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No SuperUser prompt in (stock) ICS

I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (PT-7500R from Rogers), trying to root on the new official ICS.
I have followed the directions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239185
CWM installed and works fine. After applying "Samsung_Galaxy_Tab_10.1_root.zip" in CWM, I boot into Android, I see SuperUser in my app menu and can bring up its interface.
However, when I try to launch a su-required function (such as Reboot Recovery in ROM Manager), I don't get a prompt for SU permissions.
I have tried this with both OTA and manual (Odin3) installs of the official ICS from Rogers, from unrooted stock Honeycomb, several times.
I don't encounter this problem with stock Honeycomb... rooting that version appears to work fine.
I have experimented with some community builds, perhaps I have installed an incompatible kernel that needs replacing? I don't know, but any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
diggerB

diggerb said:
I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (PT-7500R from Rogers), trying to root on the new official ICS.
I have followed the directions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239185
CWM installed and works fine. "After applying Samsung_Galaxy_Tab_10.1_root.zip" in CWM, I boot into Android, I see SuperUser in my app menu and can bring up its interface.
However, when I try to launch a su-required function (such as Reboot Recovery in ROM Manager), I don't get a prompt for SU permissions.
I have tried this with both OTA and manual (Odin3) installs of the official ICS from Rogers, from unrooted stock Honeycomb, several times.
I don't encounter this problem with stock Honeycomb... rooting that version appears to work fine.
I have experimented with some community builds, perhaps I have installed an incompatible kernel that needs replacing? I don't know, but any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
diggerB
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Have you tried to see if superuser had an update in the market? I recommend to also make sure the binary is up to date in the superuser app.
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nakedninja42 said:
Have you tried to see if superuser had an update in the market? I recommend to also make sure the binary is up to date in the superuser app.
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Thank you for your reply.
I updated to the latest version in Play Store, it shows Binary v2.3.1-ef , update check shows latest version 3.1.1 but when I click Update, it fails on the step "Gaining root access..."
Cheers
diggerB

You're not rooted anymore. The superuser app is there but it can't do anything since the su is missing. You have to re-root.
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Tyxerakias said:
You're not rooted anymore. The superuser app is there but it can't do anything since the su is missing. You have to re-root.
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Thanks for the feedback... but I just went back into CWM and applied the root again, still in exactly the same boat.

Thanks to all, I found a solution in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31179418#post31179418
Superuser just didn't want to work. The SuperSU root method referred by the OP in that thread worked great. All is well again. Until next time of course.

Hi, if you go to "www.galaxytabhacks.com" you will find the solution, there is an upgrade to superuser.

Can I hide my Root status from an app permanently?

I need help guys. I'm currently rooted running ParinoiAndroid 3.00 and Franco Kernel #82. I'm trying to download the Good for Enterprise App from the Play Store and install for my work email, but the app won't install becasue of my Root status. Is there a way to hide the root status from this app at all times. I really don't want to unroot my phone.
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Not sure if this will work...
Go to SuperSU -> Settings.
There in Access, give default access as Deny
Then set up the whole Good for Enterprise thing
Then once the setup is done, set default access as Prompt again.

rhoadster91 said:
Not sure if this will work...
Go to SuperSU -> Settings.
There in Access, give default access as Deny
Then set up the whole Good for Enterprise thing
Then once the setup is done, set default access as Prompt again.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I gave it a try and it didn't work.
Any other ideas????

Unroot. Install. Re-root. ?
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chrisrozon said:
Unroot. Install. Re-root. ?
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I do not think unrooting 4.2.2 is wise. I heard 4.2.1 rooting techniques do not work for 4.2.2.
Gjohnson7771 said:
Any other ideas????
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Umm... nothing I can think of right now... If you have a spare device you can unroot that, install it on that device, setup your phone, root it, copy its data from /data/data and then restore it in your Nexus 4 Long shot.

rhoadster91 said:
I do not think unrooting 4.2.2 is wise. I heard 4.2.1 rooting techniques do not work for 4.2.2.
Umm... nothing I can think of right now... If you have a spare device you can unroot that, install it on that device, setup your phone, root it, copy its data from /data/data and then restore it in your Nexus 4 Long shot.
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Ok, that's not good. I guess I will need to do more research on unrooting 4.2.2.
And no this is my only device. I have a couple of old Iphones but that won't do me any good. Oh and if I was to unroot it and install the software, wouldn't the device be wiped when I re-root it and flash a custom ROM?

Gjohnson7771 said:
Oh and if I was to unroot it and install the software, wouldn't the device be wiped when I re-root it and flash a custom ROM?
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After re-rooting it, backup the data using Titanium. Then flash custom ROM and restore App + data.

rhoadster91 said:
After re-rooting it, backup the data using Titanium. Then flash custom ROM and restore App + data.
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I'm not sure if you would know this answer or not, but in an app like Good Enterprise does it normally just search for root status upon initial install or does it look for the root status periodically.
Also, I had plans to unroot using the SuperSU "Full unroot" option or even the Nexus 4 tool kit. Are either one of these methods the unroot techniques you were referring too? I really don't want to brick my device if its unwise to unroot.

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Gjohnson7771 said:
I'm not sure if you would know this answer or not, but in an app like Good Enterprise does it normally just search for root status upon initial install or does it look for the root status periodically.
Also, I had plans to unroot using the SuperSU "Full unroot" option or even the Nexus 4 tool kit. Are either one of these methods the unroot techniques you were referring too? I really don't want to brick my device if its unwise to unroot.
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I would have tried to check it myself first before suggesting you the solution (I had even downloaded the app) but turns out setting up Good Enterprise requires more than just downloading and installing it. I am not sure if it checks the root status periodically but in this case looks like the only option we have is to hope that it checks only during initiation. However, if the app is any good, I think it will check root status periodically to maintain security (because a lot of app information is compromised on a rooted phone)
Also, I do not think you will brick your phone if u attempt to root 4.2.2. Simply rebooting it in fastboot mode will give you option to revert to stock even in the worst situations. Still, cannot rule out the risk.
Anyway, a simple Google Search revealed this which could be a potential solution

Well thanks for all the info. I'll see what I can figure out.

Un rooting is quite simple , nothing to worry about!
By the way, Good permissions can be set by your administrator. They have the option to allow root, to check every time, Or to check once. It all depends on how your company configures it.
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Well, I was able to use nexus 4 toolkit to uproot and relock the boot loader. The app install fine after that and is working properly.
Thanks for the replies. For some reason I was thinking I would have to return the phone back to stock to uproot it, I'm glad I was able to keep my custom ROM and kernel. 1 more question, was re-locking the boot loader necessary or could I have kept it unlocked?

voodoo ota root keeper has a temporary unroot option, grab it from the playstore , much easier than unrooting your phone, also root survives an ota from google. You probably could have left the bootloader unlocked.

easy way ??
An easy way to hide root is renaming the superuser app/apps in the below location.
/system/app
This method did the charm for me for few apps. But the disadvantage is, it will hide root for all apps..

Workaround
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163 - thread talking about workaround for GFE

[Q] Rooted, now cant access google play.

I rooted and now cant access the google app store and my weatherbug elite seems to not be loading. What can I do?

douggiephresh said:
I rooted and now cant access the google app store and my weatherbug elite seems to not be loading. What can I do?
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Please link to the root guide you followed. After you rooted did you do anything else to the phone? You can try downloading the .apk file for the google play store. There are guides online to install .apk files manually.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/04/25/download-latest-google-play-store-4-0-27/

I used the motochopper method. I have since installed titanium backup pro but I had this problem before installing that.

douggiephresh said:
I used the motochopper method. I have since installed titanium backup pro but I had this problem before installing that.
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You may want to try restoring to factory with Kies and trying again.

Having already rooted wont effect a factory reset? Have you rooted your S4 using the same method?

I am actually restoring my rooted phone with Kies right now. I can confirm after its done that there weren't any issues. There is a disclaimer in Kies saying there may be issues if your phone is rooted.

Where did you find that option in kies?

douggiephresh said:
Where did you find that option in kies?
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With your phone plugged in go to Tools > Upgrade firmware
And mine just finished successfully.

Remember you can delete busybox and su in your system directory to unroot your phone before you system restore in Kies.

Relys said:
Remember you can delete busybox and su in your system directory to unroot your phone before you system restore in Kies.
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Thanks for the tip, didn't know that.

RandomHandle said:
Thanks for the tip, didn't know that.
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Here's the source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257058
I personally testing it and it works. The method to return the status from "Custom" to "Official" while keeping root was very nice.

Can't get root access?

I just tried getting root access via this guide using Odin, but although I've already updated the firmware first, it just doesn't take. It installs the superSU app, but not the binary it seems. Any idea where I can get it from? I also tried superuser instead, which allows me to get an up to date binary, but when it then tries to install the binary it fails.
Here's the guide I followed:
http://m.ibtimes.co.uk/galaxys4-gti9505-official-android422-xxuadmn-jellybean-firmware-464478.html

Any ideas?

XXUAMDM Root not possible?
Hi,
have done the same, tried to root the I9505 XXUAMDM (European LTE model) - there was no SU installed.
Therefore I installed the SuperSU from the market and checked, but it says that the SU Binaries are missing...
So what went wrong with rooting? Any suggestions
BTW: After the start of Titanium Backup the window asking about root for the app appeared.
Now starting Super SU I can see Titanium in the list, but short after start the mentioned "SU-Binary missing" window appears...

jochenthomas said:
Hi,
have done the same, tried to root the I9505 XXUAMDM (European LTE model) - there was no SU installed.
Therefore I installed the SuperSU from the market and checked, but it says that the SU Binaries are missing...
So what went wrong with rooting? Any suggestions
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Exactly the same as me, the update went fine, the rooting seemed to go fine too, but the binary is supposedly missing.

Just been pointed to this thread, which works a treat:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190&nocache=1
It seems the method we used isn't compatible with the MDM and MDN firmware updates, so need to use a modified version of CF auto root instead. In that thread it also shows you how to reset the flash counter too! Result!

StuartTheFish said:
I just tried getting root access via this guide using Odin, but although I've already updated the firmware first, it just doesn't take. It installs the superSU app, but not the binary it seems. Any idea where I can get it from? I also tried superuser instead, which allows me to get an up to date binary, but when it then tries to install the binary it fails.
Here's the guide I followed:
http://m.ibtimes.co.uk/galaxys4-gti9505-official-android422-xxuadmn-jellybean-firmware-464478.html
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I know your sorted ow but out of interest before were you using steps outlined here when it didn't work on mdm
http://androidjinn.com/root-xxuamdm-android-4-2-2-on-galaxy-s4-i9505-official-firmware.html/2
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topcat07 said:
I know your sorted ow but out of interest before were you using steps outlined here when it didn't work on mdm
http://androidjinn.com/root-xxuamdm-android-4-2-2-on-galaxy-s4-i9505-official-firmware.html/2
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Different guide, but same method. We simply needed a modified file t work on the newer firmware.

StuartTheFish said:
Different guide, but same method. We simply needed a modified file t work on the newer firmware.
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Strange someone has got it working with normal file
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topcat07 said:
Strange someone has got it working with normal file
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Pass, don't know! All I do know is the regular cf auto root didn't work for me on this firmware, but the modified one did.

StuartTheFish said:
Just been pointed to this thread, which works a treat:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190&nocache=1
It seems the method we used isn't compatible with the MDM and MDN firmware updates, so need to use a modified version of CF auto root instead. In that thread it also shows you how to reset the flash counter too! Result!
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OMFG I have googled and torn my hair our for hours and hours as I just could not get root on my MDM S4 using the methods detailed on this site, this modified file rooted it straight away with no problems. It REALLY needs to be shouted a bit louder lol !
Thanks all.

this doesnt work for i9500
this kernel does not root i9500.
anyway i have a different problem and its about bluetooth. is this the proper place or should i search elsewhere?

No, there's a different method to rooting for a gt19500.

Thanks

[Q] (Root not happening) S4 i9500 {4.3 - I9500XXUEMJ8} {CSC - INU} {How to root now?}

Hello developers.
I'm trying to reroot my phone after the latest 4.3 update via ODIN for my Indian handset.
I'm trying using CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and the it says PASS and the phone restarts normally as it should but the root is simply not happening.
there were 2 android 4.3 updates for my device and i installed the latest (you can see the post title for the exact version)
after everything completed properly i simply tried CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and nothing is happening.
Till 4.2.2, it got rooted properly without such or any other problems.
Kindly assist me out in getting my phone rooted.
Regards.

Here too
avineshwar said:
Hello developers.
I'm trying to reroot my phone after the latest 4.3 update via ODIN for my Indian handset.
I'm trying using CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and the it says PASS and the phone restarts normally as it should but the root is simply not happening.
there were 2 android 4.3 updates for my device and i installed the latest (you can see the post title for the exact version)
after everything completed properly i simply tried CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and nothing is happening.
Till 4.2.2, it got rooted properly without such or any other problems.
Kindly assist me out in getting my phone rooted.
Regards.
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Yep, I can´t re-root it again it seems the CF-Auto-Root-ja3g-ja3gxx-gti9500.tar its not working for the i9500XXUEMJ8 versión, well time to wait to an updated CF-Auto Root :crying::crying::crying:

I9500XXUEMJ5 root working (almost working)... i cant run some app, without root all apps working great ;/

Weird. I rooted using CF Auto Root after flashing 4.3 MJ8, it always worked! I never did OTA update though, always used Odin and full wipe.

avineshwar said:
Hello developers.
I'm trying to reroot my phone after the latest 4.3 update via ODIN for my Indian handset.
I'm trying using CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and the it says PASS and the phone restarts normally as it should but the root is simply not happening.
there were 2 android 4.3 updates for my device and i installed the latest (you can see the post title for the exact version)
after everything completed properly i simply tried CF-AutoRoot via ODIN and nothing is happening.
Till 4.2.2, it got rooted properly without such or any other problems.
Kindly assist me out in getting my phone rooted.
Regards.
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The rooting worked so far for me. Have you enabled KNOX? They enhanced the security features and as far as I heard KNOX-enabled devices can't get full root. Verify whether it is enabled or not. I'm not sure whether the user enables it or not but that may be the reason. I'm also not sure whether this KNOX security really affects I9500 models. I9505 models are definitely affected.

jujuburi said:
Weird. I rooted using CF Auto Root after flashing 4.3 MJ8, it always worked! I never did OTA update though, always used Odin and full wipe.
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Probably I never full wiped.
The apps and all other data is retained (normally all is retained when we update rom via odin).
Factory reset (full wipe) was never required earlier to get root to work.
Knox is not on from my side though I get some notifications always that some app tried to access something and Knox blocked that. But I guess that is something else because we need to manually activate Knox after opening the Knox app.
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kci83 said:
I9500XXUEMJ5 root working (almost working)... i cant run some app, without root all apps working great ;/
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It did worked for me too but only at times.
When I updated rom switcher app, root was gone and it never happened again!
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anyone with any solution for this?
anyone with any solution for this?

Solved!
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what was the solution? did you need to do a fullwipe? or used another method for rooting?
im on 4.2.2 MG9 and would like to update to 4.3 and have root without the know issue.
thanks.

Backup and Factory reset and cache clear after updating to 4.3
Then you'll get stock Samsung 4.3
Follow the same method to root (auto root) or alternatively flash super su via cwm/twrp/stock recovery.
resitm said:
what was the solution? did you need to do a fullwipe? or used another method for rooting?
im on 4.2.2 MG9 and would like to update to 4.3 and have root without the know issue.
thanks.
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avineshwar said:
Backup and Factory reset and cache clear after updating to 4.3
Then you'll get stock Samsung 4.3
Follow the same method to root (auto root) or alternatively flash super su via cwm/twrp/stock recovery.
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Thank you. Will this trip the knox thing?

After using CF-AUto root you need to update Super SU App on first boot.
Then Open SuperSU app and choose to install SU Binary without using a custom recovery.
Then reboot.
Then install Titanium backup pro and use it to free all Knox related files.
There are 7 of them and you need to remove all of them.
Remember you need to install a custom recovery to install busybox. (atleast in my case)
Install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2489234 via ODIN.
Once you are on custom recovery.
Use busybox installer to install busybox.
reboot.
You are done.

resitm said:
Thank you. Will this trip the knox thing?
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No mate.
Wait for a future update to trip that.
In the mean time, I'm trying to trip that since it isn't very difficult just lazy to try everything since everytime 1 thing fails, I need to restore the whole data and if takes much of my bandwidth.
Hope you understand.
And the device status will also remain custom.

P.S. Touchwiz UI from Samsung will hang on a later date due to some app compatibility issue (I'm not sure which app but I can tell a large set of apps and it will hang due to any one from that list) so it is preferred to shift to some other launcher on pre hand.
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thank you both avineshwar and ajhavery.
i really wanted to update but i guess i am going to wait for a while. lots of issues seem to be happening once rooted. also dont want to lose warranty with the knox thing.
it seems the custom roms such as arrow and crash also have sound issues, FC issues on some apps.
i guess ill wait and see. maybe once the nexus 5 is out i can sell the i9500 and get the nexus 5.

resitm said:
thank you both avineshwar and ajhavery.
i really wanted to update but i guess i am going to wait for a while. lots of issues seem to be happening once rooted. also dont want to lose warranty with the knox thing.
it seems the custom roms such as arrow and crash also have sound issues, FC issues on some apps.
i guess ill wait and see. maybe once the nexus 5 is out i can sell the i9500 and get the nexus 5.
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Waiting is good.
Don't sell your phone though (for obvious reasons).
You've got much to explore.
When it comes to selling, you'll get money whenever you do that so keep that option as your last bet.
Custom roms aren't really preferred from my side until you are a die hard modification fan!.
Rooting is the only problem (which is solved now I guess) on the latest firmware.
Rooting won't do any problem, believe me (except warranty).
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avineshwar said:
Waiting is good.
Don't sell your phone though (for obvious reasons).
You've got much to explore.
When it comes to selling, you'll get money whenever you do that so keep that option as your last bet.
Custom roms aren't really preferred from my side until you are a die hard modification fan!.
Rooting is the only problem (which is solved now I guess) on the latest firmware.
Rooting won't do any problem, believe me (except warranty).
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hello again, i am asking this question because i cant post in the development forum yet.
i downloaded 3 files from the OP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
the PDA, CSC and modem. all for MJ8, downloaded PDA is odex.
when i flashed 3 of the files with ODIN like shown in op my device. After i restarted i got errors for Unfortunately, the process com.google.process.gapps .
i searched on google and did what was suggested, like clearing dalvik cache, resetting default apps, uninstalling the play store update etc.
the phone was unusable, the errors popedup every second.
I had to go back to the MG9 4.2.2 firmware.
What did i do wrong?
have you guys tried the method mentioned in the post. it prerooted and knox free 4.3 firmware.

resitm said:
hello again, i am asking this question because i cant post in the development forum yet.
i downloaded 3 files from the OP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
the PDA, CSC and modem. all for MJ8, downloaded PDA is odex.
when i flashed 3 of the files with ODIN like shown in op my device. After i restarted i got errors for Unfortunately, the process com.google.process.gapps .
i searched on google and did what was suggested, like clearing dalvik cache, resetting default apps, uninstalling the play store update etc.
the phone was unusable, the errors popedup every second.
I had to go back to the MG9 4.2.2 firmware.
What did i do wrong?
have you guys tried the method mentioned in the post. it prerooted and knox free 4.3 firmware.
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Probably you want to upgrade to 4.3?
If so goto sammobile.com and find the latest firmware for your device from there, download and flash the same via odin.
You're now on 4.3!
Once done you can root from the auto root method by chain fire.
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avineshwar said:
Probably you want to upgrade to 4.3?
If so goto sammobile.com and find the latest firmware for your device from there, download and flash the same via odin.
You're now on 4.3!
Once done you can root from the auto root method by chain fire.
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that would be the easiest and best solution but i am worried about the knox issue, losing the warranty and also having to sell the phone later on for a lower price.