Too much backlight bleed? - Nexus 7 (2013) General

I'm on the fence on whether or not to exchange this device. I would like to hear what you guys and gals think. Aside light bleed, everything else is great. I know that switching devices could result in one being worse if not the same. Here are some sample shots. The darker is @ 30% brightness, the lighter one @ 100%. Thanks.
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onishchuk4 said:
I'm on the fence on whether or not to exchange this device. I would like to hear what you guys and gals think. Aside light bleed, everything else is great. I know that switching devices could result in one being worse if not the same. Here are some sample shots. The darker is @ 30% brightness, the lighter one @ 100%. Thanks.
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On a scale of 1-10, how bothered by this are you? Because if you ask me, dead pixels/dust under screen bother me a heck of a lot more than light bleed, and I only say that since typically, those things will be isolated and impossible to miss once you notice them, versus a general area being a tad brighter than the rest. There's a bit of bleed on mine, but it's thin, and what I mean is that since I use my tablet in portrait mode, the status bar is always there. In any case, the customer is always right, so if you can't deal, return it! Always nice to get second opinions, though

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On a scale of 1-10, how bothered by this are you? Because if you ask me, dead pixels/dust under screen bother me a heck of a lot more than light bleed, and I only say that since typically, those things will be isolated and impossible to miss once you notice them, versus a general area being a tad brighter than the rest. There's a bit of bleed on mine, but it's thin, and what I mean is that since I use my tablet in portrait mode, the status bar is always there. In any case, the customer is always right, so if you can't deal, return it! Always nice to get second opinions, though
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Well I thought about it and decided to get it replaced. Its replacement is a lot better with backlight bleed, its more subtle at the top and doesn't bother me.

Mine has light bleeding at the same spot and I checked a few display units and they all have it at the same area
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nexus is great

Same here. Returning today

^^^ I would too...that's very noticeable. Mine arrives today, hope I dont have to exchange it because of this.
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I think that is a very common issue with these ... mine looks exactly the same.
Might end up swapping a number of them and not find better ?

FormeriPhoney said:
Same here. Returning today
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What is that yellow brown line near the top?
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^^^ I would too...that's very noticeable. Mine arrives today, hope I dont have to exchange it because of this.
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All of them have light bleed near the top
I don't believe the ones who say they have no leak whatsoever. Either they are naive, or have not tested it under proper conditions
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What is that yellow brown line near the top?
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All of them have light bleed near the top
I don't believe the ones who say they have no leak whatsoever. Either they are naive, or have not tested it under proper conditions
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That's the reflection of my note 2 with a cruzerlite case

eyecon82 said:
What is that yellow brown line near the top?
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All of them have light bleed near the top
I don't believe the ones who say they have no leak whatsoever. Either they are naive, or have not tested it under proper conditions
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Wow, I'm hoping this won't bother me too much. (I do recall my OG N7 having some bleed too but didn't looks as bad as the image here) I know the dead pixel would tick me off more though...we'll see when I test tonight. :fingers-crossed:
That line looks like a reflection...lol. ( scratch that it helps to read first)

I see some bleeding from the top only on the brightest setting with a dark wallpaper. 99% of the time I don't notice it.

Pressing near the area makes the light bleed less obvious. Wonder if there's a screw in the that area that isn't tightened properly to minimize the gap for light to bleed through.

How often do you actually have a black background on your tablet other than turning it on? My personal opinion but I would return only in a situation where it impacts everyday use, in which case return it with my blessing.
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eyecon82 said:
What is that yellow brown line near the top?
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All of them have light bleed near the top
I don't believe the ones who say they have no leak whatsoever. Either they are naive, or have not tested it under proper conditions
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Believe or not my Nexus 7 is absolutely perfect and I'm extremely anal about these type of things. I opened box to find the clear wrap completely engulfed in dust and who knows what. My heart dropped until I actually wiped down the screen to find there was no dust underneath. Powered on and found no dead pixels. Then I saw this topic and decided to check for light bleed. On the Google bootscreen like in the pictures above there was no light bleed to be seen. I've also tested via the app drawer on the highest brightness and still none. Didn't get a chance to test with a black wallpaper. I'll even post up a picture sometime when I get off work.

Just picked up mine yesterday, and didn't notice anything until I tried a screen test using just a black colour...of course, I have the same issue, in the exact same spot as everyone else, noticeable at 100% brightness. Strangely, though, I can massage it away...gently pressing on it makes it go away (or, inversely, come back). Due to it being so consistent, it's hard to not think maybe it's a screw, as it's all in the same place, but I'm a bit more leery of taking the back off of this Nexus 7 versus the last one...
I have had several IPS monitors (using to 27" IPS right now, and have used ~6 others this year), some from Asus, Dell, etc. and they all exhibit the same light bleed in a similar fashion...I am crazy picky, to a fault, but seeing people say they have the same issue, in the same spot, on several devices, leads me to believe exchanging it will not help, especially as I have said I can make it go away by massaging the area...
I will state, however, yours does seem particularly bad. Mine is noticeable in the complete darkness (100% darkness), at 100% brightness (I can see it, though, at any brightness in the complete dark). You picture at 100% brightness looks significantly more severe.

Tested mine more thoroughly lol what do you guys think?
Edit: The angle I took the picture at distorts the color a bit, trying to get a head on picture.

jxr94 said:
Tested mine more thoroughly lol what do you guys think?
Edit: The angle I took the picture at distorts the color a bit, trying to get a head on picture.
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Looks fairly similar to mine. Interesting how the bleed at the top (if held in portrait) is in the same place for everyone (that we've seen so far)...

If it bothers you or if you even notice it under normal conditions then I would RMA. If it can only be noticed with a full black screen than who cares..
Mine is coming Friday..I hope I get a good one.
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does not bother me at all. Under normal use you'll never notice that. No dead pixel is very good.

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Red edges to text

is it just me or does the white text on this screen have red sticking out edges. I think I read somewhere about the pentile matrix causing it. Can someone confirm. It's a shame as the screen is great otherwise. Also when you have a white screen, it's got a green line on the left and a red on the right.
Logicalstep
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I can confirm this. I guess it'a downside to amoled screens... Oh well. Nothing is perfect.
None of that for me. Take yours into a store and compare side by side with another to see if yours is faulty.
Actually yes there is a tiny green strip down the left. i hadn't noticed that over the past two weeks!
I guess it is just a downside, but it's a pretty big one considering how samsung bit back at steve jobs fir saying the iphone screen is better. Jobs is right by the way ip4 is much crisper. Strange that none of the reviews would mention about these red things around the text. Every review I've read before buying said this screen was amazing clarity. Ib guess I must have better eyesight than these 40 something tech journalists!
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Really? I mean... REALLY, does this bother you? How close do you guys hold the screen up to your eyes? I notice this easily at 6-8 inches but seriously, when do you EVER need to hold it that close?
I am trying to see the red edge you are taking about from the xda app. The texts on this application are white with black background and vice verser.
Trying as hard as I can I couldn't see them. Are you using any screen protector? Are you sure it is not the diffraction from the protector causing this effect?
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Every review I've read before buying said this screen was amazing clarity.
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Maybe because it does? I don't think there's a review that says the SGS screen is superior to the Iphone 4. They both have their positives and negatives. I looked at the ebooks that come with the SGS and I could easily read them without any problems or strain on the eyes.
People here are so picky. This doesn't work, that doesn't look right, they should have done this instead blah blah blah. I'm I using the same phone? cause I'm enjoying mine.
I can't understand why the hell people are going out of their way in such an amazing way to find stuff like this that NOBODY seems to notice even under heavy use.
No one complained about it in the nexus (nor about the green stripe/red stripe)
Yet, if you look for it- IT'S THERE. LIKE ON EVERY GODDAMN AMOLED SCREEN IN THE MARKET.
*This said, i can't see any red "outlines" on white text.
OP, you're too picky. This is probaly the most perfect non-iPhone screen money could buy now. Enjoy it.
If you look VEEEEEEERY closely, you can find a fair share if impurities in the iPhone screen as well. Mostly poor uniformity of back light dispertion (although a LED screen, it's FRAME led, not local dimming)
And some bleeding in bright shades of red.
Plus, the "blacks" are tinted purple.
All those are tpyical for IPS panels, but if you don't look for them under a magnifying glass (like people are doing here with the SGS), it's very unlikely you'll even notice.
Each technology has it's advantages and disadvantages. Currently all reviews agree unanimously- The SAMOLED screen on the SGS and the iPhone 4 retina display are the two best displays out there, without a definite first place between those two.
Listen I know some of you are quick to say I'm complaining and that I'm being too picky, but I'm only reporting what I noticed to be true on my phone. I posted to see if anyone else could see thee same thing. Not once didi mention I can't live with it, but for me I can see it and I'm suprised that in all the review they haven't mentioned about the red halo around entire text, your telling me that s not a fundamental thing? Come on, fir some people being promised the latest and greatest screen this might turn out to be issue.
Just to be clear, apart v ffrom this and a few small software issues,i love this phone, so please no flaming me for digging at the sgs.
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red halo around the entire text. sounded like you have a defect on your hand. My Galaxy s have no such problem.
This is a problem with the pentile technology they use in the screen, the screen can't display white on each individual pixel, it needs to blend the colours from two pixels together to create white. This can make text quite jagged and make the white bleed slightly at the edges.
I too am a little surprised this wasn't picked up in review (although trusted reviews did pick this up) but I think this raises an important point, you need to make you're own mind up and not just rely on reviews. You wouldn't normally spend this type of money on anything thing else without using it yourself first, and its mainly the impatient ones who couldn't wait long enough to try it themselves first who then have the complaints, that's the risk you take! ps I didn't try it first, too impatient
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tenkom said:
I can confirm this. I guess it'a downside to amoled screens... Oh well. Nothing is perfect.
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It's not a downside to amoled screens, it's a downside to samsung's proprietary pentile matrix. Pentile is not inherent to AMOLED; every other AMOLED manufacturer besides Samsung use normal RGB sub pixels.
Pika007 said:
I can't understand why the hell people are going out of their way in such an amazing way to find stuff like this that NOBODY seems to notice even under heavy use.
No one complained about it in the nexus (nor about the green stripe/red stripe)
Yet, if you look for it- IT'S THERE. LIKE ON EVERY GODDAMN AMOLED SCREEN IN THE MARKET.
*This said, i can't see any red "outlines" on white text.
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Not on the Cowon S9/J3, Zune HD, Sony XE-1, or LG EL9500. I've taken macro pictures of my S9's screen and it is RGB.
Ok, 90% of the amoled screens floating around on the market. happy?
The vast majority of amoled screens use RGBG.
Logicalstep said:
is it just me or does the white text on this screen have red sticking out edges. I think I read somewhere about the pentile matrix causing it. Can someone confirm. It's a shame as the screen is great otherwise. Also when you have a white screen, it's got a green line on the left and a red on the right.
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I used "flashlight" application to look for the green & red lines on a white screen. I thought I might have seen the green line, but I couldn't even be sure to be honest, and there almost definitely wasn't a red line.
I looked at the text a little closer than I previously had and I felt I could see red within white text, however I didn't have a "red sticking out edges" problem. In every day use, and I use the screen primarily for reading internet articles and text messaging, I have never seen the colors within white text.
hmm it odd, f I launch the google home page in the browser, I can definitely see a Green line down the right hand side.
I wonder if my screen as some kind of alignment problem. I donlt even have to look that close to see it, it's a one pixel wide line down the left. and if I look to the bottom and right I see red pixels sticking out from the screen.
I realise that Pentile will make text a little jagged, but should it be this obvious?
I mean the clarity of text on this screen is very jagged compared to my Blackstone, even when I look very closely at that.
Logi
This is the best macro my camera can do at 100% crop.
Try taking the same picture and compare if your screen exhibit unacceptable differences, you may have a defective screen on your hand.
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Logicalstep said:
hmm it odd, f I launch the google home page in the browser, I can definitely see a Green line down the right hand side.
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I can see what you're talking about, for me it's one green line down the left and a fainter red one down the right. But this is only on a white screen and when I look hard for it from about 10cm away - it's no big deal.

Lcd issue? Backlight on, small streaks and spots

So I was watching a youtube video tonight and part of the screen was black and I see these thick, kind of discolored lines, just a shade darker than the color of the backlight. I was like ok, just be the Youtube video, their cam was dirty whatever. Then I thought back a few days ago when I quickly noticed the same thing and put it off as nothing. Well I further researched it and found a completely black image on my sd card and displayed it at full brightness with the lights off and I found an annoying, yet not crutial, defect (maybe defect). It appears as though glue or something is on the underside of the lcd blocking light from coming through. I can barely find it if any light is displayed on the screen, but this dark video just made it seem so prominent. I wonder if anyone else has this issue or if it is infact a defect. I found it by viewing a dark image at medium brightness in a dark room. Putting brightness at 100% does make it a bit more prominent. I mean I could live with it I guess but it is extremely annoying to find something so stupid on such a great new phone. I wonder if it is a common issue and I ask you fellow gs3 owners to take a look at yours and tell me if it is just me. I have attached a photo I took with my dslr. The colors are kind of looking overdone because I had to bump my ISO up to like 6400 to even get a picture of it because it is so dark and I didn't want to run outside to grab the tripod. You should get the idea. The picture makes it look a lot worse than it really is. I have looked at the screen and I see no discolorations when the screen is off and I see nothing of that pattern while the screen is off anywhere on the lcd, but I couldn't find my super bright flashlight. What a day!
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Yeah I notice this in the dark when watching a YouTube video. Its apparently a samoled issue and something I never noticed on samoled + screen on sgs2. Its very common and have seen a few threads about it. The good news is that you only really see it in a pitch black room when using the phone on a dark screen. I've never noticed it durng the day
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Thanks for that. Now I know its not just me. You really settled my nerves, I was about the be pissed. The screen is beautiful beside that. It is just when it is pitch dark and I am looking at something black, otherwise, if there is probably 25% of anything else that is lit on the screen I probably won't see it. I guess I just caught it on one of those rare occasions when I am using my phone in the pitch dark.
Do you happen to know what those threads were called? I am having trouble wording the issue exactly lol
Nooo that is top much. Yes all galaxies have that issue but I think yours is too much. Exchange it i would say
Its just like this, apparently called "ink marks" Last picture in the op here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658601
Tbh I really only notice in landscape and not in portrait and the only ones I see are the ones on the left and the dot on the right if I do see them. I'd hate to take it back to get one with its own unique set of the same marks. Plus I rooted it and I'm not quite sure if the flash counter clicked , damn verizon
Finally I'm not the only one. It only happens with video and it doesn't matter out you play YouTube app browser or videos you have saved. And try recording and the play back is bloody red skill over the place. Best buy associates were freaking out with my old phone. Over had the gs3 replaced 3 times. And third times the charm. When life gives you lemons hope your within the 14 day trail period.
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Oh and no fix apparently according to best buy its a internal defect so hopefully anyone and everyone else has time to exchange.
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I might have gotten the perfect unit.. No ink spots, no tint... AT&T Pebble blue btw.
Randomacts said:
I might have gotten the perfect unit.. No ink spots, no tint... AT&T Pebble blue btw.
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I thought the same thing until a week ago when watching something in the complete dark. For those that think their phone is perfect you'd have to check under the same circumstances to know for sure. A dark room and playing videos. I noticed it especially on netfix. I started a video and before the movie starts it goes to a black screen and thats when I first noticed. I do wonder if its all phones or if only a few of us have this defect
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So I was watching a youtube video tonight and part of the screen was black and I see these thick, kind of discolored lines, just a shade darker than the color of the backlight. I was like ok, just be the Youtube video, their cam was dirty whatever. Then I thought back a few days ago when I quickly noticed the same thing and put it off as nothing. Well I further researched it and found a completely black image on my sd card and displayed it at full brightness with the lights off and I found an annoying, yet not crutial, defect (maybe defect). It appears as though glue or something is on the underside of the lcd blocking light from coming through. I can barely find it if any light is displayed on the screen, but this dark video just made it seem so prominent. I wonder if anyone else has this issue or if it is infact a defect. I found it by viewing a dark image at medium brightness in a dark room. Putting brightness at 100% does make it a bit more prominent. I mean I could live with it I guess but it is extremely annoying to find something so stupid on such a great new phone. I wonder if it is a common issue and I ask you fellow gs3 owners to take a look at yours and tell me if it is just me. I have attached a photo I took with my dslr. The colors are kind of looking overdone because I had to bump my ISO up to like 6400 to even get a picture of it because it is so dark and I didn't want to run outside to grab the tripod. You should get the idea. The picture makes it look a lot worse than it really is. I have looked at the screen and I see no discolorations when the screen is off and I see nothing of that pattern while the screen is off anywhere on the lcd, but I couldn't find my super bright flashlight. What a day!
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This is a defective samoled. While the glue blotches exist in nearly all displays, yours are especially bad. The fact that you can record them and actually see them while playing videos is the deciding factor here.
For example, I can see those too - but only in complete darkness and while the brightness is at max - any kind of video or soft keys wipe out those blemishes. In other words, those blotches should be invisible under any usage conditions. Otherwise, the quality control has passed a lemon, which is clearly your case.
Exchange that phone for a new one.
Like I said, I if there is anything on the screen I can't see it. I have the reason it looks do prominent in the pics is that I boosted iso and it exposed for the baclight. I had to try really really hard to get a picture of what was going on there
yes. i have the exact same problem. thinking of getting it replaced today.
heres what my looked like:
made it in paint
The black ink thing is a common issue but there has to be some extent to which it's too much. I usually don't notice it and I can forget about it but for those times I do, it is quite the let down. I'll probably take it to Sprint this coming week and see what can be done.
My screen...not the best picture but at least it shows the blobs. I could care less about the black marks towards the top of the image. It's just the ones on the bottom that bother me.
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The black ink thing is a common issue but there has to be some extent to which it's too much. I usually don't notice it and I can forget about it but for those times I do, it is quite the let down. I'll probably take it to Sprint this coming week and see what can be done.
My screen...not the best picture but at least it shows the blobs. I could care less about the black marks towards the top of the image. It's just the ones on the bottom that bother me.
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Ahh yours is much like mine. I have tbh, and I tried finding it today during the day and no lights on with brightness maxed and I could not. I think I am going to stop stressing about it as it is only visible in very limited situations. I thank you guys for helping me out with this and really settling my nerves to know I didn't just get a bad one and that it is quite a common issue with different variations.
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Ahh yours is much like mine. I have tbh, and I tried finding it today during the day and no lights on with brightness maxed and I could not. I think I am going to stop stressing about it as it is only visible in very limited situations. I thank you guys for helping me out with this and really settling my nerves to know I didn't just get a bad one and that it is quite a common issue with different variations.
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i have to check mine now but either way if almost all units have it you may return it and get one that is worse

[Q] Note 3 Uneven Screen Color

I know there are a few different threads about various screen concerns, but this one is specific to color distribution. Sorry if this belongs elsewhere.
I attached a picture of the Note 3 screen without any screen protector while on the dark gray color from the LCD Pixel Testing app. Apologies that the uploaded picture isn't rotated properly. The bottom-right has a purplish/pink tint to it and the top-left has a greenish tint. It's not the camera angle/picture because I took another picture of it from the same angle, but upside down and the coloring moved accordingly.
I also took a picture of the Note 2 under the same conditions to make sure that this isn't normal for other screens, and the Note 2's screen was much more consistent. I've experienced uneven color distribution on the Samsung UN46B8000 TV, but not on a mobile device.
Does anyone else have this type of uneven screen color on the Note 3?
Thank you!
Im not sure why is this happening. Im now on my third replacement and every one has this hue or tint in different parts of the screen. Im not sure if its fixable but I gave up on samsung. I just hope it goes away after some time.
Scorbion said:
Im not sure why is this happening. Im now on my third replacement and every one has this hue or tint in different parts of the screen. Im not sure if its fixable but I gave up on samsung. I just hope it goes away after some time.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm going to check out display models and see how the uniformity is. If they are worse than mine, I'll keep mine. Still, I think that Samsung should really work on this. I've compared it to the Note 2 and S3. All have better uniformity than the Note 3, which saddens me as I was really looking forward to this device.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm going to check out display models and see how the uniformity is. If they are worse than mine, I'll keep mine. Still, I think that Samsung should really work on this. I've compared it to the Note 2 and S3. All have better uniformity than the Note 3, which saddens me as I was really looking forward to this device.
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EXACTLY.
The exact same problem with mine, which I described here in my thread.
I've seen worst when I tried to get my second replacement, so I decided to keep mine.
SAMMY whats wrong with your QC????
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EXACTLY.
The exact same problem with mine, which I described here in my thread.
I've seen worst when I tried to get my second replacement, so I decided to keep mine.
SAMMY whats wrong with your QC????
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I spoke to one of the tech guys at my work and he said it could be a power issue. The power source could be coming from the upper-left corner and it gets weaker as it goes across the screen, which could explain the gradient-like change in the display. If the pink is at the bottom-right for all our displays, it could be the explanation.
We looked online for a proper teardown, but we couldn't find one that showed where the screen power originates from. I don't know about this because I'm not sure if full/more power would result in a greenish-blue hue. The only evidence I can think of that supports this is that the Note 2 and S3 were overly greenish-blue in tint over the entire screen.
Does everyone affected have greenish-blue on the top-left that fades into pink on the bottom-right?
just tested mine with the app i got no tint or diffrent hue .. I've tested it on AUTO, Manual low, high brightness settings..
I have these problems since I own AMOLED devices, and that is now for quite some time (see sig.)! Me too had to exchange each device a few times until I got some with a almost perfect screen! On both N9005 I own so far the lower screen side is darker, although there are other significant differences between the two screens: the one of the second device is much more uniform! plus no1 has sharp pitch up in gamma on the leftmost 5mm over the whole side (maybe this screen has been cut out from the edge of the mother-substrate: the more from the center the better, due to principles of metal mask lithography)
I've done a few posts in regard to this in the past, if interested use the search function!
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Another problem I have: When CUP is on medium to heavy load, screen brightness and contrast start to go up and down slightly each few seconds on all brightness levels, even on manual and lowest brightness! this happens on both devices, although here the first one is a little more stable! for me this happens always when in gallery for example, due to CPU load because of media scanning... Seems to be some load or thermal brightness throttling mechanism implemented (guess: in some part of the kernel)...
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mine doesn't have a hue but on really dark colors (like the dark tapatalk theme) the screen color is uneven on the background.
dk_iceman said:
just tested mine with the app i got no tint or diffrent hue .. I've tested it on AUTO, Manual low, high brightness settings..
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I'm happy for you. For me, I gave up and bought LG g2 and I'm so glad I did. I just love this ips screen.
I'm wondering if it's there is edge LED lighting and the screen is just uneven.
My first one was like yours which seems very bad. Took it back got a new one, this one has the issue too, but its not that visible. I wanted to take it back again, but then i saw a guy who took 3 Note 3s back and the last one was the worst. So change it until you find one acceptable and next time wait a bit until Samsung gets better QC, or hope for another player on the phablet market.
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I'm wondering if it's there is edge LED lighting and the screen is just uneven.
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???edge led on an amoled device???
do you know what you are talking about??
amoled is common in that type of tint.. I used all galaxy. Since first galaxy I used.. And now still smiled tech have this tint..
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It's probably not as bad as I make it sound. You can only see it if there isn't any light in the room basically. I took a screen shot of the battery status menu and cropped it to the all "black" part and put a black dot on it. In a totally dark room (doesn't mater what the screen brightness is) see if you can find the dot. It's pretty small you have to zoom in a lot. But using this image I can see the uneven lighting on the screen. If there us ant kind of color displayed though it's totally invisible.
I'm kind of worried about getting one that's worse too. that's what's got me not wanting to deal with it. A lot of them down here have been getting returned to best buy and Verizon because of a signal issue or battery drainage problems.
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???edge led on an amoled device???
do you know what you are talking about??
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Nope. Obviously. ?
So I returned the first one and got another. This one is better but there's a big dark band that goes across the middle. It's not as pronounced as the last one though. -__-
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Try this in a dark room. Using Display Tester app test card Grey #808080 and put the brightness in the screen tester to as low as possible as well as your phones brightness to low as feasibly possible. The check out the lower half near the home button. You will see it being slightly different and darker. Both mine and the wife's do it. Her's possibly a little bit more pronounced than mine. Normal, as I never notice it during day to day or night time viewing. Point being I have to go out of my way to find this so called issue.
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Try this in a dark room. Using Display Tester app test card Grey #808080 and put the brightness in the screen tester to as low as possible as well as your phones brightness to low as feasibly possible. The check out the lower half near the home button. You will see it being slightly different and darker. Both mine and the wife's do it. Her's possibly a little bit more pronounced than mine. Normal, as I never notice it during day to day or night time viewing. Point being I have to go out of my way to find this so called issue.
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I can see that horizontal dark band on my screen. But I can really see that and vertical bands on the 2 I posted. lol.
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LordBhaal said:
My first one was like yours which seems very bad. Took it back got a new one, this one has the issue too, but its not that visible. I wanted to take it back again, but then i saw a guy who took 3 Note 3s back and the last one was the worst. So change it until you find one acceptable and next time wait a bit until Samsung gets better QC, or hope for another player on the phablet market.
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i had same issue i replaced 3 note 3s then in white color there is no tint no screen issue..n checked 6 phones on shop..u r lucky if u get 1 phone with gud screen among ten phones..9 will be faulty and one will be gud....but my shop keeper is a nice guy..but really samsung should fix this issue.
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people will complain about hardware issue after some time..when they will compare note 3 together..
coz i have too much experienced in note 3 replacement.
i had three note 3s n900 and n9005.And checked 6 note 3s...so trust me..some device perform gud some laggy..
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i had same issue i replaced 3 note 3s then in white color there is no tint no screen issue..n checked 6 phones on shop..u r lucky if u get 1 phone with gud screen among ten phones..9 will be faulty and one will be gud....but my shop keeper is a nice guy..but really samsung should fix this issue.
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people will complain about hardware issue after some time..when they will compare note 3 together..
coz i have too much experienced in note 3 replacement.
i had three note 3s n900 and n9005.And checked 6 note 3s...so trust me..some device perform gud some laggy..
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can confirm this! and it was the same on note1, note2, ... on basically all amoled devices i owned from samsung so far!
the "problem" is the manufacturing process of the amoled screens:
they were cut out of a wafer. in the process of exposing the wafer with a light source through a FMM (fine metal mask) the exposure is not evenly distributed over the whole wafer. the more from the middle your screen has been cut out, the better it is! the gradients (down side darker, right side darker, ...) are due to the gradient light exposure of the wafer before cutting!
so it's all luck of the draw: atm i have one (!) decent screen out of 5 devices! the bad thing is: on this device the thermal throttling is comparable worse then on two of the other devices i have, but on these the display is very uneven!
so it seems to be a hard task to get a device where a) the screen is perfect and b) there are none of the other known problems (wobbly button, thermal throttling, noisy camera, ...) present!
thank you samsung!

Display Issues Thread

We can discuss display issues here. Here's my situation:
Let's be clear: MOST display have problems. My iMac I'm posting this from is tinted yellow on the left half and magenta toward the bottom right corner; my Nexus 7 2013 had edge light bleeding; 3 iPad minis retinas had edge yellowing; I returned and exchanged my way through 5 iPhones 5ses and 5 Nexus 5s before I found one without display problems; etc. But these faults are subtle enough that the general population isn't sensitive to them, or else they mostly don't care.
Sure enough, my Note 4 has display issues. I'm not sure if this is Mura Effect stuff or just bad quality control. Check it out below.
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The picture above doesn't do it justice, it's a lot more apparent when you've been using the actual display in real life for awhile. Also disregard the scan lines. But notice about 1/3 of the way from the top, there's a subtle horizontal line where the display below it is more gray, and more yellow above it. And if you divide the display diagonally from the bottom left to the top right, then the left half is tinted yellow compared to the right half, especially toward the upper left corner of the display. And the entire right edge of the display is tinted magenta, which is more apparent toward the bottom right.
Above I used the Note 4's Screen Write ability to document the imperfections as I see them.
Don't get me wrong, the display is nice. But I will likely have to flip through several devices until I end up with a good display. Are you guys noticing some Mura Effect problems, or other problems? Talk about them here.
PROTIP: to see the Mura Effect imperfections on your Note 4 display, grab this image and view it in a pitch black room and manually dim the display to the lowest level.
All I see is someone who is a perfectionist
So far I haven't had a display Issue. I keep at full brightness at all times.
Anyway, I know people are having issues and I am sorry you are too.
I got lucky I guess
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I dont notice this at all on my white note 4. Even if it so faint then the difference is neglible. Its not really worth the trouble going through 10 different devices just to get rid of this effect. But i turned off all lights and its night here so no outside lights and i see nothing at all wrong with my display. i also dont see anything wrong in your images either.
OP def has issues.
I see grey lines on the image that I'm not even sure is an artifact of the display or what you purposely have showing on the screen n I do see the slight greying 1/3 the way down, but again, what do you have displaying on the phone to represent this and how do you know that image itself isn't creating the artifacts, not the display?
No way YOU get that many lemons... either you're too picky or your method of testing is flawed.
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OP def has issues.
I see grey lines on the image that I'm not even sure is an artifact of the display or what you purposely have showing on the screen n I do see the slight greying 1/3 the way down, but again, what do you have displaying on the phone to represent this and how do you know that image itself isn't creating the artifacts, not the display?
No way YOU get that many lemons... either you're too picky or your method of testing is flawed.
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The gray lines are from the camera, I edited the OP to reflect that. The image is just a plain white image, the same one i used to demonstrate display problems with the nexus 5 earlier this year. It's not that i get unlucky, it's that displays usually have problems. The apple store manager let me replace my 5s to get a good one because he acknowledged the edge yellowing and that colors were inconsistent even across the 10 display models. He told me outright that displays are calibrated within certain limits, and every display will appear differently, but that edge yellowing is an actual problem and he could see it after I pointed it out. I can't be blamed that most people aren't bothered by these problems, or that they're too insensitive to notice them. And again, the pictures don't do it justice...we're talking about a display you hold in front of your face live and stare at for hours daily.
On my current Note 4 what i mainly notice is that the gradient, where the yellow tint of the upper left gradually blends into the magenta of the bottom right. For me that's noticeable constantly. I can't make myself not see it, it's pretty apparent despite the image in the OP not showing it off well. As for the horizontal separation between the milky upper 1/3 and the gray lower 2/3, I'm only actually aware of that whenever i scroll, because eyes are made to notice contrast so it becomes apparent whenever my eyes are tracking something as it passes that border.
Nope. Perfect display here.
my problem.... and a big one, i cant stop staring at it. lol
Starting to have buyers remorse, tempted to consider a 6+ if stores dont have stock to exchange this for soon. Its so gross, this is all i see whenever im using my $830 phone with the "best mobile display ever" according to display mate:
Also, not necessarily a problem just something i noticed, this display gets SUPER bright in direct sunlight (its max brightness is only allowed on auto brightness, you cant set it there manually). That makes all colors super washed out, its weird, but so far not a problem. What im writing about here though is something I've never noticed on an lcd displays: whenthe note 4 SAMOLED is at this max brightness because youre viewing it in direct sunlight, if you use your finger to cast a shadow on the display, it makes this really bizarre inverted shadow effect. Try it out, its kinda crazy!
Hey am having tmobile send me new device because of this issue,for me it was really noticeable in landscape mode browsing Web at night once eyes start to adjust to screen brightness, I can see on mine were one side is whiter and the other a greyish purple hue.
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My note 3 did not have this issue.
It's highly unlikely that you're going to score a unit with absolutely consistent white balance across the display. I haven't had an AMOLED screen that doesn't have it to some degree, and i've had many. Even my Note 4 has it, but it's very difficult to see unless you're really looking for it.
When I first got the S4 a couple years ago I got a unit that was so bad that when looking at the keyboard in landscape it was clearly 2 totally different colors on each side, but I exchanged and got one that was much, much better, but still not completely 100% even. So you might try an exchange if you can, but don't expect absolute perfection. Most displays on most devices will have some degree of imperfection if you look for it, whether it's white balance issues, back-light bleed, uneven brightness etc etc. An AMOLED panel is still likely to give you a better overall experience than a comparable LCD.
As many others have said in this forum, just try not to look too hard at the finest details ("mura" effect for example)...it's still mass produced hardware. If your screen is that noticeable though, exchange it.
I had this problem with my black note 4, my wife has the white one so it was clearly there when put side by side, tmobile said it was ok so i had to take her phone the next time and then they said it was bad. Something interesting, the white ones seem to not have this problem.
Yea got shipping info for new device today,should be here Monday,which ever one has least defect I'm gonna keep.
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I had this problem with my black note 4, my wife has the white one so it was clearly there when put side by side, tmobile said it was ok so i had to take her phone the next time and then they said it was bad. Something interesting, the white ones seem to not have this problem.
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my gf has a white note 4 from vzw .. i have a black note 4 tmo.. the only thing i notice between our devices is that hers has a slight yellow tint but her display is a little brighter.. i have seen this with my old iphone's if i ever had to get a warranty replacement form apple .. the replacements always had a yellow tint but were brighter ..
so far no issues with my note 4 .. i got lucky this time around :good:
Lol.... I think I beat all of you. This happened a few hours ago while I was using Yelp and Google Maps to find breakfast. Needless to say I'm pretty upset right now, but thankfully I have my Note 2 still, so at least I have something to use until T-Mobile helps me out. I'll be going there in a few hours to talk to a rep to request a new unit. Hopefully they don't try and **** me because I bought in via T-Mobile's website versus in store or because I don't have Jump anymore.
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Lol.... I think I beat all of you. This happened a few hours ago while I was using Yelp and Google Maps to find breakfast. Needless to say I'm pretty upset right now, but thankfully I have my Note 2 still, so at least I have something to use until T-Mobile helps me out. I'll be going there in a few hours to talk to a rep to request a new unit. Hopefully they don't try and **** me because I bought in via T-Mobile's website versus in store or because I don't have Jump anymore.
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Wow...That's horrible. .smh
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Lol.... I think I beat all of you. This happened a few hours ago while I was using Yelp and Google Maps to find breakfast. Needless to say I'm pretty upset right now, but thankfully I have my Note 2 still, so at least I have something to use until T-Mobile helps me out. I'll be going there in a few hours to talk to a rep to request a new unit. Hopefully they don't try and **** me because I bought in via T-Mobile's website versus in store or because I don't have Jump anymore.
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Dude is that the way it looks ALL THE time? Dude GO WITH THE WHITE ONE. I know I am I have the charcoal black and seems to be a bigger problem with the black ones than white I went in to the tmobile store and they had a white and black one. The black one was the same as mine (bluish white/warm color) compared to the WHITE note 4 the white looked great. Sure the black seemed brighter but I think that's what hurt the device in the first place. Sending mine in today or tomorrow already set.
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Nick you should save yourself the hassle and just call tmobile customer care. The lady right away told me to send then my phone and as soon as they got the tracking number they will send me a new one. I'm going with the white if I can.
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I exchanged mine 2 times because they had dust under the screen . Too bad I didn't check the screen uniform last time.
Anyway I'm on my 3rd Note 4. I don't have yellow/blue/purple tilted part but the white is not uniform as I can tell the top half of my screen is a little bit dimmer. It's something that an average user wouldn't notice but I do because I'm extremely picky. Anyway my dad's note 3's screen has uniform white so maybe you can score a perfect amoled screen but then maybe you'd end up with another problem like dust or dead pixel.
Sometimes I hate myself for having such good eyes lol
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Starting to have buyers remorse, tempted to consider a 6+ if stores dont have stock to exchange this for soon. Its so gross, this is all i see whenever im using my $830 phone with the "best mobile display ever" according to display mate:
Also, not necessarily a problem just something i noticed, this display gets SUPER bright in direct sunlight (its max brightness is only allowed on auto brightness, you cant set it there manually). That makes all colors super washed out, its weird, but so far not a problem. What im writing about here though is something I've never noticed on an lcd displays: whenthe note 4 SAMOLED is at this max brightness because youre viewing it in direct sunlight, if you use your finger to cast a shadow on the display, it makes this really bizarre inverted shadow effect. Try it out, its kinda crazy!
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My black Note 4 also has some issues with the screen uniformity. My right side has a pink hue as described above. I don't have the yellow tint on the left. Also under direct sunlight the screen creates a strange effect, it looks like the colors are inverted. If you place your hand to create a shadow over the screen then the colors look correct without the inversion, it is a very strange phenomena. I am trying to decide whether to exchange it for a white one or get another black one.
Are the white version somehow better in quality control?
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Starting to have buyers remorse, tempted to consider a 6+ if stores dont have stock to exchange this for soon. Its so gross, this is all i see whenever im using my $830 phone with the "best mobile display ever" according to display mate:
Also, not necessarily a problem just something i noticed, this display gets SUPER bright in direct sunlight (its max brightness is only allowed on auto brightness, you cant set it there manually). That makes all colors super washed out, its weird, but so far not a problem. What im writing about here though is something I've never noticed on an lcd displays: whenthe note 4 SAMOLED is at this max brightness because youre viewing it in direct sunlight, if you use your finger to cast a shadow on the display, it makes this really bizarre inverted shadow effect. Try it out, its kinda crazy!
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Mine was looked like this. And everyone in the BestBuy from where I got this said this is NORMAL. Fortunately I could able to get a replacement from the other BestBuy. The new one is still not perfect (it looks similar to yours), but I can live with it since I don't want to send it for Samsung's Warranty service.
(My local BestBuy said they can exchange the smartphone for only one time. If I have a problem with the replacement, I have to send it back to the manufacturer for repair. I couldn't find this from policy in BestBuy website, but that's what they said to me.)

Galaxy s7 edge white light bleed from top and hottom

Just purchased s7 edge in white and to be fair I am very dissapointed with it. Light is bleeding pretty much all around the screen. It is in white finish and it just looks like the white does not cover anything at all. I understand that amoled should not bleed as ther is no edge backlight but the screen just looks horible when in bit of a dark conditions. White edges on top and bottom are basically lit up as well!
Please see this picture in pitch black on phone. Could it be faulty handset or just a white finish not covering things properly
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And another picture showing the leaks all over on white screen
I can't see what you're talking about. Either way, I don't see how an OLED screen can bleed....
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Did you purchase it on a store? or from someone? cause it might be a fake phone.
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I can't see what you're talking about. Either way, I don't see how an OLED screen can bleed....
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Well it is quite clear on pictures. The white surround of the phone does light up based on the colour of the screen to the extent that majority of white bezel is lit up with white screen on. The rainbow efect on the first pictures could be seen over the bezel itself as well which is very unusual
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Did you purchase it on a store? or from someone? cause it might be a fake phone.
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It was an upgrade from EE UK so defo not a fake.
I am just trying to work out if this is hapenning on all white s7 edges or it is just my phone and I can look for replacement.
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It was an upgrade from EE UK so defo not a fake.
I am just trying to work out if this is hapenning on all white s7 edges or it is just my phone and I can look for replacement.
Thanks
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It happens on all s7 edges. But the white one shows it the most. It isn't really lightbleed all it is that the light from the screen is traveling through the glass.
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It happens on all s7 edges. But the white one shows it the most. It isn't really lightbleed all it is that the light from the screen is traveling through the glass.
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I understand this is happening on sides where the edge is but should not be shown on bezel on top or bottom and side bezels as well.
It doesn't happen on the gold version.
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It doesn't happen on the gold version.
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It happens slightly. I personally have the gold one and if you have you brightness set to full and have something white display you will see the light come out at the edges where the glass meets the metal frame.
Here's a picture of mine. It isn't clear but you get the idea: http://m.imgur.com/7FBGPlX
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I understand this is happening on sides where the edge is but should not be shown on bezel on top or bottom and side bezels as well.
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This problem has been present on all of the white Samsung phones which I have had.
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It happens slightly. I personally have the gold one and if you have you brightness set to full and have something white display you will see the light come out at the edges where the glass meets the metal frame.
Here's a picture of mine. It isn't clear but you get the idea: http://m.imgur.com/7FBGPlX
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This problem has been present on all of the white Samsung phones which I have had.
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Thanks for reply.
I have arranged exchange for another white one tomorrow, so we will see.
For me personally this is dealbreaker. Cannot really believe this was not reported much before for such a favourite device. Having all this gorgeous amoled screen with zero level blacks and you phone lights up like christmas tree in dark is ridiculous. Watched video side by side on my LG flex 2 and this s7 edge in darkness and the edge one is really bad with all the leakage coming from bezel. Magic of amoled is just gone for me. Hope will have better news tomorrow. Worst case scenario will have to go for dark finish one to get results I want.
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Thanks for reply.
I have arranged exchange for another white one tomorrow, so we will see.
For me personally this is dealbreaker. Cannot really believe this was not reported much before for such a favourite device. Having all this gorgeous amoled screen with zero level blacks and you phone lights up like christmas tree in dark is ridiculous. Watched video side by side on my LG flex 2 and this s7 edge in darkness and the edge one is really bad with all the leakage coming from bezel. Magic of amoled is just gone for me. Hope will have better news tomorrow. Worst case scenario will have to go for dark finish one to get results I want.
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The black s7 edge is the best looking one in my opinion. It's the one I was going to go for but the gold one was the only one which was in stock. I'd go for the black one becuase the white one will have the same issue.
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The black s7 edge is the best looking one in my opinion. It's the one I was going to go for but the gold one was the only one which was in stock. I'd go for the black one becuase the white one will have the same issue.
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You were right. Doh.
Received replacement and it is exactly same as the first one. I dont really know what to do. Really like the phone but I just can't get over the issue. I use the phone in dark quite often and black performance is very important for me, unfortunately it is just not good enough with all the leakage.
I am tempted to try the black one to see if issue will go away or possibly wait for Note 7.
I cannot really understand how people can live with this issue. Done more googling and it seems to be quite a common problem even on s6 edge. If that was apple it would be all over the web as another Applegate but Samsung is somehow protected. Weird.
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You were right. Doh.
Received replacement and it is exactly same as the first one. I dont really know what to do. Really like the phone but I just can't get over the issue. I use the phone in dark quite often and black performance is very important for me, unfortunately it is just not good enough with all the leakage.
I am tempted to try the black one to see if issue will go away or possibly wait for Note 7.
I cannot really understand how people can live with this issue. Done more googling and it seems to be quite a common problem even on s6 edge. If that was apple it would be all over the web as another Applegate but Samsung is somehow protected. Weird.
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Try the black s7 edge. The only reason which would warrant the jump to the note 7 is 2 features, the spen and iris scanner. Personally I'd keep the s7 edge because of the bigger battery. I've had every single note up until the note 5 and the spen in my case was just a showing off feature, I rarely used it. Obviously it's still your choice but I'd try the black s7 edge before jumping to the note 7.
I have the white as well , and the light leak is not a big problem for me.You can see it as a feature,like the expensive Philips led TV's with Ambilight..
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klusek said:
I have the white as well , and the light leak is not a big problem for me.You can see it as a feature,like the expensive Philips led TV's with Ambilight..
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Yes. Phillips Ambilight was first thing that came to my mind as well. Unfortunatelly it is not something I want from the phone
Received black one today.
Much better than white. Still some leaking on sides where glass meets metal but bezels covering all the light so thats good. Got mixed feelings about the phone at the moment but will see how it goes. Expected Really good baterry life but it is poor so far. Hope it will improve with few more charges. Camera is excellent. Need to get used to the samsung UI as been with LG for 4 years.

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