Is it just me, or does it under App info on an app move the "Application" bytes and not the total bytes? If so this feature is completely useless because the "Application" part of the bytes is minute compared to the total. Completely defeats the purpose of the feature.
SlayaDud said:
Is it just me, or does it under App info on an app move the "Application" bytes and not the total bytes? If so this feature is completely useless because the "Application" part of the bytes is minute compared to the total. Completely defeats the purpose of the feature.
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I think this is application dependent because a lot of games (at least from what I can see), the application portion is actually a majority. It doesn't move all it, but most of it. It seems like it usually leaves around 2MB on the phone itself and the rest gets moved to the SD card.
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Trying to install an apk and my phone won't let me. I get "Out of Space" App could not be viewed. Free up some space on your phone and try again and I get a button for "Manage applications" so I can delete apps. My phone storage reads
SD
7.38GB total
5.63GB available
Internal
6.60GB total
6.32GB available
Anyone else have this happen to them?
Just in case I rebooted my phone but still have the same issue.
hexto said:
SD
7.38GB total
5.63GB available
Internal
6.60GB total
6.32GB available
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Not all of the internal memory can be used for applications. While the phone is advertised to have 8GB of internal memory, that 6.60GB (6.32GB avail) you see is treated like the SD card memory. Apps can't be installed on that portion.
The internal memory for applications is 748MB.
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Not all of the internal memory can be used for applications. While the phone is advertised to have 8GB of internal memory, that 6.60GB (6.32GB avail) you see is treated like the SD card memory. Apps can't be installed on that portion.
The internal memory for applications is 748MB.
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That blows. Can't wait for root so I can use apps2sd. Thanks
Really? Coming from the droid 748 is a godsend.
I agree 748mb is gift compared to the others. I just read somewhere that the Evo only will have 358mb free.
I am curious how many apps you have. Perhaps one of them is screwed up somehow?
I only have 74 apps listed in my app drawer and I have 643MB left.
Humpa said:
I am curious how many apps you have. Perhaps one of them is screwed up somehow?
I only have 74 apps listed in my app drawer and I have 643MB left.
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I haven't counted them but I just noticed that in Phone Memory it says
Total Space
748MB
Available Space
514MB
Something must be wrong...right?
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I haven't counted them but I just noticed that in Phone Memory it says
Total Space
748MB
Available Space
514MB
Something must be wrong...right?
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Yes, something sounds wrong.
Turn it off and try again maybe? Or maybe there is something wrong with that one app you are trying to install? Or maybe something got corrupted and you need to factory reset.
I don't recall seeing that error reported elsewhere.
I dont feel like counting mine but Have a bunch plus atless 12 3-D games. Still have 427mb available. Did you maybe mess with the internal card. My brother messed up his sd card on the Moto droid other day just by downloading a pic. Only way to fix it was to reformat it.
Not that the number of apps matters (now that we see there is over 500mb avail for the OP), but I just count the number of rows in my app drawer - took < 10 seconds? (oh, and multiply that by 4) Just an FYI ...
But anyway, I'd keep it to under 300 apps, not so much for space but for OS stability?
Some apps need to be uninstalled to be updated or you'll get that message.
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I did a hard reset of my phone the other day and now it runs like lightning. I've slowly started installing apps again and all seems to be going well still.
However I read that without installing some sort of fix (which from initial reading seems beyond my technical skillset) after installing 130mb of apps the apps get put on to a much slower internal card, which causes the lag.
Given I have quite a few storage heavy games still to install (gameloft ones), will I hit crazy amounts of lag again as soon as I install over 130mb of apps?
The short answer is yes. The more apps you install, the more they will automatically process in the background, thus tax your system.
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The short answer is yes. The more apps you install, the more they will automatically process in the background, thus tax your system.
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But is the vibrant more susceptible to this than other android phones given the 130mb nand limit was what I was trying to figure out.
I'm correct in thinking that after 130mb of apps the whole phone slows down??
I have about 150 apps on my phone with a little over 1gig left of space. I'm not running any kind of lag fix because I find them to unstable at this point. I occasionally will get a sec or two of lag when opening an app but that's it. IMO its a really quick phone but it also depends on what apps you are running.
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But is the vibrant more susceptible to this than other android phones given the 130mb nand limit was what I was trying to figure out.
I'm correct in thinking that after 130mb of apps the whole phone slows down??
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No, All apps are stored on the Internal SD. There is a lag fix that uses the 130 dbdata (iirc) nand partition thats 130mb for appdata (not the actual apps).
Using stock rooted ROM I wanted to remove some of the apps (most Google apps) that come with the ROM. For this purpose I use the Rom Toolbox lite app. I was able to remove the apps but everytime I go into the play store they show up as an update available.
Can anyone recommend a permanent solution to get rid of these apps that come pre-packed with the stock ROM ?
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Using stock rooted ROM I wanted to remove some of the apps (most Google apps) that come with the ROM. For this purpose I use the Rom Toolbox lite app. I was able to remove the apps but everytime I go into the play store they show up as an update available.
Can anyone recommend a permanent solution to get rid of these apps that come pre-packed with the stock ROM ?
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Use Titanium Backup to uninstall them, go to the system/apps folder and delete the APK, or you can just disable them in the Settings->Apps screen. Take your pick.
dont login to play store
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Use Titanium Backup to uninstall them, go to the system/apps folder and delete the APK, or you can just disable them in the Settings->Apps screen. Take your pick.[/QUOTE
If your going to disable them in settings>app you have to uninstall any updates first then you can disable them. This feature was introduced in ICS.
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munchy_cool said:
dont login to play store
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why?
What Google apps are safe to remove without screwing up the phone (Google play music, magazine, one time init, partner setup, search, currents)
Don't delete Google apps because you won't be able to get ota updates
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Don't delete Google apps because you won't be able to get ota updates
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Seriously? So we're stuck with the books, magazine and current crap?
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Seriously? So we're stuck with the books, magazine and current crap?
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Yep! I deleted the bloatware as soon as got my N4 back in November, it was running 4.2 , when Google pushed 4.2.1 it wouldn't install so I had to flash back to stock 4.2 and lost all data and settings...
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If you disable them you're fine. If you remove them and they are updated within the ota, it will fail.
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All you gotta do is either push them back or copy them back with root explorer.. That's what I had to do for the update..
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I know I deleted books on Monday when I got my phone but I can't remember if the ota came in before or after the deletion. I froze them with TBP for the time being but they occupy precious memory space.
No they don't. Those apps are located in /system on a different partition.
It has no effect on the space available to the user under normal circumstances. Not normal would be a root user moving files into that partition instead of their normal location.
Example would be converting a app into a system app.
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No they don't. Those apps are located in /system on a different partition.
It has no effect on the space available to the user under normal circumstances. Not normal would be a root user moving files into that partition instead of their normal location.
Example would be converting a app into a system app.
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Please help me understand how this phone works in terms of space then. It is supposed to be 16GB right? We get the phone and it has 12GB only (I am assuming it is because 4GB is being occupied by the system/stock rom). I installed a few apps and I now only have about 7GB left. I downloaded the system analyzer app and it tells me that TB is occupying a hell of a lot more space (due to an initial back-up I performed of apps and data) than what it was occupying on my previous phone. How do I go about loosing between 5 -6 GB of space?!?
Before removing the update of the Googlea apps and disabling them, current was up to 50MB, magazine was higher, etc...
I really do want to learn more about my phone, how best use my storage, save battery etc.
TIA guys
The phones have 16gb of nand in them.
Many things eat away at the so called 16gb. From the mb to bytes way of counting storage ( like any other drive) to the things you mentioned
The phone has a bit under 900 mb set aside for the ROM. Then there is the other stuff like radio / recovery bootloader etc that take up space / have a partition
The extra space you see being used by the apps you mentioned is just data. Currents for example downloads the stuff that you sync so it can be read offline. Its stored locally and takes up space. Same basic idea for the other apps you mentioned.
Once you update a system app also have two of the apks on the phone. One in /system/app and the other in /data/app. So the updated apk itself takes up a bit of space.
Think of it in simple computer terms. You have one 100gb hard drive that is spilt up into two partitions that you cant change ( got to pretend you can't change them for this). 20gb c partition for windows and 80gb left over for whatever. No matter how much stuff you delete off the 20gb you're not going to gain space on the 80.
In our phones all the pre installed apps would be on the 20gb. Anything that gets downloaded/cached etc would go into the 80gb.
If you need space you can free up space by clearing the caches of apps. Getting the titanium backups off the phone and onto a computer or the cloud. Converting some apps to system apps can gain you a couple hundred mb since they wouldn't be on our make believe 80gb partition anymore. Their data and cache will still end up on your regular storage but the apks won't be there...
It's all a translational from marketing to what a computer sees.
In marketing, (and everywhere else I guess based on the mathematical prefixes) they assume:
1Kb = thousand bytes
1Mb = million bytes
1Gb = billion bytes
(kilo- = 10 to the 3rd power, mega- = 10^6, giga- = 10^9)
Whereas a computer sees:
1Kb = 1024 bytes
1Mb = 1048576 bytes
1Gb = 1073741824 bytes
Now the Nexus 4 is 16 Gb = 16 billion bytes.
16 billion divided by 1073741824 = 14.901 Gb
You say before you used TB you had 12 Gigs. With 14.9 of play space, assume your rom/etc is 2.9 Gigs. After backing that up in TB, assuming there is compression, let's say 9.3 Gigs are left.
idk what apps you installed but 2 gigs is easy to kill with games, apps, music, syncing contact photos, etc. (Not to mention caches)
Heck, I install 1 game it takes up 3 gigs.
Albundy, THNAKS a million for explaining this to me. GREAT info!!!
PcFish thank you for the breakdown. No games. I've got the Advanced Task Killer app that helps clean up the cache
My nexus 4 started giving me insufficient storage complaints today as a tried to load an app that I'm writing onto it from Android Studio. It reads as having 422 Mb available, but I can't even load DiskUsage (155 Kb) onto it to see if the data page in settings is wrong. Is it possible that when Android Studio loads a new debug instance of an app onto my phone it doesn't delete the old one? Or is it a glitch with 4.3 on my N4? Help!
the system needs there to be 500mb or so free at all times. this space is reserved for caches and such, so your device can function properly. at your point, i bet you arent even connecting to googles servers(gray bars instead of blue). uninstall some apps or clear some storage space, your choice.
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the system needs there to be 500mb or so free at all times. this space is reservered for caches and such, so your device can function properly. at your point, i bet you arent even connecting to googles servers(gray bars instead of blue). uninstall some apps or clear some storage space, your choice.
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Nope, everything is fine, and it has operated on less before.
Aidoboy said:
Nope, everything is fine, and it has operated on less before.
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cool if you believe so, enjoy your insufficient storage space then.
simms22 said:
cool if you believe so, enjoy your insufficient storage space then.
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It wroks now, do you have any idea what the directory media/Android/obb is? It has really big files, labeled as apps I don't have.
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Nope, everything is fine, and it has operated on less before.
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Your manners are terrible. Look at the number of "Thanks" Simms has. He isn't making stuff up.
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It wroks now, do you have any idea what the directory media/Android/obb is? It has really big files, labeled as apps I don't have.
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i believe that it holds some paid apps, or apps with a certain security(i could be wrong here. it used to hold apps that were installed in the sd instead of system, but we dont have to worry about that now).
I am a beginner developer and I am sure I have a memory leak in my android application. When I open my app for the first time and check the heap size using DDMS tool from Eclipse it shows 4.5 MB. With every new opening of my app (close and reopen it) the heap size is increasing until it reaches 5.8 MB and then it settles at this size going up or down just a little bit. I also see that the amount of allocated objects increases from 44k to 60k. That is crazy I guess. But why it stops increasing at that particular point of memory (5.8 MB) and amount of objects (60k)? Furthermore, for some reason Android Application Manager's "Cached background processes" section shows that my app memory consuption increases from 10 MB to 24 MB and settles there. Why do these numbers differs from what DDMS shows? Anyway, these two tools show the same behaviour: that is with every opening my app's memory is increasing. I have tried setting all my instance variables to null in onDestroy() methods of my every activity or fragment but it didn't help. What else can I do?
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I am a beginner developer and I am sure I have a memory leak in my android application. When I open my app for the first time and check the heap size using DDMS tool from Eclipse it shows 4.5 MB. With every new opening of my app (close and reopen it) the heap size is increasing until it reaches 5.8 MB and then it settles at this size going up or down just a little bit. I also see that the amount of allocated objects increases from 44k to 60k. That is crazy I guess. But why it stops increasing at that particular point of memory (5.8 MB) and amount of objects (60k)? Furthermore, for some reason Android Application Manager's "Cached background processes" section shows that my app memory consuption increases from 10 MB to 24 MB and settles there. Why do these numbers differs from what DDMS shows? Anyway, these two tools show the same behaviour: that is with every opening my app's memory is increasing. I have tried setting all my instance variables to null in onDestroy() methods of my every activity or fragment but it didn't help. What else can I do?
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Are you really sure you have such a leak? Usually it happens on rotation or so and it keeps on increasing, using far more memory than your 5.8 megs. If you quit your app with the home button (instead of back) Android still keeps a lot of its data in memory so it is faster to be reopened. It still depends on what your app is doing, so releasing any unneeded receivers or caches is still a good thing to do, but in your case an increase of just 1.3MB is not significant enough to really worry about it. I don't know what the Android Application Manager is showing since I haven't used it yet.
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Are you really sure you have such a leak? Usually it happens on rotation or so and it keeps on increasing, using far more memory than your 5.8 megs. If you quit your app with the home button (instead of back) Android still keeps a lot of its data in memory so it is faster to be reopened. It still depends on what your app is doing, so releasing any unneeded receivers or caches is still a good thing to do, but in your case an increase of just 1.3MB is not significant enough to really worry about it. I don't know what the Android Application Manager is showing since I haven't used it yet.
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Well, I wouldn't worry if that 5.8 MB had gone down after I quit my app pressing back button, but it hadn't, so it keeps me thinking I have a memory leak. And yes, it keeps on increasing on rotation too, because the activity is recreated. It doesn't increase only when I close and open my app using home button because activity isn't recreated then. By the way, I use FragmentPagerAdapter for ViewPager and CursorAdapter for ListView. Maybe one of these could be the cause. Thank you.
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