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TABLET UI: Finally possible for TW!

13 January 2013 Tablet UI threads: Here, Here
AOSP - TABLETUI VIDEO
TW - TABLETUI VIDEO
03 JAN 2013 I finally was able to achieve TABLET UI for my XXLSC TW ROM with Unlimited Multiwindow Support just like in Note10.1.
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UPDATE: Some dev may have finally achieved a TW tablet UI...a screenshot here. That is only a screenshot and I have not seen working myself. We'll just have to wait and rely on the dev to release it for those who want such feature on their note.

Can you share patched android.policy.jar and services.jar. I was trying to patch them with help from 0jmaster0, and but since you already did that I can use them and give it a try and report back with findings.
Edit:Thanks xperiacle for sharing your efforts.
Regards
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Nineteen downloads so far and no feedback. Although I don't know smali code, I have to research and learn a bit in a short span of time and based on my limited knowledge, there are two types of multiwindows: the one on the note1 & note2 and the one on note10.1 and the thing is all 3 devices share the same code but in that code is a conditional check to see if you are using a phone or a tablet based on the computation that barmulio specified in his thread (the check being done not only in windowmanager but also in multiwindowmanager), and when it detects that the device is a phablet/tablet (at least 600dp) the window manager sends signal to systemui to disable systembar which doesn't exist prior to 4.1.2. There could be a lot of other factors but so far that is what I discovered. I actually am enjoying this but it is a bit time consuming. It is a great learning process for me. Now if only molesarecoming can enlighten me about what makes ParanoidAndroid tick, then who knows what may come...I was hoping samsung would implement a PA-like configuration app/setting so we get to choose our preferred layout for multiwindow apps, then it would be awesome. I am sure samsung have more surprises to come based on the fragments of code and resources in its leaked JB ROM. So much time for a JB leak, I guess I'll just wait for the official release for now and enjoy the xmas season.

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Nineteen downloads so far and no feedback. Although I don't know smali code, I have to research and learn a bit in a short span of time and based on my limited knowledge, there are two types of multiwindows: the one on the note1 & note2 and the one on note10.1 and the thing is all 3 devices share the same code but in that code is a conditional check to see if you are using a phone or a tablet based on the computation that barmulio specified in his thread (the check being done not only in windowmanager but also in multiwindowmanager), and when it detects that the device is a phablet/tablet (at least 600dp) the window manager sends signal to systemui to disable systembar which doesn't exist prior to 4.1.2. There could be a lot of other factors but so far that is what I discovered. I actually am enjoying this but it is a bit time consuming. It is a great learning process for me. Now if only molesarecoming can enlighten me about what makes ParanoidAndroid tick, then who knows what may come...I was hoping samsung would implement a PA-like configuration app/setting so we get to choose our preferred layout for multiwindow apps, then it would be awesome. I am sure samsung have more surprises to come based on the fragments of code and resources in its leaked JB ROM. So much time for a JB leak, I guess I'll just wait for the official release for now and enjoy the xmas season.
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tried many combinations, hacks from patches and what not, every time i was blessed with sysui FC. finally had bliss or rather nirvana of reverse way. just formatted all possble partitions except cards and moved on to CM10.1 for time being. once bliss effect gone, i may try again in couple of days or during weekend. Thanks for your efforts. All we are travelers to same destination
regards

We were discusting this tablet mode on ianbbaa thread and posible priblems with systemui.apk for note. You could find there some thoughts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968561
[ROM].[JB].[XXLS7][PORT]TW MiniTab 5,3_v0,3 /5 options to MultiWindow.
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Nevertheless it is great that you ported this to note.
Could you explain step by step what has to be changed to switch phone mode regardless of dpi?
I tried to do this myself but stucked, then I saw you was faster and smarter.
Thanks.

xperiacle, someone is looking into this and it will be operatable soon I believe
from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968561
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Nothing is impossible
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RevengeDevTeam work in progress....
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That is good news if they manage to make it work. But that I believe is running at 160 dpi which may pose a usability problem for a lot of users - one is the text maybe too small to be readable for most. That is the same problem in the Nexus 7 forum, they can get tablet UI by lowering the density at the expense of readability (imagine that on a 5.3" screen like note1, try downloading the screenshot and view it on your screen) unless connected to a bigger screen, so barmulio's solution was achieving tablet UI without lowering density making text as readable as the stock density setting. Another thing I noticed about the screenshot posted is that there is no button for the traybar which controls the multiwindow layout for tablet UI which is the thing that I am trying to achieve by enabling the systembar but so far no luck. But I have achieved a working tablet UI for most apps (Youtube, Photoshop Touch, File Manager HD and other apps if such app has a tablet layout) except without the systembar but without lowering the density so text is as readable as the stock density setting. If an app has tablet layout, it will appear as tablet app, otherwise it will appear as phablet or phone UI. If you want floating multiwindow or the stock multiwindow, then it is easy to switch between the two. I am using it right now and trying to iron out the few misplaced layouts of important stock apps (mostly I replaced with PlayStore alternatives) and making it a usable daily driver. I may release it in the near future with all the working apps. That is enough info for now, some folks might get the idea and beat me to it, he he! Just kidding, sharing is great.
"Stay hungry, stay foolish". Explore and learn and have fun doing it. Merry Xmas Xda'ers!
nanomet said:
xperiacle, someone is looking into this and it will be operatable soon I believe
from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968561
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xperiacle. Youre doing awesome stuff!
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I sincerely don't get this at all.
Too small for real usage.
Perhaps getting Tab 2 7.0 JB UI would be greatly practical.
Just a suggestion.

Livebyte said:
I sincerely don't get this at all.
Too small for real usage.
Perhaps getting Tab 2 7.0 JB UI would be greatly practical.
Just a suggestion.
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people tend to forget you can increase font size if its to hard to read. With Xperiacle ideas on tablet gui on stock dpi the minute buttons area should be solved.
This is cutting edge stuff. I just hope it wont diminish batterylife like Paranoid mods do for me.
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xperiacle said:
That is good news if they manage to make it work. But that I believe is running at 160 dpi which may pose a usability problem for a lot of users - one is the text maybe too small to be readable for most. That is the same problem in the Nexus 7 forum, they can get tablet UI by lowering the density at the expense of readability (imagine that on a 5.3" screen like note1, try downloading the screenshot and view it on your screen) unless connected to a bigger screen, so barmulio's solution was achieving tablet UI without lowering density making text as readable as the stock density setting. Another thing I noticed about the screenshot posted is that there is no button for the traybar which controls the multiwindow layout for tablet UI which is the thing that I am trying to achieve by enabling the systembar but so far no luck. But I have achieved a working tablet UI for most apps (Youtube, Photoshop Touch, File Manager HD and other apps if such app has a tablet layout) except without the systembar but without lowering the density so text is as readable as the stock density setting. If an app has tablet layout, it will appear as tablet app, otherwise it will appear as phablet or phone UI. If you want floating multiwindow or the stock multiwindow, then it is easy to switch between the two. I am using it right now and trying to iron out the few misplaced layouts of important stock apps (mostly I replaced with PlayStore alternatives) and making it a usable daily driver. I may release it in the near future with all the working apps. That is enough info for now, some folks might get the idea and beat me to it, he he! Just kidding, sharing is great.
"Stay hungry, stay foolish". Explore and learn and have fun doing it. Merry Xmas Xda'ers!
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Mate. As far as I remember there was a memeber (sorry if it turns to be you) still had the no and included a working systemui I can't recall who but it used to work even partially (not full width of screen).
Are you sure that the n8000 systemui doesnt work? It could be a patch you missed or something.
I will look into it at the holidays, and may e we can contact raj_ch200..... the guy with the 240 mod if he can be any help with this
HAPPY XMAS guys :beer:
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hem
i m sorry to interupt here guys ..
but hmmm i had tablet ui like 6-7 months months ago wokring on note 1 on ics .. at any dpi ..
i do have it on note 2 (jb) now as well as phablet mode .. check link in my sigs for screenshots dates etc etc ..
edit : notice some pics at 320 dpi so settings is full size and NOT dual panel

DAGr8 said:
hem
i m sorry to interupt here guys ..
but hmmm i had tablet ui like 6-7 months months ago wokring on note 1 on ics .. at any dpi ..
i do have it on note 2 (jb) now as well as phablet mode .. check link in my sigs for screenshots dates etc etc ..
edit : notice some pics at 320 dpi so settings is full size and NOT dual panel
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care to share how u do it?

I ALREADY DID MANY TIMES ACTUALLY... ONLY ONE OTGER GUY BOTHERED TO DO IT SINCE THEN...
READING WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE OTHER ROM THREAD THO....
PATCHING SYSTEMUI IS ABOUT ADDING THE MISSING RESOURCES AND LAYOUT.. IT'S VERY LONG TO DO...
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DAGr8 said:
I ALREADY DID MANY TIMES ACTUALLY... ONLY ONE OTGER GUY BOTHERED TO DO IT SINCE THEN...
READING WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE OTHER ROM THREAD THO....
PATCHING SYSTEMUI IS ABOUT ADDING THE MISSING RESOURCES AND LAYOUT.. IT'S VERY LONG TO DO...
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Hi DAGr8,
I used your systemUI awhileback to achieve the desired tablet ui in ICS.
I have been searching your threads and can't find the post detailing how you patch the missing resources.
I have a little time at the moment and want to have a crack at it, the results of which I will post here.
BTW - Seasons greetings.

qazzi76 said:
Hi DAGr8,
I used your systemUI awhileback to achieve the desired tablet ui in ICS.
I have been searching your threads and can't find the post detailing how you patch the missing resources.
I have a little time at the moment and want to have a crack at it, the results of which I will post here.
BTW - Seasons greetings.
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pls share the systemui.apk if u r able to do it. for xxlsc pls

shinchanz00 said:
pls share the systemui.apk if u r able to do it. for xxlsc pls
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That systemui.APK is not compatible with JB it's specifically for ICS TW so there is no point trying it.

I have finally solved the TABLET UI problem for TW roms.

xperiacle said:
I have finally solved the TABLET UI problem for TW roms.
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Del.
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Nice work mate! Is the zip in op updated tobthe working version?
Would love to know how this was achieved if youd care to share?
Thanks
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Galaxy Note II AOSP roms and S-pen functionality

I'm sure some people have figured this out and there might even be a post about it, but I just wanted discuss what I've done to get some S-pen functionality back and to hear about what you've done. I just flashed ParanoidAndroid 3.1 and it's absolutely awesome. I didn't think I'd like not having the Samsung apps but I'm easily getting over that. I'm an avid pen user so naturally I'm doing everything I can to continue using. (Yeah it's like a drug to me.)
So, here's what I have going on:
I use GMD Spen control (found on the market for $$) to retain some gestures and add a few of my own. Unfortunately the frequently used screenshot tap is Samsung only so I'm at a loss there. It works excellent tho.
I use Catch Sketch to replace S-note. So far this app works great. The pen selector seems has a bug on the last pen and looks a lil goofy but it's basically the same as S-note. It seems to lack the color copy feature but it might show up when your coloring on a photo or something.
I use Swype that I downloaded from their actual website to retain the write to text feature.
So that's what I'm working with. If anyone has suggestions or things you've found work better please let me know!
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zjs23 said:
I'm sure some people have figured this out and there might even be a post about it, but I just wanted discuss what I've done to get some S-pen functionality back and to hear about what you've done. I just flashed ParanoidAndroid 3.1 and it's absolutely awesome. I didn't think I'd like not having the Samsung apps but I'm easily getting over that. I'm an avid pen user so naturally I'm doing everything I can to continue using. (Yeah it's like a drug to me.)
So, here's what I have going on:
I use GMD Spen control (found on the market for $$) to retain some gestures and add a few of my own. Unfortunately the frequently used screenshot tap is Samsung only so I'm at a loss there. It works excellent tho.
I use Catch Sketch to replace S-note. So far this app works great. The pen selector seems has a bug on the last pen and looks a lil goofy but it's basically the same as S-note. It seems to lack the color copy feature but it might show up when your coloring on a photo or something.
I use Swype that I downloaded from their actual website to retain the write to text feature.
So that's what I'm working with. If anyone has suggestions or things you've found work better please let me know!
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The only thing missing for me is the ability to take snap shots of certain parts of the screen. With the Samsung stock rom I like to be able to circle parts of the screen and cut them out. I have not found any AOSP alternative to this yet. So for now I just take a full screen shot and then crop out the bits I need. Only an extra step but hey ho.

Yeah I completely forgot about that feature. Hopefully someone will be able to make similar applications soon. But they'll probably end up replaced and obsolete soon anyways lol
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Hey guys I have an question to you.
Does it happen to you when you write on the screen with the S-Pen and you put it away, that for one to two seconds your screen doesn't react to fingerinput? No matter what app I use this happens but not in Samsung roms.

I don't generally use the s-pen, except to show off the bigger Note's flagship features to awestruck noobs. I moved to 4.2.2 but came back to a Sammy firmware based ROM yesterday, due to some issues. I used to play with the S-pen a lot when I bought the phone. There's one great s-pen app that I like, though - Scribble Racer.
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I use these apps and I'm comfortable using them
1. My story for sending letters with style (lots of options)
2. Handrite pro (like s-note) buttl batter
3. PaperArtist (paint)
4.picsArt (paint)
Some photos so u can have some idea
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ROM : cm10.1 nightly
kernel : WizDom13 1.01

dirtydeangelo said:
I use these apps and I'm comfortable using them
1. My story for sending letters with style (lots of options)
2. Handrite pro (like s-note) buttl batter
3. PaperArtist (paint)
4.picsArt (paint)
Some photos so u can have some idea
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ROM : cm10.1 nightly
kernel : WizDom13 1.01
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Yep. S-Note isn't the best for anything really. I was a fan of Lecture Notes for quite a time, now I'm using Papyrus which isn't quite as customisable but makes up by being lighter and faster. It's quite adequate for my humble needs.
Sent from the mighty Note II

I just dont have the safe feeling without my samsung apps eventhough I used apex but the feeling of samsung is gone.And im sure you would want a rom build out of a samsung note 2 source rather than a aokp or cm10.1 or even aosp or aospa sources as to me I feel it lacks of a samsung felling.battery life definitely sucks too.and to relate back to the spen well I wouldnt want to remove the spen feature even seldom use it.cuz snote sometimes comes in handy too.

You can use a gesture to take a screenshot with the S-Pen with this app, and edit the screnshots.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...2Vjb2xkYXBwcy5zY3JlZW5zaG90dWx0aW1hdGVwcm8iXQ..
But yeah can't do the selection thing.
I wish one of the note apps had floating windows.
This app is interesting, but no way to save or anything (yet).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flyingbusstudio.snappadfree

What about handwriting recognition w/ keyboard? And airview? Handrite looks fine, will have to check it out, but I keep going back to S Notes - funny
because I don't really love it either :/
Awesome Note is great, and doesn't work as seamlessly on AOSP as it does with TW, but the size is too tiny for my liking anyways, on Note II since it's optimized for Note 8.

RambJoe said:
You can use a gesture to take a screenshot with the S-Pen with this app, and edit the screnshots.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...2Vjb2xkYXBwcy5zY3JlZW5zaG90dWx0aW1hdGVwcm8iXQ..
But yeah can't do the selection thing.
I wish one of the note apps had floating windows.
This app is interesting, but no way to save or anything (yet).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flyingbusstudio.snappadfree
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I can not make it work with the s-pen screenshot ultimate pro
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Gmd spen control is the best app for rooted note2 for both aosp and tw
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I found this screenshot app called screenshot ER ... perfect to use with GMD spen controller
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Gdm spen controller
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Not sure if this is mentioned before but sketchbook mobile works amazingly well on note 2. Also s pen sensitivity on android 4.2 is much better than android 4.1.2
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i care less about s note and stuff, however the thing that i will miss if i switch to an aosp rom would be Multi windows and Air view!

can anyone provide apk for photo editor which can be found in samsung app store ??
or provide me samsung app store for note 2 so that i can download it by my own ?

You guys should have a look at this nice S Memo clone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798117

TarikVaineTree said:
You guys should have a look at this nice S Memo clone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798117
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Great app. Maybye this link should be posted in the Theme's and Apps section.

I use Papyrus, very nice S-pen app

just switched from nexus4 to s4 , things i dont like

Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!

coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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Flash an AOSP ROM.
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coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.

Thanks for your reply wolf, is it as easy as it was with nexus4 or do i have to face any trouble. I'm completely newbie in all this.

mshaw03 said:
Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
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A. Settings, its easier in vanilla.
B.All the samsung apps are coming before
C. When I long-click an app in applications menu, i liked the idea of app info/uninstall
D. Hate samsung apps ..
Also how do i find what processor my phone is running ? As I'm not sure yet which processor in India they've released.

coolraghav said:
A. Settings, its easier in vanilla.
B.All the samsung apps are coming before
C. When I long-click an app in applications menu, i liked the idea of app info/uninstall
D. Hate samsung apps ..
Also how do i find what processor my phone is running ? As I'm not sure yet which processor in India they've released.
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They've released the i9500 version and you can check the Model number of the device:
Settings->last tab->About Device->Model Number.

Just install another launcher like Nova or APEX, they will give you the plain stock Android experience you are looking for. I have Nova running and it actually sped up my phone substantially. I also checked the RAM availability before and after using Nova and essentially stayed the same. Give it a try.
coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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nycrazyg said:
Just install another launcher like Nova or APEX, they will give you the plain stock Android experience you are looking for. I have Nova running and it actually sped up my phone substantially. I also checked the RAM availability before and after using Nova and essentially stayed the same. Give it a try.
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Plain stock? No not really lol. How do you get rid of black and neon green colors

i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.

coolraghav said:
i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
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Will get my s4 tomorrow.. but in my s3, its done like this.. i am very sure its the same in the s4
Go to app drawer--> press menu button--> view type--> alphabetical grid..done
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mshaw03 said:
Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
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Chillz88 said:
Will get my s4 tomorrow.. but in my s3, its done like this.. i am very sure its the same in the s4
Go to app drawer--> press menu button--> view type--> alphabetical grid..done
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got it, thanks mate! i was just more used to 3 buttons @ bottom of screen (n4)

wednesday13 said:
Plain stock? No not really lol. How do you get rid of black and neon green colors
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Black and Neon Green colors? I'm guessing you haven't given Nova or Apex a try. It changes everything, homescreen, app drawer, and with Nova you can even set a theme color that changes the color accent colors of the Menus. I used to own a Galaxy Nexus, and I have the options using these launchers to revert everything to stock Android. Don't knock it until you try it, I mean really try it though.
coolraghav said:
i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
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If you're talking about Touch Wiz, the option is in the Touch Wiz app drawer. Hit Menu, then View Type, There's Alphabetical Grid, or Alphabetical List.

Just install nova or apex launcher. Works like a charm.
I prefer nova launcher though.

i'm coming from a nexus 4 as well i too hate all the preinstalled samsung apps, but I disabled most of them.
What I can't stand is the physical home button. Its not a deal breaker but i HATE IT

i switched from nexus 4 too.
things i hate about the s4:
1. back button on the right side because i usually use my phone with the left hand.
2. no recent apps button. so holding the home button is slow.
3. no aosp browser unless using doc's barebone rom. chrome and stock browser is so slowww compared to this.
4. bloated apps and bloated gimmicks features like smart and gesture things which slow down the phone. resolved by turning them off and using doc's barebone rom.
things to love on the s4:
1. nice screen, i mean really really great.
2. better camera than the nexus 4, the nexus 4 has cool tint, like blueish.
3. micro sd card
4. replacable battery, i mean just get the battery kit and have infinity battery. awesome.

I would like cyanogenmod on my tab, how about you?

My note 10.1-2012 with cyanogenmod is so much faster for drawing with sketchbook. Zooming and pen tracking are fantastic. I loved it so much that I went for the 2014 model. Disappoint! The whole reason i got this tab was to sketch and the performance just isnt there. Currently using the latest Bindroid and I don't blame the ROM, I blame touch wiz. Users rallied to get DutchDanny (the dev of Bindroid) a tab maybe it could happen again to get CM for us? Anyone want it want it as bad as I do?!
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mrtoast said:
My note 10.1-2012 with cyanogenmod is so much faster for drawing with sketchbook. Zooming and pen tracking are fantastic. I loved it so much that I went for the 2014 model. Disappoint! The whole reason i got this tab was to sketch and the performance just isnt there. Currently using the latest Bindroid and I don't blame the ROM, I blame touch wiz. Users rallied to get DutchDanny (the dev of Bindroid) a tab maybe it could happen again to get CM for us? Anyone want it want it as bad as I do?!
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I'm saying it here from the moment i got my Note!
But as far as i know, there is no Developer that knows how to port a Vanilla ROM to our device...
Sad
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I want it more than you!

No. Almost everyone with Note 2's 3's 2012's uses a touch wiz rom. Wont be any different here. Im not getting rid of software that makes up 90% of the reason I buy Samsung products.
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No desire for cyanogenmod here. While some of touch wiz is annoying, if I wanted a vanilla experience I would have bought a nexus.
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Duly.noted said:
No. Almost everyone with Note 2's 3's 2012's uses a touch wiz rom. Wont be any different here. Im not getting rid of software that makes up 90% of the reason I buy Samsung products.
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wingdo said:
No desire for cyanogenmod here. While some of touch wiz is annoying, if I wanted a vanilla experience I would have bought a nexus.
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GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!

ilayron8 said:
GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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Most people get a Note for the Spen features and you will lose most all of them and specifically the Air Command if you go with Cyanogen Mod. I had the Nexus 7.2 for a bit and in my opinion AOSP is very boring. A couple of years ago phones and tablets did not have the processing power to deal with TW and Sense so AOSP was very helpful for a better experience but now that is a non issue. The biggest problem with getting AOSP on this device is the cost. Most developers are not going to buy it.
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ilayron8 said:
I'm saying it here from the moment i got my Note!
But as far as i know, there is no Developer that knows how to port a Vanilla ROM to our device...
Sad
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I want it more than you!
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I am quite sure there are lots of developers capable of porting AOSP to this device. The correct way to say it is there is no one willing to port it.

ilayron8 said:
GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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You have to be kidding me. There are plenty of manufactures who give a vanilla or near vanilla experience. The nexus is a great high end vanilla experience. Why are you knowingly buying products you do not like? Like it or not, what sets *most* Android manufacturers apart are the skins they create.
Samsung must be doing something right now selling the lion's share of Android systems. I bought the note for a reason and Cyanogenmod cannot provide that same experience no matter how many 3rd party apps are installed.
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nrage23 said:
Most people get a Note for the Spen features and you will lose most all of them and specifically the Air Command if you go with Cyanogen Mod. I had the Nexus 7.2 for a bit and in my opinion AOSP is very boring. A couple of years ago phones and tablets did not have the processing power to deal with TW and Sense so AOSP was very helpful for a better experience but now that is a non issue. The biggest problem with getting AOSP on this device is the cost. Most developers are not going to buy it.
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I am quite sure there are lots of developers capable of porting AOSP to this device. The correct way to say it is there is no one willing to port it.
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wingdo said:
You have to be kidding me. There are plenty of manufactures who give a vanilla or near vanilla experience. The nexus is a great high end vanilla experience. Why are you knowingly buying products you do not like? Like it or not, what sets *most* Android manufacturers apart are the skins they create.
Samsung must be doing something right now selling the lion's share of Android systems. I bought the note for a reason and Cyanogenmod cannot provide that same experience no matter how many 3rd party apps are installed.
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I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!

ilayron8 said:
I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
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The Spen features are built into the framework. Cyanogen Mod does not have the feature in its framework. Also the Note devices have a Wacom digitizer along with the standard capacitive touchscreen. Some apps will work in Cyanogen mod but no apps which use the Samsung SDK for pen features will work. While I used the Nexus 7 2013, Cyanogen Mod was the worst of the AOSP based roms as they changed their drivers from AOSP based to CAF based which broke lots of things. The best AOSP roms are AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP would change this tablet into a faster Nexus 10 which I had and got the Note 2014 because of the Spen features.
PS Ditch the CAPSLOCK. No need in yelling since you are voicing opinions.

I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?

nrage23 said:
The Spen features are built into the framework. Cyanogen Mod does not have the feature in its framework. Also the Note devices have a Wacom digitizer along with the standard capacitive touchscreen. Some apps will work in Cyanogen mod but no apps which use the Samsung SDK for pen features will work. While I used the Nexus 7 2013, Cyanogen Mod was the worst of the AOSP based roms as they changed their drivers from AOSP based to CAF based which broke lots of things. The best AOSP roms are AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP would change this tablet into a faster Nexus 10 which I had and got the Note 2014 because of the Spen features.
PS Ditch the CAPSLOCK. No need in yelling since you are voicing opinions.
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Ok, have fun with your S Pen apps.
C2Q said:
I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
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I completly agree with you.
S Pen Apps are nice, but I don't use them often. I'm using my S Pen to draw, to write things quickly (yeah, an S Pen app but can replaced by an App from the Play Store) and to control easily the Note. That's a lot of good things, but they all can work on CM.
Multi Windows is the problem. Yes, there are few nice apps that can replace it, but far from TW's feature. But i guess that when the developers will want to bring it as an App, they'll to it.

C2Q said:
I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
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It would probably help you out to go to the Note 3 forums to see how AOSP roms are functioning since they are similar.

Look at that guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diIwfyo4nHQ
I know it's not CM (Omni will probably wont get to our device anytime soon), I just want you to see that it's possible...

Who knows..maybe if CM comes to the TabPro, we might be able to get it since the hardware is practically the same.

Options are always nice. Some people (like me) are considering buy the Note 10.1 instead of the Tab Pro because of the 3gb RAM and because you can get a 32 GB version now. Couldn't care less about the pen! Would very much like some stock ROM options.

ilayron8 said:
GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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ilayron8 said:
I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
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Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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Why do you care so much about how someone else uses their tablet? If you don't want a stock ROM, don't use it easy.
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Duly.noted said:
Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
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C2Q said:
Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
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exposed is nowhere near Samsung. 50/50 only and has to be selected from recent apps window. doesnt support drag drop and no 4 way window. Exposed doesn't do all apps floating either. Drag and drop supports text and pictures, and text works in many applications, example
MAME is strictly a non-profit project. Its main p
C2Q said:
Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
Some people...
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exposed is nowhere near Samsung. 50/50 only and has to be selected from recent apps window. doesnt support drag drop and no 4 way window. Exposed doesn't do all apps floating either. Drag and drop supports text and pictures, and text works in many applications, example
MAME is strictly a non-profit project. Its main purpose is to be a reference to the inner workings
of the emulated arcade machines. This is done both for educational purposes and for preservation
purposes, in order to prevent many historical games from disappearing forever once the hardware they
run on stops working. Of course, in order to preserve the games and demonstrate that the emulated
behavior matches the original, you must also be able to actually play the games. This is considered
a nice side effect, and is not MAME's primary focus.
Drag and drop text supports any app that uses the android system text copy and paste functions. as for as I can tell. Most text fields take it. And you can share screenshots almost anywhere. And what I meat was that very few people prefer the Hosp roms. Hence the giant number of TW Roms in comparison.
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Duly.noted said:
Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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I'm tired of arguing with you...
Go and have fun with your TW and let ME to choose how to use my tablet.

LG G4 Multiwindow is highly Disappointing

On G4 they move multi window function to recent button which you cant start by long pressing it ! You have to stop whatever you are doing (eg watching youtube) and open recent windows and open another one. Thats means you video will be stopped. Am i only one who thinks this is stupid thing they did on this new UI ?
Multi window on Note 4 is so awesome. On G3 it was so so but on G4 they completely ruined it. I hope we soon have some modes to make it usefull.
Whats your thought ?

I think it's a little silly to actually try to do dual windows on such a small screen, but each to their own. It comes in handy when I need to write an email while watching a video though.

For me is disappointing since just few apps are supported...

You can add a dual window home button

I also had the Note 4 and I think both version of multi-windows suck.
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diamond12 said:
You can add a dual window home button
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Thanks now better. Still it sucks on G4.

Sfkn2 said:
I think it's a little silly to actually try to do dual windows on such a small screen, but each to their own. It comes in handy when I need to write an email while watching a video though.
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I couldn't find much use for it even on a ten inch tab.
multi-window needs a bigger screen, workstation size.15 inches or more.

olivercervera said:
For me is disappointing since just few apps are supported...
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Once we have root you can enable all apps with a simple build prop edit.

It doesn't even come close to the Samsung multi window

barondebxl said:
It doesn't even come close to the Samsung multi window
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I'm not sure what you mean it doesn't come close they both crappy.. Samsung just looks prettier with the way its implemented with the side panel and various other ways to get into multi window mode.. But once you in multi-windows, it's the same crap.
And don't even try to use any productivity apps... Once you open the keyboard it takes up both windows making it completely useless.
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shook187 said:
I'm not sure what you mean it doesn't come close they both crappy.. Samsung just looks prettier with the way its implemented with the side panel and various other ways to get into multi window mode.. But once you in multi-windows, it's the same crap.
And don't even try to use any productivity apps... Once you open the keyboard it takes up both windows making it completely useless.
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The one on the S6 is not only noticeably smoother but it supports more apps and is just overall more refined. I used the one on the G4 and its really not as good

I'm disappointed with multi window as well, but honestly I kind of expected it. It is the same as the G3. The good news is that once we gain root permissions, a simple build.prop change fixes some of the major limitations. Note my highlighted line should be changed
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persist.splitwindow.support_all=false
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persist.splitwindow.support_all=true.
But for now it is severely limited!

And this will enable other apps like whatsapp to be displayed?

oile said:
And this will enable other apps like whatsapp to be displayed?
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yes. and every other app you have on your phone.

Never use multi window feature on my tab s 10, I find it too small. So I didn't miss a thing with G4 multi window.