on mine... I've just started using it today, and it has not crashed on me yet! Although, it remains to be seen what a drain on battery it may be...

JC1988AD said:
As a proud Nexus 4 owner, running the Nexus 5's Google Experience Launcher, and unrooted, I can categorically declare that the Nexus 5's touchless control with the always on "ok google" hotword detection works flawlessly on the Nexus 4.
You need to make sure you have the GEL apk file installed, and the latest play store update of Google Search.
You need to make sure your voice search settings are set to US English (just like on the N5).
Admittedly, if you, like me, installed the packages from the N5 system dump, you would have found that the hotword worked, but the search would crash.
However that seems to be fixed and working perfectly in the latest Play Store Google Search update, which incorporates the GEL in its code.
So you just need those three requirements I've listed above, and the touchless control ought to work perfectly on the Nexus 4.
Well, it is on mine... I've just started using it today, and it has not crashed on me yet! Although, it remains to be seen what a drain on battery it may be...
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What they meant is even when the screen is off or using a different app.

eksasol said:
What they meant is even when the screen is off or using a different app.
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I see, my bad, I've seen similar things posted about the N5 as well... People saying the N5's version of touchless control being hardware dependent, and not available on the N4.
Just got over excited about getting it to work on my N4, hah!

JC1988AD said:
I see, my bad, I've seen similar things posted about the N5 as well... People saying the N5's version of touchless control being hardware dependent, and not available on the N4.
Just got over excited about getting it to work on my N4, hah!
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Some MotoX feature is still possible. If you used the latest AOKP nightly (for 4.3) they developed their own ActiveDisplay feature.

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How would I imitate the new Moto X voice feature on the Nexus 4?

Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
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AlexWekell said:
Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
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Just be patience and wait a few weeks.
I´m sure some developers (and Google itself) will port this feature to the nexus 4
If they even Google make this feature for the Nexus devices, I prolly won't use it because it'll prolly eat too much battery. It has to be on all the time trying to listen to your voice. Plus if you don't use Google now search feature often this feature won't benefit you.
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AlexWekell said:
Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
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yes you can do it combining 2 apps , tasker and autovoice.
Hopefully the ROM is ported since the dual moto x is optimized significantly better than the wasteland software Google put in this thing. The optimization is so ridiculous that the dual krait outperforms the quad S600. Yes the moto x is faster cause the moto engineers don't just push device into the market free fall style. /morning rant
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rayiskon said:
yes you can do it combining 2 apps , tasker and autovoice.
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But you still need some kind of trigger.
The "magic" of the moto X is the "always on" microphone with a special DSP which is capable to do the voice recognition while consuming next to nothing of energy. While current phones would be forced to do this via general CPU and would kill a battery in a pinch.
Depending on the implementation this even could be a win for privacy, since the processing is taking place locally in the phone and not somewhere "in the cloud". I would be very uncomfortable with a phone which constantly listens to me and relays it to the el goog, microsoft, apple or somebody else.
AlexWekell said:
Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
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Its an updated Google now...I received the update this morning then when you open up Google now there is a slide informing you to say OK Google now and some sample questions. Even before the update all you need to do is say Google and you can speak to it.
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draugaz said:
But you still need some kind of trigger.
The "magic" of the moto X is the "always on" microphone with a special DSP which is capable to do the voice recognition while consuming next to nothing of energy. While current phones would be forced to do this via general CPU and would kill a battery in a pinch.
Depending on the implementation this even could be a win for privacy, since the processing is taking place locally in the phone and not somewhere "in the cloud". I would be very uncomfortable with a phone which constantly listens to me and relays it to the el goog, microsoft, apple or somebody else.
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He didn't ask if it will consume more battery on a nexus4, the same as i didn't ask why the hell would anyone want to put his nexus4 in an "always listening" mode, he wanted to know if it was possible to implement
And you don't need a trigger with the combination i mentioned, voice commands work even with screen off.
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Simple answer: wait.
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Ace42 said:
Hopefully the ROM is ported since the dual moto x is optimized significantly better than the wasteland software Google put in this thing. The optimization is so ridiculous that the dual krait outperforms the quad S600. Yes the moto x is faster cause the moto engineers don't just push device into the market free fall style. /morning rant
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And you're basing that performance from a crappy benchmark that couldn't even see the device had a dual core chip.
There is no magic sauce here. Faulty testing.
albundy2010 said:
And you're basing that performance from a crappy benchmark that couldn't even see the device had a dual core chip.
There is no magic sauce here. Faulty testing.
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I wasn't serious. :silly: And I tried that app and only get 18K which is disappointing.
Ace42 said:
Hopefully the ROM is ported since the dual moto x is optimized significantly better than the wasteland software Google put in this thing. The optimization is so ridiculous that the dual krait outperforms the quad S600. Yes the moto x is faster cause the moto engineers don't just push device into the market free fall style. /morning rant
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Seriously, if you are gonna whine in every thread because you are not happy with your phone, just sell it and get a different phone. The N4 is not for everyone and obviously you are one of those it is not for.
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Yes, Please
This would be the most awesome feature ever. Imagine asking for the weather before you even sit up in the morning.
AlexWekell said:
Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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check out this app folks, is under development
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.RSen.OpenMic
AlexWekell said:
Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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Check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eheFXIIF1Ss

Ok Google Touchless is not waking up Nexus 7

Hello!
A friend of mine, and i, each have a 16GB WiFi Nexus 7 2013.
While the screen is OFF (Nexus sleeping), my friend's nexus can be woken up by saying "Ok Google".
Mine ONLY works if my nexus has the screen on already (I dont have lock screen enabled).
His is completely bone stock and recently updated OTA with Kit Kat 4.4 KRT16S already.
I have TWRP recovery, and had 4.3 Stock Root.
NOW, i kept the custom recovery, but i flashed Stock Kit Kat 4.4 KRT16S NO ROOT.
and jealous (and lazy).. and i want my nexus to operate just like my friends... so either somethings wrong or maybe lemme know what i gotta flash. Thank you for your time.
Weird that your friends can wake even when the screen is not on... Never heard of that ( unless you have another app.)
What's launcher does your friend have installed? And make sure he does not have any other apps that enable him to do this. Check out "open mic+"
dragonboydbboy said:
Weird that your friends can wake even when the screen is not on... Never heard of that ( unless you have another app.)
What's launcher does your friend have installed? And make sure he does not have any other apps that enable him to do this. Check out "open mic+"
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He is using the stock launcher that came with Kit Kat.
I couldn't even get it to work on the stock launcher, so i decided to look for and install the Google Launcher. I even tried reinstalling Google Now. I have looked at Open Mic+ in the past when i had a custom ROM, but i rather have the real thing from Google.
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He is using the stock launcher that came with Kit Kat.
I couldn't even get it to work on the stock launcher, so i decided to look for and install the Google Launcher. I even tried reinstalling Google Now. I have looked at Open Mic+ in the past when i had a custom ROM, but i rather have the real thing from Google.
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Well the real thing from the moto x (always listening) would require source code to be merged to work.
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Your friend isn't running stock. Stop making up stories.
ElihuRodriguez said:
He is using the stock launcher that came with Kit Kat.
I couldn't even get it to work on the stock launcher, so i decided to look for and install the Google Launcher. I even tried reinstalling Google Now. I have looked at Open Mic+ in the past when i had a custom ROM, but i rather have the real thing from Google.
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If he is using the stock launcher that came with the nexus 7 and 4.4, he should not even be able to wake the device from thee home screen, much less a locked device... Only from Google now.
Only the moto x (and other Motorola phones with the special chip) should be able to wake from locked device. Not even nexus 5 can do that... Don't know what's up with your friends tablet
Try this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.RSen.OpenMic.Pheonix
Saythis said:
Try this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.RSen.OpenMic.Pheonix
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And say goodbye to your battery :silly:
Either troll, or is being trolled by said friend
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Pfeffernuss said:
And say goodbye to your battery :silly:
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He's not asking about battery life. He wants MotoX-like voice commands while it's asleep.
Saythis said:
He's not asking about battery life. He wants MotoX-like voice commands while it's asleep.
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Yup, that's the point, it won't sleep anymore. Anyway, just saying, to each his own.

Moto G Kitkat Review

Those who got the update share your review here
I think american users must be still asleep?
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I'm in the us with a us amazon version and still Haven't received the update. So when I do, sure I'll give a review as well as a flashable version.
Moto Gee :-¢
davwman said:
I'm in the us with a us amazon version and still Haven't received the update. So when I do, sure I'll give a review as well as a flashable version.
Moto Gee :-¢
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0_0. ALL EYES ON YOU 0_0
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As they should be.
Moto Gee :-¢
davwman said:
I'm in the us with a us amazon version and still Haven't received the update. So when I do, sure I'll give a review as well as a flashable version.
Moto Gee :-¢
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i tried the guide which helped you flash the us sw on the EU version of the device, and it worked. I was running the US version for 1 day, tried updating, nothing worked, i kept it for about 26 hrs and no update popped up, i would've pulled the update and uploaded it. Now i returned to the EU version so i can benefit from the update when it rolls our for the EU versions. I can't say i'm disappointed, moto G is an awesome device, cant wait for january
I'll give my impressions once I actually get KitKat. I pre-ordered the US GSM model direct from Motorola, and I live right smack dab in the middle of the USA.....no update yet. =(
Improvements in camera ?
Any improvements in camera in this update ?
bharath78910 said:
Any improvements in camera in this update ?
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I doubt it, good cameras come from using good quality lenses and sensors, motorola skimped in the camera hardware for the price point knowing that most ppl just upload to facebook or ruin with instagram.
bharath78910 said:
Any improvements in camera in this update ?
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The camera is much faster and the pictures seem to come out sharper with better focus.
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just updated
phone seems to be a little bit snappier. but cant really compare yet as i just got the phone today, and updated after unlocking the BL and root. also i think a new addition in the cloud print option. camera is way better than JB (rear)
US - Global GSM
PottsyNZ said:
I doubt it, good cameras come from using good quality lenses and sensors, motorola skimped in the camera hardware for the price point knowing that most ppl just upload to facebook or ruin with instagram.
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The camera is most certainly improved with KitKat. The pictures seems to be much sharper than before.
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PottsyNZ said:
I doubt it, good cameras come from using good quality lenses and sensors, motorola skimped in the camera hardware for the price point knowing that most ppl just upload to facebook or ruin with instagram.
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Nice try. There is nothing wrong with the camera hardware in this phone. There has been some sort of aggressive software filter that blurred the photos in 4.3 but it is fixed in kitkat. Perhaps you should see for yourself next time.
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Anyone got before-after pictures to compare?
I have a XT1033 and after updating to kitkat I got no SIM signal..
So, got back to 4.3...
Just updated my Moto G, but the Google now command "OK Google" doesn't work from outside Google Now. I have to click on the button first to enter now, and then it works. Wonder if this feature is disabled on Moto G, or if I'm doing something wrong. Was kinda excited to be able to use my phone completely hands-free while driving etc.
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Just updated my Moto G, but the Google now command "OK Google" doesn't work from outside Google Now. I have to click on the button first to enter now, and then it works. Wonder if this feature is disabled on Moto G, or if I'm doing something wrong. Was kinda excited to be able to use my phone completely hands-free while driving etc.
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The always listening feature is Moto X only, unless i dont understand what you are asking for
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endesmus said:
Just updated my Moto G, but the Google now command "OK Google" doesn't work from outside Google Now. I have to click on the button first to enter now, and then it works. Wonder if this feature is disabled on Moto G, or if I'm doing something wrong. Was kinda excited to be able to use my phone completely hands-free while driving etc.
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I believe that if you get the GEL (Google Experience Launcher), it should work.
rogeriorp said:
I believe that if you get the GEL (Google Experience Launcher), it should work.
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Thanks it works now but not when the phone is inactive (black screen). I heard that Moto X can wake up at "OK Google" even when inactive, and I was hoping installing Kitkat would introduce this feature to Moto G, but I suppose I was wrong.
Thanks anyway!
^^that is MOTO X *ONLY* feature known as Touchless controls, which uses special X8 core on soc to always listen from you
However devs will never sit quitely
We have Open Mic+ and Utter!
Try those apps.

ok google

not sure if this has been discussed yet (could not find much in net either) but some say that the ok google voice commands is not available on the htc one m8. i got mine yesterday through telstra (australia) and have everything stock. today by pure accident i discovered that if you hold the home button down an option to swipe up to google appears. also when in lock screen there is a arrow below the lock symbol that does the same thing. it doesnt seem to be always active like other phones but at least it is there and it works.
ps. absolutely love this phone. upgraded from htc one xl (australian 4g one x) and have to say what a massively huge improvement.
You need to say "ok google" from within Google Search/Now then it works, but that also depends on your local language.
The chipset is very capable of running in a low power mode and waking to voice commands "alright m8" would be awesome, but HTC have chosen not to add it or not add it yet.
There doesn't seem to be stock way of customising the swipe up to get to Google now as there was with the One but HTC are very open to feature suggestions!
Electronic Punk said:
You need to say "ok google" from within Google Search/Now then it works, but that also depends on your local language.
The chipset is very capable of running in a low power mode and waking to voice commands "alright m8" would be awesome, but HTC have chosen not to add it or not add it yet.
There doesn't seem to be stock way of customising the swipe up to get to Google now as there was with the One but HTC are very open to feature suggestions!
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So I take it the search widget doesn't work like the Nexus 5 homescreen? The S5 does...
Maybe, I did see someone demonstrate it very quickly but its not a widget I use and did feel inconsistant!
It won't wake up the device as we see on the Moto X at least.
Theres an app called open mic in the app store that lets you wake up pretty much any phone on jb+ via voice command to google search ill text people by talking to my pocket if i put the sensitivity to max but it wakes up to alot no matter what your wakeup phrase is "you can change it.".
You'll be able to activate it from your homescreen if you were to install the GEL launcher. If, however, you wish to keep Sense then you'll either need to do without it or use one of the apps like Open Mic (mentioned above) to do so
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There doesn't seem to be stock way of customising the swipe up to get to Google now as there was with the One but HTC are very open to feature suggestions!
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Swipe up gives me Google Now on my bone stock M8?
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Swipe up gives me Google Now on my bone stock M8?
Regards,
Dave
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Correct, but the M7 with its less buttons used to have a few options, this time around you get what you are given
boofhead said:
not sure if this has been discussed yet (could not find much in net either) but some say that the ok google voice commands is not available on the htc one m8. i got mine yesterday through telstra (australia) and have everything stock. today by pure accident i discovered that if you hold the home button down an option to swipe up to google appears. also when in lock screen there is a arrow below the lock symbol that does the same thing. it doesnt seem to be always active like other phones but at least it is there and it works.
ps. absolutely love this phone. upgraded from htc one xl (australian 4g one x) and have to say what a massively huge improvement.
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Can'you add the Google now widget to the home screen? I like that feature. I don't have the m8 (yet)... Just curious.
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stevedebi said:
Can'you add the Google now widget to the home screen? I like that feature. I don't have the m8 (yet)... Just curious.
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Widgets are still avaliable.
What is different is with the M7 with physical buttons, you could swipe up from the home button, or long press depending on your settings.
With the M8 with virtual buttons you just swipe up from the home button just like you do on the nexus devices.
Basically the buttons and google now behave like they do on a nexus.
It's works great haha, I was wondering what can google now do, now it's useful:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
I found this by accident too. I was happy about it.
You can also install the google now launcher if you want it to always be active. The search widget doesn't listen unless yo tap the mike icon.
So how can the S5 have hotword detection active on the touchwiz launcher ? Can that functionality be brought to Sense?
thefoss said:
So how can the S5 have hotword detection active on the touchwiz launcher ? Can that functionality be brought to Sense?
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It's up to the OEM to include that. Samsung decided to make that part of the SOC active for listening while HTC did not, probably out of battery concerns.
bobruels44 said:
It's up to the OEM to include that. Samsung decided to make that part of the SOC active for listening while HTC did not, probably out of battery concerns.
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But it works with the GEL launcher. In the M8. I wonder if it's something a Dev could implement
HTC one Google edition has this if u want that feature buy the Google edition ppl ***** about everything
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daorderdillon said:
THE HTC One Google edition has this, if YOU want that feature buy the Google edition, PEOPLE ***** about everything.
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Not everyone can afford to do that, we're not all rich like you. Can we get a donation from you to help us do that so you won't have to listen to us peasants?
I want to say OK google.
californiarailroader said:
Not everyone can afford to do that, we're not all rich like you. Can we get a donation from you to help us do that so you won't have to listen to us peasants?
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Everyone know it was only $50 more at the time and also everyone know only the Google edition will have that feature if they were reading correctly
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[In Progress] Enabling "OK Google" While Screen if Off [help wanted!]

Friends--
If you're like me, you've found the native 'ok google' prompt to be a much faster / more elegant solution on lollipop than the moto middleman.
We can disable the moto software and enable the google implementation, however we are never given the option for it to work while the screen is off (and unplugged). We know that the hardware is there, so I am assuming that there is a flag somewhere that we need to change.
I'm going to start exploring on my own, but anyone else who can help look / has ideas on where to look, i figured this thread could be a group development project on this.
Looking forward to this!
Anyone have a thought on where to start looking?
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After disabling Moto Voice, go to the Google Settings app -> Search & Now -> Voice -> "Ok Google" Detection.
There you can set "Ok Google" to respond then the device is locked.
tobeannouncd said:
After disabling Moto Voice, go to the Google Settings app -> Search & Now -> Voice -> "Ok Google" Detection.
There you can set "Ok Google" to respond then the device is locked.
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Thanks this works better then the Native Moto App
I still believe it won't work with the screen off and unplugged!!!!
Its possible.
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Selected that and still doesn't work with screen off
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Selected that and still doesn't work with screen off
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Sorry, you have to hit the power button first and then it'll work. I forgot about that and couldn't test at the time I posted.
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Yes. So this is exactly my point, and exactly what I'm trying to figure out
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It's terrible and unfair! Motorola says they are giving the "Pure" Android Experience, no bloatware, just adding "Value Added" Software. Thank you Motorola, but give me a CHOICE! If you are FORCING your software on me, you are no better than Verizon!
This phone HAS the Instant On Hardware, and Lollipop Fully supports it. Again, thank you Motorola for your enhancements to Google Now (for those that like them). BUT for those of us that that don't, crippling Android Functionality is NOT the answer!!!
Give it back!!!
Cyber-Anna said:
It's terrible and unfair! Motorola says they are giving the "Pure" Android Experience, no bloatware, just adding "Value Added" Software. Thank you Motorola, but give me a CHOICE! If you are FORCING your software on me, you are no better than Verizon!
This phone HAS the Instant On Hardware, and Lollipop Fully supports it. Again, thank you Motorola for your enhancements to Google Now (for those that like them). BUT for those of us that that don't, crippling Android Functionality is NOT the answer!!!
Give it back!!!
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Then get a different phone that has the hardware....stop your crying.
bongostl said:
Friends--
If you're like me, you've found the native 'ok google' prompt to be a much faster / more elegant solution on lollipop than the moto middleman.
We can disable the moto software and enable the google implementation, however we are never given the option for it to work while the screen is off (and unplugged). We know that the hardware is there, so I am assuming that there is a flag somewhere that we need to change.
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I look forward to your findings. Being able to use Ok Google from the screen off state -while- unplugged would be nice to have. I'd bet dollar to doughnuts that moto disabled the necessary flag in order to allow their Voice middleware to function properly - without giving it the ability to set it back when Voice is disabled.
I think I've read something somewhere about flag 199? It's likely I'm mistaken though.
Good luck!
matt99017d said:
Then get a different phone that has the hardware....stop your crying.
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If you were as smart as your uncalled for, snide comment, you would KNOW it DOES have the hardware!
Cyber-Anna said:
If you were as smart as your uncalled for, snide comment, you would KNOW it DOES have the hardware!
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I realize that it does have the hardware....that is proprietary to Motorola. I was suggesting that you find a different phone that suits your needs.
Your right, it was uncalled for. Just as much as your baby rant.
So, back to being helpful. Have you tried tasker at all? I know there is a way with xposed and tasker, but we don't have xposed as of yet...
Cyber-Anna said:
It's terrible and unfair! Motorola says they are giving the "Pure" Android Experience, no bloatware, just adding "Value Added" Software. Thank you Motorola, but give me a CHOICE! If you are FORCING your software on me, you are no better than Verizon!
This phone HAS the Instant On Hardware, and Lollipop Fully supports it. Again, thank you Motorola for your enhancements to Google Now (for those that like them). BUT for those of us that that don't, crippling Android Functionality is NOT the answer!!!
Give it back!!!
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The hardware in the Moto X 2014 was designed to work with Motorola's implementation of screen-off voice recognition. Unfortunately the phone came out just a little too early to have the "standard" Google implementation since phones supporting that did not start coming out until ~1 month later.
It's not that easy
The X8 processing core in this device comes with a Natural Language Computing Processor NLCP core built in, which is a proprietary low power implementation. Therefore, the software portion that handles the output from the core is custom made by Motorola, and is not something that you find in the Android source tree, because a low power LCP core like the X8 never existed before. Similarly, the 'Ok Google' implementation is Google's proprietary implementation, part of the Google Suite of Applications, only to be installed as add-ons on devices that are compatible with 'Android Compatibility Definition Document'. The apps provided by Google usually do not undergo any OEM customizations.
To conclude, it's not as easy as enabling/ disabling a flag in the Android source to link to proprietary implementations from different vendors together.
P.S - Google's 'Ok Google' may work from from all the screens including a secure lock screen, but it cannot leverage the low power LCP core. This will impact your battery life !!!
trrubicon06 said:
Its possible.
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Yeah got it to work yesterday (with the screen off) for about 2 hours. Then it started not to work at all. Went back to Moto native app and its hit and miss with the app. hopefully it get fix cause its pretty annoying that the reason why i got this phone is because of this feature.
Not only the response is slower and unstable but it is limited to a single person..
Native ok google never fails... Its quicker.. And allows my girlfriend to give commands to the phone on the car along with me...
This thread has a simple tasker profile to do this. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1rfqsj/psa_note_3_has_always_listening_out_of_the_box/
That doesn't help me, since I would like the option to use both at the same time. What chip is the nexus 6 using, I thought they were close. Both TI dsps right? Would it be possible to trick now into thinking it is on a Nexus 6?
ajanu said:
This thread has a simple tasker profile to do this. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1rfqsj/psa_note_3_has_always_listening_out_of_the_box/
That doesn't help me, since I would like the option to use both at the same time. What chip is the nexus 6 using, I thought they were close. Both TI dsps right? Would it be possible to trick now into thinking it is on a Nexus 6?
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Its the exact same chip. We should be able to have that feature working on ours as well. We'd have a better chance if we reach out to Motorola to make it possible. Just like switching on the ambient display, they should let us chose between google now or moto voice!

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