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If you've had a sony ericsson you might remember the app MyPhoneExplorer.
It had some pretty neat features such as when the phone was connected (bluetooth) and there was an incoming call it would display callerID and even give you the options of accept/reject. It also showed incoming sms and allowed you to reply and send sms from the pc (thru the phone ofc).
Part of that functionallity can already be used by using the laptop/pc as the phones headset. Tho not exactly the same and besides i don't even have a mic on my laptop....
Anyways the sms-feature would be a real star since it enables you to be beyond lazy and use the laptop when the mobile device is too far away. Besides it's much more comfy writing on a pc-keyb than the tytns...
Are there any applications mimicing or enhancing those functions?
Cheers!
i do miss the coolness of the apps available for the ericsson. it seems that the WM5 platform is SO lamely developed in comparison. i mean we have thse crazy powerful devices but we're utilizing like 5% of what we could be using... wish there were more developers.
anything from those apps that allow you to do everything from the pc (like myphoneexplorer), webcam functionality with your pc are two that ar eon top of my head, but i've thought of quite a few other things that could be implemented only through software, as the hardware is already present!
Windows Platform is better
Even I have migrated from the Sony Ericsson Platform.(SE P910i) It is true that visual appeal of Symbian is superior and coolness of some apps is great. But windows platform is altogether more powerful and it's evolving at more faster . It is more developmental friendly and I hope you will have to understand that windows platform is more likely PDA oriented than Phone as opposed to Sony Ericsson. Be optimistic.
Here is all drivers & other files for SE K750i:
http://www.topsony.com/forum/cmps_index.php?page=Download
Is this possible to develop a Win Mobile ROM base on this drivers?
Sina™ said:
Here is all drivers & other files for SE K750:
http://www.topsony.com/forum/cmps_index.php?page=Download
Is this possible to develop a Win Mobile ROM base on this drivers?
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DUDE
Are you serious????
K750i is a great phone(I have one)... but not that good...
best regards
mikhe69 said:
DUDE
Are you serious????
K750i is a great phone(I have one)... but not that good...
best regards
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I've got one aswell.. It runs perfectly without Windows Mobile.. Hope it does with tho
I have an SE K750i (Black)
SE K750i hardware specs is near to HTC Typhoon.
Also the OS of K750i is: OSE:
http://enea.se/templates/Extension____12765.aspx
SE K750i hack software:
http://www.topsony.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=366
Win Mobile ROM upgrade for SE K750i can be the new software revolution.
Omg....
well even if what you are proposing was possible due to driver availibility and compatible hardware, the phone wouldn't be much of a use, video driver will be sure incompatible with any WM build and there would be lack of hardware for input and stuff
If any1 could make that working, i'll eat my shoes
Yes, you're right, but...
The SE K750i input hardware is very similar to HTC Feeler.(Only lack of 1 key).
HTC Feeler is just same like HTC Typhoon.
List of K750i camdriver & dispdriver here:
http://www.topsony.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=325
Is there someway to develop Win Mobile drivers base on those drivers?
Well the recompilation 'd be suicidal, but i don't see, how you could be able to decompile the entire GDFSs' and EEPROM for the k750 and extract the necessary drivers for thinks like entire SE based radio stack (GSM and stuff) separatley, so the new WM based stack could be engeneered and implemented as radio stack in rom. The video driver and it's kernell shouldn't be that much of a problem, so if this idea is possible, you could only build a wm2k3 based phoneless rom, without BT and GSM support. And that's just for starters, you'd have to decompile the EEPROM and EROM's to get all the stuff necessary, just to get the entire core of the system working, so the hardware such as CPU could recieve instructions... it's difficult as hell
From my point of view, it would be easier, to compile this stuff for linux, the instructions are more similar to linux, than to WM based core
IDK...
I prefer Win Mobile instead of Linux.
If there is no way, I prefer Linux instead of OSE.
Oh and new finding - i just tried to flash blank rom using Cruiser, and there is no way in hell, you could make something as bootloader for the K750i, so only way, how to get WM to the device is either buying a SE TOOL Box, which costs around 100 Euros, or get some sort of davinciteam.org or wotan.com like server->client based flashers. For instance XS++ is able to read and WRITE the k750i's EEPROM and EROM, but unfortunatley it couldn't write our desired 16/32bit filesystem...
maybe if someone 'd be able to make a virtual bootloader as the phone OS with full internal ROM/RAM read/write capabality - that way we could use normal flashing procedures, perhaps modifing Typhoons or some other similar machines SPL, but still, i don't see how you could push them into the device to behave as we want it to.
Yes, i know you can extract them, but u know, what hexadecimal gibrrish is the GSM driver? i don't think so - SE TOOL box is the option - it has sort of predefined links in it's hardware, it basicly simulates the devices RAM/ROM on the run, cuz the devices (SE has no such thing as bootloader or something, the system either runs or it doesn't) can't just "write the stuff on the fly"
OK...
Just tell me the name of all softwares you need.
OK i need someone to make a virtual bootloader / hardware bootloader (SE TOOL Box based) for SE devices, correct me someone, if i'm wrong, but i don't see any other way, how to get entire WM core to SE K750i. The ROM itself wouldn't be a problem, but since there's no SPL, we can't use absolutley different filesystem, than OSE uses
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Oh and new finding - i just tried to flash blank rom using Cruiser, and there is no way in hell, you could make something as bootloader for the K750i, so only way, how to get WM to the device is either buying a SE TOOL Box, which costs around 100 Euros, or get some sort of davinciteam.org or wotan.com like server->client based flashers. For instance XS++ is able to read and WRITE the k750i's EEPROM and EROM, but unfortunatley it couldn't write our desired 16/32bit filesystem...
maybe if someone 'd be able to make a virtual bootloader as the phone OS with full internal ROM/RAM read/write capabality - that way we could use normal flashing procedures, perhaps modifing Typhoons or some other similar machines SPL, but still, i don't see how you could push them into the device to behave as we want it to.
Yes, i know you can extract them, but u know, what hexadecimal gibrrish is the GSM driver? i don't think so - SE TOOL box is the option - it has sort of predefined links in it's hardware, it basicly simulates the devices RAM/ROM on the run, cuz the devices (SE has no such thing as bootloader or something, the system either runs or it doesn't) can't just "write the stuff on the fly"
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We need high-end SE tech guy.
Did you visit the official OSE website?
As a matter of fact, i have a friend working in GS Mobile as SE service guy (it's major HTC and SE devices service center in our country) i'll be seeing him on sunday for a couple of beers, so i'll tell him about our idea, he'll let me borrow their tool box 4 sure and he might even have few other suggestions but since he's a hardware mechanic, i'm sceptic about his knowledge of the software issues - as i said before, the OSE either runs, or it doesen't and what that means for him? Dead phone? -> se tool box -> GDFS, ROM, Filesystem flash -> phone alive, but maybe he knows stuff i don't - we don't talk about software a lot, i personally hate OSE and he hates WM so ... (It has gone so far, that when i bought my Touch, he took a deep red (bordeaux for *****es) w910i from his job and showed off all day ). Maybe some of his coleagues from the HTC division could help us out with the bootloader issue
Great...
Thanks a hell...
Also, the CPU clock of HTC Feeler is 200 MHz, SE K750i is 110 MHz
The SE K750i display is little small, no problem?
What about FM radio & infrared & J2ME?
The display size is 220*176 pixels, that is (at least i think) sufficient for rescaling the ui, motorola mpxsomethin220something has kinda same resolution (at least i think (again))
You can forget FM radio and IrDA, J2ME shouldn't be a problem
Thanks...
I really don't use both FM radio and IrDA.
Yes, K750i display: size: 28 x 35 mm resolution: 176 x 220 pixels, color quality: 18 bit, color support: 262K.
Since the K750i and W800i are essentially two phones with exactly same hardware specifications, soft modifications are available to convert a K750i to a W800i (software-wise). It will then feature the Walkman feature which is supposed to be available to W series phone only.
http://www.topsony.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49
& then upgrading to Win Mobile.
Using Far Manager to hack/flash/patch/customize Sony Ericsson K750i CID49 mobile phones
http://denilsonsa.sh.nu/~denilson/k750i_cid49/using_far.html
K750i ROM size is 34MB.
Enough for Win Mobile ROM upgrade?
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As a matter of fact, i have a friend working in GS Mobile as SE service guy (it's major HTC and SE devices service center in our country) i'll be seeing him on sunday for a couple of beers, so i'll tell him about our idea, he'll let me borrow their tool box 4 sure and he might even have few other suggestions but since he's a hardware mechanic, i'm sceptic about his knowledge of the software issues - as i said before, the OSE either runs, or it doesen't and what that means for him? Dead phone? -> se tool box -> GDFS, ROM, Filesystem flash -> phone alive, but maybe he knows stuff i don't - we don't talk about software a lot, i personally hate OSE and he hates WM so ... (It has gone so far, that when i bought my Touch, he took a deep red (bordeaux for *****es) w910i from his job and showed off all day ). Maybe some of his coleagues from the HTC division could help us out with the bootloader issue
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Any news...?
Not yet, dunno if i'll get to my PC after the visit in the Pub
IMHO, the "panels" interface is a good concept with potential.
Some developers have been "panels" to "launch apps" or execute "UI masks" (TF3D, SPB, etc) but not further
I thought of a new approach to the "panels" concept:
Since this is a "convergence device", PANELS should work like a bridge between each one, I mean:
1- SE panel: device feels like a Sony Ericsson phone
2- CYBERSHOT panel: device shifts to a SONY Cybershot digicam
3- NAV_U panel: device is now a SONY GPS like having a Garmin GPS
4- PSP panel: device becomes a SONY PSP gaming machine !!
5- VAIO panel: device turns (as close as possible of course) to a VAIO minilaptop
6- MYLO panel: a Sony internet device
7- WALKMAN panel: device becomes a full SONY media player, entertainment centre with radio, portable DVD player etc.
Sony is particularly good at this last one, but IMHO the current "media panel" is still shy, not on par with other Sony interfaces (even SE phones)
What do you think ??
Should I write Sony an email ??
It aint gonna happen, even if you write them an email.
I think what you have said is exactly how panels are *supposed* to be.. the X1 is how it actually is right now.
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It aint gonna happen, even if you write them an email.
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exactly. in my experience they will fix a view bugs in the next softwareupdate and if we are really lucky they deliver the new windows-mobile os with implemented adobe flash player in a few weeks/months.
as for the panels: they did not even include an "auto snapshot" function to keep the panel previews updated (and this should be easy). in my opinion they wanted third party developers to develop "cool" panels but they screwed up because they cant organize a working developer-community or (more important) provide good documentation.
in theory a simple webdesigner (like me) should be able to easy make a "html"-panel. in reality the html-panels are way to slow and you can spend hours just looking for the required information (like pseudohandlers). also they want you to use visual studio (even if you need it just to make a .cab) just because they cant deliver tools to work in an webdesign-environment.
the whole panel thing will die like other unsuccessful marketing gags.
have fun,
- quadword
This is a good idea, I also like Sony Software, it has a quality feel about it. The stuff they made for the X1 was probably there first attempt at WM software.
The software idea you mentioned a " Sony Suite " is probably an idea they are working on for the X2, lets hope its still windows based, and hopefully though they will release individual programs for the X1, to wet our appetities, along the way
gtrab
The idea is good, but very personal. Ie this is what you need. I need more.
For example panel Contacts are visible when the photo-switch contact and a finger.
With the smooth effect. http://www.uiq.com/product/showroom/ Personal FaceBook
Do not contact the button, as implemented in SpbMS
or
i like the ideas,
yes the X1 should ooooozzze sony exellence and the pannels should represent other sony product interfaces i mean why wasnt there a cybershot camera pannel? surely it would take just as long to load the pannel as it does to press the camera button and wait for it to load.
we all would like sony to take on board our ideas but we are insignificant to them we just give them the money.
I think is a short wait. There will be those who will create a panel for the X1
sshick said:
I think is a short wait. There will be those who will create a panel for the X1
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Oh I really hope so...
Right now everybody seem trying to port TouchFlo 3D to the Xperia, does this tell you something Sony developers ???
And I agree with mark when he states that Sony products have (usually) a feel of luxury and coolness, a blend of high-tech and art (style).
I really hope they go ahead developing this Xperia concept a step further
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gtrab said:
IMHO, the "panels" interface is a good concept with potential.
Some developers have been "panels" to "launch apps" or execute "UI masks" (TF3D, SPB, etc) but not further
I thought of a new approach to the "panels" concept:
Since this is a "convergence device", PANELS should work like a bridge between each one, I mean:
1- SE panel: device feels like a Sony Ericsson phone
2- CYBERSHOT panel: device shifts to a SONY Cybershot digicam
3- NAV_U panel: device is now a SONY GPS like having a Garmin GPS
4- PSP panel: device becomes a SONY PSP gaming machine !!
5- VAIO panel: device turns (as close as possible of course) to a VAIO minilaptop
6- MYLO panel: a Sony internet device
7- WALKMAN panel: device becomes a full SONY media player, entertainment centre with radio, portable DVD player etc.
Sony is particularly good at this last one, but IMHO the current "media panel" is still shy, not on par with other Sony interfaces (even SE phones)
What do you think ??
Should I write Sony an email ??
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as long as we can only use 1 panel at a time, anything other than panels that used to execute "UI masks" are useless IMO.
nap007 said:
as long as we can only use 1 panel at a time, anything other than panels that used to execute "UI masks" are useless IMO.
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Good point, here's the advantage of a "convergence device" :
Besides which panel you're using, you should allways be able to reach the "start" icon up there to launch other apps and multitask !! Have you seen te opera semitrasnparent link to show menus and bars ?? "Start" and the whole bar should work like that one too !!
Would a possible plan of action by end-users result in X1 Blackberry Connect compatibility?
A possible petition or mass correspondence by Xperia users is feasible.
Before proceeding the following information would be helpful. Please contribute if you have the answers.
1) What is the future of Blackberry Connect? Are companies forgoing involvement with BBC in wait for the rumored "BlackBerry Application Suite?"
(Possibly nothing more than a Storm theme for WindowsMobile?)
2) What is SonyEricsson's current relationship with Blackberry? I understand they have a number of SE Blackberry enabled devices (SE & BBC), but as a manufacturer they are no longer listed on the official BlackBerry Connect main page. Instead you have to dig deeper under the Blackberry Connect > Europe menu.
3) Does anyone know the procedure a manufacturer must go through to get their device BlackBerry Connect enabled? Is the decision taken from the manufacturer or RIM? If there is a fee, how is it calculated? Is it per company, per device platform, per device enabled, etcetera?
4) Any potential reason that SonyEricsson have not enabled BlackBerry Connect for the Xperia X1?
5) How have SonyEricsson responded to mass customer correspondence/action in the past?
If anyone is interested in taking this a few steps further, please let me know. Any support or feedback would be appreciated. I am sure both private customers and enterprises would be interested in having BlackBerry features on their SonyEricsson Xperia X1's. I have also posted this on Xperia X1 forums and possibly some others.
I'm very interested in this. mostly i want to tap into the blackberry messenger service!
I am also very interessted in BB connect on the X1!!
The Xperia X1 would be my first choise for a new phone/PDA, but I am stuck to Blackberry if I want to read my company mail.
I am alos Very Interested in this.
I have X1 sitting on my desk doing very little for me.
Have gone back to my Nokia E65 because Blackberry Connect still works on that device.
But really want to move to my X1 for good.
this will never make it as a serious Corperate phone without some sort of Blackberry support.
Thanks in advance if we get anything out of this.
have you tried asking se or blackberry?
i'd have thought that was a better course of action.
if se never said they'd support it then i cant see how a class action would help.
Thanks to everyone who have given this issue their support.
There are a few steps I would like to do by Friday the 13th of February.
1) Contact both SE and RIM on the closest I can get to an official word regarding plans for X1 and BBC connectivity.
2) Contact other Xperia blogs to see if they can link this post on their websites.
fards said:
have you tried asking se or blackberry?
i'd have thought that was a better course of action.
if se never said they'd support it then i cant see how a class action would help.
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As mentioned above, I'm contacting SE to get their verdict.
By customer action I mean the ability to mobilize customers to voice their opinion on an issue. Including but not limited to petitions, mass correspondence, etc..
If anyone has ideas on how to proceed please don't hesitate to post.
Answers to questions on the first post would also be of help.
Thanks again.
Would be very interested in this. Blackberry Connect would be a HUGE asset to the X1. Look forward to hearing from you after the 13th.
I'm postponing the correspondence until after the MWC which ends on the 19th of February.
Maybe some new news will be unveiled then.
connect 106 was released last week for the HD i think, have you tried that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3321503&postcount=73
fards said:
connect 106 was released last week for the HD i think, have you tried that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3321503&postcount=73
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I have tried to install on my X1 and it comes to a stage on the status "Data Tunnel Available" then it becomes "Not Connected" after a while.
I don't think it work for X1.
still hungry for BB Connect to work on X1 so sad to hear that it sill not work
Emoze
I am using now Emoze Pro and I am happy. I have push email even if my company is very secure and I have access just to OWA.
Are there any news on this?
Still looking for Blackberry Support in the X1!
razed said:
Would a possible plan of action by end-users result in X1 Blackberry Connect compatibility?
A possible petition or mass correspondence by Xperia users is feasible.
Before proceeding the following information would be helpful. Please contribute if you have the answers.
1) What is the future of Blackberry Connect? Are companies forgoing involvement with BBC in wait for the rumored "BlackBerry Application Suite?"
(Possibly nothing more than a Storm theme for WindowsMobile?)
2) What is SonyEricsson's current relationship with Blackberry? I understand they have a number of SE Blackberry enabled devices (SE & BBC), but as a manufacturer they are no longer listed on the official BlackBerry Connect main page. Instead you have to dig deeper under the Blackberry Connect > Europe menu.
3) Does anyone know the procedure a manufacturer must go through to get their device BlackBerry Connect enabled? Is the decision taken from the manufacturer or RIM? If there is a fee, how is it calculated? Is it per company, per device platform, per device enabled, etcetera?
4) Any potential reason that SonyEricsson have not enabled BlackBerry Connect for the Xperia X1?
5) How have SonyEricsson responded to mass customer correspondence/action in the past?
If anyone is interested in taking this a few steps further, please let me know. Any support or feedback would be appreciated. I am sure both private customers and enterprises would be interested in having BlackBerry features on their SonyEricsson Xperia X1's. I have also posted this on Xperia X1 forums and possibly some others.
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Well about your first issue, BB Suite is not only a Storm Theme, it is lika actually emulating the whole BB os and fucntions, deved by the BB people themselves, so its legal, and has all their features, even BBPin, which is somehow obtained from the phones IMEI. Check i thread I created asking about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483588&highlight=Blackberry+apps.
and it is not a rumor now since it was properly showed and demoed on MWC on a TouchPro.
Has anybody tried the new BB connect 1.06 available now for Touch HD ?
I am also w8ting for BB Connect on My X1i.....
Any Update please upload in this thread....
Thanks in Advance
Hi anybody care to share the system dump of Sony's Android Walkman.
(trying to make one from an old phone)