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So guys,waiting for my GS2 to arrive tomorrow and it's time for the hundred bucks question:
Will we be able to overclock the Mali GPU in the GS2 like the SGX540 in the original GS was?Imagine the performance of this thing with an overclocked GPU!
And before you ask,no,its stock power isn't enough for me.As long as I can get more out of it that is.I will probably have it running at 1.5GHz everyday,so I'm not the kind of guy who will "proceed with caution"!
Thanks!All feedback welcome!
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I've got my CPU underclocked to 500 MHz and honestly can't tell the difference between 1.2 GHz and 500 MHz...
I even gave my phone to a colleague who has one too, and he was using it without a thought. He indeed asked me why mine was faster than his... xD
So not a clue if you can OC the GPU, but I've yet to see a single reason to OC this phone.
pulser_g2 said:
I've got my CPU underclocked to 500 MHz and honestly can't tell the difference between 1.2 GHz and 500 MHz...
I even gave my phone to a colleague who has one too, and he was using it without a thought. He indeed asked me why mine was faster than his... xD
So not a clue if you can OC the GPU, but I've yet to see a single reason to OC this phone.
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Well,power corrupts my friend!And with a phone so powerful I can't help it!
Seriously though,it is nice if something like this is possible.See the original GS.The overclock of its GPU puts it against most dual core phones easily and it even bests some of them.Not likely something everyone will need in their everyday lives but you never know what the future holds!Maybe we will rival the Kal-El(Not likely I think but let's hope)!
Happy to see you here by the way pulser.It's really an honour!
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So no one interested?
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pulser_g2 said:
I've got my CPU underclocked to 500 MHz and honestly can't tell the difference between 1.2 GHz and 500 MHz...
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I have almost the same experience here, except I could see a difference between 500 and 800 Mhz, but anything above 800Mhz almost didn't change anything. Which proves that the CPU is not the bottleneck, so we should try to overclock the GPU
BlueScreenJunky said:
I have almost the same experience here, except I could see a difference between 500 and 800 Mhz, but anything above 800Mhz almost didn't change anything. Which proves that the CPU is not the bottleneck, so we should try to overclock the GPU
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ALMOST in my mind.Almost.My CPU for one will be a 1.5GHz one!Or even more!
Well,since pulser gave attention to the thread I am a little confident it might even be followed by some devs at some time(or that someone works on it at least),so I want to ask these two regarding the lack of texture compression formats issue:
1)Does anyone know whether Chainfire intends to make any plugins for Chainfire3D himself?While the available plugins do the job for some games,they don't for some others.So,I think Chainfire is our guy on this!
2)Is the issue hardware or software related?If it is software,what are the odds that Samsung or ARM provide a driver with support for all texture compression formats?I don't think that's likely to happen but,oh well,we can always hope for it!
tolis626 said:
2)Is the issue hardware or software related?If it is software,what are the odds that Samsung or ARM provide a driver with support for all texture compression formats?I don't think that's likely to happen but,oh well,we can always hope for it!
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It's definitely hardware related. Mali doesn't support Nvidia's, PowerVR's or Adreno's proprietary texture compression formats.
I think the gpu get overclocked with the cpu or at least that's how it was on the s1.
FPRobber said:
It's definitely hardware related. Mali doesn't support Nvidia's, PowerVR's or Adreno's proprietary texture compression formats.
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Oh well,my hopes are gone then...
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bcam117 said:
I think the gpu get overclocked with the cpu or at least that's how it was on the s1.
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I think it was seperately overclocked with a special kernel on the GS...I could be wrong but I doubt this as it had made me feel very jealous that it wasn't possible with my Desire.
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Oh well,my hopes are gone then...
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no, CF3D is a work around this VERY hardware "issue"
there can be other hardware things that aren't compatible however.
wait isn't the Mail 400 GPU a quad-core? I've been hearing that it is but Samsung have disabled 2 cores to a dual core GPU.
dk206 said:
I've been hearing that it is but Samsung have disabled 2 cores to a dual core GPU.
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Where did you hear that?
dk206 said:
wait isn't the Mail 400 GPU a quad-core? I've been hearing that it is but Samsung have disabled 2 cores to a dual core GPU.
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I think with dual-core they are referring to the CPU only.The GPU must have remained quad-core.Else how would it pit against the octa-core GeForce of the Tegra?
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omg i got 5000 (4951) score in quadrant overclock 1.6 ghz 1400 mv
With tegrak kernel and tegrak OC utility you can OC GPU, normally it idles at 160MHz and under load clocks to 267 MHz, max OC is 400MHz but phone gets really hot.
mine is stock. when the i play f&f 5 the battery would reach 10% in 2 hours!! so my guess is that oc the GPU would cause a huge drain for the battery
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With tegrak kernel and tegrak OC utility you can OC GPU, normally it idles at 160MHz and under load clocks to 267 MHz, max OC is 400MHz but phone gets really hot.
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does the kernel offer good alround support?
comnam90 said:
does the kernel offer good alround support?
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It's stable and provides great performance. Although I'm using Ninphetamine right now. Can't use Tegrak oc with nin though. Only setcpu. Nin is oc to1.6 ghz. Tegrak is oc to 1.45GHZ.
EDIT: Just switched back to Tegrak kernel. Manual oc to 2.0 GHZ..Using Tegrak Oc. Stable.
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Finally we have a fair test for the dual cores. Just been running it and i have the top 5 scores!!
Is that 1608mhz , your phone must be on fire
Now have 150.595. It was a bit warm. I expect it to fall as the number one soon, i m sure there are guys on here with over 1.7ghz. I cant seem to get that to stay stable.
Finally! My highest (1.2) was 122 although that was an inconsistent result. My average high is around 100. Wonder what the Sensation and Tegra devices are hitting.....
Regards.
Best i can do so far.
I'm getting wildly inconsistent results. Managed to get 120 at 1200mhz with a accuracy of 2.2 after a dozen runs.
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Yeah you just have to keep trying until you get a high score with a valid accuracy. It wont let you save unless its consistently accurate.
MaBlo said:
I'm getting wildly inconsistent results. Managed to get 120 at 1200mhz with a accuracy of 2.2 after a dozen runs.
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did you set both minimum speed and maximum speed to 1200?
152 is my new high, thats it for a while, battery flat, phone rather warm!
140 is my best stable score, running @1.425ghz using Tegrak
rovex said:
152 is my new high, thats it for a while, battery flat, phone rather warm!
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the top 10 has only your results in it, lol
Its the Moto Zooms i worry about., Although the Tegra is slower the Zoom seems to be able to hit up to 2GHz. We need a 1.8Ghz SGS2 to keep them down..
I do wonder if the Atom powered tabs will beat us though.
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did you set both minimum speed and maximum speed to 1200?
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Yes I did.
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I got 155.597 MFLOPS with my Galaxy S II overcloked to 1.56 GHz at 1.375v on Core voltage.
The rest is default.
I can probably break 160 MFLOPS if i take the CPU speed up to 1.65 GHz if i can get it to run stable there.
rovex said:
Its the Moto Zooms i worry about., Although the Tegra is slower the Zoom seems to be able to hit up to 2GHz. We need a 1.8Ghz SGS2 to keep them down..
I do wonder if the Atom powered tabs will beat us though.
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Let me get this straight, you're 'worried' about another phone putting in a better score than your phone on a benchmark program?
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Pagnell said:
Let me get this straight, you're 'worried' about another phone putting in a better score than your phone on a benchmark program?
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LOL, my thoughts exactly reading this entire thread...
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Let me get this straight, you're 'worried' about another phone putting in a better score than your phone on a benchmark program?
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He's not even talking about a phone, if I understood what he meant, he's talking about the Xoom tablet.
[Sarcasm] Yes im going to have sleepless nights for weeks about it..[/sarcasm]
I would have thought the context (competitive spirit) was obvious..
Anyway it seem the Sensation bunch have found the Linpack cheat. 200 on a 1.2ghz non overclocked Sensation.. Nah...
Ok, now i managed to get 170.027 MFLOPS in Linpack with the CPU at 1.58 GHz and the Core voltage on 1.375v .
So far the phone are 100% stable at this clock.
Tom-Helge said:
Ok, now i managed to get 170.027 MFLOPS in Linpack with the CPU at 1.58 GHz and the Core voltage on 1.375v .
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So far the phone are 100% stable at this clock.
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Precision: Inconsistent Result
It's been about a year since any benchmarking threads have been created for the A500, and I'm interested to see how people are getting better performance.
I'm running Flexreaper v5 and I score around 6200 in AnTuTu. One other ROMs and other kernels I'm getting around 4300. However, the AnTuTu comparison charts show quite a few people scoring 7500+ with the A500.
How are people getting such high results?
Overclocking maybe?
essevee said:
Overclocking maybe?
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Hoping for something a bit more specific. Kernel, ROM, CPU Frequency...
BTW - Mine is OCed to 1.5 GHz
Think I found one of the ROMs that's getting such high performance. I got the JB ROM from he would cannot be named, and this thing flies! 5600 in AnTuTu with no OC. Set GPU to 400 MHz and OC'ed CPU to 1.6 GHz, and that clocked in at 7225.
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Think I found one of the ROMs that's getting such high performance. I got the JB ROM from he would cannot be named, and this thing flies! 5600 in AnTuTu with no OC. Set GPU to 400 MHz and OC'ed CPU to 1.6 GHz, and that clocked in at 7225.
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I'd be a little careful at 1.6. Runs a little unstable, and is only for benchmarks.
Moscow Desire said:
I'd be a little careful at 1.6. Runs a little unstable, and is only for benchmarks.
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It looks like the new kernel allows clocking up to 1.68, so I have just left it at an even 1.6. I haven't run into any major instability so far (knock on wood), and I really like how smooth it is. I've finally been able to play Asphalt 7 smoothly (good way to blow off steam at work). Thanks, though.
Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock and should I go higher maybe 2.2GHz
extremetempz said:
Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock
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Wow I'm surprised your play didn't explode lol
OT: are you still going to make that cm7 ROM you mentioned a while back because I'm sure lots of people are interested
Edit: can you tell what kernel/ROM you used and how you did it. Thanks
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abdel12345 said:
Wow I'm surprised your play didn't explode lol
OT: are you still going to make that cm7 ROM you mentioned a while back because I'm sure lots of people are interested
Edit: can you tell what kernel/ROM you used and how you did it. Thanks
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I need to fix lots of errors with the GB and I modified lupus v10 GB kernel
extremetempz said:
Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock
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Water cooling?
SmokeyTheAggie said:
Water cooling?
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Water cooled would be soo awesome !
there is a theory by turgot, that increasing a faktor wont increase the outcome at a specific point anymore. therefore i would be really interested how your play handles games at that oc. not only a benchmark, something like a video where its possible to see occouring errors, if there are any
this is great work you did, and it may allows some modification to the play.yes im thinking about cooling..even if it wont be that portable anymore. thanks for your help
2.3GHz
I'm currently going where no developer would go before my customized kernel has 26 CPU frequinces all up and a max of 2.3GHz
But without the GPU overclock and a 8mb GPU memory vs Lupus and dooms 4mb
i cant go even more than 1.6ghz
Needed an extra cooler solution and an powerful battery, like Mugen 3600mAh, to maintain this level of OC for diary use. Would be amazing!
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But without the GPU overclock and a 8mb GPU memory vs Lupus and dooms 4mb
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Wait, what? Lupus Kernel offers increased amount of VRAM?
IMHO this is perfectly fine if you don't care so much about the device, otherwise you would be crazy. OC'ng so high will eventually cause in-reversable damage. I know what your doing so no need for me to ask questions But even if its stable for you it wont be for others all depends on the chip and as we know each is different. Also even if people don't use 2.x ghz frequencies tend to jump to the highest for a mili second if even on boot, causing problems with the device actually booting.
Well just my 2 cents on OC'ing...
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IMHO this is perfectly fine if you don't care so much about the device, otherwise you would be crazy. OC'ng so high will eventually cause in-reversable damage. I know what your doing so no need for me to ask questions But even if its stable for you it wont be for others all depends on the chip and as we know each is different. Also even if people don't use 2.x ghz frequencies tend to jump to the highest for a mili second if even on boot, causing problems with the device actually booting.
Well just my 2 cents on OC'ing...
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What about 2 cents on this VRAM apparently being doubled?
At the end of the day its not GMEM which is essentially like a processors cache. Our chip has 256kb of it. But the allocated VMEM, would upping it to 8MB provide any sort of performance increase?
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Spizzy01 said:
What about 2 cents on this VRAM apparently being doubled?
At the end of the day its not GMEM which is essentially like a processors cache. Our chip has 256kb of it. But the allocated VMEM, would upping it to 8MB provide any sort of performance increase?
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So it's true then? How can it be possible?
Wow. Just wow.
Extremetempz, your username fits so well with this thread.
extremetempz said:
Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock and should I go higher maybe 2.2GHz
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Can you get a stable 2.0ghz if so how do you do it?
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psxpetey said:
Can you get a stable 2.0ghz if so how do you do it?
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I don't know it just works up to 2.2GHz and then crash but my brothers play can only reach 1.6GHz every device is diferent
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I don't know it just works up to 2.2GHz and then crash but my brothers play can only reach 1.6GHz every device is diferent
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Can you post some benchmarks for the CPU? And also tell us more about the VRAM... Did it make any difference?
I believe that the Xplay has good chances of reach 2.0GHZ, running fine, provided has an good thermal solution. In my test, the games run fine for some minutes, before start overheat. Needed of somebody to build an custom cooler, then, make some tests. In my opinion, the safe clock, for sure, is not only 1.6GHZ. Only for default cooler.
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Can you post some benchmarks for the CPU? And also tell us more about the VRAM... Did it make any difference?
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I CBF screen shooting but CPU at 2.1 is around 20% faster then 1.6 and the GPU is around 25% faster with a 2600 3d score in antutu without adrenobooster
I know it's kind of not allowed to redistribute this but can u upload the kernel and send it ti me (PM) cus I will take some screens ans my play can handle 2GHz fine but bootloops when gaming after about 30-50 minutwa (depends on intensity of game!)
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I recently flashed franco.kernel onto my 16GB Nexus 4 (rooted, PA3+) and I overclocked it, but I was wondering how far I can go. I heard about a possible 2GHZ overclock but I'm not sure what kernel that uses. Any suggestions?
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I recently flashed franco.kernel onto my 16GB Nexus 4 (rooted, PA3+) and I overclocked it, but I was wondering how far I can go. I heard about a possible 2GHZ overclock but I'm not sure what kernel that uses. Any suggestions?
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no one can run 2ghz on their nexus 4
nvm.
simms22 said:
no one can run 2ghz on their nexus 4
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A test kernel someone made awhile back when the nexus first came out it ran fine at 2ghz was a little hot at times but it worked :laugh:
Well, what is the highest that I would be able to overclock my Nexus, anyway? franco goes up to 1.7, I'm wondering whether it's possible to go any higher. And if I could go any higher, what kernel would I have to use? I'm just quite curious.
Faux has one that goes to 1.9 i think
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Faux has one that goes to 1.9 i think
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test it. it doesnt test as a 1.9 kernel no matter how hard you try, its not really 1.9ghz. a 1.9ghz clocked cpu, will test like a 1.9 ghz cpu, not a 1.7ghz cpu. there are other kernels that go to 1.944ghz also, they test like 1.944ghz. but that doesnt matter, most phones will not be able to run at a "real" 1.944ghz.
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test it. it doesnt test as a 1.9 kernel no matter how hard you try, its not really 1.9ghz. a 1.9ghz clocked cpu, will test like a 1.9 ghz cpu, not a 1.7ghz cpu. there are other kernels that go to 1.944ghz also, they test like 1.944ghz. but that doesnt matter, most phones will not be able to run at a "real" 1.944ghz.
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Mine runs at 1.944 just fine, with an undervolt of 150 across the board
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Mine runs at 1.944 just fine, with an undervolt of 150 across the board
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bench it, show me that it benches like 1944mhz. just because it says 1.9ghz, doesnt mean it actually is. that can be faked. 1944mhz will bench like 1944mhz, 1836mhz will bench like 1836mhz, and so on. if it benches like 1.7, 1.6, 1.5ghz, then its not 1.9ghz. sure benchmarks dont show real world use, but they do show what speed you are testing by their results. we know what range each speed should test at. fauxs' 1.9ghz doesnt test where 1.9ghz should test at, and faux has been caught before, on other devices, showing that the device is running at a higher speed when actually isnt.
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bench it, show me that it benches like 1944mhz. just because it says 1.9ghz, doesnt mean it actually is. that can be faked. 1944mhz will bench like 1944mhz, 1836mhz will bench like 1836mhz, and so on. if it benches like 1.7, 1.6, 1.5ghz, then its not 1.9ghz. sure benchmarks dont show real world use, but they do show what speed you are testing by their results. we know what range each speed should test at. fauxs' 1.9ghz doesnt test where 1.9ghz should test at, and faux has been caught before, on other devices, showing that the device is running at a higher speed when actually isnt.
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Its becuase it throttles down when benching, its cause the freq cant stay that high the whole time without risking damaging the board so it throttles down to lower "safer" freq. On real cpu on a computer it has fan speeds to go higher when the temp is to high but that solution is not possible for mobile soc.
franco probably belives that 1.7 is the best possible OC since the throttling wont be that high. I would say that he is right but i prefer the stock speed and never mess with OC on mobile soc. But thats just me
More than often to much OC gives the opposite effect and makes the phone slower because of all the throttling.
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Utacka said:
Its becuase it throttles down when benching, its cause the freq cant stay that high the whole time without risking damaging the board so it throttles down to lower "safer" freq. On real cpu on a computer it has fan speeds to go higher when the temp is to high but that solution is not possible for mobile soc.
franco probably belives that 1.7 is the best possible OC since the throttling wont be that high. I would say that he is right but i prefer the stock speed and never mess with OC on mobile soc. But thats just me
More than often to much OC gives the opposite effect and makes the phone slower because of all the throttling.
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Thanks, I see what you mean now.
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IMO Trinity is probably best for overclocking, but even it can only go up to 1836 MHz. Also, there are risks to OC as well--which ranges from overheating to red light of death to your phone spontaneously combusting. Just letting you know
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