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i have been reading about this 30 dollars extra a month to share my 4g connection with laptop, computer and anything that uses wifi...but my questions is, will i have to pay the 30 to share my 3g connetion since boston will not have 4g until 4th quarter 2010??? i currently have a touch pro 2 stock sprint and run xdi wifi sharing on it and anything can pick it up. since the evo is android, will there be a program that i can run out the box to share my wifi? please elaborate as far as the internet sharing abilities of the phone...
mrjeancw said:
i have been reading about this 30 dollars extra a month to share my 4g connection with laptop, computer and anything that uses wifi...but my questions is, will i have to pay the 30 to share my 3g connetion since boston will not have 4g until 4th quarter 2010??? i currently have a touch pro 2 stock sprint and run xdi wifi sharing on it and anything can pick it up. since the evo is android, will there be a program that i can run out the box to share my wifi? please elaborate as far as the internet sharing abilities of the phone...
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PDANet, and once it is rooted you will have more options...free options.
I certainly wouldnt pay the 30 for wifi hotspot... you can get it for less using other software....but its up to you..ya know
Yeah there are a bunch of options once the Evo is rooted, which hopefully will come soon before most people have a chance at it (this is why i think Google gave them out at the developer conference). But the $30 a month is not worth it. wait then root it and have it for free.
i've played with it in google i/o and u can enable tethering even on 3g, now the wifi was so freaking congested there i didn't get the chance to try connecting to it, but chances are good that it works
Dorick said:
i've played with it in google i/o and u can enable tethering even on 3g, now the wifi was so freaking congested there i didn't get the chance to try connecting to it, but chances are good that it works
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wait,
you can enable tethering on 3g off the box? you mean my laptop can connect to the phone via wifi? without the $30 tethering plan?
mrjeancw said:
wait,
you can enable tethering on 3g off the box? you mean my laptop can connect to the phone via wifi? without the $30 tethering plan?
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Still need the $30 plan.
darn it...i guess i will just wait for the phone to be rooted to get a free wifi sharing program. at least the 3g will be unlimited to tether unlike 3g now where they only give you 5gb...(even tho it didnt matter on my touch pro 2 under xda wifi sharing) because it went in as internet usage! lol
I'm more hopeful that once the phone is rooted we will able to use the included wifi hotpsot program without paying the $30.mo. I betcha the hotpost program now sends out something at loin and only ESns with that permission can use it. Every Sprint Windows Mobile and Palm phone I've had in the past could be hacked so that the built in tethering app worked without the need to upgrade my account
isnt the wifi hotspot program the same as allowing other devices to connect to your phone via wifi? is so, when its rooter there will be a program allowing u to do this..unless sprint completely and uterly somehow with alien technology blocked it on teh phone.
isnt the wifi hotspot program the same as allowing other devices to connect to your phone via wifi? is so, when its rooter there will be a program allowing u to do this..unless sprint completely and uterly somehow with alien technology blocked it on teh phone.
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Yes there are other programs but from what I've seen the built in program is truly built into the software including an on/off widget.
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just wait til its rooted, and im sure it will be, then we can use wifi tether program that someone will create for it. oh and just to rub it in, I LIVE IN 4G CITY!!!!!
Anyone try out wifi calling/messaging yet? I just sent an mms and the "G" appeared even though the cell signal is off and it's supposed to be through wifi. It took longer than when I'm on 3G too...
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i think the mms goes through a diff system when get home ill try it
I believe MMS always goes through cellular data.
This is to prevent an exploit of sending free messages over Wi-fi
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I believe MMS always goes through cellular data.
This is to prevent an exploit of sending free messages over Wi-fi
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exactlly what he said lol
Ah great to know thanks
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well since this thread IS called wifi calling... id like to post that it doesnt work for me OR my friend who also lives close to me and got the update...
first let me state that ive tried with root and with out root
im on unlimited everything plan
ive checkd my wifi and it works just fine
i have wpa-psk encryption on my wifi
and i CAN make calls on cellular network
so now thats out there first thing i get is a popup saying do you want to register?
if i click yes then it just closes and sends me to the home screen
i open it again and it says wifi calling: enabling, for like a minute or two then it says connection error W006.15 isp or T-mobile Network Error
any one else get that?
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well since this thread IS called wifi calling... id like to post that it doesnt work for me OR my friend who also lives close to me and got the update...
first let me state that ive tried with root and with out root
im on unlimited everything plan
ive checkd my wifi and it works just fine
i have wpa-psk encryption on my wifi
and i CAN make calls on cellular network
so now thats out there first thing i get is a popup saying do you want to register?
if i click yes then it just closes and sends me to the home screen
i open it again and it says wifi calling: enabling, for like a minute or two then it says connection error W006.15 isp or T-mobile Network Error
any one else get that?
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Something came up for crackberry users that stopped them from using UMA and since WIFI calling hits the same servers as UMA, i.e... they are the same thing, I suspect that your issue might be the same as what they were having. Your ISP's DNS is blocking the service. If you can change your DNS settings to OpenDNS.com and give it another try. This may not fix your issue, but I know it did for a whole lot of crackberry users.
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well since this thread IS called wifi calling... id like to post that it doesnt work for me OR my friend who also lives close to me and got the update...
first let me state that ive tried with root and with out root
im on unlimited everything plan
ive checkd my wifi and it works just fine
i have wpa-psk encryption on my wifi
and i CAN make calls on cellular network
so now thats out there first thing i get is a popup saying do you want to register?
if i click yes then it just closes and sends me to the home screen
i open it again and it says wifi calling: enabling, for like a minute or two then it says connection error W006.15 isp or T-mobile Network Error
any one else get that?
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I get the same error message. Just got off the phone with a tmo rep and she said that there's a signal outage(?) around Atlanta and that's why I can't get ANY cellular connection whatsoever. But I remain skeptical, as my friends on TMO are having no problems and the "outage" just so happened to affect me right after the OTA was installed. My fingers are crossed that everything gets fixed though.
Mines works fine, it depends on what kind of network your on. On my campus it would not work, but when I got to my gf apt it worked perfectly. So check the wifi settings that you haveto make sure there isn't a firewall or something else set up.
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Mine works on my college campus great. I have terrible coverage here. This may be a stupid question but, it only uses minutes when I'm actually calling someone right? Not however long it is enabled? I'm only asking because I'm tired of getting screwed over in ways that I logically shouldn't be.
Yea it only uses minutes when you are calling. Also I don't know what college you go but I go to umiami, so our networks are really strict with regard to using them for gaming or any kind of tethering. So I'm guessing they haven't allowed us access to do that here. But on any other networks like a home network it works perfect.
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I go to Westfield State in MA. I had to get my phone registered on the resnet net work to use the wifi. Can you use wifi at all at school with your phone?
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Crap. I just sorted out my issues with things draining the battery and now Wifi calling is running rampant. It stays running in the foreground even when it is turned off and logcat shows that it is constantly active even when the phone is asleep. Is anyone else seeing anything like this?
well i would like to know why its wifi calling if tmobile still use the mins from your plan thats like stealling it helps tmo they use less data but still charge us for it
Yea genius on their part...even still its not like they're not doing anything. It its still being runs through their network just not through their towers.
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Yea genius on their part...even still its not like they're not doing anything. It its still being runs through their network just not through their towers.
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yea, what he said. Cellular towers are like a gateway to the Tmobile internet. The still pay for all the fiber and backhaul that gets your calls and data where ever it is that you want them to go.
i just updated and i opened up wifi calling and configured it. i dont understand how its wifi calling when it still uses our minutes? whats the point of having it then? what benefit is there to having this app?
Yea we can but we are literally forced to just web browse lol
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T-mobile has had the "charging for minutes via wifi" policy now for YEARS going back to the first Blackberrys that supported UMA. Minutes were deducted unless a customer paid for the @home service per month. You can complain all you want, but if you consider the other carriers and their options---T-Mobile does NOT charge for HSPA+ (4G) access while other carriers do, and some charge even if there isn't 4G in that city just based on the phone! Wifi calling can also prevent you from incurring roaming charges by allowing you to make calls from almost anywhere you can get wifi access a feature that other providers just don't have. T-Mobile gives more minutes for less money, offers more data download than other carriers, and offers some truly awesome features that others just can't compare to.
Although WiFi calling uses up our plans minutes, if we have unlimted weekend minutes, use it on the weekends, is it free or does it take away from the anytime minutes?
I get 4G in Chicago and usually pull high 4s. When I tether to my laptop and test from the laptop, I only get 1 - 1.3 Megs. Can anyone explain this? Thanks in advance?
software bottleneck? maybe app has a transfer data broadband limit... when in tether... phone stays connected to 4% o switches to 3G?
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There are other threads about this, can't tether 4g, it uses mac address to authenticate, it will bump you to 3g when you tether.might say 4g in rare cases but its 3g
coopapi said:
I get 4G in Chicago and usually pull high 4s. When I tether to my laptop and test from the laptop, I only get 1 - 1.3 Megs. Can anyone explain this? Thanks in advance?
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It will depend on how you're tethering. Are you using the built in usb tethering or hotspot? If you are, are you paying for it or using calkulin's fix?
With the native tethering and Calkulin's fix, you won't be able to authenticate for 4g yet, so it will drop back to 3g. When it does, your 4g signal bars will disappear and the 3g icon will reappear. Your 4g radio will go into a bit of a fit and continue scanning and attempting to connect until you turn it off.
If you are using a third party app like Easy Tether, Wireless Tether, PDA Net, Tether, or Barnacle Tether, and your 4g status icon stays up, you are still on 4g, just without a good signal or there is excessive traffic as mentioned earlier.
You can check your actual signal strength buy opening the phone, dialing ##debug# and picking Wimax Engineering from the menu. It will show Rx Pwr, that is your actual signal in db
wait so its impossible to tether at 4g speeds?
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wait so its impossible to tether at 4g speeds?
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You can, I do it every day. Use a market app and you're good to go. I get about 3.5 mbs average were I work. But ony 1.5 mbs at home cause my signal is poop.
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wait so its impossible to tether at 4g speeds?
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not if you're doing it in a way Sprint considers valid. I pay for the tethering plan and use the phone's built-in features, and tether at 4g all the time.
JTNiggle said:
You can, I do it every day. Use a market app and you're good to go. I get about 3.5 mbs average were I work. But ony 1.5 mbs at home cause my signal is poop.
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wireless teether app? The app doesn't seem to work well on 4g. Tried on fresh evo, evio, and some others. The speed just drops to 10-20kb/sec. But with speedtest app on the phone, 4g reaches like 9mb/sec
I've never had that problem. I usually use Easy Tether though, no problems with speed at all. In fact, in back to back speed test ran on my phone first, then on my tethered laptop, the laptop always tests a littler faster.
Hey... This thing makes phone calls too!
I need to use wifi tether then, always used usb and couldnt get 4g to work correctly
This has been an ongoing issue for 'most' people. Some ppl somehow manage to tether at full 4g speed somehow, but myself and most others have tried many different fixes and apps and still only get 1.5-2.5mbit tethering off the 4G (not kickback to 3G) even though we get much faster on the phone. Example, I can get 16mbit on my 4g running speed test.net on my phone, then switch to wifi tether and immediately run speed tests and get no better than 2mbit. I originally thought it was a problem with the WIFI Tether app, but other apps do it too.. I think it may be something with the phones hardware, who knows. ****ty though, I am glad Im not paying for a tether package from Sprint or I would be REALLY pissed.
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This has been an ongoing issue for 'most' people. Some ppl somehow manage to tether at full 4g speed somehow, but myself and most others have tried many different fixes and apps and still only get 1.5-2.5mbit tethering off the 4G (not kickback to 3G) even though we get much faster on the phone. Example, I can get 16mbit on my 4g running speed test.net on my phone, then switch to wifi tether and immediately run speed tests and get no better than 2mbit. I originally thought it was a problem with the WIFI Tether app, but other apps do it too.. I think it may be something with the phones hardware, who knows. ****ty though, I am glad Im not paying for a tether package from Sprint or I would be REALLY pissed.
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16mbit??? pic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYS8Gxvo9f0
wifi calling apk on the link below:
http://www.4shared.com/get/PCd_a-oA/WiFiCalling.html
real or fake? someone tested?
doesnt work... says invalid SIM.
tried with vodafone and tmobile sim but both no success
Works for me, downloaded to sdcard, installed via ASTRO, no problem
AndroidHAX said:
Works for me, downloaded to sdcard, installed via ASTRO, no problem
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the app works.. but the calling not.. says invalid sim at the app. so cant do anything.
can you call via wifi?
but wth do you want to call via wifi?
it costs money too. and extra connection.
why will you use wifi when you can call 24/7 with your sim all day ?
nickislauw said:
the app works.. but the calling not.. says invalid sim at the app. so cant do anything.
can you call via wifi?
but wth do you want to call via wifi?
it costs money too. and extra connection.
why will you use wifi when you can call 24/7 with your sim all day ?
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i just called my house using it, im assuming it called using wifi because it skipped over "Call With Google Voice?" pop up that i set it to do everytime i call. I dont even use all my minutes so i probably wont be all over this app but atleast i have it
AndroidHAX said:
i just called my house using it, im assuming it called using wifi because it skipped over "Call With Google Voice?" pop up that i set it to do everytime i call. I dont even use all my minutes so i probably wont be all over this app but atleast i have it
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wifi calling costs many though?
i read on that app it just costs as much as cellulair data.
so why in earth will people use wifi calling? they can just call without wifi. its called a PLAN
I get invalid sim as well I am on vodafone and not |T-Mobile..
Maybe you could change it to work on Vodafone?
i have tmobile, maybe thats why? might have to do with the APN or something
yay this is good but the thing I see is that if you are calling it may be going to the t-mobile servers ofc if thats the case only t-mobile sims may be able to get unless we edit the apk or spoof our sim but then also im guessing the wifi calling costs so not sure how this would work xD nice though
totally non sense. how can someone call using wifi or whatever internet source you may have to any cellular or telephone number untill you don't have some service provider etc... if this wifi calling is working over the internet, what application is it using?
seems totally fake or irrelavent
This apps works because i put the phone in airplain mode and use wifi only.
If you guys having problem then maybe it your phone. But, my phone is working, be glad that you have wifi calling.
This an oct 22,2008 phone not even the iphone 3g has this feature.
I have t-mobile usa provider phone.
add119 said:
This apps works because i put the phone in airplain mode and use wifi only.
If you guys having problem then maybe it your phone. But, my phone is working, be glad that you have wifi calling.
This an oct 22,2008 phone not even the iphone 3g has this feature.
I have t-mobile usa provider phone.
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i find this hard to believe since when i put mine into airplane mode to test it it said "wifi calling not available in airplane mode". Ive been trying to edit the .apk and see if i can get rid of that but no luck so far, so how are u doing it?
My bad it doesnt do wifi calling on airplane mode my bad. It does wifi calling on wifi though..
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My bad it doesnt do wifi calling on airplane mode my bad. It does do wifi though..
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quite right, you think we can get a workaround?
I dont know im going to buy a new phone because i miss adobe flash content so much. I know this is out of topic but i miss my original droid before it got messed up.
G1 is nice when it was a backup phone in 2010. My main phone in 2008/2009 most of the time, until i sold my cliq. But, now i just want a phone with higher specs.
I try playing gameloft games HD/3D games that isnt working because of processor we have.
This developer now a days is coding their apps to make it work with 3.5 inches and beyond, with higher frame,Power vr ship specs.
I love my g1, but im going to buy either g2 or hd 7.
I think i speak for everyone having an phone for to long loses it power in long run.
And, wifi calling on this app only work with T-mobile sim card and wifi of course.
There is a wifi app.
it was ripped off the G2 and ported to the vibrant, so it is possible.
however its not that good.
it was taken out of most roms on the vibrant because of its buggyness/uslessness.
it drains battery pretty bad even when not running.
it uses minutes even when calling through wifi (the only purpose of the app is to get clear signal in places where there is none for tmobile customers and not to save on minutes)
Its just kinda buggy overall.
hopefully they'll release a cleaner app in the future, but for now its pointless if you get decent signal at home.
Honestly, this apps work fine to me. Im just disappointed that the developer now a days isnt supporting older device by coding the apps to higher specs phone.
Wanted to get an android phone with wifi calling capability for a friend who is currently in Iraq. My budget will not allow me to a buy a g2/mt4g, and a g1 seems like the cheapest option so this is where I began looking. So if I added an extra line on my family plan, grabbed a g1, rooted and installed this app would my friend be able to make calls as long as he has a wifi connection? Can anyone confirm this works without any access to the tmobile network?
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Wanted to get an android phone with wifi calling capability for a friend who is currently in Iraq. My budget will not allow me to a buy a g2/mt4g, and a g1 seems like the cheapest option so this is where I began looking. So if I added an extra line on my family plan, grabbed a g1, rooted and installed this app would my friend be able to make calls as long as he has a wifi connection? Can anyone confirm this works without any access to the tmobile network?
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I'm not sure about on the g1, but on other phones it works, but it still uses t-mobile minutes.
so you can be away from the t-mobile network, but you still need to have a t-mobile plan and minutes.
its basicaly for those who have horrible signal at home, but do have a wifi connection.
I am no longer with AT&T and am wondering if it is possible to use the ATRIX 4g without being subscribed for phone service?
Just want to be able to give to my son so he can play games and surf internet over wifi.
If so, I will search the forum for a how to when I get home unless someone has the link handy and could post.
Thanks.
I don't see why it wouldn't work. It doesn't need to be activated to use. You might get a no sim error, but I don't know how persistent it is.
korsjs said:
I am no longer with AT&T and am wondering if it is possible to use the ATRIX 4g without being subscribed for phone service?
Just want to be able to give to my son so he can play games and surf internet over wifi.
If so, I will search the forum for a how to when I get home unless someone has the link handy and could post.
Thanks.
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You can leave the sim card in the device, just make sure the phone is set to flight mode.
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Agreed put it in airplane mode to save battery. You can still use it to make voip calls via GrooVe IP or a similar app.
I did this with my original droid. The difference is my OG droid is a CDMA phone and the Atrix is GSM.
If you rooted/bootloader unlocked/have a custom rom installed then I think it should be a simple process. If you did not do any of these things before you dropped service you might have issues with activation - but again I dont know how this would work with a GSM phone my experience with with a verizon CDMA phone.
I think odd are good you should be able to get it to work fine. I Use my old droid to listen to podcasts, stream google music, and as an alarm clock.
Just make sure he doesn't try to dial 911, you can still make emergency calls with no SIM installed.
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I did this with my original droid. The difference is my OG droid is a CDMA phone and the Atrix is GSM.
If you rooted/bootloader unlocked/have a custom rom installed then I think it should be a simple process. If you did not do any of these things before you dropped service you might have issues with activation - but again I dont know how this would work with a GSM phone my experience with with a verizon CDMA phone.
I think odd are good you should be able to get it to work fine. I Use my old droid to listen to podcasts, stream google music, and as an alarm clock.
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CDMA or GSM shouldn't make a difference, I play with my old Captivate (GSM, no sim) all the time. Its not like the wifi/Android Market stops working if you dont pay your bill! I assure you, OP, you CAN use your Atrix in the way you described.
Root the phone and freeze the dialer?
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Thanks all for the info. I will be messing around with it later tonight.
Rooting and freezing dialer is excellent idea to prevent kid from accidents.
korsjs said:
Thanks all for the info. I will be messing around with it later tonight.
Rooting and freezing dialer is excellent idea to prevent kid from accidents.
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Keeps us updated! lm curios on what happens when you freeze the installer..
I think airplane mode disables Wi-Fi so you might need to disable the radio for better battery life but keep Wi-Fi enabled for internet access.
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I think airplane mode disables Wi-Fi so you might need to disable the radio for better battery life but keep Wi-Fi enabled for internet access.
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Airplane does disable WiFi if you have it on when you initiate Airplane mode, but then you just turn wifi back on no problem.
Dial *#*#4636#*#* and search the option to turn off the radio ;D
hope it helps
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you can totally bypass the "no SIM inserted" screen on the Atrix using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027994