Nexus 7 Gen 2 "Phone Capability"? - Nexus 7 (2013) General

Hey guys does or will the new Nexus 7 (2013) be phone capable since it will have LTE this time? I have searched this thread and on line but came up with nothing out it has 4G LTE. Reason why is because I use my GTP 7 Plus 6200(3G) as my phone.
Thanks in advance Terry

Tarasque174 said:
Hey guys does or will the new Nexus 7 (2013) be phone capable since it will have LTE this time? I have searched this thread and on line but came up with nothing out it has 4G LTE. Reason why is because I use my GTP 7 Plus 6200(3G) as my phone.
Thanks in advance Terry
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Hey Terry,
I believe there are no stock phone capabilities with the N7. The LTE is just for data connectivity.
Correct me if I'm wrong,
Pert

pert_S said:
Hey Terry,
I believe there are no stock phone capabilities with the N7. The LTE is just for data connectivity.
Correct me if I'm wrong,
Pert
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You can use a VoIP app, there are even some that let you use your current number.
But I don't really think that is what you're asking.

dragonboydbboy said:
You can use a VoIP app, there are even some that let you use your current number.
But I don't really think that is what you're asking.
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Thanks for the reply! That actxatly waht I was looking for. Thanks But that sucks, I really like having only one device to carry around. And yes I really do use my GTP 7 Plus like crazy!
Everything people do with there phone I do it with my Tab. For those guys that think talking on a 7" device is crazy looking. LOL

I don't think you're crazy
I'm gonna try 'tablet talk' with the n7 and a bluetooth headset I got just today for $5. Phones are too small to be good for your eyes lol

Tarasque174 said:
Thanks for the reply! That actxatly waht I was looking for. Thanks But that sucks, I really like having only one device to carry around. And yes I really do use my GTP 7 Plus like crazy!
Everything people do with there phone I do it with my Tab. For those guys that think talking on a 7" device is crazy looking. LOL
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Haha I have a Note 8.0 and being on the phone in public always brings attention! :laugh:

There are two types of attention

Nexus 7 (2013) General > Nexus 7 Gen 2 "Phone Capability"?
If the device is being labeled as having a ''cellular support", does that mean it has a phone capability or just 3g/4g?
edit: A device has to have GSM to have phone capability.

I've thought about this as well... I would love it to be capable/practical as I only want to carry one device.
At the moment I think I'm just going to get the new 6.45" Xperia Z Ultra. I know its expensive but what the hell, I'm worth it

I really believe that if Google/Asus put phone capabilty on the Nexus 7, it would be a big hit.
I know I'd sell my Nexus 4 and buy it instantly, since I rarely use it as a phone. Maybe 2 or 3 times a day.

Qbancelli said:
I really believe that if Google/Asus put phone capabilty on the Nexus 7, it would be a big hit.
I know I'd sell my Nexus 4 and buy it instantly, since I rarely use it as a phone. Maybe 2 or 3 times a day.
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I'm half thinking they won't do it because they realise it will cannibalize phone sales. And google now has a vested interest in phones since they have acquired motorola.
I don't know maybe I'm off the mark? Is there a large enough portion of people who would use a 7" tablet as a phone to worry them? Phablet sales may indicate so.
I know everyone is complaining phones are getting to big but as a real productivity tool its the screen size that limits me. Give people choice I say. It will be interesting to see how well the Xperia Z ultra sells.

We need XDA experts to work on this - the Nexus 7 could be an EPIC phone!!!

Just use GrooVe IP + Google Voice.

or just wait a few years for the Nexus 7.... oh yea!

baileyjr said:
I'm half thinking they won't do it because they realise it will cannibalize phone sales. And google now has a vested interest in phones since they have acquired motorola.
I don't know maybe I'm off the mark? Is there a large enough portion of people who would use a 7" tablet as a phone to worry them? Phablet sales may indicate so.
I know everyone is complaining phones are getting to big but as a real productivity tool its the screen size that limits me. Give people choice I say. It will be interesting to see how well the Xperia Z ultra sells.
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Cannibalise phone sales? Serious? Everyone's going to ditch their portable, pocketable phones for 7 inch ones?
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It's the one reason i won't buy a 3g/4g enabled tablet. Unless it offers me the ability to make a call (i make maybe 2 calls a month) and send texts (a lot), then there is no way i'm going to pay upto £10 a month just for a bit of internet ontop of having a phone contract. But i want the N7, not a samsung note etc.

wackyD said:
Cannibalise phone sales? Serious? Everyone's going to ditch their portable, pocketable phones for 7 inch ones?
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No not everyone, I'm just speculating as to possible reasons why they don't include phone functionality for the few cents extra it would cost. Any insight as to why?
I suspect carriers would be pissed with the idea regardless.

Come on XDA - lets put our thinking hats on!
We need 7" phones!

baileyjr said:
No not everyone, I'm just speculating as to possible reasons why they don't include phone functionality for the few cents extra it would cost. Any insight as to why?
I suspect carriers would be pissed with the idea regardless.
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There'd probably be such little demand for a device like that.. Only people like you and me and xda'ers would be keen and we make up only a small, small minority
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hoping for a Gingerbread-powered G2 as Google Nexus Two by HTC

pretty sure sammy is not favourite of most of us...
especially with all those odin this and that download mode etc...
wouldn't it be nice to have G2 to become Nexus Two for both ATT and TMO?
Htc needs to make a true nexus sequel not some nexus knockoff by samsung that looks like a shiney turd
Odin and download mode make the Galaxy S phones unbrickable. Why wouldn't you want that?
Segnaro said:
Odin and download mode make the Galaxy S phones unbrickable. Why wouldn't you want that?
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too much hassle... been too spoiled with custom recovery for HTC phones!
only thing that can truly brick a HTC phone is when you flash radio anyway
EDIT: when you touch bootloader/ hboot too...
chris6278 said:
Htc needs to make a true nexus sequel not some nexus knockoff by samsung that looks like a shiney turd
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absolutely
Bummer...where is HTC when we need them for a N2.
I am not really happy with speakerphone with HTC products (I have/had TP2, HD2, and nexus one) and the 3G reception is kinda weak.
mingkee said:
I am not really happy with speakerphone with HTC products (I have/had TP2, HD2, and nexus one) and the 3G reception is kinda weak.
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You didn't like the speakerphone on the TP2? That was amazing! The keyboard was awesome, too.
There are many things I miss about my old Tilt2. Slow processor is not one of them, though.
HTC + GOOGLE = WINNER
who the hell can call any samsung device a NEXUS 2???????
Just isn't right. It is a crying shame. No device looks and feels like the Nexus One in your hand. It may have a few quirks but IMO it still the best device out there. I bought the G2 and ended up leaving the G2 on my desk and still use my Nexus One as my daily phone. Along with the desktop charger it is quite the package.
HTC + GOOGLE = WINNER
Give me a g1 with boosted specs. I miss that phone dearly
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I agree the Nexus S is not what I expected at all.
I'm confused... the g2 is a sense-less phone from HTC.. the only thing not making it a nexus is the name.........
th0r615 said:
I'm confused... the g2 is a sense-less phone from HTC.. the only thing not making it a nexus is the name.........
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No, also everything the name implies. The Nexus One (and most likely the Nexus S) you can build pretty much straight off AOSP after adding the drivers that are not open source. This is not true for the G2 as far as I know. Also, for those running unrooted they won't get the same fast updates.
Another point is that some of us think the Nexus S hurts the Nexus brand.
blunden said:
No, also everything the name implies. The Nexus One (and most likely the Nexus S) you can build pretty much straight off AOSP after adding the drivers that are not open source. This is not true for the G2 as far as I know. Also, for those running unrooted they won't get the same fast updates.
Another point is that some of us think the Nexus S hurts the Nexus brand.
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I don't think anyone with any sense of business will say that at all. I mean no offense, but hear me out. First, I'm not getting the S. Not a real upgrade, to me.
There is no real Nexus brand. It's nothing more than a silly name, really. Any profit from such a device that Google may see is miniscule at best. The 1 didn't sell many units, so not much profit there. Factor in they probably ordered a lot more than they sold, based upong Google calling it a massive failure. Then, toss in the fact that only uber-geeks bought it... The S is much the same, though sales will be theoretically be better with discount pricing, in-store sales, and better advertising. Profit will still be minimal, in my opinion. Google won't see a large revenue increase because of the S. Sounds like I'm agreeing with you so far, but I'm just saying there's no real Nexus brand.
But, figure there is a Nexus brand. The S, with in-store sales, discount pricing, and better advertising, will appeal to a wider audience than the 1. More Android users now, more people know about Froyo and Gingerbread. The S helps with brand recognition and gets the name out. It's like selling out: you're fan base hates you, nut you increase your fan base ten fold.
It's not what you or I want, but it doesn't hurt the brand, if one even exists.
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SoberGuy said:
Factor in they probably ordered a lot more than they sold, based upong Google calling it a massive failure. Then, toss in the fact that only uber-geeks bought it.
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google called the webstore a failure, not the nexus. they did see profits from the nexus one just a few months after going on sale.
and the nexus WAS meant for uber-geeks
flybyme said:
google called the webstore a failure, not the nexus. they did see profits from the nexus one just a few months after going on sale.
and the nexus WAS meant for uber-geeks
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Thanks for reading it literally and missing the point. The webstore was a failure, hence profits couldn't have been high at all, which is further evidence there is not much of a brand. Better?
Jesus....
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heres a real Nexus 2: http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/
I think that HTC should first make phones with better HW quality.
Speakers, t-screen, 3G connectivity are a joke on the N1 compared to other phones.
I wouldnt take another chance at HTC. They screwed up with the N1.
Yea that! I would love a G1 with updated specs and a 3.7 inch screen or higher and same keyboard..shooooot!!
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A G2 with a front facing camera, 2.3 and a hinge that didn't feel like it was a second away from failing catastrophically would be tough to beat!
Unfortunately that doesnt exist so try a Nexus S, it works great!

Nexus S T-Mobile

Does anyone know if there is still any place that sells brand new GT-I9020T Nexus S phones?
Best buy
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and will that work on T-Mobile 3G? I see that it is listed as an AT&T phone
You have to pick the Tmobile one. They sell all 3.
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are you sure? I don't see the T-Mobile Nexus S listed on their site...
Try a Store!
traded an htc sensation for mine. no regrets
having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
wait seriously? how do you know?
melterx12 said:
having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
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4.65" is including the part for "buttons" since they will be on the screen as there aren't any physical keys. so technically it isn't 4.65"
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/devices/doing-the-math-how-the-next-nexus-measures-up/
but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
melterx12 said:
but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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Depends on your definition of "soon".
As of right now it looks like it will be released around November.
If you want a cynic's opinion, here it is: The Nexus S was old-hat before it was even released. The only benefit was the ease of unlocking and getting updates first, which sounds awesome until you realize that the initial versions of GB were massively buggy. I'd expect the same for ICS. Add to that the fact that HTC is making it so you can easily unlock all of their phones and the list of reasons why I would want one gets much, much shorter. Non-existent, in fact. I'm actively looking for a way to get my hands on a device with hardware that wasn't dated before the first model rolled off the line or wasn't succeeded months later by a phone with a key feature the original was lacking for a more than sub-par carrier. I've said it before, but to save you the trouble of reading it somewhere else, I should have learned my lesson about buying Samsung phones after the Epic 4g debacle but I didn't. I have now and I'll advise anyone against buying their POS devices.
what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
AllGamer said:
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
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I'd say before the end of the year is "soon"
melterx12 said:
what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
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When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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kenvan19 said:
When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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I think he was confused (as was I) by the fact that your conclusion didn't really follow from your argument. You complained about the phone being outdated and you complained about gingerbread being buggy and then you ended by concluding that you shouldn't have bought a Samsung phone. But everything you complained of was Google's doing.
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I just picked up an i9020t Nexus S knowing full well that the Nexus Prime is coming. You know why?
Refined Galaxy S hardware
Comfortable rounded edges (looking at you, captivate)
Great ROM support, with ICS on the horizon
Respectable battery life
Pretty freaking fast
So yeah, the phone's hardware is dated. However, the Nexus S is my favorite size and shape, and OC'ed to 1.2ghz with some speed hacks from different places, I can't even imagine wanting for more speed. Now, this is all my opinion, but you can land a Nexus S now for a reasonable price. So get one and have several happy months of hacking!
eBay
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Is it worth it?

Hey guys, im thinking of buying a nexus 7, and for the price it is the bargain of the century.
but is it really worth it? ive got a S3 and thats getting JB soon
is there anything coming out soon that will be roughly the same price but any better?
Thanks Jack
I'm somewhat in the same boat as you but instead of upsizing in screen size I'm downsizing from a 10" tablet which is also set to recieve JB soon.
I think the largest factor in deciding if the Nexus 7 is right for you is knowing what you mostly use your cellphone for. If you mostly only surf the web, read books/articles, and watch movies trying to kill time when outside then a tablet isn't really right for you as a cellphone will have way more mobility and access to 4G internet. However, if you plan an using the Nexus 7 while sitting down somewhere or at home on the coach then the Nexus 7 would be a much better fit for you than just the SG3 due to the larger screen size and higher resolution.
Personally I dislike how cellphones such as the SG3 keep getting larger but I understand some people (like my parents) don't want mutiple devices of varying sizes but instead want something that can be used to fill various roles.
From what I've seen most of the tablets available at this moment or in the near future seem to have similar specs or features as the Nexus 7. However I'd suggest you stick with the Nexus 7 because there is much more support for the device as well as accessories. For now 7" tablets are still seen as "budget devices" so manufactures continue to make the exterior out of plastic with similar internals as others in the $200-300 price range.
I own a Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 and I feel like they complement the other perfectly. The Galaxy Nexus is perfect for on the go and what not, but while I'm home the Nexus 7 is my go to device.
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but is it really worth it?
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you just said its the bargain of the century!
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Yesssss.... but no more of these threads though...
Fully worth it mate. You won't find anything better for the price. Google are selling it cheap to get people on the play store, not make profit from the device itself.
Also, it's a nexus device, and nothing has better support than a nexus device. I'm fully sick of buying devices which never see updates.
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its worth, its size is nice to carry around with you, and well if your a regular around XDA i am sure you know how enable tethering on your phone.
It is really worth, pretty good size and performance really for a good price
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JackHanAnLG said:
is there anything coming out soon that will be roughly the same price but any better?
Thanks Jack
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Kindle Fire 2 ought to be announced soonish.
for me the only main annoyance with the n7 is the lack of optional 3G, it would be perfect if it had that.
for the price and the form factor and the technical specifications, nothing can come near it, I find I use my phone less and less (I have a htc velocity that has a 4.3 inch screen) and I'm uninstalling more and more off my phone, I may even end up just grabbing a smaller phone next time round as I carry the nexus 7 everywhere in my back pocket.
Using tablet talk, drop box and splash top, this has been pretty good at letting me get around the home and have everything funneled through WiFi. Plays games well, has amazing support, is the best Asus tablet I've owned actually. Takes my phone out of my pocket, keeps from needing to be at my comp to check my work email or open secure files, makes me portable. I'm pretty amazed. And this is a vanilla device, so it will always be up to date.
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davidcampbell said:
for me the only main annoyance with the n7 is the lack of optional 3G, it would be perfect if it had that..
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So you would rather pay for a second 3g service plan rather than just tethering off your phone and only having to pay for just one...
When I am walking around away from Wi-Fi, I just turn on tethering, stick the phone in my pocket and forget about it. The 4g in my phone is almost as good as my network at the house. No extra fees...
I have to have my phone with me at all times anyway 24x7 On call. In on 4g right now.
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davidcampbell said:
for me the only main annoyance with the n7 is the lack of optional 3G, it would be perfect if it had that.
for the price and the form factor and the technical specifications, nothing can come near it, I find I use my phone less and less (I have a htc velocity that has a 4.3 inch screen) and I'm uninstalling more and more off my phone, I may even end up just grabbing a smaller phone next time round as I carry the nexus 7 everywhere in my back pocket.
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You'd want to pay Telstra for two data plans?!?!?
Thanks for all the replies guys!
the reason i was asking it because im trying to get a YouTube account going! and i know there are alot of them out there that do android related stuff, and obviously the nexus 7 has been around for a while so i wont get many views/subs from something that was done a while ago!
i am still thinking of it and appreciate all the replies!
Jack

I feel like at&t doesn't actually want me to upgrade.

Lg Optimus G - Locked bootloader
Htc One X+ - Locked bootloader.
Galaxy note II - Out of my price/size range regardless of bootloader.
Xperia TL- Locked bootloader
Galaxy S3 - may grab but, not really thrilled about it like I would have been a few months back.
Nexus 4 - not paying 400$+ for 16 gb of memory and lack of LTE.
I really don't feel like I'm being *that* picky with what I want... Dev Support, better battery life than my captivate, a nice (preferably ips) screen. Either 32 gigs of memory or expandable storage.. and ideally LTE.
Anyone else out there feel kinda like they don't have any "real" options for their next device? I'm stuck on a family plan at the moment and feel like at&t is trolling me to be quite honest.
I feel the same here. I'm not upgrading anytime soon at all. My s2 should last me until I find a good fit for me.
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Shawn said:
I feel the same here. I'm not upgrading anytime soon at all. My s2 should last me until I find a good fit for me.
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It's a real shame too. There are a lot of nice phones being locked down for no real clear cut reason.
I mean I understand that they will sell regardless of whether or not I buy any given phone.. but, it just seems like a waste of their time/energy to lock up a phone when all it does is discourage users from upgrading.
Snow_fox said:
.. but, it just seems like a waste of their time/energy to lock up a phone when all it does is discourage users from upgrading.
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People like us are not the norm. Probably an iOS fart app has more downloads than the xda android app. The people who are being discouraged essentially don't exist to them.
post-mortem said:
People like us are not the norm. Probably an iOS fart app has more downloads than the xda android app. The people who are being discouraged essentially don't exist to them.
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While you are probably right on both accounts... I do think it's incredibly sad on all accounts.
They
A. spend money to lock down the bootloader. Even if it's not a lot it's still money.
B. Loose out on customers like me and you and the few who refuse to buy anything that won't get ROM updates for 2 years.
It's spending money to lose money for no real good reason. And while you're right, we don't exist to them in a lot of ways.. they still look for every possible way to get in our pocket and want every dime we have.
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While you are probably right on both accounts... I do think it's incredibly sad on all accounts.
They
A. spend money to lock down the bootloader. Even if it's not a lot it's still money.
B. Loose out on customers like me and you and the few who refuse to buy anything that won't get ROM updates for 2 years.
It's spending money to lose money for no real good reason. And while you're right, we don't exist to them in a lot of ways.. they still look for every possible way to get in our pocket and want every dime we have.
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A. is not necessarily true, because I'm pretty sure they hand out free phones to people who come in with their Android device "that just happened to shut off on them one day." Locking the bootloader cuts down on these numbers and saves them money in the long run.
Either way, AT&T has pretty much super phones from every major Android manufacterer, so you might want to take advantage of that. Also, the Galaxy S3 is a few months old - so what? Why is that impacting your decision on getting it? If I may, #firstworldproblems. I say go for it with incredible development support since that really appears to be the most open.
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Also not upgrading anytime soon, but for another reason. As it turns out, I went through 3 devices from sept 2011 thru 0ct 2012.
But yes, nothing coming out appeals to me. I fear the new nexus will be too massive for me, and I don't want any mfg/carrier controlled device.
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gagdude said:
A. is not necessarily true, because I'm pretty sure they hand out free phones to people who come in with their Android device "that just happened to shut off on them one day." Locking the bootloader cuts down on these numbers and saves them money in the long run.
Either way, AT&T has pretty much super phones from every major Android manufacterer, so you might want to take advantage of that. Also, the Galaxy S3 is a few months old - so what? Why is that impacting your decision on getting it? If I may, #firstworldproblems. I say go for it with incredible development support since that really appears to be the most open.
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There are a number of phones out there that are incredibly hard to brick past the point of repair.
"Average Joe" is going to be scared off by the possibility of a voided warranty and having to do anything requiring any level of technical skill. I don't really think locking down the bootloader saves them nearly as much money as they would like to believe. People are either going to be scared off and not mess with it, or they are going to be angry at you for not fully supporting your phone in any way shape or form.
You also say AT&T has super phones from every major manufacturer, yet the only one you listed with an unlocked bootloader/ample dev support is the S3.. I hardly think that qualifies as a serious or decent selection of "super phones" to pick from. Unless you mean "they have a bunch of phones that will be dropped in terms of support after 6 months."
And you can #firstworldproblem all day long. You're on the internet. The fact that we are even discussing this on the internet means it's a pretty high chance of being a first world issue. Being completely blunt, if you were to argue it's not even a problem I wouldn't really disagree because, quite frankly it's a luxury device and not a lack of water needed for survival.
On the flip side, if you are going to choose to discuss an issue, why not keep it relevant? Even if it is non-existent in scale as far as problems go, we can still discuss whatever we want last I checked.
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Also not upgrading anytime soon, but for another reason. As it turns out, I went through 3 devices from sept 2011 thru 0ct 2012.
But yes, nothing coming out appeals to me. I fear the new nexus will be too massive for me, and I don't want any mfg/carrier controlled device.
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It's my understanding the new nexus will be about the same size as the Gnex or AFAIK it is.
I don't care if it has carrier branding, I just want the ability to install the latest version of Cyanogen until I'm eligible for a new device.
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There are a number of phones out there that are incredibly hard to brick past the point of repair.
"Average Joe" is going to be scared off by the possibility of a voided warranty and having to do anything requiring any level of technical skill. I don't really think locking down the bootloader saves them nearly as much money as they would like to believe. People are either going to be scared off and not mess with it, or they are going to be angry at you for not fully supporting your phone in any way shape or form.
You also say AT&T has super phones from every major manufacturer, yet the only one you listed with an unlocked bootloader/ample dev support is the S3.. I hardly think that qualifies as a serious or decent selection of "super phones" to pick from. Unless you mean "they have a bunch of phones that will be dropped in terms of support after 6 months."
And you can #firstworldproblem all day long. You're on the internet. The fact that we are even discussing this on the internet means it's a pretty high chance of being a first world issue. Being completely blunt, if you were to argue it's not even a problem I wouldn't really disagree because, quite frankly it's a luxury device and not a lack of water needed for survival.
On the flip side, if you are going to choose to discuss an issue, why not keep it relevant? Even if it is non-existent in scale as far as problems go, we can still discuss whatever we want last I checked.
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Dude.. please. Chillax. I'm not arguing with you, simply stating my thoughts. No need to get aggrivated
I'm letting you discuss... when did I say you couldn't.....? I have my $.02 too, though.
By the way, when I said #firstworldproblems it was meant as a joke, not as an insult. I have them too, you know
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gagdude said:
Dude.. please. Chillax. I'm not arguing with you, simply stating my thoughts. No need to get aggrivated
I'm letting you discuss... when did I say you couldn't.....? I have my $.02 too, though.
By the way, when I said #firstworldproblems it was meant as a joke, not as an insult. I have them too, you know
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I am not aggro'd just discussing for the most part.
I more went off on a tanget and never reigned in the train of thought.
Snow_fox said:
I am not aggro'd just discussing for the most part.
I more went off on a tanget and never reigned in the train of thought.
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Sorry mate, it just seemed like you got angry at me.
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Sorry mate, it just seemed like you got angry at me.
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Oh no, I just have adhd tendencies like rambling.
At any rate, I am really hoping LG decides to throw out some way to unlock the bootloader. I'd really love to have a quad core device with an IPS display this time around.
I don't have anything against the SAMOLED displays but, I would personally prefer a sharper image to a more saturated image.
AT&T Atrix 4g user here...having a tough time deciding what to upgrade to as well. I've toyed with the idea of the One X and the SGS3 but neither excites me too much. Optimus G is very temping from a hardware perspective, but LG's lack of update support and a locked bootloader are a real put off. Will probably just end up grabbing an sgs3 because it will have the most rom support of any at&t phone.
I would prefer a nexus...but I just can't afford to spend $350+ on a phone.
My family plan on AT&T is breaking up. I've decided to go T mobile prepaid with the new Nexus, my dad, getting a job at US Cellular, will get a free plan there along with a $200 discount (he chose the S2) and my mom is sticking with AT&T for the iphone 5
Well good riddance, I had no service in various parts of school and at the local mall
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jhotmann said:
AT&T Atrix 4g user here...having a tough time deciding what to upgrade to as well. I've toyed with the idea of the One X and the SGS3 but neither excites me too much. Optimus G is very temping from a hardware perspective, but LG's lack of update support and a locked bootloader are a real put off. Will probably just end up grabbing an sgs3 because it will have the most rom support of any at&t phone.
I would prefer a nexus...but I just can't afford to spend $350+ on a phone.
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I would wait for a little while at least and see if the Optimus G gets an unlocked bootloader.. it would be godmode then. But, I have to wait till Dec 1st anyway.
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My family plan on AT&T is breaking up. I've decided to go T mobile prepaid with the new Nexus, my dad, getting a job at US Cellular, will get a free plan there along with a $200 discount (he chose the S2) and my mom is sticking with AT&T for the iphone 5
Well good riddance, I had no service in various parts of school and at the local mall
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Not entirely a bad thing.. Tmo has great selection of phones and AFAIK is a little more open with bootloaders and stuff.
I'm only getting the Nexus 4 because my current phone is pretty beaten and battered by now. (not to mention 2 years old)
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similar to a nexus 4

I can't afford 2 Nexus 4's and my wife wants an unlocked phone also. I have an HTC Flyer for sale and have been approched several times about a trade and I thought maybe I could trade for an unlocked android phone similar to the Nexus 4. Problem is I know almost nothing about unlocked android phones.
My question is to use the phone, without a sim card, with my wifi hotspot as a wifi phone with GrooveIP and be able to use android apps like Freenote, Antipaper Notes and Cool Tools with the largest screen available what kind of older touch screen phone should I consider?
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I can't afford 2 Nexus 4's and my wife wants an unlocked phone also. I have an HTC Flyer for sale and have been approched several times about a trade and I thought maybe I could trade for an unlocked android phone similar to the Nexus 4. Problem is I know almost nothing about unlocked android phones.
My question is to use the phone, without a sim card, with my wifi hotspot as a wifi phone with GrooveIP and be able to use android apps like Freenote, Antipaper Notes and Cool Tools with the largest screen available what kind of older touch screen phone should I consider?
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Galaxy Nexus
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Galaxy Nexus
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Thanks for your reply.
If you're looking to save a few bucks pick up a second hand nexus s. It's supported by Google through jelly bean not to mention by the development community. Probably get one for a c-note.
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You don't know me or my wife yet you feel you have the right to tell us how we should treat each other. Which phone my wife gets and which phone I get is no ones bussines but ours and is not a proper topic for discussion on this forum.
My post was asking about which phone would be the best for the desired usage. I was not asking how we should live our lives. I just mentioned the circumstances to give a little background to aid in understanding why I was posting the question not for to receive family advice. This is not the forum for personal or family advice.
What you do with your wife is not my business and I really don't want to know or care.
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Would this do sir $180 for a unlocked nexus s the screen is fine but the back has some scratches.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...569842&sr=8-1&keywords=nexus+s&condition=used
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Would this do sir $180 for a unlocked nexus s the screen is fine but the back has some scratches.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...569842&sr=8-1&keywords=nexus+s&condition=used
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Thanks for your reply, but that is a phone for sale and I am trying to consider a local trade of my wifi HTC Flyer for a phone. Would a Nexus fit these requirements? Without a sim card, using my wifi hotspot work as a wifi phone with GrooveIP and be able to use android apps with a stylus like Freenote, Antipaper Notes and Cool Tools? Since it has a 3.7 inch touch screen the screen should work (I think).
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Thanks for your reply, but that is a phone for sale and I am trying to consider a local trade of my wifi HTC Flyer for a phone. Would a Nexus fit these requirements? Without a sim card, using my wifi hotspot work as a wifi phone with GrooveIP and be able to use android apps with a stylus like Freenote, Antipaper Notes and Cool Tools? Since it has a 3.7 inch touch screen the screen should work (I think).
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Yeah it should work all apps would work and groove IP would allow you to make calls over WiFi.
A regular capacitive stylus would work n the touch screen but how well it will work I don't know
Like others have said, Galaxy Nexus.
Its the closest you can get to the Nexus 4 without being the Nexus 4.
Good luck
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Yeah it should work all apps would work and groove IP would allow you to make calls over WiFi.
A regular capacitive stylus would work n the touch screen but how well it will work I don't know
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For sure the regular capacitive stylus doesn't work too well but with some of the note apps they work well enough to make short, to remember, notes if you can read your own writting.:laugh:
I find that you get more bang for your buck using swappa.com rather than ebay. Much less of a chance of being screwed too.
And to the clown taking shots at the OP. This economy is in the ****ter maybe you're not feeling it as hard as others. Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. There was absolutely no need to belittle someone for asking a simple question.
Nexus S
It'll be hard to find older phones similar to the Nexus 4 (as per your title) as it has pretty high end specs.
But the older generation Nexus S (it has a 4 inch not 3.7 inch screen btw) should be snappy enough, plus has jelly bean and will continue to have xda support me thinks. That or the original Galaxy S (also 4 inch), the HTC Desire HD (4.3 inch) or Motorola Defy (3.7 inch but durable)
Hope that helps
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I can't afford 2 Nexus 4's and my wife wants an unlocked phone also. I have an HTC Flyer for sale and have been approched several times about a trade and I thought maybe I could trade for an unlocked android phone similar to the Nexus 4. Problem is I know almost nothing about unlocked android phones.
My question is to use the phone, without a sim card, with my wifi hotspot as a wifi phone with GrooveIP and be able to use android apps like Freenote, Antipaper Notes and Cool Tools with the largest screen available what kind of older touch screen phone should I consider?
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You can get galaxy player if u dont want phone functionality:
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/mp3-players/YP-G70CWY/XAA
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Nexus 4...Alternatives
I was gonna start a new thread, but this seems relevant. I am STRONGLY considering the Nexus 4, but 2 things are putting me off: 1. Non-removable battery. and 2. The poor reported battery life from various review sources. The later wouldn't be so bad if the former wasn't an issue. Anyways, I'm curious to know of any other phones out there with similar specs AND price (i.e. no overpriced Samsung crap.) I'm talking about the 8GB version for $300, to be specific. Also, should be non-contract GSM for T-Mobile network.
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No you will not. Follow the forum rules please. Keep your comments respectful, and on topic.
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donec said:
I can't afford 2 Nexus 4's and my wife wants an unlocked phone also. I have an HTC Flyer for sale and have been approched several times about a trade and I thought maybe I could trade for an unlocked android phone similar to the Nexus 4. Problem is I know almost nothing about unlocked android phones.
My question is to use the phone, without a sim card, with my wifi hotspot as a wifi phone with GrooveIP and be able to use android apps like Freenote, Antipaper Notes and Cool Tools with the largest screen available what kind of older touch screen phone should I consider?
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Galaxy S3 stats are almost identical
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It'll be hard to find older phones similar to the Nexus 4 (as per your title) as it has pretty high end specs.
But the older generation Nexus S (it has a 4 inch not 3.7 inch screen btw) should be snappy enough, plus has jelly bean and will continue to have xda support me thinks. That or the original Galaxy S (also 4 inch), the HTC Desire HD (4.3 inch) or Motorola Defy (3.7 inch but durable)
Hope that helps
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Yes it does thank you.
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You can get galaxy player if u dont want phone functionality:
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/mp3-players/YP-G70CWY/XAA
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Thanks I have never heard of a Galaxy Player. It gives another option for a trade and seems it may also do what I need just need to do some more research as it seems to come in different sizes.
I'm not sure how I broke the rules or went off topic when I'm posting in a thread named "similar to a nexus 4."
But I'm asking for suggestions about other phones similar to the Nexus 4 (in specs and price) with a removable battery. and I'm particularly not interested in high end Samsung phones (generally those in the Galaxy lines) appear to be comparatively overpriced. if this offends mods using said phones, I do apologize. I'll be more respectful to your feelings from here on :]

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