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Phone freezing

Hi,
I have a big problem with my Tytn (sorry if this is already been posted). Quite often the phone freezes, making it impossible to turn on again. The only thing that works is a soft-reset. What is worse, is that when the phone is in this state, although the green light is regularly flashing, it is unable to get phone calls even if the caller gets the normal ringing signal. No trace is left of the call, neither in calls list! This is a really serious issue: please, let me know if you have an idea of how to solve the problem.
Thanks!

I am having the same issue. I haven't been able to isolate it. I was havign to0 restart 1-2 times a day. Same systems press the power button nothing. Lights blinking everything looks ok. but nothing on the screen. and i miss calls. really pain in the ass. I loaded mobile secretary and it hasn;t locked in a day or two which is odd.
I also sometimes have to rpess the power button two times for it to wake

me too
It's happening to me too. I will lose service and the phone doesn't go out and poll automatically when service should be good. It may show 1, 2, 3 bars then when I try to make a call it hangs, and then get an x and a Y!, then searches for service. I have the GSM only hack installed and the activesync workaround and it still does this. It is not useable as a phone.

do a search in this forum.
one relevant thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285974

With all due respect, there is no solution where the link leads to.
I am having the GSM problem also. Just from time to time I am noticing an exclamation mark near the 'antennae' icon in the top bar. When I tap it, I read 'Service unavailable' in the balloon. From that point I may either soft-reset, or switch GSM flight mode on and off, which brings the PIN code keyboard and the phone works again.
I really don't think it is related to power saving, as it happened a few times in the car with TyTN on external power.

mnez said:
With all due respect, there is no solution where the link leads to.
I am having the GSM problem also. Just from time to time I am noticing an exclamation mark near the 'antennae' icon in the top bar. When I tap it, I read 'Service unavailable' in the balloon. From that point I may either soft-reset, or switch GSM flight mode on and off, which brings the PIN code keyboard and the phone works again.
I really don't think it is related to power saving, as it happened a few times in the car with TyTN on external power.
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I think warmkiwi's link may be relevant to jimwormold's original post, which may not be related to your and angled1's problem of failing to poll correctly after dropping it's signal.
Mike

yes, it was. sorry, i should have quoted the original author (jimwormold)

well, sorry for being so picky on you :|
Now when we have defragmented the conversation I wonder if the GSM problem is reported more widely? and what is supposed to do in order to isolate the problem and fix it...?

jimwormold said:
Quite often the phone freezes, making it impossible to turn on again. The only thing that works is a soft-reset. What is worse, is that when the phone is in this state, although the green light is regularly flashing, it is unable to get phone calls
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Sorry to do a "me too" posting, but I experience the exact same symptoms. There is no obvious pattern to when this happens, but it is a major problem, as there is no way (other than trying to switch it on) to distinguish whether the phone is working or not at any given moment.
I am running the latest (South African) ROM on my Vario II.

Philip said:
Sorry to do a "me too" posting, but I experience the exact same symptoms. There is no obvious pattern to when this happens, but it is a major problem, as there is no way (other than trying to switch it on) to distinguish whether the phone is working or not at any given moment.
I am running the latest (South African) ROM on my Vario II.
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Given this thread now appears to have two distinct issues running together I better be clear that I am referring to the lock-up/freezing issue not the dropped GSM signal issue!!
To be honest there are quite a few possible causes for the freezing issue(s). I would suggest searches and the wiki on such things as (and you may or may not have tried some already):
1. Use of a Task Manager to properly shut running programmes otherwise they contiue to run in the background
2. Proper shutting down of Active Sync in addition to any task manager you may have, as it can re-start itself automatically (particularly overnight. Look for the "Fake Server Trick")
3. Always shut down Wifi when not in use (vital particularly overnight but also good practice to avoid lock ups)
4 For overnight and possibly other quiet times you can consider having your device automatically perform a soft reset to clear any running programmes that may block alarms/receipt of mail etc. Look for such things as xbar or SK schema
Mike

mikechannon said:
Given this thread now appears to have two distinct issues running together I better be clear that I am referring to the lock-up/freezing issue not the dropped GSM signal issue!!
1. Use of a Task Manager to properly shut running programmes otherwise they contiue to run in the background
2. Proper shutting down of Active Sync in addition to any task manager you may have, as it can re-start itself automatically (particularly overnight. Look for the "Fake Server Trick")
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Yes indeed, although I think that both: a Phone App problem, and a GSM signal problem, are indeed the same, maybe only differently percepted and described by users affected.
I need ActiveSync to be running in order for DirectPush to work. If it conflicts with the phone, it makes the device unusable concerning push email functionality.

mnez said:
Yes indeed, although I think that both: a Phone App problem, and a GSM signal problem, are indeed the same, maybe only differently percepted and described by users affected.
I need ActiveSync to be running in order to DirectPush work. If it conflicts with the phone, it makes the device unusable concerning push email functionality.
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I agree they may be cause and effect for some folks. Although I don't believe we can say that all the freezing and lock-ups are due to dropped GSM signal and freezing when failing to re-establish it. The items I list either taken together or individually have been found by others to work in some cases.
I appreciate that if you require Active Sync running then this is not a solution for you. I think the issue of crashing on loss of signal requires more analysis and I'm not aware of much discussion of it - though I could be wrong!!
Mike

I was fiddling with the phone yesterday and today, and I have a hypothesis that my problem is related to PIN entry screen that won't pop up but is silently awaiting a PIN underneath.
I was trying to ucheck the "Require PIN when phone is used" box in Settings but with no luck, my PIN is then refused with "Unknown SIM Error" message. Maybe it wants a PUK but I don't have it on hand to try.
My plan now is to:
- uninstall all Phone-related applications (PhonePlus, Dark_Blue Buttons, EZDial),
- request PUK from my office and try to uncheck the box,
- try prepaid SIM card which has no PIN
To observe symptoms I need two-three days, so I will rather not be posting until solid data is collected.
ps Mike, it is a pleasure to be on a board with people like you.

mnez said:
I was fiddling with the phone yesterday and today, and I have a hypothesis that my problem is related to PIN entry screen that won't pop up but is silently awaiting a PIN underneath.
I was trying to ucheck the "Require PIN when phone is used" box in Settings but with no luck, my PIN is then refused with "Unknown SIM Error" message. Maybe it wants a PUK but I don't have it on hand to try.
My plan now is to:
- uninstall all Phone-related applications (PhonePlus, Dark_Blue Buttons, EZDial),
- request PUK from my office and try to uncheck the box,
- try prepaid SIM card which has no PIN
To observe symptoms I need two-three days, so I will rather not be posting until solid data is collected.
ps Mike, it is a pleasure to be on a board with people like you.
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Very kind of you to say so
Look forward to seeing your findings.
Mike

new phone
I'm on day 2 of my replacement phone from Cingular and the problem with losing gsm signal is non existent. The problem was hardware and fixed by calling and getting a warranty replacement phone. I'll let you know if the problem returns. Oh, and I have not been using the gsm only hack. I'm trying to see if the phone will work as designed first.

angled1 said:
I'm on day 2 of my replacement phone from Cingular and the problem with losing gsm signal is non existent. The problem was hardware and fixed by calling and getting a warranty replacement phone. I'll let you know if the problem returns. Oh, and I have not been using the gsm only hack. I'm trying to see if the phone will work as designed first.
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Good news - hope it continues to work well.
Mike

I am reporting from the test field that my problem persists, despite uninstalling all phone-related extenders.
I have noticed that freezing is paired with disabling Bluetooth. So after switching the phone off (flight mode on) and back on (flight mode off), I also have to turn on Bluetooth.
EDIT: I was grounded for last few days at home and freezing problem was not occuring. I am now thinking that it may be related to switching band between GPRS and UMTS. My next step will be disabling UMTS for good. It saves a whole lotta battery, by the way. I am for the third day mostly on standby, with a few calls made, and I am still on 70%! (no 3G in the area)
I have contacted my vendor and asked about replacement policy, they are "checking this with the importer". It's a beauty of living in not-so-western country. Poland is the name.

mnez said:
EDIT: I was grounded for last few days at home and freezing problem was not occuring. I am now thinking that it may be related to switching band between GPRS and UMTS. My next step will be disabling UMTS for good. It saves a whole lotta battery, by the way. I am for the third day mostly on standby, with a few calls made, and I am still on 70%! (no 3G in the area)
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I'm having exactly the same problem, very annoying because the staus LEDs keep blinking as normal. I too think the problem is UMST-GPRS switching related, as I also have problems when phoning while I drive with my car from a UMTS enabled into a GPRS only zone. The voice call is interupted and I get a loud noise, sounding like a scrambled voice, on both sides of the connection. At home my UMTS signal is very weak, so I think it happens when I move around the house to a place where the TyTN switches to GPRS.
I've put my TyTN to "GSM network" only now to see if this helps, but I use UMTS frequently so this is no long term solution for me.
pbw

same problem here, only gsm wil not help, new sim cards wont help either even other provider wont help
check: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287669
treid several different roms nothing will help
good luck

Hi,
mine was siffering of freezing issue, I sent a mail to HTC support, they don't know about it but the guy said me that I must to hard reset my device. Then no more freezes, I will keep testing it.
Regards,
Taguapire.
BTW: I changed my old and almost destroyed SIM card by a new one.

MB526 (random) reboots, fix?

Hi, i have problems with random reboots its really annoying.
Some roboots arent random - when i recieve/send sms phone reboots almost everytime or when someone calls me its the same - reboot.
Any fix for this?
Thx
I have Defy+ (MB526), 2.3.6 android, 2.6.32.9-gbdd614e kernel, stock ROM

try wipe or flash other sbf that you can flash

Don't flash anything, if it persists after a wipe, send it back
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Someone on this forum reported rebooting issues caused by a slightly shorter than spec battery (actually a few people as I recall). When the phone was moved it often rebooted and the fix was to add a single piece of electrical tape to the end opposite contacts. May be worth a try.

Switch to 2g and mobile data off then see if it reboots.
Might be this-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21237004#post21237004

Ok, thanks for the answers, flashing doesnt work Ive tried it many times..
Ive just tried 2G and electrical tape, hope it will work

A few causes might possibly be the answer.
1) firstly confirmed the rom by playing the overclock settings. Some rom having too low on voltage or frequency setting. Or the rom itself is not stable. Flashing another rom is only way to confimed this.
2) Battery might have factory defect, use battery monitor widget to monitor the voltages/current of the battery consumption. change battery(borrow from friend) to see if the reboot still happen.
3) Check battery connection on the phone. Make sure no loose around it.
4) If all the above still causes the random reboots. you can return it back to the shop to repair the handset.

seems switching to 2G helped, no reboot since switch, thanks

This is the same problem I had with my Defy+
It used to reboot randomly for no reason even when siting on a desk doing nothing
all of a sudden i would hear a notification to say the sd card was loaded informing me it was rebooted.
When it does decide to reboot it can do up to 4 or 5 reboots continuously
I sent it back and got a new one.
The new one does the same thing but very rarely
maybe once every month or 2 months
I have posted about this on the Motorola Forums and There are other people with the exact same problem as us.
One of them mentioned they had to send their phone bak to Motorola and they replaced the main board and will get back to say how it went.
But since then no answer and Motorola changed their forums
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/4e8655afee

mine is not rebooting anymore

Splashik said:
mine is not rebooting anymore
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Can you confirm if it's 2G or tape?

I purchased Defy+ 20 days ago with exactly same configuration as the one described in the beginning of this thread. Phone reboots at random when I am in the middle of conversation, or while accessing data through mobile network or while present in areas with extremely low single. I tried using a new SIM, checked loose ends (if any) of the battery i.e. stuck a 1 layer of tape on one end, also switched to 2G. The phone continues to reboot especially when I access internet on mobile network, and also booted once while I am in a call.
Unfortunately the customer service in India (any company) would be pathetic so I'm not hopeful in having Motorola fix the problem if I take the piece to their support centers...
Narasimha

Narashima,
I have heard of Defy going crazy when trying to access data in an area where the data signal is weak and goes in and out. Can you confirm you are getting reboots if you turn data OFF? Not sure how your phone is configured, but I mean even cut off 2G.

[Q] Moto Defy + call drop straight after dial while in 3G.

The minute I turn on my 3g any normal voice calls made from my phone gets disconnected within a second.
If I switch to Wifi / 2g the issue is solved!
I have tried Settings - Call Settings - Additional settings - Caller ID but the option of caller id itself is unselectable!! I have read many people saying to select caller ID and set network default fixing the problem but on my phone it is unselectable!
Please advice on how I can fix this problem! Thank you

Facing exactly the same probelm
Dark Prince X said:
The minute I turn on my 3g any normal voice calls made from my phone gets disconnected within a second.
If I switch to Wifi / 2g the issue is solved!
I have tried Settings - Call Settings - Additional settings - Caller ID but the option of caller id itself is unselectable!! I have read many people saying to select caller ID and set network default fixing the problem but on my phone it is unselectable!
Please advice on how I can fix this problem! Thank you
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Even i am facing exactly the same problem. Any help to fix this would be greatly appreciated. I think this has started after updating the software.
Dark Prince - Did you too update the software from 2.1 to 2.2 before this problem started?

Any relief for this problem pls?
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Not solved.
mrsukesh said:
Even i am facing exactly the same problem. Any help to fix this would be greatly appreciated. I think this has started after updating the software.
Dark Prince - Did you too update the software from 2.1 to 2.2 before this problem started?
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No I am running stock 2.3.6 and havent done any updates since I got my phone 6 months back! The problem is still not resolved!
I beleive it is a problem with my carrier Airtel as they say that there is 3g upgradation going on in my area. But I still face this problem all around Bangalore!! I cant understand what is the major cause of this problem! I have used my sim in my friends Sony Ericsson Arc and there is no issue whatsoever! Im still waiting for a solution. Please lemme know if you find anything as well! Tx

I don't think its a problem with airtel because I'm facing this problem with vodafone, I m facing the same problem with airtel sim also in the same handset however same sims are working fine with other handsets.
Initially vodafone told it might be a problem in their network but after checking they confirmed that there is no issue with their network.
I feel its an issue with phone itself but know its related to hardware or software. Factory reset also didn't work, tried all possible ways that I could think of including replacing sim but no lucktill now.
I took phone to motorola service too, all they could suggest was to replace sim and factory reset which I've already done, only solution left is to give the phone for checking and they need 2 days to check if any fault is there.
Did your phone always had this problem or started recently? Do u remember making any settings in phone before this problem started?
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This problem was recent.
mrsukesh said:
I don't think its a problem with airtel because I'm facing this problem with vodafone, I m facing the same problem with airtel sim also in the same handset however same sims are working fine with other handsets.
Initially vodafone told it might be a problem in their network but after checking they confirmed that there is no issue with their network.
I feel its an issue with phone itself but know its related to hardware or software. Factory reset also didn't work, tried all possible ways that I could think of including replacing sim but no lucktill now.
I took phone to motorola service too, all they could suggest was to replace sim and factory reset which I've already done, only solution left is to give the phone for checking and they need 2 days to check if any fault is there.
Did your phone always had this problem or started recently? Do u remember making any settings in phone before this problem started?
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You're right.. I guessed the same! Well this phone has been giving me this problem since January of this yr. Before that it was perfect! I cant remember making any changes in the settings. I have also done a factory reset but the issue isnt solved. I cant understand what to do now?! this really is getting irritating cause every time i have to make a call i switch off the Data using toggles widget and turn on again once done. I cant do this forever. Even the calls which I get from someone else gets cut in a second and appears as a missed call. I desperately need someone to suggest a cure for this!
Do let me know if you have made any setting changes recently . I ll try to remember if there is any common changes we have made and try to find a solution for this.

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Dark Prince X said:
You're right.. I guessed the same! Well this phone has been giving me this problem since January of this yr. Before that it was perfect! I cant remember making any changes in the settings. I have also done a factory reset but the issue isnt solved. I cant understand what to do now?! this really is getting irritating cause every time i have to make a call i switch off the Data using toggles widget and turn on again once done. I cant do this forever. Even the calls which I get from someone else gets cut in a second and appears as a missed call. I desperately need someone to suggest a cure for this!
Do let me know if you have made any setting changes recently . I ll try to remember if there is any common changes we have made and try to find a solution for this.
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I also want to state that when my 3g was on before the issue began it used to be displayed as H - meaning high speed internet. Since the day I ve been facing this problem the H symbol changes to 3G - once this transition takes place immediately call gets dropped. I ve never seen the 3G being displayed before the problem.
Question: Does the 3G have to be switched off automatically once a call is made? Like for eg. if you re connected on wifi, even when you are in a call the wifi is still on and active in the background.
Is the 3G supposed to switch off automatically once a call is made just like it does when in 2g??

Some of the things I remember which happened before this problem started are:
1) I updated the firmware.
2) I kept a heavy bag on my phone by mistake.
3) I changed the phone's battery, I'm now using the an extended battery bought from eBay.
4) I changed the screen guard, using a matte finish guard now. (wondering if the solvents that they use while fixing the screen guard have any impact on this)
5) I started using the application Team Viewer a lot to operate my home laptop from office.
I've mentioned everything that I could think of, is any of this matching with you?
Its was a very good handset till this problem started, I don't want to buy a new phone just to fix this problem.
One more thing I observed is that this problem has increased over time, initially when this came to my notice 50% of the calls got cut while using 3g, but now all calls are dropped while using 3g.
The calls - both incoming and outgoing are working fine even if 3g is on but no data is being transfered. Once the call is connected 3g works fine. The problem is only in starting/initiating the call while 3g data transfer is happening once the call is connected 3g is fine.
Regarding my usage:
I've been using this phone very roughly from past one n half year, I use it regularly to download using both wi fi n 3g, I listen to music everyday using bluetooth n also watch many movies on my phone itself.
In short usage is very high n rough.
Could it be a wear n tear damage because of this?
Pls let me know if any of the mentioned points match with you which will help us locate the reason for the problem.
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No matches!
Dark Prince X said:
You're right.. I guessed the same! Well this phone has been giving me this problem since January of this yr. Before that it was perfect! I cant remember making any changes in the settings. I have also done a factory reset but the issue isnt solved. I cant understand what to do now?! this really is getting irritating cause every time i have to make a call i switch off the Data using toggles widget and turn on again once done. I cant do this forever. Even the calls which I get from someone else gets cut in a second and appears as a missed call. I desperately need someone to suggest a cure for this!
Do let me know if you have made any setting changes recently . I ll try to remember if there is any common changes we have made and try to find a solution for this.
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mrsukesh said:
Some of the things I remember which happened before this problem started are:
1) I updated the firmware.
2) I kept a heavy bag on my phone by mistake.
3) I changed the phone's battery, I'm now using the an extended battery bought from eBay.
4) I changed the screen guard, using a matte finish guard now. (wondering if the solvents that they use while fixing the screen guard have any impact on this)
5) I started using the application Team Viewer a lot to operate my home laptop from office.
I've mentioned everything that I could think of, is any of this matching with you?
Its was a very good handset till this problem started, I don't want to buy a new phone just to fix this problem.
One more thing I observed is that this problem has increased over time, initially when this came to my notice 50% of the calls got cut while using 3g, but now all calls are dropped while using 3g.
The calls - both incoming and outgoing are working fine even if 3g is on but no data is being transfered. Once the call is connected 3g works fine. The problem is only in starting/initiating the call while 3g data transfer is happening once the call is connected 3g is fine.
Regarding my usage:
I've been using this phone very roughly from past one n half year, I use it regularly to download using both wi fi n 3g, I listen to music everyday using bluetooth n also watch many movies on my phone itself.
In short usage is very high n rough.
Could it be a wear n tear damage because of this?
Pls let me know if any of the mentioned points match with you which will help us locate the reason for the problem.
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Well Sry but nothing in common! For me since the beginning of the problem, 100% of the calls are getting dropped! its been a month now. Do you face this problem in a specific area or all over town? Ive searched a lotta forums for an answer but to no avail! I dont know if rooting the phone will help!?!?! but that is my next step. Did you try going to Settings<Wifi and Networks<Mobile networks and selecting 3G only? FOr me the problem persists but i guess you should try this.

Hmm, problem is all over the town.
I've also selected 3g only in settings.
Even I'm thinking of rooting my phone but I'm afraid I'll brick my phone.
How are you planning to root your phone?
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I guess we have 2 probs in common!
mrsukesh said:
Hmm, problem is all over the town.
I've also selected 3g only in settings.
Even I'm thinking of rooting my phone but I'm afraid I'll brick my phone.
How are you planning to root your phone?
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I ve posted on a forum for rooting advice as well! Still confused on which procedure to follow. The cm10 JB from Quarx sounds promising but only for defy MB525! Lucky you. I still have to wait for the MB526 which is not yet stable!

Thanks, can you pls provide the link to the page where step by step rooting instructions have been provided..
Do let me know if you come across any solution or workaround for this problem, I'll also update you if I get any..
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Root
mrsukesh said:
Thanks, can you pls provide the link to the page where step by step rooting instructions have been provided..
Do let me know if you come across any solution or workaround for this problem, I'll also update you if I get any..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
This link seems to be the best method based on comments but I dont know how to.

Phone given for Service!
Dark Prince X said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
This link seems to be the best method based on comments but I dont know how to.
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Ive given my phone for service today. Hope I ll get my phone fixed!

Great, let me know if its fixed. I'll also get it done.
Rooting seems to be complicated, didn't do it as I'm afraid of briking my phone.
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Still in service
mrsukesh said:
Great, let me know if its fixed. I'll also get it done.
Rooting seems to be complicated, didn't do it as I'm afraid of briking my phone.
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I gave my phone for service yest and I am expecting it tomorrow in the evening. Will Keep you posted on the update.

Same problem
I am EXACTLY facing the same problem. I have an AirTel sim and I don't remember from this problem got started. I tried restoring factory setting, flashing the phone in authorized service center and nothing helped. I was about to install custom ROM and just read this thread in the forum. I will wait for some more time to see if any of you is lucky enough to find a solution for it.
As a temporary workaround, I have changed the GPRS to 2G and its working now. In 3G, if I try making calls, the data connectivity will not be cancelled, but in 2G, as soon as you hit the green button, the data will be cancelled.
Please reply if you find any solution for it. Thank you!

Solved!
Noob-New said:
I am EXACTLY facing the same problem. I have an AirTel sim and I don't remember from this problem got started. I tried restoring factory setting, flashing the phone in authorized service center and nothing helped. I was about to install custom ROM and just read this thread in the forum. I will wait for some more time to see if any of you is lucky enough to find a solution for it.
As a temporary workaround, I have changed the GPRS to 2G and its working now. In 3G, if I try making calls, the data connectivity will not be cancelled, but in 2G, as soon as you hit the green button, the data will be cancelled.
Please reply if you find any solution for it. Thank you!
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Please call me at 09900567837 . I ve found the issue to the problem!

Please find if anything in common
Dark Prince X said:
Please call me at 09900567837 . I ve found the issue to the problem!
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1) Does anyone of you NOT use motoblur Account????
2) Does anyone of you NOT use google account in your phone?
I think the solution lies in the questions above. If you use either one, the problem will persist. Try to factory reset your phone and skip log in Motoblur and Skip google account sync. The problem should be solved.

No luck
As suggested by you, I did a factory reset and tried making call without adding Google account and it didn't workout. I had the same problem. I even tried adding another Google account (after wiping data) and same problem. I lost hope
I am gonna use my mobile with 2G only till someone finds a permanent solution.
Thanks for your help!

[Q] Galaxy S4 No call Audio

HI,
I have a Galaxy S4 GT9505. I started facing a problem with the in-call audio today. When I can someone they cannot hear me and I cannot hear the m either. There is no ringing sound either. There is no sound even if I turn on the speaker. The earpiece and mic are working with other VoIP applications like Viber / Skype and Tango etc. Here is a list of things which I have done to resolve the issue but nothing seems to work so far:
1: Rebooting the phone
2. Rebooting by pulling the battery and simcard out and putting them again.
3. Factory Resetting the phone and wiping all data.
4. Pulling the battery out for 5 mins or so and putting it again in solved the problem for one or two calls but the problem again started soon after that.
I am running android 4.3 which i recently updated a month ago from stock 4.2.2. I havent tried flashing the phone or rooting it since I am not a big tech-geek but I really doubt it would work as some other posts have found it useless.
It is definately a software issue and I cant find any place which comes up with a specific solution to this problem. My gs4 is completely unlocked and I do not have a warranty claim since the phone was bought in another country,
Itll be really helpful if you guys can help me with this as the technicians here in Australia are a real ripoff when it comes to phone repairs.
Any help will be appreciated .
Thanks

affanabid said:
HI,
I have a Galaxy S4 GT9505. I started facing a problem with the in-call audio today. When I can someone they cannot hear me and I cannot hear the m either. There is no ringing sound either. There is no sound even if I turn on the speaker. The earpiece and mic are working with other VoIP applications like Viber / Skype and Tango etc. Here is a list of things which I have done to resolve the issue but nothing seems to work so far:
1: Rebooting the phone
2. Rebooting by pulling the battery and simcard out and putting them again.
3. Factory Resetting the phone and wiping all data.
4. Pulling the battery out for 5 mins or so and putting it again in solved the problem for one or two calls but the problem again started soon after that.
I am running android 4.3 which i recently updated a month ago from stock 4.2.2. I havent tried flashing the phone or rooting it since I am not a big tech-geek but I really doubt it would work as some other posts have found it useless.
It is definately a software issue and I cant find any place which comes up with a specific solution to this problem. My gs4 is completely unlocked and I do not have a warranty claim since the phone was bought in another country,
Itll be really helpful if you guys can help me with this as the technicians here in Australia are a real ripoff when it comes to phone repairs.
Any help will be appreciated .
Thanks
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Mind dialing *#1234# and write it down here

Repulsa said:
Mind dialing *#1234# and write it down here
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Here you go:
AP : I9505XXUEMK9
CP : I9505XXUEMK9
CSC : I9505VAUEMK1

affanabid said:
Here you go:
AP : I9505XXUEMK9
CP : I9505XXUEMK9
CSC : I9505VAUEMK1
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Download/Extract This file ,Then Flash the file with Odin 3.04 or 3.09 , then open extracted file ".tar.(md5)" as PHONE/CP and Flash away. IF the problem still persist Download the stock 4.3 rom base from your Country from here and Follow the tutorial from here "Dont forget to do a backup" Goodluck.

Repulsa said:
Download/Extract This file ,Then Flash the file with Odin 3.04 or 3.09 , then open extracted file ".tar.(md5)" as PHONE/CP and Flash away. IF the problem still persist Download the stock 4.3 rom base from your Country from here and Follow the tutorial from here "Dont forget to do a backup" Goodluck.
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Both methods not working

Did you flash (custom) kernel recently?

Dear OP,
I had this with my S4 it went to the menders 3 times, each time they factory reset it and flashed latest and sent it back working.
(I had obviously already done this myself)
Then it would go again. After the third time enough was enough and I escalated it and the replaced it with a new handset and no more problems. I think this is a hardware issue and you're gonna have to get a replacement.
Search XDA for mine and others threads or go to O2 Community where there are a couple of others stories (mine included)
Cheers,
GG

Hello .. i have an S4 with almost the same problem .. incall sound is like an radio interference very strong ... about 90% and in the background i can hear the call only 10 % so its unuseable. I also want to specify this is only manifested on headphones handsfree (tryied many kinds same result), bluetooth works fine, voip / skype also.
The thing is i never made gsm calls (with headphones) between the firmare updates to be shure if it comes from the firmware
i9505
4.4.2
bb i9505xxugng8
unrooted
So from my experience i'm guessing the audio chip is almost at the end of life, so if that is true dont think any software sollution will fix this.
But if anyone has an idea, that would help.
Thanks in advance.

I had the same problem - no in-call audio, everything else working fine. GT-I9505 running 4.4.2. If I restarted the phone then in-call audio would work for a while, then stop again. It was getting to the stage where I couldn't rely on it working for more than half an hour. I searched the web and found lots of non-functional suggestions, I tried lots of things and this is what I ended up with:
1. I deleted the call logs. It didn't seem to help, but it may be relevant if the next steps don't work for you.
2. I restarted in Safe Mode. Even after about 3 hours I still had in-call audio, so it looks to be a software problem.
3. I then restarted in normal mode and after about 18 hours I still have in-call audio working. Not sure how long it will last, but it's a huge step forward for me.
Hope this works for you.

SOLUTION: Samsung Galaxy S4 I337 no audio sound during phone call.
SOLUTION: Samsung Galaxy S4 I337 no audio sound during phone call.
For me it was a bad SIM Card Reader or Module IF. But it could be a bad SIM card so try a new SIM before doing this repair or at least take it out and in.
My Service Repair Statement said it replaced two things:
Part Number Description
GH59-13279A Unit-SIM SD SOCKET; SGH-I377, 10-0013-0278
GH59-13111A MODULE-IF SUB FPCB(SGH-I337);SGH-I337,10
Called 800-726-7864 told them what the symptoms were and that the support line said it was the SIM Card Reader and they gave me a quote of $70.36 and seemed confident that the phone would be fixed. Sent to Samsung Repair Facility in Texas, total cost $70.36, and was without it for 9 days. It’s been working for 2 weeks now with no problems.
First I took it to an AT&T Service Center and all they really did was try a new SIM Card, next called Samsung Service 888-987-4357 and went thru a series of tests and they said it was a bad SIM card reader and gave me the repair center number.
Symptoms:
No audio / sound during a phone call on either side (caller or receiver)
Call connects everything is working, just no sound.
Sound for all other functions and apps works (music, voice recording, video audio).
You can tell it is going to happen when you make a call and you don’t hear any ringing just a click sound then nothing. If you hear ringing then the call will work.
Rebooting usual works for a call or two. Messing with some settings may get it to work for a period of time. But for me none of any of the other suggested fixes worked except rebooting and turning airplane mode on and off but it only fixed it for awhile.
I have used the phone for 1.5 years and never had a single hardware problem, didn’t have it heavily loaded (RAM or Memory). It just started one day out of the blue and drove me crazy.
affanabid said:
HI,
I have a Galaxy S4 GT9505. I started facing a problem with the in-call audio today. When I can someone they cannot hear me and I cannot hear the m either. There is no ringing sound either. There is no sound even if I turn on the speaker. The earpiece and mic are working with other VoIP applications like Viber / Skype and Tango etc. Here is a list of things which I have done to resolve the issue but nothing seems to work so far:
1: Rebooting the phone
2. Rebooting by pulling the battery and simcard out and putting them again.
3. Factory Resetting the phone and wiping all data.
4. Pulling the battery out for 5 mins or so and putting it again in solved the problem for one or two calls but the problem again started soon after that.
I am running android 4.3 which i recently updated a month ago from stock 4.2.2. I havent tried flashing the phone or rooting it since I am not a big tech-geek but I really doubt it would work as some other posts have found it useless.
It is definately a software issue and I cant find any place which comes up with a specific solution to this problem. My gs4 is completely unlocked and I do not have a warranty claim since the phone was bought in another country,
Itll be really helpful if you guys can help me with this as the technicians here in Australia are a real ripoff when it comes to phone repairs.
Any help will be appreciated .
Thanks
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NO voice During call
hi guys
i have a problem with my s4 9505, i cant hear voice during network but i can hear voice on whatsapp/skype.
I have tried rebooting, even i switched to previous OS 4.4.2 , but in vain.
please suggest some solution

i have 3 log cats of this issue
https://mega.co.nz/#!xtMwHLrb!AaYC99...VomCwGvCKuP9Q0
https://mega.co.nz/#!s0txRIAb!xJ4Ws4...ABUR3l0tI8Fg2E
https://mega.co.nz/#!Q08Qlb7L!AULugi...NtPTOdMuapjT4k

rpsdguy said:
SOLUTION: Samsung Galaxy S4 I337 no audio sound during phone call.
For me it was a bad SIM Card Reader or Module IF. But it could be a bad SIM card so try a new SIM before doing this repair or at least take it out and in.
My Service Repair Statement said it replaced two things:
Part Number Description
GH59-13279A Unit-SIM SD SOCKET; SGH-I377, 10-0013-0278
GH59-13111A MODULE-IF SUB FPCB(SGH-I337);SGH-I337,10
Called 800-726-7864 told them what the symptoms were and that the support line said it was the SIM Card Reader and they gave me a quote of $70.36 and seemed confident that the phone would be fixed. Sent to Samsung Repair Facility in Texas, total cost $70.36, and was without it for 9 days. It’s been working for 2 weeks now with no problems.
First I took it to an AT&T Service Center and all they really did was try a new SIM Card, next called Samsung Service 888-987-4357 and went thru a series of tests and they said it was a bad SIM card reader and gave me the repair center number.
Symptoms:
No audio / sound during a phone call on either side (caller or receiver)
Call connects everything is working, just no sound.
Sound for all other functions and apps works (music, voice recording, video audio).
You can tell it is going to happen when you make a call and you don’t hear any ringing just a click sound then nothing. If you hear ringing then the call will work.
Rebooting usual works for a call or two. Messing with some settings may get it to work for a period of time. But for me none of any of the other suggested fixes worked except rebooting and turning airplane mode on and off but it only fixed it for awhile.
I have used the phone for 1.5 years and never had a single hardware problem, didn’t have it heavily loaded (RAM or Memory). It just started one day out of the blue and drove me crazy.
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Same for me, it was the sim card not seated properly.

Same Issue to me
See, i got a similar problem, when i make a phone call sometimes it works and sometimes the phone loses the sound. after a reboot the problem seem to be gone during a brief moment, then it lose sound again. I've tried all kind of software solutions and get some conclusions after reading a lot of posts.
First: Is a hardware issue. Is related to the sim card reader and the charging port.
I've started experiencing the Cannot detect your simcard problem and fix it with a piece of foam,(it actually works great). The sim card problem was hiding the sound issue because it constantly reboots the phone, 2-3 times a day, and even if it loses the sound i didn't realize because i have to restart because of the annoying pop up.
I'm on CM13 now, and was working great for a day or two. then it starts losing sound again, first was call audio only, then even when the phone try to make the unlock sound it freezes, get in an unresponsive state. When i hit the phone softly he makes the unlock sound and starts working really good. Then Ii think, let's try that when it loses sound anywhere else. Try to play a song and the phone freezes and no sound is coming from the speaker, little hit and starts playing. Try to call and freezes or start the call without sound, little hit and works great again. So…i started to wonder what if is the same sim card issue, a faulty connector, that make perfect sense to me. So given the fact that I cannot aquire replacements and the fact that i’m reallyyy cheap, i will try to use a piece of foam on the top of the charger connector as well as the sim card reader. I’ll keep you posted if that Works for me.

Trouble with phonecalls

Im in Norway with Telenor subscription. When my Edge+ is LTE/3G/2G (auto connect) Im experiencing several issues:
1. During phonecalls:
- Several times during a call, I can hear the other party, but they can not hear me for several seconds
- The sound become "static", and the phonecall ends.
2. During browsing:
- Page never loads
I cant find any system in these problems, they can happen in places with good reception, or it can be during driving (handsfree).
But all these issues disappear if I set the phone in 2G only, then everything is working perfectly.
What I've tried:
- Reset APN
- Enter APN manually
Any suggestions?

I'm in Norway too but with NetCom. I've used my wife's Telenor SIM card in my Edge+ a few times, not really noticed any difference except for slightly worse sound during calls. Har du ringt Telenor?

I have the same problem. Are you rooted by any chance and have recently installed viper4android?

B3311 said:
I'm in Norway too but with NetCom. I've used my wife's Telenor SIM-CARD in my Edge+ a few times, not really noticed any difference except for slightly worse sound during calls. Har du ringt Telenor?
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Yes, the Telenor employee just said that he had the same phone without any problems...

rm83855 said:
I have the same problem. Are you rooted by any chance and have recently installed viper4android?
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No, Im not rooted, and running stock firmware. Ive not installed viper4android. The problem has been there from day one

Hmm... I'm rooted and have Viper. Are you locked to Telenor? If not, try and loan a Netcom/Djuice/Chess/whatever SIM card and test - at least then you should definitely know if it's a device problem or a Telenor problem.
What's your signal strength (Settings>About phone>SIM card status)?

B3311 said:
Hmm... I'm rooted and have Viper. Are you locked to Telenor? If not, try and loan a Netcom/Djuice/Chess/whatever SIM card and test - at least then you should definitely know if it's a device problem or a Telenor problem.
What's your signal strength (Settings>About phone>SIM card status)?
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I'm not locked, so I will try a simcard from a different operator. When I have auto connect (LTE, 3g 2g) its constantly shifting between H and H+.
Where I'm now, the signal strengt is stable on -51 dBm 31 asu (Mobile network type EDGE).
Switching to (LTE, 3G, 2G) its -65 dBm 24 asu (Mobile network type LTE)

I can confirm having the same issue #2 as OP in Sweden with Halebop as my carrier, but I only got it once and since then there has been several security updates so I though this issue was one of the things fixed (thanks Samsung for not supplying a proper changelog)

I've just tried with two Telenor SIM cards from my wife and son - both work fine. I'd contact Telenor again and ask for real help... Their customer service is dreadful, that's why I switched to NetCom. Lykke til?

I have this problem a few days:
1. During phonecalls:
- Several times during a call, I can hear the other party, but they can not hear me for several seconds
- The sound become "static", and the phonecall ends.
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And that days i try everything (restart, everything reset, change network modes, remove/return sim card ets). Only calls perfect works in forced 2G mode these days.
Problem solved a few days later by itself.
My phone is rooted, and i have custom kernel.
Country: Serbia, Network: MTS

Hey guys!
I'm having the same problem here on Brazil with carrier VIVO
went to SIM CARD STATUS and it shows signal strenght of -113 dBm, 0 asu
it says mobile network state disconnected
I can't make or receive call and access internet

dannp21db said:
Hey guys!
I'm having the same problem here on Brazil with carrier VIVO
went to SIM CARD STATUS and it shows signal strenght of -113 dBm, 0 asu
it says mobile network state disconnected
I can't make or receive call and access internet
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I sometimes have the same problem. Called my service provider (Telenor) today. They are going to send me a new SIM-car, going to se if thats help, and Im going to test with anoter service providers SIM-card

Got the new SIM-card last week.. Same problem, people people can't hear me for 3-10 seconds several times during a phonecall. And data seems to "hang" from time to time. Tried a full factory reset this weekend, so are going to test more next week. And then try a Netcom SIM-card

Mojito71 said:
Got the new SIM-card last week.. Same problem, people people can't hear me for 3-10 seconds several times during a phonecall. And data seems to "hang" from time to time. Tried a full factory reset this weekend, so are going to test more next week. And then try a Netcom SIM-card
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Just to recap
I returned the phone, and I just got an email from the repairs workshop saying it was a warranty. I dont know if I get a new phone, or if they have repaired the old one.
update: got an email from repairs workshop. They did a network calibration and "reinstalled software". After that they tested the phone OK. I think I will get the phone this week.

I have same problem now, only work on 2g. When on 3g phonecalls hanging all the time.

goran9888 said:
I have same problem now, only work on 2g. When on 3g phonecalls hanging all the time.
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Same problem here.
In general, the problem is not with the sim card neither phone hardware. The problem usually is with any app that we have installed. To ensure this, switch on the phone in SAFE MODE ( safe mode temporally turns off all user-installed apps). To do that:
1. Switch off the phone
2. Wait at least 1 minute
3.Press and hold volume down button AND the power button
4.Once screen lights up, you can release power button but you should NOT release the volume down button
5. Hold the volume down button until you get the lock screen
You will notice there is a Safe mode icon in bottom left of the lock screen.
Now try to do some phone calls and accurate if the phone call sound is ok. If so, you must uninstall all your apps and discover which one is making this problem

flechinha said:
Same problem here.
In general, the problem is not with the sim card neither phone hardware. The problem usually is with any app that we have installed. To ensure this, switch on the phone in SAFE MODE ( safe mode temporally turns off all user-installed apps). To do that:
1. Switch off the phone
2. Wait at least 1 minute
3.Press and hold volume down button AND the power button
4.Once screen lights up, you can release power button but you should NOT release the volume down button
5. Hold the volume down button until you get the lock screen
You will notice there is a Safe mode icon in bottom left of the lock screen.
Now try to do some phone calls and accurate if the phone call sound is ok. If so, you must uninstall all your apps and discover which one is making this problem
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You are right. In safe mode work normal. Now must check what app make problem.

goran9888 said:
You are right. In safe mode work normal. Now must check what app make problem.
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Jeez, how are we going to identify this app.. It even might be several....

If you find what app make a problem text here, if i find, i will.

"Jeez, how are we going to identify this app.. It even might be several.... "
goran9888 said:
If you find what app make a problem text here, if i find, i will.
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Are you talking seriously?? First of all, I think that finding out that the problem isn't neither from sim card or hardware, is a great new, and now you are asking which app YOU have installed is the problematic?! Lol ok, I suppose to believe you're naïve and I can help a bit...
It is not necessarily only one or the same app for both. Sometimes can be one in conflict with another also installed, one in conflict with the specific firmware of each one or one of several app's with low maturity (you can check it in Google play). I can give you an idea: for instance, periscope app is very problematic in android. But there are a lot of a lot problematic app's. So, as they are so much, there is only a solution if you don't have an idea: uninstall all of them ( phone hard reset preferably) and after this, install one by one manually (not restore any backup cause the errors come again). After each app installation, make some calls to check any call sound problem. When you notice the problem in call sound, the cause is in the last app that you've installed immediately before this. For next time, check with attention after installing any app if any problem appear and never install several app's in the same time to have time to notice problems in a narrow way...
Anyway, you can write here your conclusions
voilà