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[Q] Titanium Backup Restore from different device

Can I back up the app data on a Galaxy Nexus with Titanium Backup and then restore the data to those same apps on my Nexus 10?

xda6969 said:
Can I back up the app data on a Galaxy Nexus with Titanium Backup and then restore the data to those same apps on my Nexus 10?
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Yes but I suggest to just restore apps not app/data. Since it came from a different device N10 may not like the data stored in those apps and you'll more then likely run into problems.
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jjdevega said:
Yes but I suggest to just restore apps not app/data. Since it came from a different device N10 may not like the data stored in those apps and you'll more then likely run into problems.
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The apps are easy, I don't need those restored. It's the data that's important. That's what I need restored..all my settings, game progress, etc.

Yes I'm wondering the same thing. I'd like to be able to get game saves from my galaxy nexus. It would be even more awesome if the saves could sync.

No problem for me to restore app + data from my Galaxy Note under JB...
Of course I haven't done this with system app
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Restoring game data or downloaded app settings data is fine with Titanium Backup from one device to another.
You do not want to restore any system app data/settings. I've done it for years moving from old phone to new phone or old tablet to new tablet.
User apps = OK
System apps = BAD
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tcrews said:
Restoring game data or downloaded app settings data is fine with Titanium Backup from one device to another.
You do not want to restore any system app data/settings. I've done it for years moving from old phone to new phone or old tablet to new tablet.
User apps = OK
System apps = BAD
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Thank you.

How can I do this? I moved the two backup files onto my new device but I'm not sure how to get them to restore in TBU so I can restore them. I tried importing them but that fails. I can now see the app in my list of downloads (with a line through it) but when I try to restore it doesn't work. It appears as if it works but the app is not on my device.
Do I need to first install the app from Play and then restore over that? I'm missing a step here.
tcrews said:
Restoring game data or downloaded app settings data is fine with Titanium Backup from one device to another.
You do not want to restore any system app data/settings. I've done it for years moving from old phone to new phone or old tablet to new tablet.
User apps = OK
System apps = BAD
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Daethian said:
How can I do this? I moved the two backup files onto my new device but I'm not sure how to get them to restore in TBU so I can restore them. I tried importing them but that fails. I can now see the app in my list of downloads (with a line through it) but when I try to restore it doesn't work. It appears as if it works but the app is not on my device.
Do I need to first install the app from Play and then restore over that? I'm missing a step here.
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I've not tried doing any of this yet, but one problem would be the device I. D. has changed between the new device & old one. I would think that the app (especially a paid one) would first have to be installed via Play Store to the new device. Then maybe "data only" restored? When I change roms, my device ID always changes also, and before any paid apps can be re-installed I have to allow TiBu to restore the old ID first.
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[Q] Moving from "old" nexus 4 to "new" nexus 4 via Nandroid backup?

[Q] Moving from "old" nexus 4 to "new" nexus 4 via Nandroid backup?
I just got my warranty replacement nexus 4 (Google support is amazing!), and want to transfer stuff from my "old" nexus 4 to my "new" nexus 4. Is it possible to do it via NANDROID backup? Is there any information that depends on the actual hardware information (maybe things like google login is in some way connected to the serial number of the phone)?
Thanks for advices.

You can do it that way but I would prefer starting fresh with only restoring app data..
Back up your current apps with carbon (recommend just doing app data), and copy the carbon folder and everything else on the sd card you need to your computer. Sign into your new phone and let the apps download. Copy the carbon folder and everything else you need onto your new device. Restore all the apps data.

Re: [Q] Moving from "old" nexus 4 to "new" nexus 4 via Nandroid backup?
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I just got my warranty replacement nexus 4 (Google support is amazing!), and want to transfer stuff from my "old" nexus 4 to my "new" nexus 4. Is it possible to do it via NANDROID backup? Is there any information that depends on the actual hardware information (maybe things like google login is in some way connected to the serial number of the phone)?
Thanks for advices.
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apple never do this, google is better and cheaper
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DONT restore whole nandroid !!!
seriously you could do some damage AFAIK (at least that was the case on my HTC desire or G1 as i recall some similiar thread on xda)
feel free to restore Carbon / Titanium / Mybackup applications and their data but not the WHOLE nandroid !!!
of course i could be wrong and restoring nandroid could be 100% safe.
but as i said i do recall some guy messing things up by exactly doin that, just cant remember which phone was that.

As others have said, using Titanium or a similar backup app is probably the safest option. One thing you could try is doing a full backup but then doing an 'advanced restore' in recovery and only restoring the /data partition. I'm not entirely sure whether this will work but it was fine on my old HD2. Still, I personally see Titanium as being the best solution.

Thanks everybody for the advice, yea I have Titanium licence and I feel I bought carbon as well (I like supporting good developers), so I'll try it that way.
@dzumagos: thanks for warning, I was going to test it if it works, but after reading your post - I think I'll just stick with Titanium or Carbon.

I used a nandroid to my replacement and it worked like a charmed. Titanium backup sucks and always puts my phone not a boot loop.

on an older phone, htc evo 4g I had 2 phones, the nandroid would not restore on the second phone, the device id or something was different.

persano said:
apple never do this, google is better and cheaper
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Can anybody translate this into English for me please?

Krunk83 said:
Titanium backup sucks and always puts my phone not a boot loop.
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This is an opinion, so don't state it as a fact. I reckon I've used Titanium well over 30 times to backup/restore (I was constantly changing ROMs on my HD2) and it has never failed me. As long as you don't mess with system settings and are sensible with what you restore you should never have a bootloop when using Titanium.

[Q] Titanium Backup: why create new APKs of the same version when updating data?

So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten. I allow 3 copies of backups with TiBu but my scheduled "redo backups for modified data" overwrites them quite often. I end up with 3 backups of the same app but they're all for the same version. The old version gets deleted because my scheduled "redo backups with modified data" detects new data and then does a new backup.
I wish it would only update the data and not the APK? What's the point of constantly updating the APK for an app when the version is still the same.
Yes, I want it to constantly update the data so I have the latest backup all the time, but it would be nice if it could do that and always save the last 2-3 APK versions as well...
Am I totally missing something here is it just the way it works for now? Thanks for any help!

jeffreii said:
So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten. I allow 3 copies of backups with TiBu but my scheduled "redo backups for modified data" overwrites them quite often. I end up with 3 backups of the same app but they're all for the same version. The old version gets deleted because my scheduled "redo backups with modified data" detects new data and then does a new backup.
I wish it would only update the data and not the APK? What's the point of constantly updating the APK for an app when the version is still the same.
Yes, I want it to constantly update the data so I have the latest backup all the time, but it would be nice if it could do that and always save the last 2-3 APK versions as well...
Am I totally missing something here is it just the way it works for now? Thanks for any help!
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There is an option to update 'app only', 'app + data', 'data only'.
Do you have an old Nandroid with the older version of the app available? If so just go into your Nandroid backup and pull out that APK.

blyndfyre said:
There is an option to update 'app only', 'app + data', 'data only'.
Do you have an old Nandroid with the older version of the app available? If so just go into your Nandroid backup and pull out that APK.
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Hi and thanks for the response!
Can you please tell me where you see that option? I've seen those options when restoring backups...it lets you pick what to restore...but I can't seem to find an option like that for backups...
Thanks again.

jeffreii said:
Hi and thanks for the response!
Can you please tell me where you see that option? I've seen those options when restoring backups...it lets you pick what to restore...but I can't seem to find an option like that for backups...
Thanks again.
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Maybe I'm mistaken and the Titanium Backup Script will not allow that. Did you have the old APK in an old Nandroid backup?
You can try either of these apps from the Play Store. They both allow you to back up data only:
My Backup
DataSync

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Maybe I'm mistaken and the Titanium Backup Script will not allow that. Did you have the old APK in an old Nandroid backup?/... DataSync
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Good Recommendation! there often are older versions of the app in nandroid backups, and TIBU will allow restore from Nandroid backups. :angel:
1. Go to the Main Menu
2. Scroll down to the Special Backup/Restore Menu (5th topic down)
3. select "EXTRACT FROM NANDROID BACKUP"
4. you will get a listing of all your nandroid backups and you can chose the one you want to take the app from.
5. It will take a bit to analyze the Nandroid and present you with the files menu.
6. Choose the file(s) you need to restore and do it!
jeffreii: So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten.
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#1. Since you may have already "lost" the old version of the app because it has been updated, then to find an oilder version you could check some of the other app stores that frequently offer older versions of apps -some app stores have a listing of ALL versions of (some) apps! . . . so you can check them and see if you can find the older version --or even email the author of the app...:cyclops:
#2. Once you get your old app back, one option is to make a copy of the "good version" of that app from your apps directory and place it on your SD card or a data directory and keep overwriting the "new" app when the author publishes a new version.:good: :good:
#3. Also, once you get you app back (hopefully!) It sounds to me like you should turn off PLAY STORE AUTOMATIC UPDATING for this app. You do this once and then allow selective apps to auto update -but not allow global updating of apps. SO manually permit or don't permit updates depending upon the app (I do that with my Kindle Fire HD, since play wants to update the Amazon store -but that breaks the built in Kindle store, so I don't allow that app to update automatically).
Good Luck!

blyndfyre said:
Maybe I'm mistaken and the Titanium Backup Script will not allow that. Did you have the old APK in an old Nandroid backup?
You can try either of these apps from the Play Store. They both allow you to back up data only:
My Backup
DataSync
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I can't find the old APK in my backups (TiBu and Nandroids). I've made another thread to ask for help finding it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380165
This thread I'd like to get help with TiBu though!
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Good Recommendation! there often are older versions of the app in nandroid backups, and TIBU will allow restore from Nandroid backups. :angel:
1. Go to the Main Menu
2. Scroll down to the Special Backup/Restore Menu (5th topic down)
3. select "EXTRACT FROM NANDROID BACKUP"
4. you will get a listing of all your nandroid backups and you can chose the one you want to take the app from.
5. It will take a bit to analyze the Nandroid and present you with the files menu.
6. Choose the file(s) you need to restore and do it!
jeffreii: So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten.
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#1. Since you may have already "lost" the old version of the app because it has been updated, then to find an oilder version you could check some of the other app stores that frequently offer older versions of apps -some app stores have a listing of ALL versions of (some) apps! . . . so you can check them and see if you can find the older version --or even email the author of the app...:cyclops:
#2. Once you get your old app back, one option is to make a copy of the "good version" of that app from your apps directory and place it on your SD card or a data directory and keep overwriting the "new" app when the author publishes a new version.:good: :good:
#3. Also, once you get you app back (hopefully!) It sounds to me like you should turn off PLAY STORE AUTOMATIC UPDATING for this app. You do this once and then allow selective apps to auto update -but not allow global updating of apps. SO manually permit or don't permit updates depending upon the app (I do that with my Kindle Fire HD, since play wants to update the Amazon store -but that breaks the built in Kindle store, so I don't allow that app to update automatically).
Good Luck!
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I checked my old Nandroids/TiBu backups but could not find the APK - did that before making this thread. Trust me I have automatic updating off...I like to read change logs before accepting any updates.
My problem with TiBu is still unaddressed though...even if I allow TiBu to keep, say, 5 backups of each app...if I have a scheduled backup to "redo backups with modified data" and the data is modified in a certain app each time, once that runs 5 times I will have 5 backups of the same version APK along with 5 separate data points.
The 5 separate data points are exactly what you'd want...but if creating 5 APKs of the same version of the app ends up deleting the 6th backup which had the older APK version...what's the point of that? I'm left with 5 identical APKs and the older version, which I actually wanted, got to deleted because TiBu needed to backup the data.
Does that make sense?

markbc01 said:
... The 5 separate data points are exactly what you'd want...but if creating 5 APKs of the same version of the app ends up deleting the 6th backup which had the older APK version...what's the point of that? I'm left with 5 identical APKs and the older version, which I actually wanted, got to deleted because TiBu needed to backup the data. Does that make sense?
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OK, I think I get it. TIBU will backup all copies it sees but it is not "smart enough" to preserve versions per se. (I may be wrong -but that's what I see so far). The six copies you mention are time based vice version based, so it's good logic for what it does. It just does not save based on versions. . . Perhaps that is an option we should ask the developer for! I think the focus of the frequent multiple backups is primarily on data, so it's good , but maybe not enough!
I just checked my own backups. I have max backup history of 5 and those 5 backups are done one by one over a two week period (of course). So I have many copies of each app that are identical --except when changes occur. Most apps right now have 5 identical copies, but for 7Zipper, Handnote and Gmail,(for example) each of them has two versions. I won't lose the "older versions" of these apps for a week or so, but after that they will disappear if I want ot save those older versions, well, I would have to take one of the measures that I mentioned before (copying over to another directory etc.)
I was going to ask -since you turned off auto updates-- how the app got updated, but I have discovered that even when I do that there is the occassional app that updates anyway -because I inadvertently said yes to some prompt, or perhaps the author had some auto update feature that I could not block. . .
Sorry I can't give you a better solution. . .

markbc01 said:
OK, I think I get it. TIBU will backup all copies it sees but it is not "smart enough" to preserve versions per se. (I may be wrong -but that's what I see so far). The six copies you mention are time based vice version based, so it's good logic for what it does. It just does not save based on versions. . . Perhaps that is an option we should ask the developer for! I think the focus of the frequent multiple backups is primarily on data, so it's good , but maybe not enough!
I just checked my own backups. I have max backup history of 5 and those 5 backups are done one by one over a two week period (of course). So I have many copies of each app that are identical --except when changes occur. Most apps right now have 5 identical copies, but for 7Zipper, Handnote and Gmail,(for example) each of them has two versions. I won't lose the "older versions" of these apps for a week or so, but after that they will disappear if I want ot save those older versions, well, I would have to take one of the measures that I mentioned before (copying over to another directory etc.)
I was going to ask -since you turned off auto updates-- how the app got updated, but I have discovered that even when I do that there is the occassional app that updates anyway -because I inadvertently said yes to some prompt, or perhaps the author had some auto update feature that I could not block. . .
Sorry I can't give you a better solution. . .
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It sounds like you get my point now! Basically, TiBu should be smart enough to backup data and app apks as separate items. When I say keep 3 copies, it should look at those separately...keep the 3 last APK versions and keep the 3 last data backups...not combine them and overwrite APK versions just because data got updated too.
What happened was I updated the app two weeks ago and everything was fine...I then switched to Goldeneye 4.0 ROM and the WatchESPN app wouldn't load anymore. I read other people in the Play Store had the same problem...so I am guessing that perhaps it's an international firmware issue...since it still works fine when I switch back to AT&T stock MDL. The second data is that some of those complaining in the Play Store reviews are saying "since the last update, it doesn't load"...so I'm thinking maybe the latest update broke something for international firmware versions...so if I can find the old version that might work...but no way to test it without getting the APK.

Ok, you are right about the apps vs. Data thing exactly for the reasons you mention!
(Btw, I almost decided to try golden eye this weekend, but Shostock2.1 is running so well that I'll just use my phone for a while)..
I did a very quick look at some alternate android app stores on my phone just now, but am surprised that I have not found the watch-espn app...
The only other thing might be if you kept a copy of your sd card on your computer, and that copy might have an old nandroid with the app... that worked for me - when I wanted to restore and use flex t9 and the company had moved on to a swype version I did not like as much...
Good luck (I'll continue to scan for old versions of watchespn when I get on a desktop..)
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markbc01 said:
Ok, you are right about the apps vs. Data thing exactly for the reasons you mention!
(Btw, I almost decided to try golden eye this weekend, but Shostock2.1 is running so well that I'll just use my phone for a while)..
I did a very quick look at some alternate android app stores on my phone just now, but am surprised that I have not found the watch-espn app...
The only other thing might be if you kept a copy of your sd card on your computer, and that copy might have an old nandroid with the app... that worked for me - when I wanted to restore and use flex t9 and the company had moved on to a swype version I did not like as much...
Good luck (I'll continue to scan for old versions of watchespn when I get on a desktop..)
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Thanks! If I hadn't used all 8 of my thanks clicks for the day I'd give you one. First thing tomorrow though!
If you find any leads let me know in my WatchESPN request thread (linked above). It needs to be bumped anyways and I am not supposed to bump it until 24 hours! lol

I'm still surprised I can't find any other threads/discussion about this issue.
I'd really think that one of the priorities of the backup is to keep old apk versions in case you want to roll back...

bump!

So I realized today that TiBu doesn't actually keep multiple copies of the same APK - it is smart enough to know they're the same and save space by only keeping one, no matter how many data backups you have.
However, if you have multiple versions of the APK, it will keep both versions...until the data that was backed up at the same time as the old APK version gets deleted...then the old APK version will be deleted as well.
I sent a support email to the dev of TiBu asking this question...will post here if I get a response.

Thanks, I've used TIBU as long as I have had android phones and still didn't realize that version saving was missing -or that TIBU saves only one copy of each version. It's such s good app..I bet the author will reply and may add that extra functionality...
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markbc01 said:
Thanks, I've used TIBU as long as I have had android phones and still didn't realize that version saving was missing -or that TIBU saves only one copy of each version. It's such s good app..I bet the author will reply and may add that extra functionality...
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I hope so.
Almost 5 days since I emailed them and no response yet.

an idea is to make a special backup to google drive or box or drop box and save a backup there with the configuration you like and leave it there. . .sort of as a safe haven for when the devs update the apps in a way that doesn't do good things for your phone!
not a perfect solution, but at least it does push the app(s) somewhere out of the way in an automated manner. . .
:silly:

markbc01 said:
an idea is to make a special backup to google drive or box or drop box and save a backup there with the configuration you like and leave it there. . .sort of as a safe haven for when the devs update the apps in a way that doesn't do good things for your phone!
not a perfect solution, but at least it does push the app(s) somewhere out of the way in an automated manner. . .
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Yeah but there's no "configuration I like". You never know when you're going to update an app and find out later that you want to roll back...

Any update to this Issue?
Could this have Something to do with this option?:
Batch Mode Settings:
Min age (days) For refresh,

Ttianium backup misbehaving

OK I just remembered why I don't change roms often, cos its a total pain in the A%%%%
I did a backup of apps and data in Titanuim, tried a few roms and have decided to settle on CM 10.2. But now Titanium is stubbernly refusing to see my backup. I can see the files in File Manager in /sdcard/TitaniumBackup. And in Titanium, when I go to preferences - backup folder location, I can see everything listed in there too (all the apks are there from my previous rom). But in the batch actions screen, I have a zero next to all the restore options.
Whats going on? Has anyone seen this problem before?

You need to change the backup directory to legacy
Like : storage/emulated/legacy/titanium.......
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Thanks for the suggestion, that is one thing I hadn't tried. Unfortunately it did not make any difference.

st0kes said:
Thanks for the suggestion, that is one thing I hadn't tried. Unfortunately it did not make any difference.
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Go to Terminal Emulator doing the following:
su
busybox chown -R 1023.1023 /data/media/*
Wala now its fix and I can make a thread which should hopefully stop people from being negative to Titanium Backup.
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Again thanks for the suggestion, but that didn't fix it either. I suspect you are on the right lines though, and this is some kind of permissions issue introduced with the new security features in android 4.3.
I think I'll go back to cm 10.1 and see if I can restore on there.
I was not being negative to titanium back up btw, my original post was very neutral. I've always liked TB and paid for pro a long time ago.

ok back on cm 10.1 and the problem still exists!

I am using /storage/sdcard0/TitaniumBackup. TB asked to move my files to this location and after accepting it, I have had no problems since. TB also alerted me that my Android id had changed and asked to change it back, which I also accepted. You could try going into the TB settings and under Manage Android ID, see if you have a previous id available thru Restore Android id from a backup.
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So I know the actual location of our emulated sdcard is /data/media/0/
But then there are so many symlink locations like /sdcard, /mnt/sdcard/, /storage/sdcard0/, /storage/emulated/legacy/
So from now on 4.3+ what is the Google devs "best" or preferred location to use when saving to our virtual sdcard.. /sdcard, /mnt/sdcard/, /storage/sdcard0/, /storage/emulated/legacy/ any ideas?

Xperia |Backup and Restore| Solution to Backup and Restore across Android Versions.

Im sharing my solution that has plagued many Sony Xperia users.
Okay I had a problem with restoring my back up after updating from 4.4 to 5.0.2.
After hours of searching and googling for a solution I thought of a trick that Finally worked.
It's a bit of a loophole really. Just Edit the android version in the buildprop to the one that ypu had prior to the update.
All you need is
1.Xperia smartphone (obviously)
2.Previous back up and Restore file
3.Have Root Access
4.A buildprop editor using Notepad + or any app
I used this app http//forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479703
After you edit the android version and reboot The Back and Restore App should recognize your backup file.
Hit Thanks if I helped ☺☺☺

Actually this is what i also looking for. This is very helpful. But need more instructions. Simply describe the way to do. And the link is not working too.

iamkani said:
Actually this is what i also looking for. This is very helpful. But need more instructions. Simply describe the way to do. And the link is not working too.
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He is telling to edit the android version number in build.prop simply, and then use the Xperia backup tool to restore.
I use titanium backup, I love it

langeveld024 said:
He is telling to edit the android version number in build.prop simply, and then use the Xperia backup tool to restore.
I use titanium backup, I love it
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I like Titanium also, but I think the key here is 'across versions'. Titanium can get sketchy if you try to apply a backup to a different ROM or version, (at least for me).

levone1 said:
I like Titanium also, but I think the key here is 'across versions'. Titanium can get sketchy if you try to apply a backup to a different ROM or version, (at least for me).
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Do you use it from playstore? (donation)
Or a cracked version?
Btw, apps can get corrupted between android versions, the official Sony backup tool does have a restriction for a reason.
By editing build.prop, allowing the app to restore apps from different android versions, u pass this but you'll probably get the same errors as with a non-legit version of titanium.

langeveld024 said:
Do you use it from playstore? (donation)
Or a cracked version?
Btw, apps can get corrupted between android versions, the official Sony backup tool does have a restriction for a reason.
By editing build.prop, allowing the app to restore apps from different android versions, u pass this but you'll probably get the same errors as with a non-legit version of titanium.
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Legit Titanium. My problems may have been the result of attempting things that would be obvious bad ideas to someone who knows what they're doing. I don't remember exactly what situations I got problems with, I just remember a couple of times getting FCs and other error messages after a Titanium restore. I have no bad feelings toward the app. I still use it and love it, I just try to keep my backups specific to their ROM and version, to avoid the same problems. I would guess app data would be pretty safe across the board, but maybe it's just when you get into the system stuff.

I used carbon app to transfer app data from 5.0.2 to 5.1.1., but it was Between different phone. Zr to Z2
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