I get 4G in Chicago and usually pull high 4s. When I tether to my laptop and test from the laptop, I only get 1 - 1.3 Megs. Can anyone explain this? Thanks in advance?
software bottleneck? maybe app has a transfer data broadband limit... when in tether... phone stays connected to 4% o switches to 3G?
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There are other threads about this, can't tether 4g, it uses mac address to authenticate, it will bump you to 3g when you tether.might say 4g in rare cases but its 3g
coopapi said:
I get 4G in Chicago and usually pull high 4s. When I tether to my laptop and test from the laptop, I only get 1 - 1.3 Megs. Can anyone explain this? Thanks in advance?
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It will depend on how you're tethering. Are you using the built in usb tethering or hotspot? If you are, are you paying for it or using calkulin's fix?
With the native tethering and Calkulin's fix, you won't be able to authenticate for 4g yet, so it will drop back to 3g. When it does, your 4g signal bars will disappear and the 3g icon will reappear. Your 4g radio will go into a bit of a fit and continue scanning and attempting to connect until you turn it off.
If you are using a third party app like Easy Tether, Wireless Tether, PDA Net, Tether, or Barnacle Tether, and your 4g status icon stays up, you are still on 4g, just without a good signal or there is excessive traffic as mentioned earlier.
You can check your actual signal strength buy opening the phone, dialing ##debug# and picking Wimax Engineering from the menu. It will show Rx Pwr, that is your actual signal in db
wait so its impossible to tether at 4g speeds?
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wait so its impossible to tether at 4g speeds?
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You can, I do it every day. Use a market app and you're good to go. I get about 3.5 mbs average were I work. But ony 1.5 mbs at home cause my signal is poop.
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wait so its impossible to tether at 4g speeds?
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not if you're doing it in a way Sprint considers valid. I pay for the tethering plan and use the phone's built-in features, and tether at 4g all the time.
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You can, I do it every day. Use a market app and you're good to go. I get about 3.5 mbs average were I work. But ony 1.5 mbs at home cause my signal is poop.
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wireless teether app? The app doesn't seem to work well on 4g. Tried on fresh evo, evio, and some others. The speed just drops to 10-20kb/sec. But with speedtest app on the phone, 4g reaches like 9mb/sec
I've never had that problem. I usually use Easy Tether though, no problems with speed at all. In fact, in back to back speed test ran on my phone first, then on my tethered laptop, the laptop always tests a littler faster.
Hey... This thing makes phone calls too!
I need to use wifi tether then, always used usb and couldnt get 4g to work correctly
This has been an ongoing issue for 'most' people. Some ppl somehow manage to tether at full 4g speed somehow, but myself and most others have tried many different fixes and apps and still only get 1.5-2.5mbit tethering off the 4G (not kickback to 3G) even though we get much faster on the phone. Example, I can get 16mbit on my 4g running speed test.net on my phone, then switch to wifi tether and immediately run speed tests and get no better than 2mbit. I originally thought it was a problem with the WIFI Tether app, but other apps do it too.. I think it may be something with the phones hardware, who knows. ****ty though, I am glad Im not paying for a tether package from Sprint or I would be REALLY pissed.
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This has been an ongoing issue for 'most' people. Some ppl somehow manage to tether at full 4g speed somehow, but myself and most others have tried many different fixes and apps and still only get 1.5-2.5mbit tethering off the 4G (not kickback to 3G) even though we get much faster on the phone. Example, I can get 16mbit on my 4g running speed test.net on my phone, then switch to wifi tether and immediately run speed tests and get no better than 2mbit. I originally thought it was a problem with the WIFI Tether app, but other apps do it too.. I think it may be something with the phones hardware, who knows. ****ty though, I am glad Im not paying for a tether package from Sprint or I would be REALLY pissed.
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i have been reading about this 30 dollars extra a month to share my 4g connection with laptop, computer and anything that uses wifi...but my questions is, will i have to pay the 30 to share my 3g connetion since boston will not have 4g until 4th quarter 2010??? i currently have a touch pro 2 stock sprint and run xdi wifi sharing on it and anything can pick it up. since the evo is android, will there be a program that i can run out the box to share my wifi? please elaborate as far as the internet sharing abilities of the phone...
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i have been reading about this 30 dollars extra a month to share my 4g connection with laptop, computer and anything that uses wifi...but my questions is, will i have to pay the 30 to share my 3g connetion since boston will not have 4g until 4th quarter 2010??? i currently have a touch pro 2 stock sprint and run xdi wifi sharing on it and anything can pick it up. since the evo is android, will there be a program that i can run out the box to share my wifi? please elaborate as far as the internet sharing abilities of the phone...
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PDANet, and once it is rooted you will have more options...free options.
I certainly wouldnt pay the 30 for wifi hotspot... you can get it for less using other software....but its up to you..ya know
Yeah there are a bunch of options once the Evo is rooted, which hopefully will come soon before most people have a chance at it (this is why i think Google gave them out at the developer conference). But the $30 a month is not worth it. wait then root it and have it for free.
i've played with it in google i/o and u can enable tethering even on 3g, now the wifi was so freaking congested there i didn't get the chance to try connecting to it, but chances are good that it works
Dorick said:
i've played with it in google i/o and u can enable tethering even on 3g, now the wifi was so freaking congested there i didn't get the chance to try connecting to it, but chances are good that it works
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wait,
you can enable tethering on 3g off the box? you mean my laptop can connect to the phone via wifi? without the $30 tethering plan?
mrjeancw said:
wait,
you can enable tethering on 3g off the box? you mean my laptop can connect to the phone via wifi? without the $30 tethering plan?
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Still need the $30 plan.
darn it...i guess i will just wait for the phone to be rooted to get a free wifi sharing program. at least the 3g will be unlimited to tether unlike 3g now where they only give you 5gb...(even tho it didnt matter on my touch pro 2 under xda wifi sharing) because it went in as internet usage! lol
I'm more hopeful that once the phone is rooted we will able to use the included wifi hotpsot program without paying the $30.mo. I betcha the hotpost program now sends out something at loin and only ESns with that permission can use it. Every Sprint Windows Mobile and Palm phone I've had in the past could be hacked so that the built in tethering app worked without the need to upgrade my account
isnt the wifi hotspot program the same as allowing other devices to connect to your phone via wifi? is so, when its rooter there will be a program allowing u to do this..unless sprint completely and uterly somehow with alien technology blocked it on teh phone.
isnt the wifi hotspot program the same as allowing other devices to connect to your phone via wifi? is so, when its rooter there will be a program allowing u to do this..unless sprint completely and uterly somehow with alien technology blocked it on teh phone.
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Yes there are other programs but from what I've seen the built in program is truly built into the software including an on/off widget.
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just wait til its rooted, and im sure it will be, then we can use wifi tether program that someone will create for it. oh and just to rub it in, I LIVE IN 4G CITY!!!!!
Howdy everyone. I'm a long time HTC Hero user who upgraded to the Evo today. So far I love it. I'm paying for the extra $29.99 Sprint Hotspot service. I'm actually traveling now, and I've gotten to use it pretty heavily. Also, keep in mind that speeds I discuss below are on the 3G radio. There is no 4G available (yet) in New York. Also, I'm doing the speed tests on the 20th floor in a hotel room, which obviously affects coverage (if I'm on the ground the 3G in NYC is super fast, but up all these floors the reception is a different story).
First of all, I'm pretty sure when you start the Sprint Hotspot, you actually connect to different internet servers. When I first got the phone, they didn't activate the hotspot service on my phone (even though I ordered it with that), and when I started the hotspot it would have an internet connection error about some username and password. It was like "error 67" - and that number stands out to me becuase somehow that was a data error back in my WinMo days .
Anyways, I have a feeling the switching of the servers actually limits your bandwith somehow. If I do a Speedtest.net speed test (on the phone using the speedtest app), I'll get pretty decent (300k/s-500k/s) speeds before starting the hotspot, and then < 5k/s after activating it (aka no usable connection at all).
So I finally broke down, and rooted the phone (using the unrevoked method - I am running the OTA update). I installed Wireless Tether for Root Users Pre14 (which obviously does not change servers when you start it), and I'm noticing about 2x the speed and lower ping times with it.
I ran two tests on my laptop on speedtest.com. I've attached to this post the results of each. The higher numbers are with Wireless Tether.
I'm curious to see what you guys think could be the issue with the Sprint app. Are they limiting the tethering speed? Should I just drop the Sprint service and use Wireless Tether?
I really don't mind paying a little more to Sprint if their Hotspot app works well.
Hmm, I would verify they are on the same server. You might also try changing the server you run the speedtests to and see if that changes things. The only thing I could think of is the way it handles the connections because the Wifi tether is an adhoc connection.
Are you using WPA/2 with Sprint Hotspot?
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Are you using WPA/2 with Sprint Hotspot?
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No. I actually figured that this would increase overhead, so I shut off all encryption.
The thing is, when I turn on the Sprint Hotspot, the internet on the phone itself is really slow. I'm not even talking about what it is on a laptop or something.
I can see this being true. The only thing I want to know concerning the NotSpot and rooting tether is it legal or not. I am only going to use the HotSpot app one in a blue moon so I am not going to ay for it. I am just wondering if it is legal to use the rooted way.
It's not illegal people, it's not that serious.
its not illegal, but the question is what will they do with your plan when they find out... worst case i can see is add the $30 hotspot fee as we already have unlimited data plans
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Howdy everyone. I'm a long time HTC Hero user who upgraded to the Evo today. So far I love it. I'm paying for the extra $29.99 Sprint Hotspot service. I'm actually traveling now, and I've gotten to use it pretty heavily. Also, keep in mind that speeds I discuss below are on the 3G radio. There is no 4G available (yet) in New York. Also, I'm doing the speed tests on the 20th floor in a hotel room, which obviously affects coverage (if I'm on the ground the 3G in NYC is super fast, but up all these floors the reception is a different story).
First of all, I'm pretty sure when you start the Sprint Hotspot, you actually connect to different internet servers. When I first got the phone, they didn't activate the hotspot service on my phone (even though I ordered it with that), and when I started the hotspot it would have an internet connection error about some username and password. It was like "error 67" - and that number stands out to me becuase somehow that was a data error back in my WinMo days .
Anyways, I have a feeling the switching of the servers actually limits your bandwith somehow. If I do a Speedtest.net speed test (on the phone using the speedtest app), I'll get pretty decent (300k/s-500k/s) speeds before starting the hotspot, and then < 5k/s after activating it (aka no usable connection at all).
So I finally broke down, and rooted the phone (using the unrevoked method - I am running the OTA update). I installed Wireless Tether for Root Users Pre14 (which obviously does not change servers when you start it), and I'm noticing about 2x the speed and lower ping times with it.
I ran two tests on my laptop on speedtest.com. I've attached to this post the results of each. The higher numbers are with Wireless Tether.
I'm curious to see what you guys think could be the issue with the Sprint app. Are they limiting the tethering speed? Should I just drop the Sprint service and use Wireless Tether?
I really don't mind paying a little more to Sprint if their Hotspot app works well.
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hmm, you actually got your laptop to connect using unrevoked+ota+wifi tether for rooted phones from the market??? why is it that i cannot get my ipod touch to see my connection...ARGH!!! i hate this! i may just go back to winmo...this is my first android phone. had tp2 and wifi tether worked perfect for it.
Hey everyone,
im new to the android OS. i rooted the phone and today i decided to mess with the sprint hot spot feature. i wasnt prompt any error codes or have any fee agreement pop up. i simply click activate and bamm, wifi. so the question is, would i be charge the $30 since nothing was prompt or is it a sneaky thing sprint do and bill me later? or maybe it was a feature one click root did. thanks for the answer. i tried to search but couldnt find a solid answer.
I'd be careful with that! Might be getting that $30 fee added on as a surprise. If you are rooted, you don't need hotspot, just download Wifi tether from the market. it's free for sure. no surprises!
I also second that, I would stay away from the Orig Sprint Hotspot feature if you are not paying for it. Dont be surprise if you see a $30 charge on the bill, like stated above from jirafabo just root like you did already and use the wifi tether program if you really need some sort of wifi tethering. It operates on the "N" 802.11 network so as long as your laptop can see a "N" network you can connect.
alrighty. by any chance anyone figure out how to make the phone tether over usb by using the option already available once plugged in? i dont have wireless N and just want a one click system.
I don't think wifi tether uses N. It should work with the usual a//b/g channels
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you can try wifi tether and see if you dont broadcast on the "n" network, but when I go over the wifi icon on the laptop the epic is running radio 802.11n adhoc network.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756804 <----now you can install this, it run on the 802.11g radio infrastrucrture mode. This is what I use since my companys laptop will not connect to wifi adhoc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803335 <-----found this for you, it is a kernel what will allow usb tethering if you will like to try.
van48 said:
Hey everyone,
im new to the android OS. i rooted the phone and today i decided to mess with the sprint hot spot feature. i wasnt prompt any error codes or have any fee agreement pop up. i simply click activate and bamm, wifi. so the question is, would i be charge the $30 since nothing was prompt or is it a sneaky thing sprint do and bill me later? or maybe it was a feature one click root did. thanks for the answer. i tried to search but couldnt find a solid answer.
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Did you try using it as a hotspot? Mine starts up without any prompts and I can see if from the computer but I can't get on the internet. I noticed that as soon as I activate the hotspot it kills the 3g signal. I assumed this was Sprints way of protecting it. I didn't think it was a problem on my end.
I have been using mine rooted for a while with the wireless tether app 2.0.9pre5 (i think). I think this is just because of the signal quality i'm getting, but my 3G speeds are only around .5mbps down and .3mbps up (if i'm lucky, lol). Anyone else getting anything faster? I have only been on sprint for a couple months now and prior to that, i had AT&T, which seemed a bit faster. I realize there are differences between the networks, but i would have figured EVDO to be nearly the same speed.
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alrighty. by any chance anyone figure out how to make the phone tether over usb by using the option already available once plugged in? i dont have wireless N and just want a one click system.
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The built in USB tether doesn't work for me (I don't have the PAM/hot spot add on).
But I use Easy Tether for USB tethering. It works fine. Google it.
I'm on basic data plan and not rooted.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756804 <----now you can install this, it run on the 802.11g radio infrastrucrture mode. This is what I use since my companys laptop will not connect to wifi adhoc.
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Okay, just installed this on the MixUp kernel, and it works like a charm.
Wifi Tether is a nice app, but the solution above is hands-down superior and the way to go. Very simple, works in infrastructure mode so it will act as an AP for anything, and is nicely integrated in with the rest of the software through the settings panel.
This is DA BOMB!
One question from a noob, though: I applied this MOD through clockworkrecovery, the same way I flashed the MixUp kernel. This didn't replace the kernel or anything, right? I'm not running a different kernel now, am I?
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One question from a noob, though: I applied this MOD through clockworkrecovery, the same way I flashed the MixUp kernel. This didn't replace the kernel or anything, right? I'm not running a different kernel now, am I?
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No it didn't...recovery flashing = just replacing the files in the zip to the ones in your system...in this case it replaced only the MobileAP.apk and a few other files..and thats it. The kernel should be fine.
I'm in a pretty good area for 4G, so I've been turning it on when I leave the house lately...but recently, I've noticed something odd. While I get pretty good download speeds on speedtest.net, and it downloads files very well, when I go to a website, it won't load the page. The status indicator will go halfway, 3/4 of the way, but then it will hang, and the page will never load. I tested this in an area, last night, where I was getting 8+ Mbps (New Brunswick, NJ), in both Dolphin, and the stock browser, same effect in both. Then I turned off 4G, and the same sites (I tested about 6-7) loaded just fine in 3G. Anyone else notice this fairly annoying quirk?
I'm in Brooklyn and I've experienced the same thing a couple of times. I chalked it up to the 4g roll-out testing in the area.
If it flips to 3G and back to 4G even for a second it can jack up a page. Does reloading help?
When I had my EVO I also found that when I had 4G enabled the GTalk service would only very sporadically make AND hold a connection.
Turn off 4G and reboot the phone and I was able to connect no problem.
I called Sprint a few times on it but the people I spoke with in advanced support didn't have a clue to rather than hope for a fix I decided to return the phone and wait to see how the official rollout went.
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If it flips to 3G and back to 4G even for a second it can jack up a page. Does reloading help?
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No, this isn't a case where it's switching from 4G to anything else. It's only when it's loading a website in a 4G area, with 4G on - and it actually seems to get worse as the 4G signal gets stronger. In my case, it's very repeatable.
I'm going to try deleting the cache, and see if that helps...
It's really not that big a deal, as it downloads any other file type, and does it very well, when in a 4G area, and websites load fine via 3G. It's just a little odd.
Oh, I guess it would be a problem if I wanted to view a website while talking on the phone...
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No, this isn't a case where it's switching from 4G to anything else. It's only when it's loading a website in a 4G area, with 4G on - and it actually seems to get worse as the 4G signal gets stronger. In my case, it's very repeatable.
I'm going to try deleting the cache, and see if that helps...
It's really not that big a deal, as it downloads any other file type, and does it very well, when in a 4G area, and websites load fine via 3G. It's just a little odd.
Oh, I guess it would be a problem if I wanted to view a website while talking on the phone...
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Yeah, I've noticed the same issue. There is no performance gain on loading webpages it seems. I don't really get a chance to tether my pc often on 4G (other than letting files download in the car), so I can't vouch for that, but I do get better web page performance on 3G.
Anybody have any more insight into this issue? In the past I was able to access any site using 4g just fine, but lately, any site that uses flash will load 4/5 of the way and then completely stop. I am not a smart guy and have exhausted basically all of the resources I have. I have tried flashing an older Wimax, tweaking Wimax settings, uninstalling flash updates and nothing has worked. I guess if it really starts to bother me I will give Sprint a call, although it seems like people over here at XDA know just as much if not more about these things...and you guys wont make me unroot to talk about them.
Thanks.
I experienced same thing. I'm guessing it's the network issue(it's just not dependable in my experience), and not even use it for websurfing anymore. I think 3g is plenty for websurfing, and use 4g for tethering.
Go into wireless & Networks and turn off Mobile Network that will turn off 3g completely just use 4g by itself and you wont have to worry about it switching between the 2
Well, for me at least, the situation seems to have resolved itself...the past couple of days, I've been able to go to websites on 4g with no issues whatsoever. And as a bonus, the 4G coverage around my apt (which isn't even an official 4G area yet) is up to about 8Mbps! Nice.
My phone was doing that the other day too, I dont live in a 4g area. It was also going on being connected to wifi. My browser screen was also going black but the phone wasn't sleeping, I flashed another ROM and it was doing the same thing. It hasn't done it over the past few days now. I guess it worked itself out.
In the G2 and Vibrant forums people are complaining of
text messages from TMO telling them to buy the tethering option.
And then 30 seconds later tethering is blocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840423
Several werent even tethering, just downloading large files or movies
and were blocked.
Any Nexus users experience this ?
I have not had any problems with the wifi hostspot myself at all, but I havent been using it very heavily either, only at work for a couple hours several times a week.
I was thinking about getting a G2 to play around with but now I am not sure.
im tethering as i type this. its my main way to get an internet connection at home. havent had any issues. using wireless tether for root users
Not a single problem with tethering.
I've haven't been able to tether with reliable connects but I have been throttled so I hope that's my problem. I'll let you know in 11 days when my bill cycle ends... :-\
Hmm, chances are that this is just cooincidence but when I do a wired tether to my phone I go from full bars of 3G down to Edge, on more than one occasion back to back to back
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I've haven't been able to tether with reliable connects but I have been throttled so I hope that's my problem. I'll let you know in 11 days when my bill cycle ends... :-\
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im throttled too. but theres a way around that works for many. put your phone into 2g(edge) only, let it connect, then put it back into 3g.
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im throttled too. but theres a way around that works for many. put your phone into 2g(edge) only, let it connect, then put it back into 3g.
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will try.. ty ty
Yeah, when I get severly throttled I just pop the phone into Airplane Mode and then out again. Presto... Connection and downloading again!
So far I havn't gotten text messages, but the phone occassionaly hangs at the 'up arrow' situation from time to time. I don't know if the two are related. Posting this on tether.
Been tethering on my Nexus One for the last 2 hours doing homework while listening to slacker radio. No issues here. Except with all this music streaming, I'm worried I might hit my cap and get throttled. xD
I don't remember why but I'm under the impression the nexus is exempt from that tether charge. Maybe because we have had it for free so long? Really its the only thing T-Mobile has on the competition, free tethering on the nexus. If they take that away ill be out the door to better coverage and better phones. And ill take the 4 family members I dragged to T-Mobile with me. You hear me T-Mobile!?!? Don't you god damn dare do it!!!!!
How does telco know that we use tethering? N1 use netfilter/iptables to NAT other connections.
Run this as root in terminal while tethering is enabled .
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# iptables -nvL -t nat
Most probably the connection is throttled if the bandwidth is exceeding threshold for certain period of time.
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Most telcos rely on their own SW on the phone that turns on tethering and sends them message when tethering is activated.
Nexus, being vanilla Android, doesn't have those "extras".
This is pure speculation, but I assumed issues with other devices is because it's not a "built-in" feature. The option is there on the stock Nexus build, right? I don't remember, I only used the stock build for a few days and never used tethering.
i tried the turn airplane mode on and off... and i've tried the 2g/3g switch... but work but only for a short time
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How does telco know that we use tethering? N1 use netfilter/iptables to NAT other connections.
Run this as root in terminal while tethering is enabled .
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# iptables -nvL -t nat
Most probably the connection is throttled if the bandwidth is exceeding threshold for certain period of time.
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what does this do?