S Health - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I am wondering if anyone knows what system apps S Health is dependent on?
I know it's dependent on the sensor app, but I can't figure out any others. I have deleted some of the Samsung bloat, clearly one it calls to....it is unable to open.
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Android checkin service - 70-80% of cpu

Hey guys,
So the other day I rebooted my blade, and it was running painfully slow. I rebooted again and again to no avail, so downloaded a cpu meter.
The results from this were that android/checkin service is using a drastic (70-80%) of the cpu when this is happening.
I launched a terminal, killed the process, the phone rebooted and it was fine.
Now the problem is, if i reboot my phone again it goes back into slow mode, with the checkin service using the cpu.
Anybody know anything about this process?
Im running stock rom, unlocked, rooted, uninstalled bloatware, using go launcher, custom lockscreen and custom font.
Thanks in advance
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Sounds like an app failing to sync data. Try betterbatterystats - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 it might help you to find out which app.
Wow really? One app failing to sync uses that much? Wow. Hmm i'll give that a try. Is that syncing with market updates? Or just general sync?
Thanks for the reply, hope it isnt an app i use a lot :S
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A badly written app misbehaving could. If you find out what it is then you can try changing whatever app settings might be causing it, removing app data, or uninstalling the app. Better battery stats should give more information on what app it is, i think android checkin could be any app that syncs data. either that, or it's some kind of location checkin thing, have you used lattitude at all? it could be that.
Unfortunately betterbatterystats isn't free in the market, and the dow load links in the post arn't compatible :-/
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So according to astro's process manager it's 'system_server'.
Does that shed any light on it?
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okay so i think i've solved it by turning off location services.
It might be because foursquare recently added assisted gps.
So, looking around the internet, this problem stems back to when google latitude and other location services were created. Something along the lines of multiple location requests kills the device.
If thats the case, then why is it still affecting phones today? I'll let you know if it has properly fixed it though.
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It could be foursquare or latitude, maybe the combination of both. My money would be on latitude, if you've ever set it up, it seems to be quite badly made & i don't think many people use it, but google insist on bundling it with google maps. Maybe you can turn it off if you open the app & press menu, I never joined, so I'm not sure.
Turning off location services will affect apps that you might want to use, like maps & navigation.
Well I don't have latitude on mine, it may have been installed but i removed it when i was clearing bloatware. Havent had a problem since turning off location services, perhaps forsquare uses the same buggy api as latitude? I dont need location services much anyway, and as long as i turn it off before a restart it should be okay
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And it's done it again, even with location services disable... :-/
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If you don't want location services then why do you have foursquare installed?
I did want them enabled, but I thought it had solved the problem, which evidently it hasn't. Uninstalled it for good measure and it still did it, so no idea what it could be now.
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[Q] Samsung apps offering updates for apps that aren't installed

Hi there,
I have a question about the Samsung Galaxy S5 which I wonder if anyone else has noticed...
Basically I got a message from Samsung Apps store telling me that I have updates available for some preinstalled/built-in apps. These are:
* S Note
* Optical Reader
* S Translator
* Scrapbook
However here is the interesting part. These applications are not installed on my phone! At least they don't seem like they are. For instance, they are not under the Apps menu and they don't show under Application Manager -> All.
Moreover, if I update Scrapbook then (and only then) the app is shown under the Application Manager. What is even more interesting is that if I click on the application under Application Manager, it then gives me the option to uninstall the application, instead of the option to uninstall updates which is what I really get with built-in apps such as Gmail, S Health, etc.
So if I uninstall Scrapbook after I installed it (agian, the available option is to uninstall the entire app - ot the updates as if it was a built-in app), the app disappears from my phone (as expected), and then it shows back as an available update for a preinstalled/built-in app! How weird is that?!
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Try opening Samsung Apps, then select the option Purchased under Settings. There under Updates I can see the apps available for updates with in fact does not exist in my Android phone. I wonder if anyone else can replicate this issue?
I thought those were all installed previously, maybe I don't remember but it's not such an bad thing. They want you to try their apps to get their experience. It's understandable considering they include their own app store and some apps preinstalled.
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I have the same issue. I put it down to Samsung poor wording. It's a little annoying but I can live with it.
Paulenski said:
I thought those were all installed previously, maybe I don't remember but it's not such an bad thing. They want you to try their apps to get their experience. It's understandable considering they include their own app store and some apps preinstalled.
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Actually they are NOT all installed previously, and the issue is that Samsung Store keeps bugging me to update them when in fact I don't want to install them. So this is not understandable at all...
Same for me, today I disabled auto updates amd notifications in the Samsung app
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Same for me, today I disabled auto updates amd notifications in the Samsung app
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Hah. in fact it just added two more apps under the "updates" tab. Samsung AllShare Cast Dongle S/W Update and NNL Fingerprint Passport.
VERY ANNOYING But I did what you suggested and disabled the auto updates.
I keep getting this happen to me too.
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i wonder if it is because the apks are installed, but not activated at a system level....
i bet you the "bloat" is built into the stock ROM somehow....maybe that's why it is recognizing it as "update" rather than "install"
I find this annoying as well. My phone belongs to the company so I don't want to root it until there's a workaround for knox so I disabled or stopped a lot of Samsung apps. I'm still getting updates for them. I went on their support website and complained. I got a response. (A lame response, but at least a response.) I also complained to the Samsung app store. Complaining here is guaranteed to not make any difference. Complaining to Samsung might eventually make a difference if enough people do it.
I just disabled the Samsung store app since I could care less about Samsung's crummy store and their apps.
Same here - I went through and "updated" all of them before realising that they weren't even installed so I uninstalled them. Some of the apps were ones that were installed as standard on the S4 - so I'm guessing that they're apps that Samsung recommend you install.
Either way, it means that any *real* updates for apps that are only in the Samsung store rather than in Play won't happen now as I've disabled Samsung updates. Well done Samsung.

Doze Now Available for Devices on Lollipop

Found this article on Phone Arena Doze. Someone has mimic'd the code of Doze from Marshmallow and made it available in a stand alone app in the Play Store. It creates a VPN when your screen is off, and limits background processes' access to data and whatnot, thus limiting wakelocks(at least that is what's advertised) It seems to be working well for me thus far, but I will update with results after I get a full day's use of Doze to see if it has saved me idle battery drain. It may help you too!
My T-Mobile Note 5 received an OTA update that added a feature called "app optimization" which mimics doze.
App optimization came with the Note 5 from day one as far as I know. I got the update on my S6 well before I bought the note 5.
Does anyone know if App Optimization interferes with notifications from apps like whatsapp, telegram, wickr, and signal?
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App optimization came with the Note 5 from day one as far as I know. I got the update on my S6 well before I bought the note 5.
Does anyone know if App Optimization interferes with notifications from apps like whatsapp, telegram, wickr, and signal?
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Well it says does before you optimization starts so I'm guess yes.. If you don't use the app for a variety of days
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I had to drop Marshmallow from my Nexus 6 because my alarms stopped going off and I kept missing my meds... Doze has issues.
ozaghloul said:
App optimization came with the Note 5 from day one as far as I know. I got the update on my S6 well before I bought the note 5.
Does anyone know if App Optimization interferes with notifications from apps like whatsapp, telegram, wickr, and signal?
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Not for the N920T, I got it when it first came out. App optimization was only added on the latest update (COJ5), AOGE, BOH4, BOH6, & COI5 did not have it.
Not sure about those apps but it only works on user installed apps. Would be nice if some can make a mod to add system or preinstalled apps.
Hi,
I have owned a nexus 6p which has doze in it and I must say it is the best feature but what app optimization does is shuts down the application or hibernate the application if it's service(s) is not being used for a certain number of days.
But had some screen issues and having a replacement which had the same issue made me switch to note 5.

Marshmallow 6.0.1 App permission (waking up device)

Hi all,
I have a question regarding the new app permission management in Marshmallow 6.0.1. In Lollipop (5.1.1) we used to have the option to prevent an app from waking up the device or keeping it awake. I used to uncheck that box for Google Play services as this was constantly running and eating up my battery. When I go through the new extended Marshmallow app management, I get several options that i can allow or deny (body sensors, calendars, camera, contacts, location, etc. see attached screenshot). But nowhere can I find the option to prevent the app/service from waking up or keeping the device awake.
Anyone know where I can find this or how to do this in Marshmallow?
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Hi all,
I have a question regarding the new app permission management in Marshmallow 6.0.1. In Lollipop (5.1.1) we used to have the option to prevent an app from waking up the device or keeping it awake. I used to uncheck that box for Google Play services as this was constantly running and eating up my battery. When I go through the new extended Marshmallow app management, I get several options that i can allow or deny (body sensors, calendars, camera, contacts, location, etc. see attached screenshot). But nowhere can I find the option to prevent the app/service from waking up or keeping the device awake.
Anyone know where I can find this or how to do this in Marshmallow?
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Use latest package disabler for preventing apps to awake the phone or updated through Google play
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Use latest package disabler for preventing apps to awake the phone or updated through Google play
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Is that the only way for now?
That's the appropriate way I know
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That's the appropriate way I know
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What I can find in the Play Store is Package Disabler Pro (Samsung). From the description and the screenshots I see you can enable/disable apps/services. I can do that already with Titanium Backup. But I can't disable the Google Play services, I just want to keep them from waking up the device, or keeping it awake while screen is off.
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What I can find in the Play Store is Package Disabler Pro (Samsung). From the description and the screenshots I see you can enable/disable apps/services. I can do that already with Titanium Backup. But I can't disable the Google Play services, I just want to keep them from waking up the device, or keeping it awake while screen is off.
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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TB does what it needs to do for me, as I'm not looking for anything beyond what it can do. Just freeze apps/services I don't use and every once in a while a backup. I just need something good that can prevent an app from waking up device, just like the basic functionality we had in Lollipop in the app management section.
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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You're completely missing his point. He doesn't want to disable google play services, he wants to prevent it from waking up the phone.
Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TB? I hope you're trolling.
OneTruth said:
TB does what it needs to do for me, as I'm not looking for anything beyond what it can do. Just freeze apps/services I don't use and every once in a while a backup. I just need something good that can prevent an app from waking up device, just like the basic functionality we had in Lollipop in the app management section.
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As far as I can tell, the doze feature is supposed to be in charge of preventing wakelocks and keep your phone from staying awake. So Google probably thought that denying the stay awake permission isn't needed anymore. Tbh, it denying 'stay awake' in app permissions in previous builds on android didn't do much for battery life, at least for me. Some things you could try is cleaning google play services data, and deleting google now if you dont use it.
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You're completely missing his point. He doesn't want to disable google play services, he wants to prevent it from waking up the phone.
Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TB? I hope you're trolling.
As far as I can tell, the doze feature is supposed to be in charge of preventing wakelocks and keep your phone from staying awake. So Google probably thought that denying the stay awake permission isn't needed anymore. Tbh, it denying 'stay awake' in app permissions in previous builds on android didn't do much for battery life, at least for me. Some things you could try is cleaning google play services data, and deleting google now if you dont use it.
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You did not understand me either! What I've said is that Package Disabler Pro not only can prevent app from waking up the phone, but can prevent such app from updated by Google play service.
I also maintain that Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TTB in terms of preventing an app from doing anything even operating in the background.
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@Bhavpreet I think for me it did quite the thing. Before I disabled apps/services I didn't need I saw Google Play Services popping up in the battery stats a lot. Once I hit the switch and didn't allow the service to wake up the phone or keep it awake, it disappeared from the battery stats.
Currently, from what I can see in the battery stats, the play service is running 4 things:
- Google Service Framework
- Google Play Services
- Google Backup Transport
- Google Account Manager
I have the backup to cloud enabled for contacts/notes/etc. Which one of the above is safe to freeze without interfering in that process?
@zizon65 Are you talking about freezing/disabling an app? Or only stopping it from waking up the device, but leaving the service/app intact for when you manually open it?
@OneTruth it could be achieved by using xposed for the module appopsxposed though I only tested it under cm13 on another phone
zizon65 said:
You did not understand me either! What I've said is that Package Disabler Pro not only can prevent app from waking up the phone, but can prevent such app from updated by Google play service.
I also maintain that Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TTB in terms of preventing an app from doing anything even operating in the background.
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He does not want to disable it, he just wants to stop it from waking the device. Disabling google play services effectively transforms your device into a dumb phone, whats the point?
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@Bhavpreet I think for me it did quite the thing. Before I disabled apps/services I didn't need I saw Google Play Services popping up in the battery stats a lot. Once I hit the switch and didn't allow the service to wake up the phone or keep it awake, it disappeared from the battery stats.
Currently, from what I can see in the battery stats, the play service is running 4 things:
- Google Service Framework
- Google Play Services
- Google Backup Transport
- Google Account Manager
I have the backup to cloud enabled for contacts/notes/etc. Which one of the above is safe to freeze without interfering in that process?
@zizon65 Are you talking about freezing/disabling an app? Or only stopping it from waking up the device, but leaving the service/app intact for when you manually open it?
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You wont be able to remove any of those 4 services without breaking google play services as a whole afaik. I don't even use google for my backup account, but i still have backup transport eating at my battery. Google Services, on average, uses 1-4% of my battery, usually on the lower end. Like I said, clear its data and cache, give it a restart, and see if that helps. I also recommend turning off auto update in the playstore, and deleting google now data and app and reinstalling it.
Last option, and this will definitely work considering you upgraded, factory reset the device.
Also, PDP disables apps, meaning it completely gets rid of them from your device until theyre enabled again, which is not a solution to your problem.
@Bhavpreet How com this was possible in Lollipop without breaking anything? Everything was running perfectly for me, without Google Play Services ever showing up in the battery stats. So I won't be factory resetting. Clearing cache already did that, no result. Will try out @Zenroid solution.
I think this is doing the trick. Will post back with results after the next full charge.
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@OneTruth it could be achieved by using xposed for the module appopsxposed though I only tested it under cm13 on another phone
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Can't turn off 'ok google'

This has been causing me problems for weeks now.
In the Google settings I have all voice settings turned off but the Google search bar still pops up with 'say ok google' and it still works even on other pages.
It's as though it's completely ignoring the settings and stuck on the from any page setting.
Anyone have any possible ideas for fixes?
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Try to clear data of Google Now if possible.
Otherwise try to uninstall Google Now and re-install the latest version
I've tried both of those as a first step and it still happens.
Really quite annoying as I'm pretty sure it's causing considerable battery drain.
Only thing I can do for now is deny the microphone permission for google now but this also prevents android auto from using voice commands. And it still says it's activated on the search bar
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mine is the same and my wife s5 is the same. so google having problems ever sense they updated.
ecg803 said:
mine is the same and my wife s5 is the same. so google having problems ever sense they updated.
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I'm not sure if it's a google or Samsung issue.
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Kearkan said:
I'm not sure if it's a google or Samsung issue.
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well I unistalled google's update and then it works correctly.
As in uninstalled updates for the Google app?
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yes
Applications manager
Go to settings. Applications, applications manager , google app, permissions and disable microphone and any other permission you dont want it to have.

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