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Got myself a new Transformer. Unboxed. Looks gorgeous, but wait... the two bits that make up the wall charger don't seem to, you know, slot in? It's very loose, and when plugged in doesn't do squat all. No charge. Am I being an idiot and not fitting one piece to the other right, or do I go back to the shop to get a replacement? :/
It snaps together, and when I got mine it was a pretty snug fit. So you may have to apply a little force, but it does snap together.
Right, the problem is that however much force I apply, the thing doesn't want to snap in. I've been googling like mad to see if anyone else has this problem and did find this one chap with the same trouble; he ended up having to ask the shop to swap it.
When I got mine it was already together
I had to press with what I would deem as an 'unreasonable' amount of force to get them to snap together. Just FYI.
Lucky you. Sigh.
I've even tried to charge with my Samsung Tab's wall adapter. No goddamn luck. Fail, ASUS, fail.
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Right, the problem is that however much force I apply, the thing doesn't want to snap in. I've been googling like mad to see if anyone else has this problem and did find this one chap with the same trouble; he ended up having to ask the shop to swap it.
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Can you take a pic?
I was going to upload the pics, but I followed advice given in another thread and--using enough force I thought I was about to break them--bent the prongs outward. Voila: it now snaps in and charges. Still a bit of a fail on ASUS for not shipping the two pieces already joined, or better yet make the wall adapter a one-piece affair. Ah well!
This happens to everyone. You really need to FORCE it. There's no particular technique that worked for me, just slide and apply a lot of pressure...you only need to do it once, thankfully.
yeah the amount of force required to put that thing together is insane. after about 5 minutes i grabbed something heavy and just started pounding the thing to death with it until it clicked in lol
That is the one area of the transformer that has disappointed me so far, the charging systems. I didn't understand why the unit wasn't assembled in the box... why I can't charge via usb...and why the cable is so short.
Other than those gripes, I love this thing!!
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This happens to everyone. You really need to FORCE it. There's no particular technique that worked for me, just slide and apply a lot of pressure...you only need to do it once, thankfully.
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*giggles childishly*
nebrando said:
...and why the cable is so short.
Other than those gripes, I love this thing!!
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Seriously the cable length is ridiculous
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Heh, I wedged a coin between the prongs to bend them a bit. Thanks everyone for the suggestions, though.
The Samsung Galaxy Tab's cable is also stupidly short. A trend, I guess?
Mine took some force but it wasnt like i had to stand on a table to make it work.
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Still a bit of a fail on ASUS for not shipping the two pieces already joined, or better yet make the wall adapter a one-piece affair. Ah well!
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I could see pre-joined but not a one piece affair. I like that its modular because that means you could get plug adapters that could make it fit any country you move to. This is how it should be with mobile devices.
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Heh, I wedged a coin between the prongs to bend them a bit. Thanks everyone for the suggestions, though.
The Samsung Galaxy Tab's cable is also stupidly short. A trend, I guess?
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Apparently so is the Iconia's cable. Very strange, as if they expect us to build a little charging stand next to an outlet just for these Android tablets. Somewhat easily solved with a USB 3.0 extension cable, but it's an ugly solution (at least for me, my extension is blue).
not assembled because it's modular and different countries have different adapters. They are wrapped separately and the only variable in the box.
Also, the oem ipad adapter should provide plenty of oomph to charge and comes with a long cord from outlet to charging unit. Again, not as nice and neat as a normal two piece charger and cable, but neither as the add one. Plus, the apple one is modular too and can take a regular one piece like the one on the asus if you don't need the extension cable or if someone comes out with a longer stock cable.
Weird, mine came already assembled from Best Buy.
I do remember my GTablet came with the adapter apart, but that was easy to put together.
Hell I didn't even know it was in 2 peices, got mine yesterday from Newegg and it was already together. Yes the cable length is a joke but I heard about that earlier this week and ordered a 6 ft USB3 cable extension from monoprice for like $4 and it got here today and using it now to charge mine and it's working fine, highly recommended!
Yeah mine was pre-assembled, got mine Monday of this week (and it was brand new stock). Maybe they're doing that on the newer units. I have no idea how I'd ever get it apart if I needed to, I tried and the two pieces are very tightly attached.
The cable... yes the cable is crazy-short. So if you want to use a USB extension, it has to be a USB 3.0 one?
I modified my Galaxy Note to use inductive charging via a palm touchstone / patch.
Just a quick note. Not a whole lot to contribute here, because I largely followed the examples of the Qian Qi. That guy is awesome.
I don't think I voided a warranty, either. Only minimal teardown required (black plastic back, then the speaker section). Never came across a sticker I had to remove....
Useful links:
galaxy s inductive charging mod
evo 4g induction charging mod
galaxy note teardown video
galaxy note teardown pics
Notes:
- Buy a good soldering iron. Weller WESD51, set to 610 deg F, with 1/32" long conical tip, with lots of flux and lots of flux remover are the only reason I could do this. I can't stress enough the value of having good temperature control, knowledge of temperature, and so forth. I stumbled around with an "ordinary" soldering iron for a long time, and in hindsite, I can't believe I did so.
- Do not choke on the price. I already had a lot of soldering gear, and I bought $220 more. Spend the money. It's worth it.
- Watch the curious inventor youtube videos on soldering. This guy. Watch everything, several times. http://store.curiousinventor.com/
- You want 30 gauge wire. It's the only thing that just barely can be crammed in. I used the "Kynar" coated type. Buy at least 2 colors.
- as you look at the phone disassembled, with speaker on the bottom left, the +5 pin on the micro usb (MHL) port is the leftmost. I attached a wire to that, and a ground wire to the housing where the port was soldered.
- routed the wires under the speaker, then back, then into a VERY slight indentation into the battery compartment. used a blue "safe open" tool to help shape the wire / crimp ends. Once in the battery compartment, you're golden. Attach the inductive charging coil to the back of the samsung plastic back, add solder to the pads, and attach the wires.
- Attached is a picture with roughly how I routed wires. Red is +5V, Blue is ground. Be sure and double check if my recollection is right where the indentation is into the battery compartment. (that part is by memory).
- dont leave too much slack. it's really hard to get the samsung black pastic panel back on. Mine very slightly bulges.
- be careful where you put the charging sticky patch, because this phone is a little bit bigger than a palm pre. You have to consider if the phone can sit on the charger and "lock in" with the magnets. If you place it too high, it actually can't (in portrait)!
- Qian Qi had a really interesting point: most articles about how Li-ion batteries behave are wrong, and fully discharging the battery drastically reduces the number of cycles you have. So this is actually a very useful mod--whenever you don't use the phone, toss it on the charger.
Thanks for summing it up! Was actually thinking of doing this mod myself. Question: do you have a protective case on your Note? If so - what kind and how badly does it affect the magnetic properties?
No case. Especially because the note is so big, I think it would be unmanageable.
I took the samsung thin plastic back, and placed the Palm PRE (with charging coil still attached) on top of it, on the touchstone -- to figure out proper placement & mark with a pencil. I noticed a buzzing sound, coming from (I think) the induction coil on the palm pre back itself. I suspect if you use a case, this wont work well.
Also, the size/weight/placement of the galaxy note are such that the magnets are just barely strong enough to hold it. One time my phone was near, but off, the charger. I'm not sure if vibration from the phone did that, or my kids
In summary, I'm not sure how well it would work with a case. You might be able to research this on the net; among the 15 or 20 people that have bought a Pre, you might be able to find some info about the effect of a case on inductive charging.
tight squeeze?
im wanting to try this mod i have my touchstone on the way not thank you amazon but it seems like to me that the pad from the pre wouldnt fit under the cover of our phablet =/ could you post pics of the finished product and i think this is the only instance that i have seen someone attempt this with the note and i want to try it i love my note but would love it even more with inductive charging.
I am not the original author but I performed a different Touchstone mod and posted pics here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...1-galaxy-note-touchstone-mod-photo-heavy.html
Hope it helps!
-darren
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Thank you!!!
Thank you so much for your post I have my materials on the way but I hadn't seen a detailed guide for the note other than this one and was worried I would have to solder directly to the usb pins which looked scary lol I did have two questions though would your mod work the same way for the at&t note? Specifically the points where you soldered to the phone and can wireless charging be performed through a case?
Hey, OP here. You may want to hold off just a bit. Mine is exhibiting some issues now. As in, it says "charging" but it doesn't do so wirelessly. The phone will stay "charging" but the battery % never goes up. (It was slow before, but would charge fully over a night).
Charging via USB still works.
It may be something simple; I'm not sure. But I need to crack it open and take a peek, and I haven't had time to do that yet because my phone is functional at the moment.
If nothing has conspicuously changed, there may be something about the design that isn't sustainable. Or maybe my solder joint halfway broke, or one of the wires got smashed enough so that it's partially broken...
I'll write back with my findings. Bug me if I don't
Thanks for the notice I was about to pull the trigger lol tbh I probably shouldn't attempt this I've never done a mod like this before and I'm not exactly a surgeon with a soldering iron lolvthatvbeing being said I'm going to attempt this on an old evo 4g I have before I do surgery on my baby lol plus I'm already familiar with the guts of an evo from screen repairs ill report back with my results
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Success it took some doing but I got it I haven't done the mod on my note yet but I did it on my evo last night and it works its rough I haven't cleaned it up yet but I'll post the pics I got this mod from www.goodandevo.net
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Thank you for this post.
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No prob I just wanted to see if i could do it and if I can do it with little soldering experience I'm sure most could do it I haven't done this mod to my galaxy note though as there is way less room in its a far more complicated mod than the evo because you have to make room for wires in a device samsung made as thin as possible and the way you have to route the wires I feel like the solder joints would just break
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For those who want to try this out but still have warrantee just buy a backcover, a micro usb plug and assemble it according to the directions here.If you need the note just take out the usb plug and the back cover and you're good to go.... Or leave it there.....
For those who don't know what pins to use on the usb plug:
Pin: 1 is 5V+ (red)
Pin: 5 is GND (black)
Works like a charm.......
becosemsaida
Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
pboesboes said:
Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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yes it affects the stylus sometimes it reacts with delay and sometimes it clicks although only hovers over it
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Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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I was not a big stylus user; I can't stand the input lag. I didn't notice a difference, but I always considered the input speed unacceptable. Not sure why there would be any difference, anyway.
My big problem that I've never taken the time to address is that after some time, it's as though I can't pull enough current through the wires to charge. One day I need to crack this open & figure out why.
gr8 n interesting post
wonder how fast can a full charge be completed
regards
strategist99 said:
gr8 n interesting post
wonder how fast can a full charge be completed
regards
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It is slower than normal, but completed in a night. I still have not dismantled my phone to attempt to repair this, but I want to soon
Has anyone noticed that their wireless charging orb is slipping?
The flatter the desk, the less it will slip. That desk is pretty flat. I wanted to keep the charger on another desk which has a slight incline, but after about 3-4 minutes, my Nexus 4 stops charging. And after another couple of minutes, it will actually fall onto the desk (and hopefully not on the floor). I even made sure there was no oils from my skin on the surfaces by cleaning them beforehand.
Pretty frustrating for a $60 charger. They really should have used magnets in this thing.
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Has anyone noticed that their wireless charging orb is slipping?
The flatter the desk, the less it will slip. That desk is pretty flat. I wanted to keep the charger on another desk which has a slight incline, but after about 3-4 minutes, my Nexus 4 stops charging. And after another couple of minutes, it will actually fall onto the desk (and hopefully not on the floor). I even made sure there was no oils from my skin on the surfaces by cleaning them beforehand.
Pretty frustrating for a $60 charger. They really should have used magnets in this thing.
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It has magnets on it....
There has to ALWAYS be someone with a problem with using the product wrong.
Just find a flat desk to put it on.
I dont know how yours is coming off, but mine lifts with the phone off the desk and i have to use two hands to separate it...
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It had magnets on it....
There has to ALWAYS be someone with a problem with using the product wrong.
Just find a flat desk to put it on.
I dont know how yours is coming off, but mine lifts with the phone off the desk and i have to use two hands to separate it...
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That is a flat desk, and it does not have magnets on it or in it.
Not sure why yours is slipping either...I actually find mine to be gripping too tightly
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That is a flat desk, and it does not have magnets on it or in it.
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Then my phone magically sticks to it and lifts a little when i try to take my phone off of it??
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/21791/nexus-4-wireless-charger
It has magnets, just not your typical magnets where you would feel the force pulling you in.
I really dont know what to tell you. Contact Google for another one....because mine holds, no joke.
Hi quentin0,
I have the exact same issue you are having. I got my charger today. I used it at work for about an hour or 2 with no issues then took the charger home and now my phone will not stick to the charger.
After a minute to a minute and a half, the phone is on the night stand no longer charging... (slipped of the charger)
I've had so many issues with my phone which had to be replace 3 times that I am just returning the charger for a refund.
Needless to say that I will never buy LG again nor a "Nexus" branded device.
That's fairly amazing slippage. You should get an Ikea desk with adjustable legs for a special tilt. Is it humid in your location? I wonder what factors cause this because I've tried bumpers and cases and they all stick right on there perfectly.
Had mines on the charger for over an hour with different types of cases (nillkin, official bumper and no case) called phone numerous times and sent messages to see phone. Phone never moved.
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Then my phone magically sticks to it and lifts a little when i try to take my phone off of it??
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/21791/nexus-4-wireless-charger
It has magnets, just not your typical magnets where you would feel the force pulling you in.
I really dont know what to tell you. Contact Google for another one....because mine holds, no joke.
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It does not have magnets. It uses that sticky silicon stuff on the inner ring to grip to the phone.
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It does not have magnets. It uses that sticky silicon stuff on the inner ring to grip to the phone.
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It uses that sticky silicon stuff in conjunction with magnets... that was confirmed by Google itself so get over it.
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It uses that sticky silicon stuff in conjunction with magnets... that was confirmed by Google itself so get over it.
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All of the sites are contradicting each other. Some say it's magnetized (Android Power), some that it's the tacky stuff (Android Central, Droid Life)
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It uses that sticky silicon stuff in conjunction with magnets... that was confirmed by Google itself so get over it.
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Maybe I should take a video of mine which does not stick at all.... There are absolutely no magnet in this and as nbell13 said, the silicon ring is what is supposed to hold the device just like a suction cup would stick to a piece of glass...
Did you just place the phone on the charger? What if you tried pushing the phone into the charger a bit instead of just placing it on there? The ring is rubber which would deform slightly if you have the phone on there and then apply pressure, and that deformation might act as a suction cup which would give you better grip. I don't have the charger so I can't test this, but for anyone who does can you try this and see if it's any harder to remove (indicating a better grip and less slipping) compared to just placing the phone on the charger?
That's really strange. I got mine today and it holds the phone very well on my nightstand. In fact, I was surprised how well. I also have an Energizer wireless charger that I used on the same nightstand and if I don't use a case, the phone slips right off. I suggest returning it for another one.
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That's really strange. I got mine today and it holds the phone very well on my nightstand. In fact, I was surprised how well. I also have an Energizer wireless charger that I used on the same nightstand and if I don't use a case, the phone slips right off. I suggest returning it for another one.
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I have the LG, Energizer, and now the orb. Best bang for the buck, IMO is the LG charger. Looks cleaner but doesn't angle the phone without being creative like using a tablet stand to hold the LG charger and then the phone will just lay on top of it vertically.
However, having the orb, it does look cool on my desk. The footprint of the orb is really small compared to the LG. For now my LG is at home on the nightstand, the poor Energizer is now stowed away for travel and the Orb is sitting on my desk at work. And for the Energizer, a naked Nexus 4 will def slip off because of it's smooth surface. It literally hydroplanes off the charger. And the Energizer is angled downward as well so having a case or even a back protector will be a must when using the Energizer charger.
Does my orb slip? No. Sux that others have that issue. Not sure why.
Mine is also slipping. I think the magnet is not strong enough on my orb
Why are you placing the phone so high on the charger? Of course it will slide down sitting that high up, you should align the wireless charger with the center of the back on the phone where the wireless charging is. Make a video with your phone sideways and centered on the charger I bet it won't slip.
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Why are you placing the phone so high on the charger? Of course it will slide down sitting that high up, you should align the wireless charger with the center of the back on the phone where the wireless charging is. Make a video with your phone sideways and centered on the charger I bet it won't slip.
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I don't understand this either. I will say, mine stick, and doesn't slip, but u don't have to put it on the orb that high. Just tested min, and I can put it on the orb, with the bottom of the phone touching the desk, and it continues to charge. I would think this would stop ur sliding. I would still get urs replaced. Along with being sticky, I can feel a slight pull of magnets on mine... Could this be related to phone hardware revision? mines rev 11. I think I read only 11, and 12 are qi certified? Anyone confirm this?
If the phone is charging there will be a slight magnetic attraction, regardless of whether or not there are magnets in the orb or the nexus. When a device is inductively charged there will be a magnetic force between the two coils.
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I don't understand this either. I will say, mine stick, and doesn't slip, but u don't have to put it on the orb that high. Just tested min, and I can put it on the orb, with the bottom of the phone touching the desk, and it continues to charge. I would think this would stop ur sliding. I would still get urs replaced. Along with being sticky, I can feel a slight pull of magnets on mine... Could this be related to phone hardware revision? mines rev 11. I think I read only 11, and 12 are qi certified? Anyone confirm this?
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uh that's not true. All Nexus 4s are the same. They're not going to make ones with and without wireless charging.
I've been mulling this over, and here is where I'm at so far...
Can we develop a relatively easy / straight forward wireless charging mod for the LG G2, similar to what has been done for the Samsung Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
At first it doesn't seem that likely, as there's not much space behind the cover of the G2, and not being designed to be removable, is relatively hard to get off. Maybe not that hard though. Some looking around here at XDA shows several people who have removed their back covers to rough them up and get rid of the shiny plastic / tendency to collect fingerprints, so it seems taking it off / putting it back on without damaging the phone is quite possible.
The main thing then is finding a coil / receiver setup thin enough that it won't cause bulging or fitment issues, which may not be possible while retaining the "stock" back.
I suspect we may be able to get around this by using a "snap on" style hard case and some padding to maintain the over all look of the phone, effectively mounting the coil in the resulting gap where the back cover once was. This isn't my idea originally -- I've seen several people do this when using exceptionally thick aftermarket cases for the Galaxy S3, where they either removed the stock back of the phone entirely or built the Palm charging coil in to the back of the case The main issue with this sort of setup would be the area around the buttons / camera lens as it would have a space there and likely collect dust and dirt / be more likely to get damaged. If the stock back becomes available (like via ebay, say) relatively cheaply I could see some people buying a spare and modifying it relatively easy to cover this problem area, we're talking about a thin piece of plastic after all.
The only remaining issue would be getting the coil connected, then. I have yet to open the AT&T version or see a picture of one opened (all the pictures I've seen thus far have been the VZW version with the wireless charging built in) but as I understand the AT&T and T-Mobile versions likely don't include the pogo pins used to connect the charging coil for the VZW version, so we'd have to find somewhere else to connect, likely to the charging pins of the USB port as has been done for other wireless charging mods with earlier phones.
All in all this probably won't be a common mod (we're likely in solid "warranty voiding / can't easily be reversed" territory here) but I don't see any definite reason so far why it wouldn't be doable.
Would anyone else (ideally someone with more "involved" hardware modding experience -- I've just done the Palm Touchstone mod in a few Samsung GS3s) like to chime in here? Suggestions?
I love my G2 and I imagine ROM / community support is going to be great since the Nexus 5 is looking to be based off of it, but after only a week or so of ownership I'm really missing just setting the GS3 on the Touchstone at night, and while the USB port seems sturdy enough I don't like risking it every time I charge.
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I've been mulling this over, and here is where I'm at so far...
Can we develop a relatively easy / straight forward wireless charging mod for the LG G2, similar to what has been done for the Samsung Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
At first it doesn't seem that likely, as there's not much space behind the cover of the G2, and not being designed to be removable, is relatively hard to get off. Maybe not that hard though. Some looking around here at XDA shows several people who have removed their back covers to rough them up and get rid of the shiny plastic / tendency to collect fingerprints, so it seems taking it off / putting it back on without damaging the phone is quite possible.
The main thing then is finding a coil / receiver setup thin enough that it won't cause bulging or fitment issues, which may not be possible while retaining the "stock" back.
I suspect we may be able to get around this by using a "snap on" style hard case and some padding to maintain the over all look of the phone, effectively mounting the coil in the resulting gap where the back cover once was. This isn't my idea originally -- I've seen several people do this when using exceptionally thick aftermarket cases for the Galaxy S3, where they either removed the stock back of the phone entirely or built the Palm charging coil in to the back of the case The main issue with this sort of setup would be the area around the buttons / camera lens as it would have a space there and likely collect dust and dirt / be more likely to get damaged. If the stock back becomes available (like via ebay, say) relatively cheaply I could see some people buying a spare and modifying it relatively easy to cover this problem area, we're talking about a thin piece of plastic after all.
The only remaining issue would be getting the coil connected, then. I have yet to open the AT&T version or see a picture of one opened (all the pictures I've seen thus far have been the VZW version with the wireless charging built in) but as I understand the AT&T and T-Mobile versions likely don't include the pogo pins used to connect the charging coil for the VZW version, so we'd have to find somewhere else to connect, likely to the charging pins of the USB port as has been done for other wireless charging mods with earlier phones.
All in all this probably won't be a common mod (we're likely in solid "warranty voiding / can't easily be reversed" territory here) but I don't see any definite reason so far why it wouldn't be doable.
Would anyone else (ideally someone with more "involved" hardware modding experience -- I've just done the Palm Touchstone mod in a few Samsung GS3s) like to chime in here? Suggestions?
I love my G2 and I imagine ROM / community support is going to be great since the Nexus 5 is looking to be based off of it, but after only a week or so of ownership I'm really missing just setting the GS3 on the Touchstone at night, and while the USB port seems sturdy enough I don't like risking it every time I charge.
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I have an Optimus G Pro, but a family member got a G2 as a gift. I have Qi, but they don't (T-Mo version). I'd be interested in helping out; just not sure they'd let me open theirs up. Are you sure it lacks the pogo pins? And, additionally, for Qi, could the patch in the G Pro be potentially helpful?
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more momentum...
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I have an Optimus G Pro, but a family member got a G2 as a gift. I have Qi, but they don't (T-Mo version). I'd be interested in helping out; just not sure they'd let me open theirs up. Are you sure it lacks the pogo pins? And, additionally, for Qi, could the patch in the G Pro be potentially helpful?
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more momentum...
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You can compare the pins in these pictures. Notice the extra 2 contacts by the NFC contacts on the Verizon version.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/17/uhu5a3aj.jpg
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and people complain about android fragmentation.
Here we have the same LG G2 and you get wireless charging on one and not on the others. You have to buy the flip case for them based on your carrier. It's rather retarded if you ask me. They should all have the wireless charging.
Not just an LG thing either.
OP, to you answer your question, this isn't possible. I run an android parts shop and we have torn down a D801, D802 and a VS980. I have a D802 myself and wanted the wireless charging ability. My technician said it wasn't possible, the wireless charging module from the VS980 has no place to connect to on a D80x board.
:crying:
The best solution I think would be to solder the coil straight to the USB charging lines, but if that isn't possible I guess you could connect the coil to a USB plug and then just connect the plug on the USB port and leave it there all the time (you'd only need to remove it when you connect the phone to the PC). You would need to find a rather small USB head (ideally one with a 90 degree angle) so it doesn't get in the way.
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The best solution I think would be to solder the coil straight to the USB charging lines, but if that isn't possible I guess you could connect the coil to a USB plug and then just connect the plug on the USB port and leave it there all the time (you'd only need to remove it when you connect the phone to the PC). You would need to find a rather small USB head (ideally one with a 90 degree angle) so it doesn't get in the way.
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Agreed. Something like: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Type-A-Micro...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item51b4da088d
I actually did this recently to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I used a Note 2 Qi Receiver pad. I took my soldering iron and melted plastic casing away to expose 5V and GND where I soldered 2 beads for connection. I then fitted the Qi Pad over the beads and adjusted for a good connection. Added Double Sided tape and applied my Incipio Feather Case. When I removed the case, the double sided tape kept the Qi Pad on the case, where I permanently installed it.
I have the actual back plate cut in half to keep the camera whole sealed, but the battery and Qi pad is exposed. I basically built myself a Qi Charging Case. Remove the case and replace the back cover with a whole one, and it's gone.
Wireless Charging WAS a requirement for my next phone and luckily only the Verizon variant had it. I saw it as fate.
But conclusion is that just because the internal case doesn't have charging leads available, doesn't mean you can't make it happen. To pour salt in the wound, the Qi Charging works fantastic on the VZW model. I use it every day.
I really hope something comes up with this. I've got the ATT D800 and came from a Nokia Lumia 920 with Qi. I still have the Nokia charger and would LOVE to go back to it. I know some people say it's not important, but those are people who have not tried it yet.
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and people complain about android fragmentation.
Here we have the same LG G2 and you get wireless charging on one and not on the others. You have to buy the flip case for them based on your carrier. It's rather retarded if you ask me. They should all have the wireless charging.
Not just an LG thing either.
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If I have to choose between wireless charging and flawless GPS performance, I'll take the latter.
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nismology said:
If I have to choose between wireless charging and flawless GPS performance, I'll take the latter.
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My Lumia had flawless GPS and Wireless Charging. It can be done. I may break open my G2 and look around a bit...
SuperSport said:
My Lumia had flawless GPS and Wireless Charging. It can be done. I may break open my G2 and look around a bit...
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My post was specific to the G2. There is obviously no causal link between wireless charging tech in general and spotty GPS reception but it seems to be the case here. Anecdotally, it somehow has an affect on the VZW model's ability to acquire and maintain a lock.
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nismology said:
My post was specific to the G2. There is obviously no causal link between wireless charging tech in general and spotty GPS reception but it seems to be the case here. Anecdotally, it somehow has an affect on the VZW model's ability to acquire and maintain a lock.
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I hadn't read that yet. Sounds like they put the charging coil too close to the GPS antenna.
I've just ordered one off eBay: http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=261329370615
They're reasonable cheap so I figured I'd try it out and see how it performs. Not going to solder as of now though
//M
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I have no problem with the GPS on Verizon... Acquire locks very fast as well.
anpan879 said:
You can compare the pins in these pictures. Notice the extra 2 contacts by the NFC contacts on the Verizon version.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/17/uhu5a3aj.jpg
http://www.dgl.ru/FileStorage/ARTIC...L_e1cdd890c4ca25f3b1783144918deb28_(8407).jpg
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My question, though, is what the circuits look like on the back side of the board. It might still have the wiring, just no holes/connector
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Franky_V said:
My question, though, is what the circuits look like on the back side of the board. It might still have the wiring, just no holes/connector
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I can't speak definitively, but from my experience the traces for those connections are on the same side as they're surface mounted.
I suppose not possible then....?
CCJ22 said:
I suppose not possible then....?
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HI8JYFE
I have one now, but I haven't gotten in the charging pad to test it, yet.
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eagerly awaiting this
Guys I want to just make you all aware if you have any of those unofficial magnetic charging cables please be very wary of using them.
I noticed over the course of a week the phone would be sat on the desk and and I had a cable charging through the magnetic port but it would stop charging.
I **** you not the cable literally pulled out the charging port directly away from the phone. Now luckily the port has to 'fin' pins (only glued in by the looks of it) and I was able to push them back in and it would charge...however it certainly was not dust and waterproof anymore!!!
Any way I took it back to Carphone warehouse (told them i was using the DK36 official charger..do not tell them you use a third party one) and they sent it away for repair. I have been told today that they are just swapping it out for a new one which should be back with me next week.
WORD OF WARNING...IM NEVER USING AN UNOFFICIAL CABLE EVER AGAIN!
has this happened to any of you before? I purchased the one that is available from mobilefun.co.uk but I advise you not too as either the port is weak or the magnet on the cable is too strong (it did not feel that way though!!!).
Lets hope it does not happen again! this is the third Z2 I have had now with the new one I get. FML.
It might be the fault of the phone. I have an aftermarket magnetic cable and it works fine! I have had the cable for about 7 months.
your not the first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770301
Teknohtc said:
It might be the fault of the phone. I have an aftermarket magnetic cable and it works fine! I have had the cable for about 7 months.
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Yes maybe. When the thing came out still attached to the cable (heart in mouth!) I noticed there was very little bonding (glue) on the rear of the charging point.
Still Sony have been very very lax in the quality control department, the amount of snags people are having is unreal. Like I said I'm onto the third now, such a shame because I actually love the device, my favourite phone of late, I have the M8, Z1 and got rid of the S5 (hated) but the Z2 is my fav!
Mine also came out this morning, I dont think they have been glued in they just slide into their slots.
Well there was defo glue or some sort of bonding agent on the rear face of mine...just not much!
I'm no phone designer but surely they should have manufactured the port with a lip to prevent it it from being pulled out!?!?
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I have no idea what you talking about.. can you provide your talking with some pictures showing the problem
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Well there was defo glue or some sort of bonding agent on the rear face of mine...just not much!
I'm no phone designer but surely they should have manufactured the port with a lip to prevent it it from being pulled out!?!?
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That's what I would have assumed too, but looking at my Z2's magnetic port, it does look like it's just made to the same size as the hole on the outside!
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That's what I would have assumed too, but looking at my Z2's magnetic port, it does look like it's just made to the same size as the hole on the outside!
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Yep...it literally slots in and out. Awesome feature for when your glue fails on the rear of the port..NOT.
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Just got my replacement from car phone warehouse yesterday. All seems to be in order...no gaps, dodgy drill holes, loose connectors, crap finishing etc...
Time will tell if I have received a good one this time.
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Has your phone experienced any extreme heat, I'm thinking why the glue failed.
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Has your phone experienced any extreme heat, I'm thinking why the glue failed.
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I wouldn't say so. Nothing over normal temps.
I would say that the amount of bond used was miniscule like a circle in the middle of the charging point. Not enough in my opinion as the surface area it covered was too small.
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I see this appears to be common. How bad is this? I am about to get a Z2 with OEM dock but if this is a common thing perhaps I'll reconsider.
mr mystery said:
I see this appears to be common. How bad is this? I am about to get a Z2 with OEM dock but if this is a common thing perhaps I'll reconsider.
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I have been using magnetic charger for two months now. So far it's still intact.
Same here, used magnetic charger seens I bought my Z2 (about 2 month ago) and it works great. Don't have stock desktop charger, bought an adapter cable.
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I'm thinking about buying a magnetic charger, but I'm curious as to how people are disconnecting theirs to cause this issue.
My thoughts on it are if you pull it out horizontally, you are obviously putting strain on it by just pulling it off/out. I would have thought the best way to disconnect would be to basically "peel" it off, so that the magnet disconnects at a 90 degree angle. This would then not put any strain on the glue or whatever is used.
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I have read a few reviews on some different mag cables and a lot of the aftermarket ones tout how strong the magnetic connection is compared to stock. Maybe the OEM cable was not too strong by design. Also wondering what kind of glue it is holding the port in. I just got my Z2 and I like it a lot so far. The mag cable looks like a great convenience which I'll be buying as soon as I decide I'm definitely keeping the phone (I'm commitment-challenged). Got my phone from B&H Photo and it says they are an authorized Sony dealer, but they are on the other side of the US so I really don't wanna have to ship my phone across country and then wait if I have an issue.
Right, well I have the Sony magnetic charger, I sent it back to sony as I thought it was to blame, it was working then stopped.
However when it was returned to me, I went to use it, the charge started and then stopped, so I thought it was the magnetic dock again, took the phone off the magnetic dock and these was a hole where the docking pins should be . Turns out they were on the magnetic dock! come out completely, so put the charger point bar back in the phone, reconnected and yes it charged but again, when I came to undock, phones charger area left on the dock. So it happens with the OEM dock as well.
Looks like a fight with Vodafone to get the phone repaired.
Yet another...
I have the official Sony Dock, so I can rule out it being 'just' due to the after-market docks. I had noticed before I even started using the magnetic dock that the connector was a bit mobile/loose. So much so that, whilst on holiday and shooting around water, I held my thumb over the connector. When, a couple of weeks later, I started to charge through the port, I noticed that it was making connect/disconnect noises as I was putting it onto the dock. I also noticed that it charged more slowly than via the USB port. Eventually (about a week after having read of the problem on these forums), the connector did stay on the charger, when the phone was removed. I have pushed it back in, but it just drops down, when on the charger, disconnecting from the phone. I am quite sure that it is no longer watertight, as there is a thin layer of quite 'spongy' adhesive tape on the back of the separated connector that is no longer adhesive and you can see quite well into the phone, through the connector holes. I believe that it is repairable (and the watertightness restorable) at little cost, given a competent person, who could strip the adhesive and replace it with something similar, but stronger AND put some strong adhesive around the outside of it, before pushing it back in. It's a shame that something so small is affecting so many people's opinion of Sony and marring an, otherwise, very good phone.
I will be attempting to return mine to the UK operator 'Three', this weekend and, if they are unwilling or unable to help, I will be taking to Twitter and other Social Media sites, to raise the profile to a wider audience... Sony are already doing relatively poorly in the mobile phone marketplace (for a company of their size) and they can sweep this under the carpet and try to ignore it, losing a small number of their 'fans', or they can make a big PR exercise. Any decent company would see this as a marketing opportunity - make direct contact with your customers and win their trust, by fixing a problem. It's their choice - act big or act small...