So I finally found some time for my unlocked and rooted nexus 4. Right now it is on 4.3 stock and I want to update to 4.4.2. Now the question which I couldn't find an answer on Google: Do I loose root after manual update? I've seen some videos on that, but some say that you need stock recovery (I have TWRP), but nothing about root.
Also, I'd install Franco kernel after that.
Help and possible tutorial would be appreciated, I'm still kinda new to android.
You can have a stock experience by installing the Experience ROM in the development thread.
Make sure you are running the latest TWRP before trying to flash a 4.4 ROM.
audit13 said:
You can have a stock experience by installing the Experience ROM in the development thread.
Make sure you are running the latest TWRP before trying to flash a 4.4 ROM.
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I want to use stock rom wirh fraco kernel. Again, do I loose root from 4.3 to 4.4?
brinmb said:
I want to use stock rom wirh fraco kernel. Again, do I loose root from 4.3 to 4.4?
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Yes, always when you flash another stock Rom, you will lose root.
But it's a matter of seconds to reroot after flashing latest supersu.zip through TWRP.
Unleashed by my Nexus 4
RASTAVIPER said:
Yes, always when you flash another stock Rom, you will lose root.
But it's a matter of seconds to reroot after flashing latest supersu.zip through TWRP.
Unleashed by my Nexus 4
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Alright, thanks. I guess I'll do thst.
I recently flashed the 4.4.2 gpe ROM for GT-I9505 and now I can't flash any other ROM I have tried flashing with Odin ,custom recovery and adb sideload non have worked can any one help please
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stehulme said:
I recently flashed the 4.4.2 gpe ROM for GT-I9505 and now I can't flash any other ROM I have tried flashing with Odin ,custom recovery and adb sideload non have worked can any one help please
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You cannot downgrade the rom after you have odin flashed any 4.4.2 rom.
But you can flash any compatible cwm/twrp custom roms which are 4.4.2 or newer.
You cannot go back/downgrade to 4.3 roms.
Good luck!
Misterjunky said:
You cannot downgrade the rom after you have odin flashed any 4.4.2 rom.
But you can flash any compatible cwm/twrp custom roms which are 4.4.2 or newer.
You cannot go back/downgrade to 4.3 roms.
Good luck!
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I managed to flash the XXUFNA5 ROM thanks for your help
Misterjunky said:
You cannot downgrade the rom after you have odin flashed any 4.4.2 rom.
But you can flash any compatible cwm/twrp custom roms which are 4.4.2 or newer.
You cannot go back/downgrade to 4.3 roms.
Good luck!
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Ur first sentence is right, but the rest isn't.
When he flashed only the Google Edition from Jamal( a custom ROM over recovery) and never the leak before, he got not the new bootloader. So he can downgrade if he wants.
When u flashed the new leak u can always downgrade on 4.3 Custom ROM via backup.
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Hi there,
I have a Galaxy S4 i9505 with official Samsung 4.3 Stock ROM from a different country which I had flashed using ODIN a while ago. I already have my knox counter tripped to 0x1 because I had also installed custom recovery and rooted.
Would I be able to flash CM11 (Android Version 4.4) on to this and then if I don't like it or want to return back to this exact version I have now by a Nandroid backup, could I?
I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer and want to get rid of Touchwiz (like nearly everyone else)
Baseband Version: i9505XXUEMK8
Build Number: JSS15J. I9505XXUEMK8
Thank you in advance
LimitedStreak said:
Hi there,
I have a Galaxy S4 i9505 with official Samsung 4.3 Stock ROM from a different country which I had flashed using ODIN a while ago. I already have my knox counter tripped to 0x1 because I had also installed custom recovery and rooted.
Would I be able to flash CM11 (Android Version 4.4) on to this and then if I don't like it or want to return back to this exact version I have now by a Nandroid backup, could I?
I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer and want to get rid of Touchwiz (like nearly everyone else)
Baseband Version: i9505XXUEMK8
Build Number: JSS15J. I9505XXUEMK8
Thank you in advance
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Yes you can easily return back to the saved nandroid backup you have in recovery
I first started on cm11 before picking a daily ROM that was suitable for me
Happy flashing
11calcal said:
Yes you can easily return back to the saved nandroid backup you have in recovery
I first started on cm11 before picking a daily ROM that was suitable for me
Happy flashing
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I have read somewhere that if the build number is updated then you cannot downgrade or something?
Was yours a knox enabled rom and have you tried going back to it?
LimitedStreak said:
I have read somewhere that if the build number is updated then you cannot downgrade or something?
Was yours a knox enabled rom and have you tried going back to it?
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Apparently once you update to 4.4.2 you can't downgrade to 4.3 but IMHO why you would want to go back is beyond me ? Mine was on Knox after 4.3 ota but took the plunge & glad I did & wouldn't need to go back to an outdated OS. My baseband has stayed mk9 even after trying a few ROMs & love the smoothness of Google edition ROMs over cm11
I would suggest making the move over to kk & trying a few ROMs out there.
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Apparently once you update to 4.4.2 you can't downgrade to 4.3 but IMHO why you would want to go back is beyond me ? Mine was on Knox after 4.3 ota but took the plunge & glad I did & wouldn't need to go back to an outdated OS. My baseband has stayed mk9 even after trying a few ROMs & love the smoothness of Google edition ROMs over cm11
I would suggest making the move over to kk & trying a few ROMs out there.
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I have been on CM10.1 before and the only reason I went back to Touchwiz was because there was bugs with it and that's the same reason I might want to go back if I flash it now so I just want to be sure
I was thinking that if I update and my baseband/build number stay the same then I might be able to downgrade again if I wanted to later?
Absolutely hate Touchwiz right now but everything works too
LimitedStreak said:
I have been on CM10.1 before and the only reason I went back to Touchwiz was because there was bugs with it and that's the same reason I might want to go back if I flash it now so I just want to be sure
I was thinking that if I update and my baseband/build number stay the same then I might be able to downgrade again if I wanted to later?
Absolutely hate Touchwiz right now but everything works too
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I wouldn't like to say that if baseband stays same that you could go back for sure ? Touchwiz is just too bloated IMO that's why I decided on a custom ROM ?
I found cm11 okay but feel that kk GE is so much fluid :highfive:
I think it isn't possible to go from a knox-enabled rom to one without knox?
So I have knox-enabled 4 right now and guessing when I go on CM11 it'll still be there so when I try to downgrade I should be able to?
As it's not going from 4.3 (knox-enabled) to 4.2 (knox-disabled) but from 4.4 (knox-enabled?) to 4.3 (knox-enabled)
I'm not really sure but can someone give us some help .
11calcal said:
I wouldn't like to say that if baseband stays same that you could go back for sure ? Touchwiz is just too bloated IMO that's why I decided on a custom ROM ?
I found cm11 okay but feel that kk GE is so much fluid :highfive:
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So you was able to go from one CM11 to GE which both are on 4.4?
I think I'll update to stock 4.4 and then from there create another nandroid and move about ROMs? Would that work?
LimitedStreak said:
So you was able to go from one CM11 to GE which both are on 4.4?
I think I'll update to stock 4.4 and then from there create another nandroid and move about ROMs? Would that work?
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Yes initially I was on stock 4.3 then went on cm11 for a week or so then started trying out GE ROMs ?
If I needed to go back to official stock (warranty) I would just find & flash 1 through Odin :fingers-crossed:
11calcal said:
Yes initially I was on stock 4.3 then went on cm11 for a week or so then started trying out GE ROMs ?
If I needed to go back to official stock (warranty) I would just find & flash 1 through Odin :fingers-crossed:
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If you needed to go back would you go back to an official 4.4 or 4.3 then?
Do you think it would be a good idea to just titaniumbackup everything and Nandroid and flash cm11 and so if there are any problems I could just flash stock 4.4 and install all the apps back via titanium backup?
Would there be a problem with the bootloader?
LimitedStreak said:
If you needed to go back would you go back to an official 4.4 or 4.3 then?
Do you think it would be a good idea to just titaniumbackup everything and Nandroid and flash cm11 and so if there are any problems I could just flash stock 4.4 and install all the apps back via titanium backup?
Would there be a problem with the bootloader?
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If I needed to go official I would flash back to 4.3 as that's what I'm meant to be on.
Always make a backup before flashing that way you can reinstall.
Can't see a problem with bootloader even if you had to flash official I would just use chainfire to gain recovery/root again ?
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If I needed to go official I would flash back to 4.3 as that's what I'm meant to be on.
Always make a backup before flashing that way you can reinstall.
Can't see a problem with bootloader even if you had to flash official I would just use chainfire to gain recovery/root again ?
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But this new knox thing on the S4 means you can't downgrade the bootloader or something. So I think going from 4.4 to 4.3 is downgrading the bootloader? And so would risk bricking your device which is why I don't want to attempt it unless someone has done it and had to problem
LimitedStreak said:
But this new knox thing on the S4 means you can't downgrade the bootloader or something. So I think going from 4.4 to 4.3 is downgrading the bootloader? And so would risk bricking your device which is why I don't want to attempt it unless someone has done it and had to problem
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You are already on the new bootloader with Knox triggered so there is no downgrading to old bootloader.
You are safe to stay on 4.3 but if you put 4.4 or cm11 on your phone you may not be able to go back to an earlier version?
Hi, I hope I can clear something here. If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup. If you once triggered your Knox to 0x1, it's not possible to get it back to 0x0.
If you flash a stock Samsung 4.4.2 KitKat with the new KitKat bootloader, you can restore any custom 4.3 ROM. You can not flash a 4.3 stock ROM with Odin once you are on the KitKat bootloader. In this case you have to flash a stock KitKat ROM.
Another thing: if you now are on a 4.3 bootloader and you flash a 4.4 ROM, it could break wifi. But there are fixes possible with editing the build.prop.
So fact is, no matter what ever you do, if your Knox is already 0x1, it's not possible to get back to 0x0.
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Hi, I hope I can clear something here. If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup. If you once triggered your Knox to 0x1, it's not possible to get it back to 0x0.
If you flash a stock Samsung 4.4.2 KitKat with the new KitKat bootloader, you can restore any custom 4.3 ROM. You can not flash a 4.3 stock ROM with Odin once you are on the KitKat bootloader. In this case you have to flash a stock KitKat ROM.
Another thing: if you now are on a 4.3 bootloader and you flash a 4.4 ROM, it could break wifi. But there are fixes possible with editing the build.prop.
So fact is, no matter what ever you do, if your Knox is already 0x1, it's not possible to get back to 0x0.
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Hi there and thanks for your help but could I clear this up
You said 'If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup.'
I am on stock 4.3, did you mean CM10.1 (Android 4.3) or CM11 (Android 4.4)? And if CM11 then that would mean I could go to android 4.4 and then back down to 4.3 stock if I wanted?
And flashing a KitKat ROM on 4.3 ROM would give me that wifi problem?
So do you think I should flash stock 4.4 using Odin and then flash CM11.. and then if wanted I could just go back to stock 4.4? Would there be a change in bootloader between 4.4 roms?
Hope you understood this, thanks again
LimitedStreak said:
Hi there and thanks for your help but could I clear this up
You said 'If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup.'
I am on stock 4.3, did you mean CM10.1 (Android 4.3) or CM11 (Android 4.4)? And if CM11 then that would mean I could go to android 4.4 and then back down to 4.3 stock if I wanted?
And flashing a KitKat ROM on 4.3 ROM would give me that wifi problem?
So do you think I should flash stock 4.4 using Odin and then flash CM11.. and then if wanted I could just go back to stock 4.4? Would there be a change in bootloader between 4.4 roms?
Hope you understood this, thanks again
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If you want 4.4, you can flash the stock Samsung package including the newest bootloader and modem. Wifi and everything else will work then. Once you are on the 4.4 bootloader, you can switch between all 4.4 ROMS, stock or custom. You be able to Odin flash the stock Samsung 4.4 ROM again. But you can not flash a STOCK SAMSUNG 4.3 ROM again. 4.3 CUSTOM Rom is possible.
Remember: if you flash the Samsung stock 4.4 package, you have to root and flash a custom recovery before you can flash cm11 I suggest TWRP 2.6.3.1, works perfect.
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If you want 4.4, you can flash the stock Samsung package including the newest bootloader and modem. Wifi and everything else will work then. Once you are on the 4.4 bootloader, you can switch between all 4.4 ROMS, stock or custom. You be able to Odin flash the stock Samsung 4.4 ROM again. But you can not flash a STOCK SAMSUNG 4.3 ROM again. 4.3 CUSTOM Rom is possible.
Remember: if you flash the Samsung stock 4.4 package, you have to root and flash a custom recovery before you can flash cm11 I suggest TWRP 2.6.3.1, works perfect.
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Understood, Thank you!
Hmm, would I need to delete data and stuff when flashing stock 4.4? If it does, titaniumbackup backup/restore should work fine?
I will flash twrp custom recovery using odin but how about a root? Which root works on 4.4 with knox?
Thanks
LimitedStreak said:
Understood, Thank you!
Hmm, would I need to delete data and stuff when flashing stock 4.4? If it does, titaniumbackup backup/restore should work fine?
I will flash twrp custom recovery using odin but how about a root? Which root works on 4.4 with knox?
Thanks
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Try CFautoroot first. Then recovery. Restore most of your data with titanium should work. But don't restore any system apps.:good:
Hey Guys,
My Nexus is rooted but I'm on a stock ROM from JDQ39, 4.2.2. Can I just flash an updated ROM or do I have to do multiple upgrades to get up to 4.4.4?
Thanks
mcvoss said:
Hey Guys,
My Nexus is rooted but I'm on a stock ROM from JDQ39, 4.2.2. Can I just flash an updated ROM or do I have to do multiple upgrades to get up to 4.4.4?
Thanks
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You should be able to use Wugs Tool kit to flash the latest files & recovery. Then flash whatever rom you wish from recovery.
Using fastboot is the best way. Toolkits are....um.....I'll stop there.
Its been a very long time since I've had to dig this deep into flashing and I've always been a Samsung user so I'm somewhat use to the less difficult route. I'm running the 4.4.4 mokee ROM with the kitkat boot loader. Im trying to get miui running on my phone. The miui ROM is on 4.2.2 and I'm guessing requires a JB bootloader to flash. So my question is, is there a pre-rooted rsd package to get back to 4.2.2 so I can flash miui or do I have to flash back to stock, re-root and re-flash a custom recovery? Honestly I'm trying to get back for stability also. Unless someone knows where a KitKat miui ROM is for our phone? Other than the "V6" tablet ui ROM. It isn't no where stable enough.
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Its been a very long time since I've had to dig this deep into flashing and I've always been a Samsung user so I'm somewhat use to the less difficult route. I'm running the 4.4.4 mokee ROM with the kitkat boot loader. Im trying to get miui running on my phone. The miui ROM is on 4.2.2 and I'm guessing requires a JB bootloader to flash. So my question is, is there a pre-rooted rsd package to get back to 4.2.2 so I can flash miui or do I have to flash back to stock, re-root and re-flash a custom recovery? Honestly I'm trying to get back for stability also. Unless someone knows where a KitKat miui ROM is for our phone? Other than the "V6" tablet ui ROM. It isn't no where stable enough.
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simplest route for you: install rsdlite, flash stock 4.4.2 which will upgrade you to kk bootloader. then install supersu from play store, then towelroot and root your phone. thereafter, use motocalypse to unlock bootloader.
after that you are free to pick and choose which rom you want to install. if you wish to install a jb rom, you will have to downgrade to jb bootloader. otherwise, you're free to install your favorite recovery followed by your favorite kk rom while still on the kk bootloader
brd912 said:
So my question is, is there a pre-rooted rsd package to get back to 4.2.2 so I can flash miui or do I have to flash back to stock, re-root and re-flash a custom recovery?
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You don't have to be rooted to flash custom recoveries, so just downgrade to stock 4.1.2 (there was no 4.2) and then flash a custom recovery for the old bootloader.
You could also try this
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php?/topic/50096-[How-To][Mobile-Downgrader]-Flash-Back-1.0-(07-15-14)#entry448942
thewraith420 said:
You could also try this
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php?/topic/50096-[How-To][Mobile-Downgrader]-Flash-Back-1.0-(07-15-14)#entry448942
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I flashed the JB file but it failed to flash a 4.2.2 ROM...since it flashes back to 4.1.2 would I have to flash a 4.1.2 based ROM and then flash a 4.2.2 rom?
brd912 said:
I flashed the JB file but it failed to flash a 4.2.2 ROM...since it flashes back to 4.1.2 would I have to flash a 4.1.2 based ROM and then flash a 4.2.2 rom?
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If meant for 4.1.2 kernel then use flash back 4.1.2 then when recovery reboots flash the 4.1.2bl rom. Which 4.2.2 ROM are you trying?
We cannot teach people anything; we can only help them discover it within themselves.
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If meant for 4.1.2 kernel then use flash back 4.1.2 then when recovery reboots flash the 4.1.2bl rom. Which 4.2.2 ROM are you trying?
We cannot teach people anything; we can only help them discover it within themselves.
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Miui. I'm gonna try the 4.1.2 miui and then after it boots see if it will flash the 4.2.2 ROM.
I can't get any jb ROM to flash using the flashback zip... I guess rsd it is