[Q] Are my chances of an unlocked BL ruined? - Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I got the Razr M from my father, and he had installed the most recent update.
I was able to downgrade to the original rom and bootloader, and gained root via motochopper. However, whenever I try to unlock my bootloader using motopocalypse I cant get it to work.
My question is, because I was fully updated at one point, has that ruined me chances of unlocking with the currently available methods?

ens1 said:
I got the Razr M from my father, and he had installed the most recent update.
I was able to downgrade to the original rom and bootloader, and gained root via motochopper. However, whenever I try to unlock my bootloader using motopocalypse I cant get it to work.
My question is, because I was fully updated at one point, has that ruined me chances of unlocking with the currently available methods?
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yes

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yes
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Alright, Can I do anything useful with safestrapper? I'm trying it out but I cant get it to load a rom. I think it's because It's a higher kernel version than what I currently have installed.

ens1 said:
Alright, Can I do anything useful with safestrapper? I'm trying it out but I cant get it to load a rom. I think it's because It's a higher kernel version than what I currently have installed.
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all the roms out now need an unlocked bootloader, you may be able to find one or two older roms that can work with safestrap

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new to nexus s, how to update to latest f/w

Hi guys,
Just recieved a nexus s i purchased on ebay (LOVE IT!) coming from a Galaxy S i used to use odin for flashing the latest roms
But one of the things i wanted from having the nexus s was getting updates quick, and what i thought was OTA updates.
i have just gone into "about phone" checked for updates and there are apparently none available. details below
Android Version = 2.3.1
Baseband Version = I9020XXJK8
Kernel version = 2.6.35.7-gf1638a [email protected] #1
Build number = GRH78
so my question is, how do i get to the latest official FW, i thought it would be as easy as clicking check updates, but obviously not
Cheers guys, i have searched btw, and im lost completely
The full ROM to upgrade you to 2.3.4 is available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061445
That should work for any previous build I think - if not use the 2.3.3 ROM and then run the update to 2.3.4.
of course assuming your running stock you could try a checkin and wait for the OTA to reach your handset........
as im on 2.3.1 at the moment, wouldnt there be an OTA already waiting to update to 2.3.3 if the 2.3.4 update has not yet been pushed to this perticular handset?
ascottuk said:
as im on 2.3.1 at the moment, wouldnt there be an OTA already waiting to update to 2.3.3 if the 2.3.4 update has not yet been pushed to this perticular handset?
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Yup - should be........how long have you had the phone?
recieved yesterday, so i have been using it for just over 24hours,
im probably being impatiant
ascottuk said:
recieved yesterday, so i have been using it for just over 24hours,
im probably being impatiant
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yeh, once your SIM and handset get registered with Google's servers (which can take a few days) you should get the OTA. if your impatient like me just run the updates manually...
moon-unit said:
yeh, once your SIM and handset get registered with Google's servers (which can take a few days) you should get the OTA. if your impatient like me just run the updates manually...
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is there anyway to check if my bootloader is unlocked?
i take flashing manually is just a case of downloading the relevent ota rom, and putting it on the SD card, then start the phone in recovery?
ascottuk said:
is there anyway to check if my bootloader is unlocked?
i take flashing manually is just a case of downloading the relevent ota rom, and putting it on the SD card, then start the phone in recovery?
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boot your phone up while holding onto the volume up button as well and it should load up a screen with a green droid which will show your bootloader state whether it's LOCKED or UNLOCKED.
Place the rom in the root directory of your sd card then boot in recovery and install zip from sdcard.
ok checked and its locked, so am i still able to flash from sd?
ascottuk said:
ok checked and its locked, so am i still able to flash from sd?
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It depends. If you are looking at staying "stock" then go see the sticky thread for 2.3.4, there is a full ROM version that you can install. It's signed by Google, so the stock recovery will install it. No need to unlock your bootloader
if you wanted to flash zip's (such as the superuser zip update to gain root access) that where signed by other sources, then you would need to unlock the bootloader and replace the recovery with something like Clockwork
Matridom said:
It depends. If you are looking at staying "stock" then go see the sticky thread for 2.3.4, there is a full ROM version that you can install. It's signed by Google, so the stock recovery will install it. No need to unlock your bootloader
if you wanted to flash zip's (such as the superuser zip update to gain root access) that where signed by other sources, then you would need to unlock the bootloader and replace the recovery with something like Clockwork
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many thanks for all your help, appreciate it alot
you have been thanked!
ascottuk said:
many thanks for all your help, appreciate it alot
you have been thanked!
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before you update, i'd love to get a dump of the phone on 2.3.1 that i could use please.
MarkusPO said:
before you update, i'd love to get a dump of the phone on 2.3.1 that i could use please.
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BTW, i'll receive my Nexus S today.
Before i start unlocking, rooting etc. i'd like to dump my system/bootloaders for emergency.
I know that it's not really necessary but how do i do it.

[Q] Help with booloader unlock

Im sorta confused and can't get my booloader unlocked on my razr m. I tried through the utility after i went back to stock 4.1.2 and rerooted. But i get an error trust zone write failed -11. Wat am i doing wrong. I have flashed back to stock so many times and rerooted through both utlitys. Help Please
twilightmsift said:
Im sorta confused and can't get my booloader unlocked on my razr m. I tried through the utility after i went back to stock 4.1.2 and rerooted. But i get an error trust zone write failed -11. Wat am i doing wrong. I have flashed back to stock so many times and rerooted through both utlitys. Help Please
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Did you try Matt's utility in the DEV forum? Have usb debugging set?
aviwdoowks said:
Did you try Matt's utility in the DEV forum? Have usb debugging set?
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yea already tried it the utlilty gives me the error.
twilightmsift said:
yea already tried it the utlilty gives me the error.
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I'm getting the same exact issue. I have a refurb. I was able to root and unlock my previous razr hd. After that one broke and I got a replacement I followed the same steps and still I cannot unlock the bootloader...
You may have covered all of this but im throwing it out there in case something helps:
- Did you take or are you on the most recent OTA update? if so that blocks the unlock exploit (i think this was pushed out over the past couple weeks)
- are you sure you are rerooted and using a working version of superSU?
- have you tried using the Motopocalypse.zip and running that tool vs using Mats utility? Make sure you are giving root privileges when / if it asks.
PantherVT said:
You may have covered all of this but im throwing it out there in case something helps:
- Did you take or are you on the most recent OTA update? if so that blocks the unlock exploit (i think this was pushed out over the past couple weeks)
- are you sure you are rerooted and using a working version of superSU?
- have you tried using the Motopocalypse.zip and running that tool vs using Mats utility? Make sure you are giving root privileges when / if it asks.
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I believe my phone came with the latest update. At this point, does that mean I can't flash back down to an older version and unlock the boot loader?
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Correct, you are, as they say, up the creek :/
But most people seem confident there will be another exploit... I dunno.
fcardona86 said:
I'm getting the same exact issue. I have a refurb. I was able to root and unlock my previous razr hd. After that one broke and I got a replacement I followed the same steps and still I cannot unlock the bootloader...
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That utility will only work with the RAZR M
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PantherVT said:
You may have covered all of this but im throwing it out there in case something helps:
- Did you take or are you on the most recent OTA update? if so that blocks the unlock exploit (i think this was pushed out over the past couple weeks)
- are you sure you are rerooted and using a working version of superSU?
- have you tried using the Motopocalypse.zip and running that tool vs using Mats utility? Make sure you are giving root privileges when / if it asks.
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i took the update when i first got the phone but used the utlity to go back to 4.1.2 for the march version. im rooted with my supersu updated n yes i tried both the app n zip
twilightmsift said:
i took the update when i first got the phone but used the utlity to go back to 4.1.2 for the march version. im rooted with my supersu updated n yes i tried both the app n zip
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What utility did you use to go backwards? I also took the update but would love to be able to go back and get root and unlocked bootloader.
jklong03 said:
What utility did you use to go backwards? I also took the update but would love to be able to go back and get root and unlocked bootloader.
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There is a post on DroidRzr where they are working a root method for the update. It requires fast booting back to the previous update. However, you still won't be able to unlock because the new OTA patches the security vulnerability that allowed the unlock.
From what I've read, going backwards does not reopen the exploit.
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RAZR M Latest Update: No Root?

I was finally about to root my RAZR M after owning the phone about a year. My primary reason for rooting would be to uninstall all of the system bloat ware that came with it.
I've tried a few different ways to root, but it keeps failing. There was a new update installed a couple days before I tried rooting and I suspect this is the reason it won't work. Is this the case?
Is there a workaround for rooting RAZR M with the current update? If there is simply no way to do it, I would at least like to know if there's a way to remove pre-installed apps without root. Please help!!
Thanks in advance for your response.
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
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What's your system version? I you're on the most recent update, there's no way to root yet.
Thanks for your quick response.
98.30.1.XT907
Update happened literally the day I was planning on rooting!! Gotta loose that bloatware! Plus I'm a compulsive customizer.
I'm wondering if its possible to revert back to before the update.. my research so far has produced nothing so far
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
flow motive said:
Thanks for your quick response.
98.30.1.XT907
Update happened literally the day I was planning on rooting!! Gotta loose that bloatware! Plus I'm a compulsive customizer.
I'm wondering if its possible to revert back to before the update.. my research so far has produced nothing so far
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
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At the moment there is no way to root 98.30.1 without an unlocked bootloader. Reverting back to previous versions may brick your device.
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Leraeniesh said:
At the moment there is no way to root 98.30.1 without an unlocked bootloader. Reverting back to previous versions may brick your device.
Sent from my XT907 using xda premium
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I have an unlocked bootloader and have the newest OTA, would you be able to point me to a way of rooting? Please and thank you!
dtraini7 said:
I have an unlocked bootloader and have the newest OTA, would you be able to point me to a way of rooting? Please and thank you!
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Grab the .zip from here and flash in recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I got a Razr M from a friend who had already updated to 98.30.1 and I'm stuck now with a locked BL and Unrooted ROM. No hope in sight? Then there's this ... http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...y-warranties-on-developer-devices-reinstated/
Maybe there is a silver lining in the horizon?
Really bums me out there's no root for the new update, I was waiting to root till I decided I was gonna keep this phone then the Sept update came and now I can't root. Very disappointed. Wonder if it'll ever get bl unlock?
Anyone considered this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541739 ?

Razr hd / hd maxx 4.4.2 rooting and unlocking - get it while you can!!

I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
LifeAsADroid said:
I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
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Just read this on Android Authority and was wondering if it would work. Great to hear this. Again, users got REAL lucky on this one considering this wasn't created specifically for this phone, but for the general population of unpatched 4.4.2 kernels.
Word of warning, if you used my UNIVERSAL script to flash 183 onto your phone, you must either manually flash the TZ partition or use my KEEP DATA script before rooting an unlocking else it will fail.
BTW, I just received an email notification from Motorola stating there is another soak test coming, so definitely root and unlocked your phones NOW and I can't stress that more than enough or else, you can kiss root and unlocking good-bye, especially if this is an 4.4.3 update. Once 4.4.3 comes out, /system is no longer writeable and things will get really ugly.
So, root and then unlock your phones on the 4.4.2 KK OTA before the next one comes out or you will be sorry.
BTW, if you're so worried about voiding your warranty, once you root, you've voided your warranty and there is a root checker built into the device, so they can tell if you've rooted or not, so if you're going to root, you might as well unlock the bootloader.
The warranty concern is nonsense. PLENTY of people sent back unlocked phones and no one ever complained. Yes, the soak emails were known about last night which is why we've been trying like hell to get this message out to everyone to get it done NOW. It's an almost certainty that the TZ partition will be secured again. And root will almost assuredly be patched since it was patched in the linux kernel on june 3rd. Unlocking is the surefire way of keeping root forever, and getting to play with new roms which is awesome. Plus, don't like kitkat? Downgrade with my UNIVERSAL script. (Yes, the one that's causing some problems for people unlocking. LOL). We can not stress this enough...NOW is the time to unlock before it's too late. I can't even begin to describe how lucky you all are.
One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
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newmanx4 said:
One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
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yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
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billycar11 said:
yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
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Stop that. They're not going to relock the bootloader. However, screw OTA's. Wait for the FXZ to leak and use my RSD Script Generator to create a KEEP DATA or UNIVERSAL script and flash that with RSD. Flash custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) and flash supersu zip and be done with the whole thing. Forget unrooting and trying to make the OTA work. Too much effort. LMAO
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See what you've done? These poor people are now paranoid about bootloader relocking. LOL! They won't relock it. It's physically blowing an eFuse to do the unlock. Relocking would be extremely problematic and cause more problems than they'd solve. And given the likelihood that this was "accidentally" done (cough cough) in the first place, there's an almost 0 chance of relocking.
newmanx4 said:
That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
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i dont think they will and even if they did we could probably get around it with @SamuriHL universal script we would just have to wait until the sbf/fxz files come out
Which I'm recommending you do anyway.
I never unlocked the bootloader the first go round but I'm sure going to this time.
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Good to hear. I want everyone with these phones to do so. This is a great opportunity. No one should be sitting on the fence this time.
Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
xknobi said:
Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
4.yes
5.no you you use the hack posted
billycar11 said:
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
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Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
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Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
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yes that is what i posted
Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
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billycar11 said:
yes that is what i posted
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Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
newmanx4 said:
Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
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twrp by @dhacker29 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776515
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xknobi said:
Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
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there is no jb 4.2 i think you mean 4.1..2 . but you will not be able to use it on jelly bean you need to update to kitkat root then unlock.

Possible to flash od5 bootloader on oe1?

Hi Just A quick ltitle qeustion, is it possible to flash a different bootloader on oe1? I want to flash the od5 bootloader on my oe1 updated s5 so I can downgrade back to kitkat and install a miui rom, but someone told me it would just brick my phone.
chaos10299 said:
Hi Just A quick ltitle qeustion, is it possible to flash a different bootloader on oe1? I want to flash the od5 bootloader on my oe1 updated s5 so I can downgrade back to kitkat and install a miui rom, but someone told me it would just brick my phone.
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Search before you post. And repost, and repost, and repost.
ldeveraux said:
Search before you post. And repost, and repost, and repost.
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I did nothing about flashing a different bootloader comes up
chaos10299 said:
I did nothing about flashing a different bootloader comes up
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You're essentially asking if you can downgrade from oe1. If you searched for what you're actually trying to do, you'd know...
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You're essentially asking if you can downgrade from oe1. If you searched for what you're actually trying to do, you'd know...
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Look all I found was that oe1 will not let you downgrade with the mega locked bootloader verizon added so I was wondering if I can flash the od5 bootloader by instelf which would allow me to downgrade to kitkat to root. I do not have root so I can't use the how to update to oe1 and keep root me think but in the method it says to flash the od5 bootloader but I don't know if I have to already be rooted or not.
No, because if you could do what you're suggesting, then you would be able to downgrade from oe1, which you can't.
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Look all I found was that oe1 will not let you downgrade with the mega locked bootloader verizon added so I was wondering if I can flash the od5 bootloader by instelf which would allow me to downgrade to kitkat to root. I do not have root so I can't use the how to update to oe1 and keep root me think but in the method it says to flash the od5 bootloader but I don't know if I have to already be rooted or not.
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You may be onto something with your approach here. Here's a novel idea I think you should try. Start yet ANOTHER thread asking the exact same question. Maybe this time you will get a different answer.
Oh and by the way, your idea in the OP of this thread is completely flawed to begin with. From the day of release, this phone had been unable to run miui or any AOSP based ROM.
landshark68 said:
You may be onto something with your approach here. Here's a novel idea I think you should try. Start yet ANOTHER thread asking the exact same question. Maybe this time you will get a different answer.
Oh and by the way, your idea in the OP of this thread is completely flawed to begin with. From the day of release, this phone had been unable to run miui or any AOSP based ROM.
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You can run this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-miui-v5-g900f-ry09iu-4-8-11-t2946540 verizon with a kitkat kernel I've already had it once.
chaos10299 said:
You can run this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-miui-v5-g900f-ry09iu-4-8-11-t2946540 verizon with a kitkat kernel I've already had it once.
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Hahaha, no you can't. I read the last 10 pages or so of the thread you linked, and your phone froze up after install. Running a ROM on a phone means after install and set up the phone actually works, functions like it should, and you can use it. The bootloader on our phone is locked down which means no miui or any other AOSP ROMs because we can't flash a traditional recovery. The dev himself in that thread said he didn't think his miui ROM worked on Verizon phones. Keep trying to flash not only an AOSP ROM, but one meant for the international version, and I look forward to reading your post where you write that you now have a $600 paper weight.
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Hahaha, no you can't. I read the last 10 pages or so of the thread you linked, and your phone froze up after install. Running a ROM on a phone means after install and set up the phone actually works, functions like it should, and you can use it. The bootloader on our phone is locked down which means no miui or any other AOSP ROMs because we can't flash a traditional recovery. The dev himself in that thread said he didn't think his miui ROM worked on Verizon phones. Keep trying to flash not only an AOSP ROM, but one meant for the international version, and I look forward to reading your post where you write that you now have a $600 paper weight.
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Ok and I have the money for it. And it didnt work because i was on lollipop dummy the rom is based off of kitkat and the dev told me i could try it on lollipop, he said he doesn't know if it'll work on lollipop. I don't know why you have to be rude about it. It was a simple question that I asked for a simple answer. But thanks goodbye.

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