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Can someone suggest if the multi window feature of galaxy note 2 can be ported to galaxy s2 ???
4.3' screen hmmmm
buy Gnote 2 and u will get multi window
it will b great if it happen i m sure that it will b possible on Paranoid android rom may b
it would be a good idea but you will need a s-pen or move the selected window up when you use the keyboard, im not sure how its done on the note 2 but its a must with multitasking, have a note pad on one side and the web on another, will help copy and paste information.
I wouldn't say it would be impossible, but I'd say it would be freaking difficult. I was one of the people who tried to port the S3 ROM to the S2 and trust me, it is one hell of a job. So, I don't thin any dev would be up for porting the Note 2 ROM for S2. NVM, I'm gonna get a Note 2 anyway.
Wow. What I would give to have this on my S2. So many possibilities! Been using dual monitor on my pc for a while now, hoping it would be similar in a way, the productivity increase could really be worthwhile.
But i can see this would take a lot of work to implement on our devices. :\
I believe the framework has to modified ..meanwhile use the floating widget app
multitasking window
republicano said:
it would be a good idea but you will need a s-pen or move the selected window up when you use the keyboard, im not sure how its done on the note 2 but its a must with multitasking, have a note pad on one side and the web on another, will help copy and paste information.
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yes, you are right. Similar to x-plore.apk which has two screens side by side. It helps copy the files and paste it to different locations within the phone and memory card. Its an amazing app with lot of nice features. I simply love it and nothing equalant to that as of now. what do the community think? :good:
Find the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....Xplore&rdot=1
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yes, you are right. Similar to x-plore.apk which has two screens side by side. It helps copy the files and paste it to different locations within the phone and memory card. Its an amazing app with lot of nice features. I simply love it and nothing equalant to that as of now. what do the community think? :good:
Find the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....Xplore&rdot=1
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I got that program too, its the only file manager you need, open zips,apk as zips, it helps alot with transferring photos to their right folders to external sd. I remember it was on symbian mobiles but just with one pane,
in paranoid android you can change the dpi and layout so it displays more on the screen, helps alot and its not too large, with contacts you can get a similar result to xplorer, have all your contacts on one side and the other is the details of who you clicked on, same with settings,calendar,google rss reader,
This?
http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/developers-add-support-for-samsung-multi-window-to-your-apps-r823
I, too, would like this feature in S2. Although I am thinking of getting a Note2 anyhow.
Do you think it'll be possible now since its coming on the s3? It would be a great feature to have.
Completely useless on small screens IMVHO.
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Cyanogenmod tried to add this in CM9 add www
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I guess it won't make any Sense under 4,5".
4.5" or beyond will propably get this Feature.
Looks cool. Thats one use.
Enough for me to want it on mi S2.
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try AllianceMOD, Multi windows working just fine for me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118034
I'm also using this feature on my phone, but it seems a bit laggy sometimes when I move the line either up or down that devides two apps.
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I used DisasterROM v9 and flashed a mod specifically for this ROM, cause the SecSettings.apk was heavily edited.
I'm now using DisasterROM v10 and multiwindow is working, but I've lost the toggle to switch it on/off.
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try AllianceMOD, Multi windows working just fine for me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118034
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13 January 2013 Tablet UI threads: Here, Here
AOSP - TABLETUI VIDEO
TW - TABLETUI VIDEO
03 JAN 2013 I finally was able to achieve TABLET UI for my XXLSC TW ROM with Unlimited Multiwindow Support just like in Note10.1.
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UPDATE: Some dev may have finally achieved a TW tablet UI...a screenshot here. That is only a screenshot and I have not seen working myself. We'll just have to wait and rely on the dev to release it for those who want such feature on their note.
Can you share patched android.policy.jar and services.jar. I was trying to patch them with help from 0jmaster0, and but since you already did that I can use them and give it a try and report back with findings.
Edit:Thanks xperiacle for sharing your efforts.
Regards
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Nineteen downloads so far and no feedback. Although I don't know smali code, I have to research and learn a bit in a short span of time and based on my limited knowledge, there are two types of multiwindows: the one on the note1 & note2 and the one on note10.1 and the thing is all 3 devices share the same code but in that code is a conditional check to see if you are using a phone or a tablet based on the computation that barmulio specified in his thread (the check being done not only in windowmanager but also in multiwindowmanager), and when it detects that the device is a phablet/tablet (at least 600dp) the window manager sends signal to systemui to disable systembar which doesn't exist prior to 4.1.2. There could be a lot of other factors but so far that is what I discovered. I actually am enjoying this but it is a bit time consuming. It is a great learning process for me. Now if only molesarecoming can enlighten me about what makes ParanoidAndroid tick, then who knows what may come...I was hoping samsung would implement a PA-like configuration app/setting so we get to choose our preferred layout for multiwindow apps, then it would be awesome. I am sure samsung have more surprises to come based on the fragments of code and resources in its leaked JB ROM. So much time for a JB leak, I guess I'll just wait for the official release for now and enjoy the xmas season.
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Nineteen downloads so far and no feedback. Although I don't know smali code, I have to research and learn a bit in a short span of time and based on my limited knowledge, there are two types of multiwindows: the one on the note1 & note2 and the one on note10.1 and the thing is all 3 devices share the same code but in that code is a conditional check to see if you are using a phone or a tablet based on the computation that barmulio specified in his thread (the check being done not only in windowmanager but also in multiwindowmanager), and when it detects that the device is a phablet/tablet (at least 600dp) the window manager sends signal to systemui to disable systembar which doesn't exist prior to 4.1.2. There could be a lot of other factors but so far that is what I discovered. I actually am enjoying this but it is a bit time consuming. It is a great learning process for me. Now if only molesarecoming can enlighten me about what makes ParanoidAndroid tick, then who knows what may come...I was hoping samsung would implement a PA-like configuration app/setting so we get to choose our preferred layout for multiwindow apps, then it would be awesome. I am sure samsung have more surprises to come based on the fragments of code and resources in its leaked JB ROM. So much time for a JB leak, I guess I'll just wait for the official release for now and enjoy the xmas season.
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tried many combinations, hacks from patches and what not, every time i was blessed with sysui FC. finally had bliss or rather nirvana of reverse way. just formatted all possble partitions except cards and moved on to CM10.1 for time being. once bliss effect gone, i may try again in couple of days or during weekend. Thanks for your efforts. All we are travelers to same destination
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We were discusting this tablet mode on ianbbaa thread and posible priblems with systemui.apk for note. You could find there some thoughts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968561
[ROM].[JB].[XXLS7][PORT]TW MiniTab 5,3_v0,3 /5 options to MultiWindow.
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Nevertheless it is great that you ported this to note.
Could you explain step by step what has to be changed to switch phone mode regardless of dpi?
I tried to do this myself but stucked, then I saw you was faster and smarter.
Thanks.
xperiacle, someone is looking into this and it will be operatable soon I believe
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That is good news if they manage to make it work. But that I believe is running at 160 dpi which may pose a usability problem for a lot of users - one is the text maybe too small to be readable for most. That is the same problem in the Nexus 7 forum, they can get tablet UI by lowering the density at the expense of readability (imagine that on a 5.3" screen like note1, try downloading the screenshot and view it on your screen) unless connected to a bigger screen, so barmulio's solution was achieving tablet UI without lowering density making text as readable as the stock density setting. Another thing I noticed about the screenshot posted is that there is no button for the traybar which controls the multiwindow layout for tablet UI which is the thing that I am trying to achieve by enabling the systembar but so far no luck. But I have achieved a working tablet UI for most apps (Youtube, Photoshop Touch, File Manager HD and other apps if such app has a tablet layout) except without the systembar but without lowering the density so text is as readable as the stock density setting. If an app has tablet layout, it will appear as tablet app, otherwise it will appear as phablet or phone UI. If you want floating multiwindow or the stock multiwindow, then it is easy to switch between the two. I am using it right now and trying to iron out the few misplaced layouts of important stock apps (mostly I replaced with PlayStore alternatives) and making it a usable daily driver. I may release it in the near future with all the working apps. That is enough info for now, some folks might get the idea and beat me to it, he he! Just kidding, sharing is great.
"Stay hungry, stay foolish". Explore and learn and have fun doing it. Merry Xmas Xda'ers!
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xperiacle, someone is looking into this and it will be operatable soon I believe
from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968561
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xperiacle. Youre doing awesome stuff!
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I sincerely don't get this at all.
Too small for real usage.
Perhaps getting Tab 2 7.0 JB UI would be greatly practical.
Just a suggestion.
Livebyte said:
I sincerely don't get this at all.
Too small for real usage.
Perhaps getting Tab 2 7.0 JB UI would be greatly practical.
Just a suggestion.
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people tend to forget you can increase font size if its to hard to read. With Xperiacle ideas on tablet gui on stock dpi the minute buttons area should be solved.
This is cutting edge stuff. I just hope it wont diminish batterylife like Paranoid mods do for me.
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That is good news if they manage to make it work. But that I believe is running at 160 dpi which may pose a usability problem for a lot of users - one is the text maybe too small to be readable for most. That is the same problem in the Nexus 7 forum, they can get tablet UI by lowering the density at the expense of readability (imagine that on a 5.3" screen like note1, try downloading the screenshot and view it on your screen) unless connected to a bigger screen, so barmulio's solution was achieving tablet UI without lowering density making text as readable as the stock density setting. Another thing I noticed about the screenshot posted is that there is no button for the traybar which controls the multiwindow layout for tablet UI which is the thing that I am trying to achieve by enabling the systembar but so far no luck. But I have achieved a working tablet UI for most apps (Youtube, Photoshop Touch, File Manager HD and other apps if such app has a tablet layout) except without the systembar but without lowering the density so text is as readable as the stock density setting. If an app has tablet layout, it will appear as tablet app, otherwise it will appear as phablet or phone UI. If you want floating multiwindow or the stock multiwindow, then it is easy to switch between the two. I am using it right now and trying to iron out the few misplaced layouts of important stock apps (mostly I replaced with PlayStore alternatives) and making it a usable daily driver. I may release it in the near future with all the working apps. That is enough info for now, some folks might get the idea and beat me to it, he he! Just kidding, sharing is great.
"Stay hungry, stay foolish". Explore and learn and have fun doing it. Merry Xmas Xda'ers!
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Mate. As far as I remember there was a memeber (sorry if it turns to be you) still had the no and included a working systemui I can't recall who but it used to work even partially (not full width of screen).
Are you sure that the n8000 systemui doesnt work? It could be a patch you missed or something.
I will look into it at the holidays, and may e we can contact raj_ch200..... the guy with the 240 mod if he can be any help with this
HAPPY XMAS guys :beer:
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i m sorry to interupt here guys ..
but hmmm i had tablet ui like 6-7 months months ago wokring on note 1 on ics .. at any dpi ..
i do have it on note 2 (jb) now as well as phablet mode .. check link in my sigs for screenshots dates etc etc ..
edit : notice some pics at 320 dpi so settings is full size and NOT dual panel
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i m sorry to interupt here guys ..
but hmmm i had tablet ui like 6-7 months months ago wokring on note 1 on ics .. at any dpi ..
i do have it on note 2 (jb) now as well as phablet mode .. check link in my sigs for screenshots dates etc etc ..
edit : notice some pics at 320 dpi so settings is full size and NOT dual panel
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care to share how u do it?
I ALREADY DID MANY TIMES ACTUALLY... ONLY ONE OTGER GUY BOTHERED TO DO IT SINCE THEN...
READING WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE OTHER ROM THREAD THO....
PATCHING SYSTEMUI IS ABOUT ADDING THE MISSING RESOURCES AND LAYOUT.. IT'S VERY LONG TO DO...
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DAGr8 said:
I ALREADY DID MANY TIMES ACTUALLY... ONLY ONE OTGER GUY BOTHERED TO DO IT SINCE THEN...
READING WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE OTHER ROM THREAD THO....
PATCHING SYSTEMUI IS ABOUT ADDING THE MISSING RESOURCES AND LAYOUT.. IT'S VERY LONG TO DO...
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Hi DAGr8,
I used your systemUI awhileback to achieve the desired tablet ui in ICS.
I have been searching your threads and can't find the post detailing how you patch the missing resources.
I have a little time at the moment and want to have a crack at it, the results of which I will post here.
BTW - Seasons greetings.
qazzi76 said:
Hi DAGr8,
I used your systemUI awhileback to achieve the desired tablet ui in ICS.
I have been searching your threads and can't find the post detailing how you patch the missing resources.
I have a little time at the moment and want to have a crack at it, the results of which I will post here.
BTW - Seasons greetings.
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pls share the systemui.apk if u r able to do it. for xxlsc pls
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pls share the systemui.apk if u r able to do it. for xxlsc pls
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That systemui.APK is not compatible with JB it's specifically for ICS TW so there is no point trying it.
I have finally solved the TABLET UI problem for TW roms.
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I have finally solved the TABLET UI problem for TW roms.
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Del.
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Nice work mate! Is the zip in op updated tobthe working version?
Would love to know how this was achieved if youd care to share?
Thanks
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Just thought I might share this experience for those who are foolish enough like me. You must understand I am not a developer but I love to tinker.
While most are busy porting apps, wallpapers, ringtones, etc from the Galaxy S4, I thought why don't I port the Galaxy Note 8 instead. So with a bunch of foolishness, I downloaded the Galaxy Note 8 N5100XXBMC9_N5100OXABMC8_DBT Firmware, extracted, deodexed and zipaligned it and copied all the system/apps and the system/frameworks & system/etc/permissions and a lot of system/lib files & /media and /fonts folder, packed it in a pre-made note1 rom, edited the build.prop and set lcd density to 213 (as this is the density that the note 8 is using) and flashed it thru recovery. Luckily it booted and reached the Setup screen showing some errors which I ignored and just went thru the whole setup wizard sometimes rebooting itself and going back to the setup screen again until I finally made it thru the google setup page and eventually the homescreen and greeted with a very nice wallpaper. At this point, the systemui is not working, nor does wifi but telephony works so does mms. Gallery, Video Player, Music Player, File Manager, Splanner with pefect fitting Calendar widget, Email, Alarm, World Clock, airview and some other extra apps - all working fine with few minor bugs. Calculator, Snote, Quick Command, screenshot not working.
So I immediately tried to activate multiwindows which is the feature I am after. Like the note1 and note2, just long pressing the back button activates the multiwindow bar. There are two modes to the multiwindow bar, dual mode and cascade mode. While the note 10.1 uses the systemui traybar to show multiwindow apps, the Note 8 uses the flashbar tray to launch multiwindow apps. There are some differences as you can see in the video.
There are a lot of work to be done for a full port specially the systemui and wifi. I am not sure which framework files or lib files are hardware related so I am not sure if it is worth the effort to make a full port at all. But I learned some things doing this foolish thing and might give others the courage to try things, to learn, to explore even in the face of failure. I am still as noob as when I started learning about android 4 months ago. There is so much to learn and I am having a great time being part of an open system and a great community like xda. I would say there is so much more to learn here than in school. For all the things I have learned in a span of 4 months here in xda, I would like to say THANK YOU.
VIDEO LINK
In the meantime, I have uploaded the Note 8 Apps HERE for those who want to use it on stock note1 rom preferably at 213 Phablet or Tablet UI.
I believe we have a good dev here that can help you to port..hope so..:fingers-crossed:
Thank you Xperiacle, thanks for keeping our note alive with your mods. Thanks you for all!
Amazing job dude, really!
xperiacle, i always wonder what you are up to when you become quiet .....
Just how foolish can one get !
Share the rom with us xperiacle
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This is amazing
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you could definitely share the rom with us !!
thanks for ur work !
Thanks for the innovative thoughts and work.
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Share the rom with us xperiacle
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"IF" and when I have a stable enough port of the Note 8 ROM, I will definitely SHARE it here in xda. At the moment it is pretty unstable and I am having second thoughts about it. Using it for a while, there is nothing really special about it except of course the multiwindow feature. It uses a mostly WHITE theme which is not good for battery life and eyesight. Apart from the new flashbar multiwindow, most Note 8 stock apps can run on stock JB note1 using 213 dpi like TW Launcher, Galllery, VideoPlayer, MMS, Email, Task Manager, Music Player, Splanner, Clock and Weather Widgets, File Manager, Awesome Note, Flipboard, Svoice, Chrome, etc. Gesturepad does not run but there are better alternatives on the PlayStore. Polaris Office tablet runs well on the port but on the stock note1 rom, it doesn't run probably because it is checking some signature. Readers hub now detects whether device is rooted or not and does not run on rooted roms. Snote tablet does not work but the Snote ported by arsaw for GS3 works well enough. As the systemui is not working I could not test the Reading Mode feature - it could be something that can be ported from android.policy. The rest are just minor stuff.
Talking about the multiwindow feature - the default uses the same native multiwindow as the stock multiwindow on the note1 and note2 which is the multiwindow feature shown on commercials and Note 8 review sites. But once you delete the com.sec.feature.multiwindow.phone.xml file in permissions folder, you will get multiwindow just like the one on the video I have shown which is better of course as apps can be maximised and restored to window mode back and forth - which is already available on note1 using my floating multiwindow and tablet ui mods.
What are your thoughts, Guys? What feature do you think is worth porting/using a Note 8 Rom?
P.S. I have uploaded the base ROM and it is very unstable at the moment but it lets you experience first hand what I have been talking about. It is only for those who know what they are doing. So if you are interested to try, send me a PM and I will share the link. But a BIG WARNING, I am not responsible for any damage that may result in flashing it. It uses Philz xxlsz 4.35 kernel which do not have the bootloop fix but it's the one I use because I dont get bootloops with it. As for the Note 8 stock apps for those who are using 213 phablet or tablet ui modes, I will upload them later.
For anyone interested the stock n5100 (note 8) download link from Sam mobile is http://www.hotfile.com/dl/200082066/9df9e66/N5100XXBMC9_N5100OXABMC8_DBT.zip.html
OBVIOUSLY DONT FLASH THIS ON YOUR N7000
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For anyone interested the stock n5100 (note 8) download link from Sam mobile is http://www.hotfile.com/dl/200082066/9df9e66/N5100XXBMC9_N5100OXABMC8_DBT.zip.html
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Note 1 user can't flash directly the note 8's rom remove this link otherwise there will be a handful of died note's just because noob's will surely see this link and flash it without any reading
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Note 1 user can't flash directly the note 8's rom remove this link otherwise there will be a handful of died note's just because noob's will surely see this link and flash it without any reading
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I posted the link because many of the apk files themselves are useful alongside with xposed framework and per app DPI settings.
But since YOU are so concerned I will post a warning.
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xperiacle, mods are your forte. Roms are bound to present stability issues. Mods also give flexibility for improvisations and enhance the learning experience. so more mods please
Some updates...
I have managed to port fully working Snote with idea sketch with more features than the note2 snote app. Also comes with S Page widget. A better looking Quick Snote.
I also managed to port the keyboard with three layouts - qwerty, floating, split - and with awesome handwriting recognition using vision objects engine.
So far, Splanner with handwriting mode perfectly working with perfectly fitting widget on Homescreen at 213 dpi.
Polaris Office tablet working with some watermarks but can be hacked with smali edit I guess.
All ported apps will be shared once I finished pinpointing the necessary lib files.
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Some updates...
I have managed to port fully working Snote with idea sketch with more features than the note2 snote app. Also comes with S Page widget. A better looking Quick Snote.
I also managed to port the keyboard with three layouts - qwerty, floating, split - and with awesome handwriting recognition using vision objects engine.
So far, Splanner with handwriting mode perfectly working with perfectly fitting widget on Homescreen at 213 dpi.
Polaris Office tablet working with some watermarks but can be hacked with smali edit I guess.
All ported apps will be shared once I finished pinpointing the necessary lib files.
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Great work mate
very exciting to see this.
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Hi Xperiacle, this is great! I admire the SNOTE you provide.
Just noticed it's UI is clipped (undo redo arrows) and possibly other controls. Was not successful changing the DPI for this app, also no problem changing it for others. Any suggestion how to change it?
Also - don't you have additional languages for the hand writing recognition, particularly Czech?
Thanks a lot!
Is it possible just to get that keyboard?
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This sounds amazing
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My note 10.1-2012 with cyanogenmod is so much faster for drawing with sketchbook. Zooming and pen tracking are fantastic. I loved it so much that I went for the 2014 model. Disappoint! The whole reason i got this tab was to sketch and the performance just isnt there. Currently using the latest Bindroid and I don't blame the ROM, I blame touch wiz. Users rallied to get DutchDanny (the dev of Bindroid) a tab maybe it could happen again to get CM for us? Anyone want it want it as bad as I do?!
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My note 10.1-2012 with cyanogenmod is so much faster for drawing with sketchbook. Zooming and pen tracking are fantastic. I loved it so much that I went for the 2014 model. Disappoint! The whole reason i got this tab was to sketch and the performance just isnt there. Currently using the latest Bindroid and I don't blame the ROM, I blame touch wiz. Users rallied to get DutchDanny (the dev of Bindroid) a tab maybe it could happen again to get CM for us? Anyone want it want it as bad as I do?!
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I'm saying it here from the moment i got my Note!
But as far as i know, there is no Developer that knows how to port a Vanilla ROM to our device...
Sad
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I want it more than you!
No. Almost everyone with Note 2's 3's 2012's uses a touch wiz rom. Wont be any different here. Im not getting rid of software that makes up 90% of the reason I buy Samsung products.
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No desire for cyanogenmod here. While some of touch wiz is annoying, if I wanted a vanilla experience I would have bought a nexus.
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No. Almost everyone with Note 2's 3's 2012's uses a touch wiz rom. Wont be any different here. Im not getting rid of software that makes up 90% of the reason I buy Samsung products.
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wingdo said:
No desire for cyanogenmod here. While some of touch wiz is annoying, if I wanted a vanilla experience I would have bought a nexus.
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GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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Most people get a Note for the Spen features and you will lose most all of them and specifically the Air Command if you go with Cyanogen Mod. I had the Nexus 7.2 for a bit and in my opinion AOSP is very boring. A couple of years ago phones and tablets did not have the processing power to deal with TW and Sense so AOSP was very helpful for a better experience but now that is a non issue. The biggest problem with getting AOSP on this device is the cost. Most developers are not going to buy it.
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ilayron8 said:
I'm saying it here from the moment i got my Note!
But as far as i know, there is no Developer that knows how to port a Vanilla ROM to our device...
Sad
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I am quite sure there are lots of developers capable of porting AOSP to this device. The correct way to say it is there is no one willing to port it.
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GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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You have to be kidding me. There are plenty of manufactures who give a vanilla or near vanilla experience. The nexus is a great high end vanilla experience. Why are you knowingly buying products you do not like? Like it or not, what sets *most* Android manufacturers apart are the skins they create.
Samsung must be doing something right now selling the lion's share of Android systems. I bought the note for a reason and Cyanogenmod cannot provide that same experience no matter how many 3rd party apps are installed.
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Most people get a Note for the Spen features and you will lose most all of them and specifically the Air Command if you go with Cyanogen Mod. I had the Nexus 7.2 for a bit and in my opinion AOSP is very boring. A couple of years ago phones and tablets did not have the processing power to deal with TW and Sense so AOSP was very helpful for a better experience but now that is a non issue. The biggest problem with getting AOSP on this device is the cost. Most developers are not going to buy it.
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I am quite sure there are lots of developers capable of porting AOSP to this device. The correct way to say it is there is no one willing to port it.
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wingdo said:
You have to be kidding me. There are plenty of manufactures who give a vanilla or near vanilla experience. The nexus is a great high end vanilla experience. Why are you knowingly buying products you do not like? Like it or not, what sets *most* Android manufacturers apart are the skins they create.
Samsung must be doing something right now selling the lion's share of Android systems. I bought the note for a reason and Cyanogenmod cannot provide that same experience no matter how many 3rd party apps are installed.
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I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
ilayron8 said:
I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
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The Spen features are built into the framework. Cyanogen Mod does not have the feature in its framework. Also the Note devices have a Wacom digitizer along with the standard capacitive touchscreen. Some apps will work in Cyanogen mod but no apps which use the Samsung SDK for pen features will work. While I used the Nexus 7 2013, Cyanogen Mod was the worst of the AOSP based roms as they changed their drivers from AOSP based to CAF based which broke lots of things. The best AOSP roms are AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP would change this tablet into a faster Nexus 10 which I had and got the Note 2014 because of the Spen features.
PS Ditch the CAPSLOCK. No need in yelling since you are voicing opinions.
I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
nrage23 said:
The Spen features are built into the framework. Cyanogen Mod does not have the feature in its framework. Also the Note devices have a Wacom digitizer along with the standard capacitive touchscreen. Some apps will work in Cyanogen mod but no apps which use the Samsung SDK for pen features will work. While I used the Nexus 7 2013, Cyanogen Mod was the worst of the AOSP based roms as they changed their drivers from AOSP based to CAF based which broke lots of things. The best AOSP roms are AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP would change this tablet into a faster Nexus 10 which I had and got the Note 2014 because of the Spen features.
PS Ditch the CAPSLOCK. No need in yelling since you are voicing opinions.
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Ok, have fun with your S Pen apps.
C2Q said:
I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
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I completly agree with you.
S Pen Apps are nice, but I don't use them often. I'm using my S Pen to draw, to write things quickly (yeah, an S Pen app but can replaced by an App from the Play Store) and to control easily the Note. That's a lot of good things, but they all can work on CM.
Multi Windows is the problem. Yes, there are few nice apps that can replace it, but far from TW's feature. But i guess that when the developers will want to bring it as an App, they'll to it.
C2Q said:
I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
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It would probably help you out to go to the Note 3 forums to see how AOSP roms are functioning since they are similar.
Look at that guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diIwfyo4nHQ
I know it's not CM (Omni will probably wont get to our device anytime soon), I just want you to see that it's possible...
Who knows..maybe if CM comes to the TabPro, we might be able to get it since the hardware is practically the same.
Options are always nice. Some people (like me) are considering buy the Note 10.1 instead of the Tab Pro because of the 3gb RAM and because you can get a 32 GB version now. Couldn't care less about the pen! Would very much like some stock ROM options.
ilayron8 said:
GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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ilayron8 said:
I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
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Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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Why do you care so much about how someone else uses their tablet? If you don't want a stock ROM, don't use it easy.
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Duly.noted said:
Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
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C2Q said:
Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
Some people...
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exposed is nowhere near Samsung. 50/50 only and has to be selected from recent apps window. doesnt support drag drop and no 4 way window. Exposed doesn't do all apps floating either. Drag and drop supports text and pictures, and text works in many applications, example
MAME is strictly a non-profit project. Its main p
C2Q said:
Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
Some people...
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exposed is nowhere near Samsung. 50/50 only and has to be selected from recent apps window. doesnt support drag drop and no 4 way window. Exposed doesn't do all apps floating either. Drag and drop supports text and pictures, and text works in many applications, example
MAME is strictly a non-profit project. Its main purpose is to be a reference to the inner workings
of the emulated arcade machines. This is done both for educational purposes and for preservation
purposes, in order to prevent many historical games from disappearing forever once the hardware they
run on stops working. Of course, in order to preserve the games and demonstrate that the emulated
behavior matches the original, you must also be able to actually play the games. This is considered
a nice side effect, and is not MAME's primary focus.
Drag and drop text supports any app that uses the android system text copy and paste functions. as for as I can tell. Most text fields take it. And you can share screenshots almost anywhere. And what I meat was that very few people prefer the Hosp roms. Hence the giant number of TW Roms in comparison.
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Duly.noted said:
Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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I'm tired of arguing with you...
Go and have fun with your TW and let ME to choose how to use my tablet.
hello, sorry for the sarcastic title I found a device surfing the web an infinite nite 5 stylus which seems to have Implemented similar features of spen TouchWiz in their system and was thinking a if it's possible to Port them to our beloved note 3.
https://youtu.be/qErKRdYrIF0
the features are not entirely listed inthis video but shows what I'm saying.
thanks
itemmaster said:
similar features of spen TouchWiz
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This definitely ain't gonna happen, but I'm still curious, what exactly is the point of porting similar features ?
itemmaster said:
hello, sorry for the sarcastic title I found a device surfing the web an infinite nite 5 stylus which seems to have Implemented similar features of spen TouchWiz in their system and was thinking a if it's possible to Port them to our beloved note 3.
https://youtu.be/qErKRdYrIF0
the features are not entirely listed inthis video but shows what I'm saying.
thanks
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Search and read about SPenCommand (Paid app).
the point of the port is getting more features of spen I believe is what worth of the note series.
about spencommand in Oreo an pie ROMs it doesn't get the device like a note series
im in pie rom AOSP extend
I believe it's time to change my good old note 3