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So I just bought my girl a G2, and I am waiting for the tab. I was very impressed with teh speed of the g2 and its perfomance in all games. I was really wondering since the galaxy s scored even below the nexus one with 2.2 on it in a benchmarking review. how do you think the tab will do?
Everything seems to be the same from the galaxy s to the tab... so does anyone expect the tablet to perform slower than say the g2? Or what about aleast better than the Galaxy s?
Also is the chipset in the tab the same as the one in the galaxy s? Or are their minor differences?
I can assure you that the galaxy tab will be plenty fast on 2.2 I have a samsung galaxy s (captivate) running 2.2 and I never have lag you cannot compare the galaxy s series though quadrant scores as that benchmark is biased to the snap dragon processor which the galaxy s does not run on.
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laxwillsch said:
I can assure you that the galaxy tab will be plenty fast on 2.2 I have a samsung galaxy s (captivate) running 2.2 and I never have lag you cannot compare the galaxy s series though quadrant scores as that benchmark is biased to the snap dragon processor which the galaxy s does not run on.
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Quadrant scores dont count for everything, and its hardly biased, snapdragon does better at the I/O tests more than anything. My Desire on a myTouch 4G port is quicker than stock Android roms according to quadrant.
Make sense of that
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laxwillsch said:
I can assure you that the galaxy tab will be plenty fast on 2.2 I have a samsung galaxy s (captivate) running 2.2 and I never have lag you cannot compare the galaxy s series though quadrant scores as that benchmark is biased to the snap dragon processor which the galaxy s does not run on.
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lol, No it's not.
Stock vs Stock The G2 beat the Galaxy S at every bench mark I've put on them
(5 total) except CPU benchmark and those scores were 812 for the G2 vs 799 on the Galaxy S ( lower the better )
The g2 has the latest snapdragon, it will be a little faster than the galaxy s in cpu benchmarks once overclocked. This is what happens when google coded froyo optimization's for only one cpu type, before that we kicked snapdragon ass
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siberslug said:
lol, No it's not.
Stock vs Stock The G2 beat the Galaxy S at every bench mark I've put on them
(5 total) except CPU benchmark and those scores were 812 for the G2 vs 799 on the Galaxy S ( lower the better )
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JIT.
RFS.
go read up on those before you go around correcting people on what's better than what. Benchmarks don't mean a thing. There's a reason why people like Cyanogen don't trust them.
It's kinda hard or weird (or pointless) to compare SGS and Tab CPU and GPU wise, since they both have THE EXACT SAME HARDWARE as long as those are concerned... They both run on the Samsung-built 1GHz Hummingbird chip (that includes the PowerVR GPU). So as long as only CPU/GPU are benchmarked, hardware-wise the SGS and Tab are identical.
Now, comparing those two on a general level makes more sense as they are bound to have small software differences. (At least my Tab does not have the 'SGS-lag' present at all and generally feels smoother to operate)
tl;dr: Basically Galaxy Tab = SGS with different screen, no real point comparing these two extensively
But they must have done a lot of tweaking on the tab that has yet to be ported to the S(if it ever does....).
Seriously, the Tab is smooth as silk, runs like you'd want and as we all know, essentially the same hardware, 2.2 and even RFS.
Also, benchmarks are worthless. My Galaxy S, with Docs JPO 7.5 ROM, ULF ext4 lagfix (no overkill here, not a score whore) gets around 1500 on quadthingy. My Tab, stock, gets around 900-1000. Yet the Tab is sooo much smoother, even with all my tweaks on the S. linpack is pretty much the same (as you'd expect) and I can't be bothered after that.
The only test that matters, usability, favours the Tab.
If I could get the stock Tab rom/fw/whatever onto my S, I'd be a happy camper.
That and a decent browser (dolphin doesn't do it for me either, just don't like it, gotta try the firefox alpha/beta/whatever)
I think the galaxy tab gpu is clocked at higher speed than the s,using neocore it gives same fbs as. Galaxy s although tab has higher resolution and also tab is announced with 1080p playback while galaxy s is anounced with 720 p correct if im wrong
Both equally good. If size does matter, big and small screen, your choice. For me, tab is best.
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tab performs significantly worse as it has a bigger screen to power + more pixels.
But the tab 8.9 and sgs 2 (dual cores) will be a good match!
spekesel said:
But they must have done a lot of tweaking on the tab that has yet to be ported to the S(if it ever does....).
Seriously, the Tab is smooth as silk, runs like you'd want and as we all know, essentially the same hardware, 2.2 and even RFS.
Also, benchmarks are worthless. My Galaxy S, with Docs JPO 7.5 ROM, ULF ext4 lagfix (no overkill here, not a score whore) gets around 1500 on quadthingy. My Tab, stock, gets around 900-1000. Yet the Tab is sooo much smoother, even with all my tweaks on the S. linpack is pretty much the same (as you'd expect) and I can't be bothered after that.
The only test that matters, usability, favours the Tab.
If I could get the stock Tab rom/fw/whatever onto my S, I'd be a happy camper.
That and a decent browser (dolphin doesn't do it for me either, just don't like it, gotta try the firefox alpha/beta/whatever)
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my tab isnt smooth at all!
I preffer sgs.
Samsung Galaxy S II Tegra (Galaxy Royal) i9103
Available in Europe from at least 104 Online shops:
http://skinflint.co.uk/eu/670691
Telecoms are selling the "i9103 Samsung Galaxy S II Tegra" for 300 US$ less then the i9100 Samsung Galaxy S II. So many customers buy the i9103.
Some of the custom telecom versions out there:
Hutchinson 3 Samsung Galaxy R i9103
O2 Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Vodafone Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Mobilcom Debitel Samsung Galaxy R i9103
T-Mobile/Telekom Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Telco Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Base Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Talkline Samsung Galaxy R i9103
E-Plus Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Hope we soon get our own forum or we will have to use the i9100 forum.
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tegra now?...why so late???omg...
Its already available in India since a month. Its more like a Dual Core version of Galaxy S rather than S2. It has almost same features of Galaxy S except for dual core. 5 MP cam, 512 Mb Ram, 4.1 inch SLCD screen etc.
http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/sam...qw--&ref=16a7bad0-7777-4e16-b755-cc8f2840eccc
it has 1GB RAM 4.19" and SLCD and flash LED.
I don't think this counts as a Galaxy S II, or even a Galaxy S device...
The closer aproach would be like an S2 SCL. S is i9000 and S SCL I9003, this is I9103 and S2 is the original I9100, so more or less like S2 SCL.
But it's Galaxy R (with different hw)...not Galaxy S2...though the code is I9103...very strange...
I have a Galaxy R (i9103) and a Galaxy S (i9000).
Galaxy R is a nice phone. Very very fast and good looking. I think it is very similar to the S2 (i9100) because it looks like it has the same crap implementation of the Yahama DAC. Galaxy S sounds waaay better with Voodoo Sound and I am still using it as my personal phone.
If the only difference is the CPU+GPU part, S2 ROMs may be kind of "compatible". Changing the kernel and other details could be the only needed actions to get some proper ROMs for this phone.
Endoran said:
I don't think this counts as a Galaxy S II, or even a Galaxy S device...
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S II Tegra is one of its names. And it is faster then SII:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19879762
legion1911 said:
S II Tegra is one of its names. And it is faster then SII:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19879762
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Lol? Mali plus exynos is a way more faster than tegra crap.
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Tegra 2 is Android reference design for Android tablets. So it is not crap.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is also Tegra 2.
The Galaxy R does everything a Galaxy Tab 10.1 does, but it fits into the pocket of your Jeans.
"The Samsung Galaxy R I9103 is an Android smartphone that was announced by Samsung on August 10, 2011 as a variant to the Samsung Galaxy S II."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_R
"The Samsung Galaxy R is one of the currently available variants of the Galaxy S II."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II
legion1911 said:
S II Tegra is one of its names. And it is faster then SII:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19879762
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Lol its very well documented that Mali is (a lot) faster than tegra II...
please don't start this again and do your researches before posting random benchmarks trying to prove something that's not true...
If benchmark scores were to be taken seriously, I can have higher scores than yours without overclocking my phone as you did to get those scores...
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The back of the phone looks better than our Exynos models... we still blow every phone out of the water though in terms of performance .
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Teio said:
Lol its very well documented that Mali is (a lot) faster than tegra II...
please don't start this again and do your researches before posting random benchmarks trying to prove something that's not true...
If benchmark scores were to be taken seriously, I can have higher scores than yours without overclocking my phone as you did to get those scores...
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King Shady said:
The back of the phone looks better than our Exynos models... we still blow every phone out of the water though in terms of performance .
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a lot (by hair)
Blow (blow job)
truth to be told it's not worthy upgrade to original SGS wahahahahahaha
you'r just trying to justify great amount of cash spent
you too
thought i was the only one with an s2 and still using my galaxy s as my daily phone.. for same reason. crap sound chip, also slow gps lock times.
josjator said:
I have a Galaxy R (i9103) and a Galaxy S (i9000).
Galaxy R is a nice phone. Very very fast and good looking. I think it is very similar to the S2 (i9100) because it looks like it has the same crap implementation of the Yahama DAC. Galaxy S sounds waaay better with Voodoo Sound and I am still using it as my personal phone.
If the only difference is the CPU+GPU part, S2 ROMs may be kind of "compatible". Changing the kernel and other details could be the only needed actions to get some proper ROMs for this phone.
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whats faster S2 tegra or exynos? I haven could to test the tegra ...
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whats faster S2 tegra or exynos? I haven could to test the tegra ...
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Can someone check the DAC on this phone? Also, does it support USB OTG and MHL?
samsung galxy r i9103 usb on the go!!!
can u tell me if this device supports usb on the go just lyk its big brother s2?????????
Teio said:
If benchmark scores were to be taken seriously, I can have higher scores than yours without overclocking my phone as you did to get those scores...
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On custom roms for sure Come on, why should you overclock if you have originally faster cpu (1,2 vs 1,0) ?
I tested both handsets (stock roms) and results of quadrant, smartbench, cf... were almost the same, little higher in favor of sgs2 (1,2 ghz ex compared to tegra's 1 ghz). Clocked to 1.2 ghz tegra had slightly better scores in every test.
No need to argue about that, I know what experts say about exynos' and tegra's performance. The thing is that for average user is really hard to notice which of those two handsets is snappier.
The Nexus 7 should be very "powerful" as promised by Google!
Quad-core 1.3 GHz Tegra 3 processor vs Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9... the Nexus is a Giant in CPU performance, but the UI isn't smoother than Galaxy S2, indeed it seems that the UI hardship to drag from one screen to another, is not at all fluid! in some case this is irritating!
At this point the Mali GPU of the Galaxy S2 it's a big point over the perfmance!
Anyone have the same observation about the UI smoothness of the S2 vs the Nexus 7?
Naamah said:
The Nexus 7 should be very "powerful" as promised by Google!
Quad-core 1.3 GHz Tegra 3 processor vs Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9... the Nexus is a Giant in CPU performance, but the UI isn't smoother than Galaxy S2, indeed it seems that the UI hardship to drag from one screen to another, is not at all fluid! in some case this is irritating!
At this point the Mali GPU of the Galaxy S2 it's a big point over the perfmance!
Anyone have the same observation about the UI smoothness of the S2 vs the Nexus 7?
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Are you comparing stock with stock? Personally, I find both stock and most roms very smooth. I don't have a GS2 but its definitely a lot smoother than the phones I have played on, including the GS2 on ICS stock.
What did you do to it? I use a SGS3 at work (I'm a software engineer currently developing a proprietary android app for my company) and the Nexus 7 is just as "smooth" if not smoother. You realize as soon as you install apps or modify it in any way the comparison to another device is not fair because it's not on even footing, right? Take it and the S2 back to stock with a factory reset and then compare them. It's entirely possible that apps that you choose to install will affect the performance of the device, even when they are not running.
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What did you do to it? I use a SGS3 at work (I'm a software engineer currently developing a proprietary android app for my company) and the Nexus 7 is just as "smooth" if not smoother. You realize as soon as you install apps or modify it in any way the comparison to another device is not fair because it's not on even footing, right? Take it and the S2 back to stock with a factory reset and then compare them. It's entirely possible that apps that you choose to install will affect the performance of the device, even when they are not running.
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The Nexus7 and the S2 have the same Apex Launcher, the same LWP, and around the same software installed, the kernel is about to stock (excepted for the rooting) on both device, and the software installed is pretty the same (maybe the S2 have some apps plus rather the N7).
The Stock S2 is not AOSP (is Samsung full of bloatware) as in N7, so compairing the stock isn't to right... so I've installed in my S2 the SuperNexus (AOSP JB) to compare with N7 (AOSP JB).
Exist a benchmark to test the smoothness of the UI? instead of the CPU benchmark?
The difference of smoothness I've found maybe can be imputed to the different screen resolution? (1280x800 vs 480x800)
I don't know what you've done to your N7 but that just sounds ridiculous. I have a Galaxy S2 and have used that many ROMs & Kernels on it I care not to mention.
But still it has never even come close to the N7's stock experience, in fact the only thing I use my S2 for now is phone calls. This bad boy goes everywhere with me now tethered to my phone when I'm not at home.
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After a lot of trying I've found that my LWP scrool smooth on S2 but not on N7... maybe it's a code related question (about Mali driver?).
Comparing the speed of the excution of the various apps the N7 is greater, but regarding the smoothness of the UI the S2 is equal to N7 (maybe a little bit greater).
At this point I must say thanks to the developer of the S2 ROM and the "optimized Mali driver for project butter"?
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After a lot of trying I've found that my LWP scrool smooth on S2 but not on N7... maybe it's a code related question (about Mali driver?).
Comparing the speed of the excution of the various apps the N7 is greater, but regarding the smoothness of the UI the S2 is equal to N7 (maybe a little bit greater).
At this point I must say thanks to the developer of the S2 ROM and the "optimized Mali driver for project butter"?
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Is this an AOSP or touchwiz rom?
Because I remember codeworkx himself saying that the exynos S2 will never have full project butter and JB stuff because of all the closed source drivers and stuff samsung uses. He said that the OMAP version had a smoother UI, so I doubt it comes close to the N7. Unless you're using the omap version
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Is this an AOSP or touchwiz rom?
Because I remember codeworkx himself saying that the exynos S2 will never have full project butter and JB stuff because of all the closed source drivers and stuff samsung uses. He said that the OMAP version had a smoother UI, so I doubt it comes close to the N7. Unless you're using the omap version
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Mine is an AOSP ROM (based on CM10) so... I've been heard about OMAP, but I don't know what is on details...
My Samsung Galaxy Grand 2 uses 1.17GB RAM, my mobile becomes too slow, I was closed all of my applications after It will shows 996mb, every time my phone will become too slow.
Is there any apps for rooted devices to speed up tablet speed. Is there I can make memory bigger than a 1.5gb? I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 am t530nu